Is it just because of the 4G? I owned the OG Droid and Droid X before this. Both of them would get a lock within 5 seconds. The TB takes at least a 45-60+ seconds to lock on, and even then it's not always very accurate. I tried the newer radio but it didn't help. I started getting random reboots so I'm now back to the stock radio.
I love my TB but the ****ty GPS is really disappointing.
Noticed some people have issues with BAMF ROM gps signal...as I tended to have issues with stock. Try a different ROM as some have different tweaks and settings.(Would suggest Liquid Thundersense) Kernel's and Radio's also affect the GPS which could also be the issue.
Id do a search in the development threads. I remember I few discussions on how to improve that. One that works for me is to disable the Google gps services in settings, and only use the Verizon and the other gps option (i forget which one it was )
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I had horrible GPS issues until I did the GPS Status fix - now it is crazy fast.
boingboingbilly said:
I had horrible GPS issues until I did the GPS Status fix - now it is crazy fast.
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Thanks for sharing the GPS fix. I appreciate it.
dbisch said:
Is it just because of the 4G? I owned the OG Droid and Droid X before this. Both of them would get a lock within 5 seconds. The TB takes at least a 45-60+ seconds to lock on, and even then it's not always very accurate. I tried the newer radio but it didn't help. I started getting random reboots so I'm now back to the stock radio.
I love my TB but the ****ty GPS is really disappointing.
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I sympathize. My BlackBerry would lock very quickly, whereas, without the GPS Status fix, my ThunderBolt took ~60 seconds. Not anywhere near as bad as cold-starting a GPS that doesn't have location-assistance.
In the GPS.conf file, chandelier north-america to us
There is a fix that involves downloading the GPS Status app from the market, let it receive a full lock, then reload your map application and it should lock quicker. I have no idea why this works but it worked wonders for my phone. And if its a placebo effect, I dont care because I got some fast locking GPS now
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There is a fix that involves downloading the GPS Status app from the market, let it receive a full lock, then reload your map application and it should lock quicker. I have no idea why this works but it worked wonders for my phone. And if its a placebo effect, I dont care because I got some fast locking GPS now
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Nope, Don't work for me. I'm on stock not rooted. I can't seem to actually get a fix period sometimes.
The GPS Status app has done wonders for the GPS lock. Before it took about a minute to lock on, now, about 5 seconds and I get an accurate lock.
The fix I mentioned deff seems to be kinda hit and miss then but I have heard it help a few people in the thread that mentioned it. There are other fixes you can find by searching throughout the forums, there are some in the General section as well as the Development forum. Just keep searching until you find a method that works for you.
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Nope, Don't work for me. I'm on stock not rooted. I can't seem to actually get a fix period sometimes.
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It can take 5 minutes for it to finally lock on weith the app, you know when it does when it shows how accurate in feet it is. Restart maps and the lock is very quick from then on.
Yeah - but how long does it take the GPS Status app to get a lock? It seems like that app takes just as long as the Google Navigator to get a lock so what's the advantage? Right now, I'm going on 5 minutes and still can't get a lock on my location.
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Yeah - but how long does it take the GPS Status app to get a lock? It seems like that app takes just as long as the Google Navigator to get a lock so what's the advantage? Right now, I'm going on 5 minutes and still can't get a lock on my location.
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Kind of misrepresented in a way...the app helps get a quicker gps lock by downloading data assistance much like a-gps. You might need to clear your gps cache data from that applications settings then let it try to lock on....I also noticed the fastest lock is with all 3 gps options selected.
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Kind of misrepresented in a way...the app helps get a quicker gps lock by downloading data assistance much like a-gps. You might need to clear your gps cache data from that applications settings then let it try to lock on....I also noticed the fastest lock is with all 3 gps options selected.
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Verizon lbs does nothing unless you use vz nav.
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What I do is:
- Download and Install GPS Status App
- Open the App and go to menue > Toos > Manage A-GPS State > Reset
- Go to Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. Find Maps and Clear Data.
Then when I reopen Maps I get a very fast lock.
It's hard to say HTC rushed it out after all those delays, but HTC rushed it out. The thing lags more than it should, the battery isn't all that, the GPS sucks, and no GB. I regret my purchase every time I see that LTE pricing hasn't gone up!!! I bought this thing first day because of that unfounded rumour... Now the next LTE phone is in the B&M stores and the pricing is still unchanged.
