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So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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francous said:
So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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To add to this question: If it were to come back, would it cost more? That will be BS if it does! What sly corporation skills for taking away something people like, and then giving it back for a higher cost. D:
HERE ya go
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HERE ya go
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Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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francous said:
Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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lol, I feel ya. Sort of...I have the unlimited plan
But you'd be surprise how many people don't even come close to the 2gb plan. I use the tethering moderately and stream pandora quite a bit, and there's only been a handful of times that I went over the 2gb mark. I'd say for the majority the 2gb is enough, plus they are offering another extra 2gb. I just don't like how they are charging extra for the tethering.
I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
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Same here - never reachd 2gb... but I need it for peace of mind. I don't have even check what I've used on my phone. I have to worry constantly about my wife and daughter going over their limits. In fact, my wife accidently went over her 200mb limit by using DroidTV and not having it set for "Wifi Only", coupled with her WIFI settings still at the default setting of "Turn off WIFI when screen goes off" instead of "Never". Even if she was set at 2gb I could see an accident like this happening and costing extra money.
AT&T claims that they notify you when you reach 60%, 90% and 100% of your limit. This is bullsh*t. They don't. First, data use reporting is about 12 hours behind. You can blow your cap by quite a bit in 12 hours. Next, when she went over 200, they sold her another 200 for $15 without any text. I believe this can happen up to 5 times ($90 for 1.2gb). 12 hours later she got a text and I got an email saying she was nearing her limit - but the limit she was nearing was 400mb (the second set of 200mb). We were never informed as she blasted right past the first 200mb. Thank goodness she only had a couple movies set to download. If she had a series recording it would have cost a fortune.
I want to set a hard limit and then have data shut off at that point. Don't sell me extra data automatically. Maybe for technical reasons, they don't know for 12 hours... so they once they find out turn off my data and don't charge me for the overage. Until they can and will do this, I don't think they should be selling limited data plans. Until they can send you warnings in a timely manner, they shouldn't be selling limited data plans.
To AT&T's credit, I was able to retroactively change her data plan to the 2gb plan back to the beginning of my billing cycle - so the mistake cost me $10. Now out of piece of mind I will probably have to keep her at the 2gb plan even though in the past she's never even come close to the 200mb.
RE: Verizon "unlimited"... I can understand temporarily throttling back a heavy user maybe for few hours or days, but not for the rest of the billing cycle and definately not for the next billing cycle. Can you imagine you make one mistake like my wife did and have your speed crippled for up to 2 months? How can they even legally cripple service for a future billing period?
This is important for us to follow because AT&T is probably watching this approach closely and will eventually adopt it for us as well.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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5% is a huge number of customers - probably a lot of them being business customers. Once enough people get throttled back Verizon may have to rethink this approach. Consider what Comcast did. They went from unlimited to 250gb. That's a very reasonable limit that certainly doesn't catch 5% of their internet customers. Of course as time goes by they will have to adjust that 250 up or they will start catching more and more customers.
I don't think they've defined what they consider heavy users yet. It must be pretty low to include 5% of data users.
An even better option would be data buckets, where your unused data rollsover. I've gone near the 200mb cap quite a few times since the default settings cleverly turn off wifi when the phone sleeps :rollseyes:
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"Demographic Research" is why we have the 2gb plan in the first place.
That's why I believe the unlimited plan will be eventually phased out also. Yea, their offering the unlimited plan again, but to me that's mostly PR to get more customers because cases like this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/verizon-breaks-first-day-sales-record-with-iphone-4-pre-orders/ I don't really know how truthful that is, since corporate tend to inflate stats for the press.
But competition is good for the consumers, as long as both these billion dollar companies are in high competition, it should be easier on the wallet for us. Hoping...but still believe they are ripping us off as consumers (and I will keep the reasons why to myself, I've seen what it did to the other threads )
These are all opinions, and I take your posts as opinions. So...can we keep this civil. The other threads I've seen regarding this subject matter tend to get heated, which I do avoid (I have enough drama in my life
I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I don't think the limited plan is a bad idea, but I do see the amount going up and up. Since mobile internet access will exceed home internet access in the future, in my opinion. Which in turn costing us more and more.
As richb500 said, it is important to follow this and see what AT$T does.
