Just wondering if there's a way of getting the Nandriodbackup programme (or something as good as this) working without having root (which most of us can't achieve now)?
For me personally i dont need root because i dont want to try rom's anymore, i just want the great backupfeature nandroid has.
Lacuna666 said:
Just wondering if there's a way of getting the Nandriodbackup programme (or something as good as this) working without having root (which most of us can't achieve now)?
For me personally i dont need root because i dont want to try rom's anymore, i just want the great backupfeature nandroid has.
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IMPOSSIBLE without being root,
because it has to save / restore /system/app ....
U can, use gingerbreak to temp root, and manually make a copy, don't know exactly what is needed. Restoring is a nogo yet since it requires S-off.
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Hi all,
I want to make a rooted rom from my HK version of Magic, an much original as possible, just need root. May I ask for your help to gather the relavant information? Like,
1. How to dump the whole system files (but not as nandroid)?
2. How to make it rooted (just put in the hacked su)?
3. Anything else (I know it may have a lot, please point me out)....
Great THX....
Hi...nobody interest? Thx...
Hi!
I'm new, but I saw this and now I know how to sign an update.zip. The second thing I know is, that the boot.img is important to be root on the shell (adb shell). Now you can take a rom from there (Firmware SFR Original) as your base and the boot.img from another rom to be root...
Could someone correct me if I'm wrong?
edit: Btw I'm sorry for my english, I'm german...
Same as here....I just want to root the machine only....(I want to keep current rom)
how can i do??
antony34 said:
Same as here....I just want to root the machine only....(I want to keep current rom)
how can i do??
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+1 for sure. need to keep current rom but want root access.
Rooting? A good place to start
pdagenius said:
Rooting? A good place to start
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does that leave the rom on your phone that was on previously? I want to be able to run overclock widget, theme, etc.....
Coming from a G1 where rooting was so easy this is different to me. My understanding when reading it it loads a different rom/image on your phone...
what we are asking is is it possible to somehow dump the current rom off your phone (eg. 3 Australia), root it and flash it back to your phone so you now have root access....
thx
We have now released our tool that will flash koush's recovery to your device without a engineering hboot etc. All you need is root, please see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706270
And I'm sure this works with your rooting method right?
yep... sure does.
Shadowmite said:
We have now released our tool that will flash koush's recovery to your device without a engineering hboot etc. All you need is root, please see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706270
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will the source code be released for this method?
it is great to have multiple methods! thanks!!!
No, this method we hope will remain underwraps for many more htc devices. But rest assured we will happily explore and implement it on as many devices as we can.
joeykrim said:
will the source code be released for this method?
it is great to have multiple methods! thanks!!!
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No plans at this time, sorry. We've planned on blogging about the first root method we found for some time (and still use for older phones), just never got around to it.
mmastrac (unrevoked)
is this *full* nand unlock. The part 2 of the Evo Rooting process
Will this erase everything I have on my phone? Are there instructions anywhere for how to do this?
RickBaller said:
Will this erase everything I have on my phone? Are there instructions anywhere for how to do this?
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Get the original Unrevoked and then get titanium backup, then backup. Then do this unrevoked recovery flash.
worked flawlessly on my mac first time. ran nandroid. installed custom rom. love it.
ive noticed a custom rom or two requires full nand unlock.. even after boot. would this method allow for use of that kind of rom.. or would we need to do the original full root method(part 1 + 2)? ex...forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700448
if original root mthod is indeed required for customs roms such as the above mentioned.. could we just pick up at original root method part two? or would we have to still start form the beginning? i personally dont care about being able to have full R/W access while in android.. but if im going to miss out on some roms i might consider doing the "full root" method.
id prefer not to tho.. as i LOVE everything unrevoked is doing. thanks for all the hard work.
worked like a charm
stock evo + unrevoked root + unrevoked recovery + custom rom of your choice .... hell yeah doesn't get any easier
Works amazing! Great work guys!
does this give you FULL root or just the ability to load custom roms?
knives of ice said:
does this give you FULL root or just the ability to load custom roms?
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appears just the ability to load custom ROMs. don't think this gives write access to /system.
in order to manipulate files for /system, requires their root method with their special shadow directory and mount bind command method.
If its not full root then what's the point? It seems to me that it just makes things more confusing because users think they are rooted when in fact they are not..