I love using workarounds on a stock device... I cant even get a good version of CM7 on this thing!!!!! It's sad when "the phone after that" isn't even as good as my 2 previous phones. (vPhone 4, D1) I actually reactivated the vPhone and use it exclusively since its battery can last longer than 6 hrs of moderate usage...
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It's hard to say HTC rushed it out after all those delays, but HTC rushed it out. The thing lags more than it should, the battery isn't all that, the GPS sucks, and no GB. I regret my purchase every time I see that LTE pricing hasn't gone up!!! I bought this thing first day because of that unfounded rumour... Now the next LTE phone is in the B&M stores and the pricing is still unchanged.
I love using workarounds on a stock device... I cant even get a good version of CM7 on this thing!!!!! It's sad when "the phone after that" isn't even as good as my 2 previous phones. (vPhone 4, D1) I actually reactivated the vPhone and use it exclusively since its battery can last longer than 6 hrs of moderate usage...
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We regret your purchase as well.
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We regret your purchase as well.
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What I do is:
- Download and Install GPS Status App
- Open the App and go to menue > Toos > Manage A-GPS State > Reset
- Go to Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. Find Maps and Clear Data.
Then when I reopen Maps I get a very fast lock.
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You don't have to do that every time you use GPS though, right?
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I know this has been discussed some, but i can't seem to find a solution. This is a great phone, but the gps really makes me mad.
My OG Droid and inc would get a position lock pretty fast. about 15 seconds. the thunderbolt on the other hand sucks... Never have i even seen before the shrinking (or sometimes not) circle around your position arrow in google maps.
This is a big deal to me because i use the gps as the main navi in my truck, i assume lots of others do too. I also use it for marking fishing spots so pinpoint accuracy is a must.
I know and for those who don't, you can download GPS status and see the fix its getting and also reset or update your GPS. This kind of works for a while, but still doesn't get the most accurate fix (but ok for driving) and is a PITA. Also takes a minute.
I have a feeling this is software/radio related, and hopefully can be fixed. But just a hunch as i know nothing about the matter.
Anyone have any other ideas??
I should add i just got 12/12 in gps status. not too bad. and maybe the circle around the position arrow was MAYBE just added in a new version of maps. but still it takes multiple trys when i hit navigate to find my position.
GPS is awful on both my and my wife's Thunderbolts too. Can't get a lock standing outside even after 5 minutes; completely unusable. And, we shouldn't have to download another (non-official) app just to get GPS to work.
Glad it's not just me. My GPS takes forever to lock (has taken up to 10min before).
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Glad it's not just me. My GPS takes forever to lock (has taken up to 10min before).
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my pgs sucks as well. I didn't use it much before rooting and flashing roms, so I can't really compare pre and post ROM flashing. Either way, it sucks, can't lock on my location, it get "waiting on location" then "location unavailbale at this time". However, it seems to work when I on pgs navigation after waiting for a while. Hopefully we can get a fix for this soon.
i didnt try GPS much before root either. Don't think that would make a difference. I was on the stock rom just until yesterday and was having the same problems with it.
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I'm having the same issues. I love my phone but this is very aggravating. I would like to know if this is just isolated to a few of us( ie our particular phones are defective) or is the a phone wide issue.
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GPS issues..
I've been having the same issues with GPS. I posted about this in another thread but i'll post again.
I get three different locations from three different apps using GPS. Google maps is off by a few blocks, but at least it shows me in downtown houston (my actual location). My time widget pulls the time based on location, and currently, its somewhere near a lake in Russia right above mongolia. Foursquare thinks i'm on the coast of Lithuania and gives me locations in that area to check into.
I called VZ tech help and breezed through to the L2 support. The lady put me on hold to grab a thunderbolt phone to help me troubleshoot. When she came back on the line, she said her google maps was showing her location as blocks away from where she really too!!
Long story short - she gave me a call back later that day and said HTC is aware of the problem and is currently working on a fix for the issue , but gave no timeframe for when it would be fixed
My thunderbolt is fine. Just did a maps test and it found me in about 10s. I have two thunderbolts and the other one took about 1 minute to lock. Both tests were done from inside my house.
having the same problem with my gps...im going head to a verizon store today!
magnafides said:
GPS is awful on both my and my wife's Thunderbolts too. Can't get a lock standing outside even after 5 minutes; completely unusable. And, we shouldn't have to download another (non-official) app just to get GPS to work.