When I was following the Fuze/Tilt2 forums it was pointed out that the is no true unlimited plan. The plan is called unlimited but in the TOS it states that over 5G of data transfered ATT can terminate your service.
All carriers have that clause in their respective TOS.
I have the old unlimited plan and have gone ovef 5G once but repeated go over 4G and never got any warning messages about my use.
Just a word of caution.
Sprint seems to be very loose with enforcement. A co-worker has an EVO and uses upwards of 20G a month using it has a hotspot and has never been warned about abusive use which is again in the Sprint TOS.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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shouldn't have to terminate it.
if they weren't greedy and shortsighted they could get most to move over voluntarily with the right incentives.
For Example - Anyone with unlimited who is willing to Renew a new 2 year contract on their voice and take a capped data plan gets to choose any At&t Phone @ no cost with the upgrade. Couple this with informing users that stay on the unlimited they will face throttling if it is abused....(soft cap of 5 or 6 gb).
75% or more would likely take advantage if they could get the latest phone for free (iphone, atrix, whatever else comes down the pike).
Couple it with a marketing campaign to the effect of TETHER AWAY. No charges for tether as we respect your right to use the full potential of your phone. Give 250mb data free to all smartphone users. Offer 2gb @ $25 and 4GB @ 45$ (same as tether pricing but removes the stigma and bad taste of being charged for something that costs them nothing and is a native capability of the OS/Device). Keep the $10 overage charge per every GB of data over the cap.
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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francous said:
Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
Good for us consumers, but anyone that is like me that uses 1GB a day with ease "when you are at work with nothing better to do then surf the net, and watch movies" it becomes a problem, lucky I have unlimited data though and I don't see why they don't sell it to more customers because most who have it don't use nearly that much so its extra money in the pocket
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
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The unlimited data plan offering is not official, and I don't think customer service will know anything until Verizon iphone official launch date. What I've been reading (ex.) http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/at-t-quietly-matching-vzws-unlimited-data-plan-for-iphone/9317
But this is only a business move, in my opinion, since there are certain criteria you must meet to get back the unlimited plan.
And for your question: No you can't lie about not having a smartphone, when actually you are using a smartphone, they will know.
So my Girl had a flip phone from ages ago, she had the wap 2.0 internet on it "unlimited for like 5 bucks lol"
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so i got her an Inspire 4g.
i was trying to figure out a way to give her internet access without having to add a data plan for 30 bucks.
phone is not rooted but i can root it.
i searched but nothing helpful was found on this subject
can it be done? if so let me know. thanks.
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Bump,, still need your knowledge!
It's not possible to do what you want or to be running GB on a non-rooted phone.
Krayvon said:
So my Girl had a flip phone from ages ago, she had the wap 2.0 internet on it "unlimited for like 5 bucks lol" but the phone only did 2g. maybe EDGE class 10.
she wanted a phone like mine "htc evo rooted to senergy : ) " but shes on att so i bought her an insipre 4g.
i was trying to figure out a way to give her internet access without having to add a data plan for 30 bucks.
phone is not rooted running gingerbread.
i searched but nothing helpful was found on this subject.
kindly advise ways around it to save her couple bucks. i am pretty handy with phones on CDMA side not so much on GSM. so your help is appreciated.
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I don't know about how to get around the data plan, but I don't think you can be running Gingerbread not rooted.
Its all about luck, i bought an iphone from ebay and used it without a data plan for 6months, then i sold it and bought htc aria, within one hour of inserting a sim i received a message from att that we have added a data plan for your smarphone
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ahm12 said:
Its all about luck, i bought an iphone from ebay and used it without a data plan for 6months, then i sold it and bought htc aria, within one hour of inserting a sim i received a message from att that we have added a data plan for your smarphone
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i think you guys misunderstood me, i edited the post so it makes more sense.
i wanna know if i can get her full internet access on her phone without having to change her ad on feature.
thanks.
You should be able to use wifi for free without a data plan. Menu > Settings > Wireless and Networks, just trun on wifi and you can download as much as you want. You just can't use 3g/4g without a data plan unless I'm mistaken.
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Jake33108 said:
You should be able to use wifi for free without a data plan. Menu > Settings > Wireless and Networks, just trun on wifi and you can download as much as you want. You just can't use 3g/4g without a data plan unless I'm mistaken.