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If its not full root then what's the point? It seems to me that it just makes things more confusing because users think they are rooted when in fact they are not..
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depends how you define full root.
the user has full root (superuser access) to the whole phone, but does not have write access to /system due to NAND protection.
the release in this thread, they've used some kind of exploit/method to bypass NAND protection temporarily to allow write access to the /recovery partition.
Funny though, about three weeks ago, i used the unrevoked to kick off rooting the wifes phone while i was driving down the road, I used it to get what i needed to flash to finish up with toasts method. LOL...
I'm running the Fresh v0.3 which says you need nand unlocked.
I'm new to Android but if I can flash these custom roms I think that's good enough
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this is pretty cool, gonna have to look into this!
i didnt think the two toast root steps were hard to begin with. Especially for all the benefits. But good job unrevoked team for the contribution, for those that cannot or choose not to r00t the other way. Choices are what this place is all about
I'm getting ready to root my phone, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is what is the best way to make an image of my stock rom on the AT&T Nexus S before using a tool that's going to delete all my data?
I would really like to make a full system image so that if anything goes wrong, I can flash it back to where it is before the root takes place. Is this possible? Is there a guide out there that I just haven't seen?
Thanks
VillainousVivi said:
I'm getting ready to root my phone, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is what is the best way to make an image of my stock rom on the AT&T Nexus S before using a tool that's going to delete all my data?
I would really like to make a full system image so that if anything goes wrong, I can flash it back to where it is before the root takes place. Is this possible? Is there a guide out there that I just haven't seen?
Thanks
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i hate saying this, but its true. this should go into the Q&A section, not into development. anyways, i think that you need root for that. but if there is a way, i think that it would be through adb.
Not a problem, if a mod can move it, that'd be great. I thought that a backup before making modifications would fall under the realm of development. After all, without a good backup, I wouldn't want to make too many changes
VillainousVivi said:
Not a problem, if a mod can move it, that'd be great. I thought that a backup before making modifications would fall under the realm of development. After all, without a good backup, I wouldn't want to make too many changes
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what you want is to perform a nandroid backup, and you can do that through a custom recovery. you either need to unlock your bootloader for that(which wipes your phone and sd storage) or you can search how to root without unlocking the bootloader, root it, and use rom manager to flash a recovery/perform a nandroid backup without wiping but getting root.
Just use my back up pro to back up whatever that app will allow. Then copy over all your SDCard contents to your computer....Google takes care of contacts and apps....
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I am new to android world. just got HTC TMOUS sensation. i read about root your phone and S-Off etc. looks intimidating to a newbie like me. what I want to do is just be able to permanently remove crapware and just have clear device. i was able to do it temp-root method ,and used Titanium backup to uninstall crap. but if by any chance phone reboots , then i have to do it all over. So my question is
1) how can i achieve permanent removal of extra software (bloatware, crapware) without flashing any ROM? If that not possbile , then
2) is there any script or automated option for Titanium backup to unistall all the crap in one go, instead of doing it one by one?
Thanks in advance.
abachhan75 said:
I am new to android world. just got HTC TMOUS sensation. i read about root your phone and S-Off etc. looks intimidating to a newbie like me. what I want to do is just be able to permanently remove crapware and just have clear device. i was able to do it temp-root method ,and used Titanium backup to uninstall crap. but if by any chance phone reboots , then i have to do it all over. So my question is
1) how can i achieve permanent removal of extra software (bloatware, crapware) without flashing any ROM? If that not possbile , then
2) is there any script or automated option for Titanium backup to unistall all the crap in one go, instead of doing it one by one?
Thanks in advance.
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start here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200403
do some reading youll feel more comfortable with things
Go to this thread and get S-Off. Its very simple if you follow it step by step and there is plenty of people out there willing to help. (hell send me a PM if you need help)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then your going to want to update your radio using this thread, another easy one just put latest file on sd card. shut off phone and boot using power and down volume. itll automatically ask you to flash it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178143
Then get on the latest and greatest rom. youll have speed, stability, and better battery life. Download InsertCoin 2.3.4
thanks 4 quick reply, gathering some courage. what is the best way to backup all my app setting? (titanium backup ?) i have temp-rooted the device.