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"non official"
you shouldn't be on this forum, if you don't like "non official" stuff, btw if you use GPS status you can clear the cache, and download the assistance data. maybe that'll help you guys
Mine gets a lock indoors, away from all windows, under 2 minutes. Not the most accurate, 60ft, 6 satellites. But hey I'm in the frikkin house. Outdoors I get a lock instantly. 12+ satellites.
Gps status helps, but doesn't fix it. So chill dude.
But I just downloaded das bamf 1.3.1 and now its working like normal! In the change log it says edited some gps settings in the build prop!
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Damn my gps doesn't work at all...
Das bamf 1.3.1
Varelse said:
Damn my gps doesn't work at all...
Das bamf 1.3.1
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Sucks. I assume you tried updating thru gps status? Maybe it will work after awhile or a reboot.
Anyways since mine works good now I am at ease cause I know its not HW. I'm sure there will be a patch one of these days.
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I am using Das Bamf 1.3.1 and have no gps problems
Running Das BAMF 1.3.2. No problems at all with GPS, indoors, outdoors, or in car -- pre- and- post-root.
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Sucks. I assume you tried updating thru gps status?
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Dumb question, but where do I find this option?
So it's just not me, mine takes minutes to lock on, after that it's no problem, but that initial lock is a PITA, 3-5 min...
I've also noticed subpar gps performance compared to my incredible from the first day I got the phone.
The Gps status app seems to have helped and the time to get a lock has improved even more with bamf 1.3.2. Even still it doesn't seem to get a lock as quick as I was used to with my incredible. Takes anywhere from 30s to 2min, but on the lower end of that.
Would still like to see this addressed by HTC/vzw. I'm sure there's other people out there having this issue and I know they can do better.
Howdy all?
I don't know WHAT I was thinking but on impulse bought the LG Revolution last night. It's a decent and I do want to emphasize just decent, however it has an AMAZING GPS capability.
Well I am going to right my wrong and get the Charge, hence how is the GPS on it in comparison? I need a device that locks fast and can get below 20 meters (long story with crap phone at AT&T)!
Any guidance/perspective would be appreciated.
Angieutc
gps is great. Locks quickly. Much better than the fasciante was. I wouldnt regret buying the revo...its a great phone too.
Doesn't the Revo have Bing by default for search engine? I thought about getting the Revo but I hate Bing.
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Doesn't the Revo have Bing by default for search engine? I thought about getting the Revo but I hate Bing.
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Exactly why I am taking it back. I did not know how deeply intergrated bing was into the phone. I thought it was just to higlight the search engine.
Plus there is not excitement about the phone. Verizon reps weren't excited to talk about it and there is not support on XDA.
On thing -- GPS and call quality were some of the best i have had on a phone.
I made a mistake and thankful I can fix it within my 14 day period.
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Doesn't the Revo have Bing by default for search engine? I thought about getting the Revo but I hate Bing.
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Easily removed.
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Easily removed.
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True. However, I would feel better with a Samsung or HTC model. Something is nagging in my mind that I would regret the LG purchase down the line. Just a feeling.
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On thing -- GPS and call quality were some of the best i have had on a phone.
I made a mistake and thankful I can fix it within my 14 day period.
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I think you will maybe regret making the change. There WILL be roms, with debloat. And make the phone what it should be.
GPS on the Charge is okay. Doesn't lock nearly as fast as other Moto devices that I have had.
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Gps rocks under 5 meter accuracy and fast lock times. Way better than the captivate I used to own
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im very unimpressed by ALL of its wireless network capabilities, the gps can take minutes to lock on its fairly accurate but sometimes i'll go threw 2 songs and pass 4 exits before it locks and i find out im going the wrong way. on top of that i had the HTC TB and it had great 4G signal all around my area but my charge is maybe 1/2 to 3/4 as strong in the same places, also the bluetooth will NOT stay connected to anything which is a HUGE problem at least for me because i have a tablet and the entire reason i bought the charge was for th 4g hotspot to share with my transformer but as of right now that is nothing more than a pipe dream. I'm hoping that some of these issues will be ironed out because i can't take this phone back now and i have to wait for something newer to come out.
sadly i'm slightly disappointed in this phone so far but i do understand that in time problems will be addressed.
as far as another phone to get its hard to suggest ANY of verizons 4G phones as they all kinda suck....
So far, the GPS on my Charge has been awful. I love the phone to death, but every time I try to use the GPS, it just laaaags. Doesn't matter what program I'm using to access the GPS.
Thankfully, there are very few reasons I need GPS and most of those reasons, I really don't need GPS, I just need a location, which I can get with cell tower triangulation or whatever.