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not true, she has a data ad on her account right now (thats how she was getting data on her flip phone)
i was hoping a dedicated way around it not just utilizing wifi.
i use to get full data on my n95 with "tzone" back in the day. and i was only paying 6 bucks a month and got unlimited internet and 3g
i know there is a way around it, just need to ask the right person
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not true, she has a data ad on her account right now (thats how she was getting data on her flip phone)
i was hoping a dedicated way around it not just utilizing wifi.
i use to get full data on my n95 with "tzone" back in the day. and i was only paying 6 bucks a month and got unlimited internet and 3g
i know there is a way around it, just need to ask the right person
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So, what you think is that all of us are too stupid to know about a way to get free data if there was one? Our phones are rooted, hacked, Undervolted, OC'd and modified to death. But for some reason we all missed the free interwebz..... ........more dot.......Dots.......some dots againz...
She is on a smart phone now. It can download easily 5 and 6 gigs a month. ATT isn't going to let you do it for free.... And the data plans aren't just 30 bux. There are 15, 25, and 35.. Each for certain types of users. 15 is 200mb, 25 is 2000mb, 35 is tether and 4000mb
Those are your choices. Notice free is not one of them.
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tweaked said:
So, what you think is that all of us are too stupid to know about a way to get free data if there was one? Our phones are rooted, hacked, Undervolted, OC'd and modified to death. But for some reason we all missed the free interwebz..... ........more dot.......Dots.......some dots againz...
She is on a smart phone now. It can download easily 5 and 6 gigs a month. ATT isn't going to let you do it for free.... And the data plans aren't just 30 bux. There are 15, 25, and 35.. Each for certain types of users. 15 is 200mb, 25 is 2000mb, 35 is tether and 4000mb
Those are your choices. Notice free is not one of them.
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wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
Krayvon said:
wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
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long story short, u might be able to get a data access with watever plan she has right now...
but att has a list imei of smartphones, as soon as you gonna put in your sim in the inspire within two days they will add a 15$ plan period..
there is no way around it..
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wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
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There is not a whine in the post. Just facts.
1. You think ppl are stoopid.
2. You want free.
3. You aren't gonna get it.
4. The only douche is you. Not once did I criticize you. You can't even comprehend what you read.
Whine example;
waaaa. I want free interwebz, waaaaa.
See the difference?
P.S. Now I'm making fun of you, more so then criticizing. Just in case your comprehension skillz still haven't kicked in.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/0...ll-have-separate-30-unlimited-tethering-plan/
interesting, thanks for sharing!
Will tether for root be affected by this change? Will the only change from verizon on July 7 the removal of their Mobile Hotspot capability?
I am curious as to what they might do to limit third party apps.
I really wish I had good data service in my house because I would really get this plan....4G is way faster than my cable modem
I would jump on this if I hadn't just talked time warner into 40 bucks/month in discounts for keeping my hotspot....
There has to be something missing here...that's way too good to be true..we shall see though
Holy crap this is fantastic news!
This could be AWESOME!!
Does anyone know if Vzw is going to throttle the heavy users???? I think that's going to be the deal maker/breaker...
Thoughts? Input from vzw rep? C'mon, let's get some real details on this!!!
So this would be an additional $30 on top of our existing $30, for $60 total if you want unlimited tethering, or am I reading this wrong?
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So this would be an additional $30 on top of our existing $30, for $60 total if you want unlimited tethering, or am I reading this wrong?
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30 for unlimited data on phone, and yes 30 for unlimited (verizon certified) tethering
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We don't get any real details till after it goes live, maybe the day before LOL.. I would assume some sort of throttling would have to take place...$30 is cheaper than any internet service out there let alone this fast
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We don't get any real details till after it goes live, maybe the day before LOL.. I would assume some sort of throttling would have to take place...$30 is cheaper than any internet service out there let alone this fast
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Thirty is cheaper yes.. but $60 isn't
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But sixty is considering you were already paying for cable/DSL/whatever
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Don't be cheap... Buy it.
Verizon should leverage the $30 unlimited data plus this $30 tethering to get into AT&T controlled DSL/U-verse territory.
not really a bad deal if you ask me, if you want a 4g hotspot device or usb modem there is NO unlimted plan and the cheapest you can get on that is 50 bux for 5 gigs so 60 for unlimted plus being intergrated with your phone sounds fair to me.