If you don't want to flash any ROMs you can just get S-OFF using Revolutionary, acquire root (follow the guide), and then use Titanium Backup to fully uninstall the crap you don't want. That will be permanent.
I would go ahead and get S-OFF and ditch Temp-Root as that is pretty obsolete at this point. It's easy if you read beforehand, follow the guide, and ask for help if needed.
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thanks 4 quick reply, gathering some courage. what is the best way to backup all my app setting? (titanium backup ?) i have temp-rooted the device.
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titanium is the way to go to backup stuff if your temp-rooted. Id reccommend just batch backup of USER apps not system ones because the custom roms youll be installing will have a lot of updates to system apps.
Good luck man any questions shoot me a pm or raden^ he knows his **** and is helpful as hell too
thanks friends, i will try over the weekend. now it is time to go ...
Id seriously reconsider S-OFF if you DONT want ROMs! It aint easy to get S-ON again in the event a button falls off your phone or some other random warranty related incident occurs. If you send back an S-OFF phone to Tmobile or HTC, they MIGHT accuse you of voiding your warranty.
If you just want to stop bloatware, go the temp root method and FREEZE (Not delete) the thing you dont want. Then, you can reboot and no longer be rooted and still be S-ON.
I say to FREEZE and not DELETE because Tmobile or HTC may become suspicious as to where their bloatware went when you send them your phone. If you simply froze it, you can temp root, then UNFREEZE what you did and then reboot to remove the traces of an obvious root.
Alot of people here are irresponsibly pushing S-OFF on people when they REALLY need to find out if that is what they TRULY need!
I dont want to flash ANYONE's ROMs, but plan to get CM7 a shot.
Matt
mrg02d said:
I say to FREEZE and not DELETE because Tmobile or HTC may become suspicious as to where their bloatware went when you send them your phone. If you simply froze it, you can temp root, then UNFREEZE what you did and then reboot to remove the traces of an obvious root.
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I would agree with this. Don't delete anything without a backup or use the Freeze method with Titanium Backup. That way if something goes wrong, you're not up a creek!
mrg02d said:
Alot of people here are irresponsibly pushing S-OFF on people when they REALLY need to find out if that is what they TRULY need!
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Agree'd again. Don't jump into S-OFF if you aren't comfortable with it or don't plan on flashing custom ROMs. If it's just bloatware you wish to remove, use Titanium.
Good luck!
now i am bit more confused as they say at wall street, it is a risk-reward balance you have to consider.
i have installed launcher EX, i like it so far, can i uninstall sense altogether using titanium backup app?
Hello everyone - Please apologize if this is not the right place to ask this and feel free to move this thread where it belongs. So I have finally decided to root my HTC Inspire (Desire) - primarily to get rid of the bloatware and improve the battery life. I had a question before I do it - do I need to make any kind of backup before I proceed? Also, how easy/hard is it to go back to stock after you root? When you get an official software update, you need to be in the stock mode before you can get that update, correct?
I am planning to use the titanium backup pro after I root to freeze the bloatware - is there a better option available to do that or would you guys recommend titanium? Thanks much!
After you root, you won't want to have any "official" updates. We're not getting official ICS anyway. The ace hack kit does include a method to return to stock if you really needed to, say for warranty purposes. Rooting won't erase anything on your phone, but make sure all your contacts and everything are synced before you flash a new ROM. You need to wipe everything before that.
Titanium backup is the way to go for freezing/removing bloatware. Just be careful what you remove. I suggest freezing something before removing it to make sure the it doesn't make the phone act wierd. I made the mistake of removing a system app that I thought I had no need for, and it made my sync stick. Always had to manually cancel it or it would run forever. I ended up having to reflash to fix it.
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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There will be no more updates from AT&T or HTC for the Inspire. Your only choice for updates will be to use a custom rom. They are much better than anything "official".
A back up is recommended before you start making changes once you have root. It is easier to restore a nandroid than to flash a RUU file.
Apps that have been frozen do not use CPU or ram but are still using storage.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25822169
I had posted something for the user in this thread maybe the info I made could help you out or give you the idea
My Inspire
to ease you mind, I just rooted my Inspire using aace.. its totally easy basically plug and play, just read the directions and make sure you followed the prereq' directions.. Its not hard at all and very worth it, can belive i didnt do it sooner, just flased CM7 today and it AWESOME!!!! do and dont look back!!