...Ok, I just opened my phone, flipped on GPS, opened Google maps and it is working perfectly. Eh... so I guess I'll amend "awful" to "spotty with a chance of awesome."
The GPS in my Charge works. It is not nearly as fast as my Droid X was, and it struggles to get a lock indoors, but I only rely on it for 1 app and can make do.
My DX would have a lock within 2 seconds max, and the Charge will take up to 10 seconds for an initial lock. That being said, I have not experienced any latency/accuracy issues once locked on to 5+ satellites.
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GPS has been terrible for me. I have had to use additional testing apps to get it to lock at all on occasion and it has been slow in those instance. Prior to EE4 it was excellent, but since it has been horrible.
My GPS completely blows, just like the Fascinate.
For those with the GPS issues, download GPS Test by Chartcross and fire that up one time. It should get a signal within 15 seconds. After opening that one time, my other GPS apps lock a signal very quickly.
It sounds strange but that solved my GPS issues...
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For those with the GPS issues, download GPS Test by Chartcross and fire that up one time. It should get a signal within 15 seconds. After opening that one time, my other GPS apps lock a signal very quickly.
It sounds strange but that solved my GPS issues...
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I have taken to using that app as well. For me it means the difference between not being able to lock and being able to lock in a minute or three. Now, I have taken to modifying my gps.conf .. so we'll see how that goes.
My wife's takes literally over five minutes to lock the first use each day or so, but sped up with a the testing app. It seems like Samsung has issues with pull GPS data off the net/cell towers to speed the initial connection. Just a theory.
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My GPS has also been very awful since ive gotten my charge last week. It takes forever to lock and mostly it doesn't even lock accurately on my location kinda disappointing coming from a BB that locks on almost instantly on my exact location.
I remember it working real well but then yesterday I went to use Navigation and got nothing. Since then I've tried to clear the DV cache, clear the GPS data, reinstall Maps. Nothing has worked. Through the testing apps, I can see it is getting some gps signal but they are mostly weak and it never locks on to anything. I am thinking about wiping my phone to see if maybe that will do the trick. Might be a good time to start getting into Roms.
I've only used mine twice, but it seems to consistently position me about .25 to .5mi away to the south from my actual location. (Both times I was using it indoors.)
I've searched the threads for are Verizon variant of the SGSIII. If this has been discussed , mod please remove.
I'm not a noob by any means. My GPS is driving me up a freaking wall. I've tried from on a pure stock ROM, yes out the box and both rooted .img's. Plus all available ROM'S .
Here is where my adventure begins. It takes forever if at all , to get a lock. If I do get a lock it will stick but that is about 1 out of ten times. I've tried to modify the GPS.conf , with known general tweaks and NTP servers to pull from with no luck, also a few general build.prop tweaks. Then I turned to the market and we all no how that goes , thousands of apps claiming to give you the world with a click of a button. Nada , nothing. I've done full restores, formatted system, efs etc ect, a clean start. Still no luck. Now I thought at one point that maby my GPS is fubared, I highly doubt this. I can see all satellites in my region and it connects to about one or two at the most. When I just look at my maps on my location it is close , it will show me about 100 ft away from the road I'm on or the next road over, or show me on the road but riding along side it. If I'm in navigation it just says follow route , searching for GPS. So I no its close.
This is frustrating cause I'm a self employed contractor and I depend on my phone for everything. So if anyone can confirm some of the problems I've been having or any links or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
(EDIT) After some reaserch and tinkering with the gps.conf I have made my GPS 50% better. See page 2.
DirtyDroidX
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I've had the same problem. My GPS takes forever to lock on (if I try to start it up while navigating, it usually doesn't lock at all). And when it does lock on, the accuracy is terrible.
I haven't tried any of the tweaks, apps, or different ROMs or anything, but I shouldn't be really have to. GPS worked great on my now 2.5 year old HTC Incredible, and works fine on the Rezound I play with a lot. This was one of the things I was worried about when I bought this phone... HTC phones are known for having the best radios around... and Samsung radios are known to be ****. Well, this has only reinforced that for me.
For a comparison to the Rezound, see the attached screenshots taken at pretty much the same time, in pretty much the same spot. In fairness, I was moving (although coming to a stop) when the SGSIII one was taken, but the results that came out were actually one of the better ones. Around the time I took the screenshots, I was getting measurements similar to this as well as much worse than this, while both moving and stopped. Hell, you can even see that the 3G signal is weaker on the SGSIII.
I've seen these same issues discussed in a number of forums on here, and I recognize that not everyone has this problem. Most people's GPS locks on instantly and the accuracy is great. But there are still a lot of people who do have this problem, so it's definitely not just a couple isolated cases. I realize that I can take it in for a warranty replacement, but then I get a refurbished phone back, and those usually come with even more problems... which is the thing that pisses me off about the Verizon warranty program... I buy a brand new phone... it doesn't work... I get a refurbished phone in it's place. Samsung needs to just stop making shoddy hardware and it won't be a problem.
Don't get me wrong, I'd still take this phone over the Rezound any day. It's sexier, has a way better processor, camera, and battery life, and has a bigger screen. I just miss Sense and having radios that actually work well
For whatever reason, the old GPS issue thread disappeared. Initially I had no problems on stock, but when I flashed Invisiblek's JB 8-10 build, I wasn't able to lock on.
What I did was download FasterFix from the PlayStore. With GPS off, I launched it, set the region to my region, closed, and then turned on GPS, waited a minute and launched navigation again. See if that works for you. I think FasterFix calibrates your region or something if it's trying to find you somewhere in the world and is taking a while.
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For whatever reason, the old GPS issue thread disappeared. Initially I had no problems on stock, but when I flashed Invisiblek's JB 8-10 build, I wasn't able to lock on.
What I did was download FasterFix from the PlayStore. With GPS off, I launched it, set the region to my region, closed, and then turned on GPS, waited a minute and launched navigation again. See if that works for you. I think FasterFix calibrates your region or something if it's trying to find you somewhere in the world and is taking a while.
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FasterFix seems like it might fix the lock-on time but not the accuracy, which is the (much) bigger problem.
I hope I don't. S2 had a POS GPS at first that took forever to fix.
Yea I can get a lock faster with a few play store apps. The thing is like said before, the accuracy is ****ty. Plus the navigation won't function cause of this. I hope someone with in depth knowledge can see what the problem is. I have not given up hope yet lol. I have a few things I want to test out and then I might throw my hands in the air. I need to get ahold of nitroglycerin33 on talk and ask him a few questions.
Jmo. I flashed the radio before Verizon got there ignorant hands on it. I forget what the version name is . I live on a fringe area and I was dropping calls left and right ,bad 4G conection. Now I would say its 60% better.
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You should exchange the phone if you can. Mine was terrible before and now its perfect on the new phone.
ChrisNee1988 said:
You should exchange the phone if you can..
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I agree, GPS not working in these phones seems to be a hardware problem.
My G3 GPS works perfectly (better than my old Rezound in side by side comparisons, it locks almost instantly even inside where I work), but my boss had one that didn't work for ****.
VZ replaced his & now it works great.
My wife's S3 does something entirely different. GPS locks on fine and fast, but it says she's in Clintwood VA, about 500 miles off. First noticed it in the weather widget, but if she opens maps it starts in Clintwood, but locks on correctly in just a few seconds. Weather can be changed manually, but goes back to Clintwood after a while.
Never been to Clintwood, may need to see if there's anything worth seeing there.
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My wife's S3 does something entirely different. GPS locks on fine and fast, but it says she's in Clintwood VA, about 500 miles off. First noticed it in the weather widget, but if she opens maps it starts in Clintwood, but locks on correctly in just a few seconds. Weather can be changed manually, but goes back to Clintwood after a while.
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That is just a bug in the [email protected] stock weather app, mine does the same thing. It always puts me in NYC which is a 6 1/2 hour drive away.
I use weather & toggle widgets flip clock/weather instead in Nova Launcher & that weather app always locates me perfectly no matter where I am.
Just got it and this is one of the best GPS's I have seen yet. Better than my S2 and my Razr.
My last GS3 had a similar issue too on top of the lock taking forever and it being a bit off. At one point it thought I was in Florida but I really live near DC. My friend noticed it when I was chatting with the FB app and it included Geotags and was wondering what I was doing in Florida.
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My wife's S3 does something entirely different. GPS locks on fine and fast, but it says she's in Clintwood VA, about 500 miles off. First noticed it in the weather widget, but if she opens maps it starts in Clintwood, but locks on correctly in just a few seconds. Weather can be changed manually, but goes back to Clintwood after a while.
Never been to Clintwood, may need to see if there's anything worth seeing there.
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I'm leaning toward a hardware issue myself cause I'm adjusting the NTP servers as we speak. I've used about 6 different ones . No change. I'm going to try some prop tweaks now.
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I'm leaning toward a hardware issue myself cause I'm adjusting the NTP servers as we speak. I've used about 6 different ones . No change. I'm going to try some prop tweaks now.
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I could be misinterpreting what you are trying to do, but why would the NTP servers have anything to do with your GPS problem? NTP simply delivers UTC time....
GPS works prefer for me. Takes about ten seconds at most to lock
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Beemer533 said:
I could be misinterpreting what you are trying to do, but why would the NTP servers have anything to do with your GPS problem? NTP simply delivers UTC time....
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I'm not sure what the problem is that's why I'm trying to distinguish between hardware or software. Just exploring all options. Can't hurt.
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OK might be on to something
If anyone wants to try it out I will post it here in a little bit. From tweaking the GPS.conf file I got this>>>
When I started the day I got not one lock on a satt !
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I'm not sure what the problem is that's why I'm trying to distinguish between hardware or software. Just exploring all options. Can't hurt.
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No, it certainly can't! I was just wondering, as NTP just delivers time, and has no positional information...
Agreed the lock does take forever UNLESS you turn on Google Location Services (which I usually have off), and it is accurate as all hell even indoors. I wonder if turning that on with Standalone GPS will solve your issues.
Edit: GPS lock was great with Maps indoors, but switching to Navigation it never locked onto GPS even though it had my location perfectly!
OK if you want to prove my concept feel free to . Let me no if it works for you. Go out side or be in a car while locking on!
1) Download new gps.conf file>>>
http://db.tt/5xvFneRt
2) Replace it in /ect . Rename the original one from .conf to .bak. using a file explorer with R/W enabled , so yes you have to be rooted!
3) Download GPS toolbox https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
4) Reboot.
5) Enable standalone GPS and Google services NOT Verizon services.
6) Open GPS status select options/tools/reset . Then options/ tools/download
7) Reboot
8) Open GPS status and wait for lock . Mine took 5 min a friends took 3. Then open up navigation .
9) Profit
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I posted this for a new member who could not post on his own. Welcome and thank Silver1882 for this potentially great find if it can be proven out by the senior members that have documented this problem with GPS. If it can't be proven we will pull it down and/or the mods can move it as a potential fix to general.
"My gps wasn't working on my phone. I took it to the Verizon store after I had flashed back to stock, they messed with it for a little while and then ordered me a refurbished one. I received it the next day and when I powered it on guess what the gps didn't work. So I called tech support and to my surprise the person that answered the phone actually knew what she was talking about.
She told me the gps issue is a Samsung issue, (even though is only effects Verizon and sprint phones) they are working on an update to fix it. But in the mean time she told me how to do a work around to get it working. Here is what she had me do."
Go to Settings
Application manager
click all at top
go to Google services framework
clear data
go to settings
Application manager
click all at top
go to maps
clear data
uninstall updates
Go to location services
turn off VZW Location service(leave it off to)
Power cycle phone
update maps from android market
now the gps should be working.
"After she walked me threw that I went back to my original phone and tried it on that one to and my gps started working on that one also so I sent Verizon there refurbished one back.
I hope this helps others and they will quick blaming the ROM for the problem."
Thanks Silver. I will bookmark this one as I have seen this reported on all rom thread.
wonder if everyone should do this after flashing a ROM, because I had this problem when I went to Cleanrom. back to stock using clockwork nandroid and no GPS issues.
devilchrist said:
wonder if everyone should do this after flashing a ROM, because I had this problem when I went to Cleanrom. back to stock using clockwork nandroid and no GPS issues.
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That is what we are trying to find out. Much better than flash unknown configuration files and such. If this works it looks to be much safer and actually looks like a benign solution that if it doesn't work can't make the problem worse. If it is a known issue by Samsung/Verizon there will be an upcoming fix and this could be a safe work around until then.
A VZ rep tells you to leave off VZ location services, I love it! I've actually never enabled it and never had a GPS problem between flashes. I guess paranoia pays off sometimes.
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A VZ rep tells you to leave off VZ location services, I love it! I've actually never enabled it and never had a GPS problem between flashes. I guess paranoia pays off sometimes.
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HaHa. I hear ya. But should be able to turn back on after reboot for the noobs that want the feds to know where they at.
Yeah, they need to do something about this. I always have people report this problem. Im gong to direct theme here and see if it works.
Just tried it. Took a little longer for lock, but 15/25 satellites after 45 seconds and 3m accuracy on JellyWiz indoors.
Well I just happen to have my original phone and a refurbished phone sitting in front of me because the GPS was crap on my original. With the refurb the GPS works great.
I hate to report this because I wish it was true/worked but i just followed the instructions on my original phone but it is still sitting here 2 minutes (now 5) with no lock indoors.
I still don't believe the gps issue can be fixed with any software tweaks. The only way the gps finally started working on the original samsung galaxy s (after trying everything) was from a kernel fix. Once a dev fixed it, everyone's phone had great gps (which works better than the gs3 gps). Too bad JT1134 turned on some people's offer for a bounty phone to get him working on this.
Besides if this did fix the GPS wouldn't a factory reset fix the GPS?
I must be lucky but i have great GPS in stock based ROMS (not so good in AOSP). Get first lock in 2s and less then 4s max. Quickly get to 3 meters and fast lock in Google maps, Waze, etc... Can post some screens if need be.
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what if you don't use google maps for GPS? (what if it's not installed in the 1st place?)
it seems like the fix is based on gmaps data?
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I must be lucky but i have great GPS in stock based ROMS (not so good in AOSP). Get first lock in 2s and less then 4s max. Quickly get to 3 meters and fast lock in Google maps, Waze, etc... Can post some screens if need be.
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I have to agree. Mine is the same. Get auto lock as soon as app is opened and shows me in this chair in front of my laptop. What we need to find out is how many this works for. So far by polling threads against posts in this thread it is about even for and against. It is early but you always have people on both sides and those that refuse to believe and think it is the devs fault. We supposedly have Verrizon/Samsung saying it's their fault and have to see where it goes. We have too many on different roms including stock unrooted that are having the same problem to tie it to the rom devs.
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what if you don't use google maps for GPS? (what if it's not installed in the 1st place?)
it seems like the fix is based on gmaps data?
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Android and Samsung/Verizon unless it is a dev phone did not not design the phone to be used without Google Maps. They have to have a reference for them to test and calibrate. Google Maps is a standard that most 3rd party apps work off. Just my thoughts and may be baseless but have to have a standard to calibrate to which is latitude and longitude. That being said without the maps you would not know if it was right or wrong. If their modem calibration is off it is off on all apps. The main thing is do you acheive lock on multiple satellites. Basically what I read on this fix is to turn off other radios and towers so GPS can get a fix without tower triangulation interference. Does it work. I have no idea since mine works fine. Is it worth a shot if you can't get a lock. I would think so.
Sorry for the noob question, but what exactly does "power cycle phone" mean? Isn't that just a restart?
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jus flashed synergy rom and cant get my gps to work. even with google selected the navi wont start up..i tried the first step but Google services framework isnt even listed
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Sorry for the noob question, but what exactly does "power cycle phone" mean? Isn't that just a restart?
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Reboot/restart
cdiesel said:
jus flashed synergy rom and cant get my gps to work. even with google selected the navi wont start up..i tried the first step but Google services framework isnt even listed
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I'm on Synergy and it is listed same as stock rom.
Homescreen>Menu button>Settings>Application Manager>All> Scroll down to Google Services Framework
Tried this thrice. No GPS lock. Bummer.
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Reboot/restart
I'm on Synergy and it is listed same as stock rom.
Homescreen>Menu button>Settings>Application Manager>All> Scroll down to Google Services Framework
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after a bunch of factory wipes it finally showed up but my gps still isnt working.. whenever i start the navi the drop down box will only disappear when standalone gps service is selected..even when i click the gps icon in the pull down standalone is what is chosen.. dont know what to do
edit.. there isnt an uninstall update for me either just uninstall google maps
Didn't work for me, on jelly wiz
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nice, thanks.
On jellwhiz, i used gps status and was coming around with it and it funked up my orientation and resetting Google services framework, clearing data, uninstalling updates to map and clearing data followed by a reset fixed my gps calibration
Beamed via NFC through the local store to the internet from my SGS3.
Is there anyone else experiencing problems with their GPS? It actually started yesterday on the trip to North Carolina to play golf. I couldn't get a lock on the GPS with google maps for GPS status app. I finally did and it would come and go. I used my golf gps app and after 15 seconds it got a lock and worked all day. I needed to use my maps today for navigation and it seemed to be doing fine until I got near my destination lost GPS lock. I did regain it but I'm wondering if anybody else is having this problem? It was working fine up until yesterday
Install fastergps and set it for your country/region, it'll lock faster and be more reliable...
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Wombat said:
Install fastergps and set it for your country/region, it'll lock faster and be more reliable...
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I will give it a try and see how it does.
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Install fastergps and set it for your country/region, it'll lock faster and be more reliable...
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What about accuracy? Will it improve?
GPS if fine on mine, never had any probs once I set it to my country etc...
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Well I have tried everything and I'm still having GPS problems. When I do get a fast lock now it will freeze somewhere during navigation and lose GPS. My golf GPS app will take a but but will do OK once a lock is obtained. I can't believe I'm the only one with this problem.
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I use the GPS all day for work so it on/off multiple times, I always set my phones with fastergps so don't know if there was a problem on stock GPS info...
Have you checked it set to use 100% hardware GPS and not part software lock etc..
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How's the GPS performance for everyone else on stock?
No GPS issues here... Used Google Maps navigation a fair bit.
dmarden said:
No GPS issues here... Used Google Maps navigation a fair bit.
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Same, works fine here. I can recommend the app "GPS Status", this allows you to quickly see why you lost GPS lock and how near to regaining it is. There are many reasons why you could have lost the lock other than possible hardware defects.
I have the same problem though. Usually takes below 10 secs to lock but sometimes it takes forever to get a lock on. But rebooting solves it...
soralz said:
I have the same problem though. Usually takes below 10 secs to lock but sometimes it takes forever to get a lock on. But rebooting solves it...
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I am having GPS issues as well. Received my phone over the weekend and attempted GPS for the first time yesterday. I couldn't get it to lock on at all my entire hour long commute. Attempted 2x yesterday and 1x today, still no luck. Also tried Waze just in case it was an issue with the app but no luck. Really frustrating. I looked on the 1+ forum and looks like someone else reported the same issue. Did any of those other recommended apps make the situation better for you?
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I am having GPS issues as well. Received my phone over the weekend and attempted GPS for the first time yesterday. I couldn't get it to lock on at all my entire hour long commute. Attempted 2x yesterday and 1x today, still no luck. Also tried Waze just in case it was an issue with the app but no luck. Really frustrating. I looked on the 1+ forum and looks like someone else reported the same issue. Did any of those other recommended apps make the situation better for you?
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Try reboot your phone, switch on data connection and High Accuracy location settings. Under open area it should lock under 10 seconds.
I am pretty sure it has something to do with this buggy CM11s.
soralz said:
Try reboot your phone, switch on data connection and High Accuracy location settings. Under open area it should lock under 10 seconds.
I am pretty sure it has something to do with this buggy CM11s.
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. I did try rebooting previously but I may have been in the parking garage already which is a reason it didn't work.
Oneplus one GPS problem
I am experiencing the same issue. No gps satellite reception at all. I cleared all the caches and rebooted. Data and high accuracy are both enabled. I ran GPS Status and there are no satellites registering with wide open view of the sky. Can we simply swap the GPS files like we all did on the Samsung? This seems more like a hardware issue than buggy locking.
Thanks! Keith
Did you try downloading the A-GPS Data through GPS Status? I get good locking (at least 8 satellites)
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dansou901 said:
Did you try downloading the A-GPS Data through GPS Status? I get good locking (at least 8 satellites)
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thanks for the tip, downloading app now
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Did you try downloading the A-GPS Data through GPS Status? I get good locking (at least 8 satellites)
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I have downloaded every app and tried different settings but still does the same thing. It seems to work fine and then when you get close to a destination it just freezes. I get a lock eventually but it goes away especially on maps. It seems to keep a lock on my golf gps once i get a lock. Getting old having to take an extra phone just for gps,
well, I just sensed some time until it gets the lock. after locking the signal, I've found no problems at all. Ingress, plays just fine
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Oneplus one GPS problem possible clue
OK, I tried the following after every easy fix known. My GPS was never locking. I had no satellite signal what so ever! I pulled the 6 GPS files from the newest CM nightly and over wrote the existing files then rebooted. Cleared the GPS state and cash with no change. I then wiped the device and re-flashed the OPO stable cm11s ROM and started with nothing but GPS Status installed. The GPS worked perfectly. I then reloaded every other previously installed app. Once they were all installed the GPS was again dead. One of my apps is causing a conflict with the location services. I am now installing them one at a time and then testing the GPS. So far I have not identified the culprit. I will post an update when I do. My suspicions lie with one of the root mods like Juice Defender or Greenify.
Stay tuned.... This will take a while.