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not really a bad deal if you ask me, if you want a 4g hotspot device or usb modem there is NO unlimted plan and the cheapest you can get on that is 50 bux for 5 gigs so 60 for unlimted plus being intergrated with your phone sounds fair to me.
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I've got a hotspot from time warner and unfortunately its on sprints **** network. But since they gave me a bunch of discounts, its cheaper to keep it and not get the tethering plan.
But for time warner, all data (3g and 4g) is unlimited. The only reason I chose it over something else.
Don't help us Verizon customers. Plus why pay for something that dosent work, even if it is cheaper. Sure u have herd.the old saying you get what u pay for.
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Doesn't work? I haven't had a single issue with it...
The hotspot is 30. The other 30 you already pay...so 30 is what it would cost to use for your home internet, not 60... Semantics and math are hard.
Interesting.
I have a question on tethering. Is there 0 tethering without the plan? I tether maybe once every few months, for 5-10 minutes while I check an email or something. Is there like a 10-15MB allowance before you have to get the unlimited plan or another plan?
I mean without root and alternative tether apps.
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not really a bad deal if you ask me, if you want a 4g hotspot device or usb modem there is NO unlimted plan and the cheapest you can get on that is 50 bux for 5 gigs so 60 for unlimted plus being intergrated with your phone sounds fair to me.
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I for one really regret having bought a mobile hotspot the month before I got a Thunderbolt, and ending up locked into a 2 year contract on a $50/5GB plan.
Has anyone actually been caught by the tethering police? I mean have they sent you a notice or anything?
Also, do you think I would be caught? I have used between 11 to 20 gigs a month for 6 months straight with my previous phone(Tilt2) and now I that I have the Infuse, would they even know If I was tethering or not since I would be using the same amount of data as I previously have?
Any input would be appreciated
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Lol
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antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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That doesn't really answer my question... but hey, thanks!!
antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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well if he stops know, theyll suspect something!
tbh, i pay for unlimited data. ive tethered a few times but not more than checking that i can or to run speed tests. even though i dont really tether, i still use alot of data. thats why i have the unlimited data plan. att knows this. ive been paying them for years to know this.
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well if he stops know, theyll suspect something!
tbh, i pay for unlimited data. ive tethered a few times but not more than checking that i can or to run speed tests. even though i dont really tether, i still use alot of data. thats why i have the unlimited data plan. att knows this. ive been paying them for years to know this.
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I'm not going to get into the "well unlimited is unlimited and why does it matter how I use my unlimited." That's an argument that I feel both sides has a good argument for, so why waste the time.
I have no issues if you download gigs of porn to your phone, month after month. My issue is with the people that tether to excess just because they can. I can't tell you how thankful I am that ATT did lose a good amount of customers to VZW when the iP4 hit their shelves. Now those fanboys are bogging down the VZW network and not ours. Now I can only hope that more of these guys look for greener pastures so my bill stops inflating.
att prepared for the iphone originally with its separate apn and all that. it helped but you saw more iphones with down service than other phone users. really set up a bad name for att. has anybody even bought the iphone on verizon? i remember the launch day being a flop, havent really kept up with apple news since then.
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I'm not going to get into the "well unlimited is unlimited and why does it matter how I use my unlimited." That's an argument that I feel both sides has a good argument for, so why waste the time.
I have no issues if you download gigs of porn to your phone, month after month. My issue is with the people that tether to excess just because they can. I can't tell you how thankful I am that ATT did lose a good amount of customers to VZW when the iP4 hit their shelves. Now those fanboys are bogging down the VZW network and not ours. Now I can only hope that more of these guys look for greener pastures so my bill stops inflating.
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I do not tether on excess just because I can. I do it because I have no other means to connect to the internet and It wouldn't be the same on my phone's browser. Yes it has a flash player plugin, but that doesn't mean I can do everything I can do in a computer environment. If I had access to internet by any other means, then I wouldn't tether from my phone. There was no need for you or anyone to be harsh to me without hearing my side of the story thank you very much.
MikeyMike01 said:
Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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Agree. If I tether a lot in a month, MAYBE I'll cross 2 gigs. I make a point of keeping my tethering light.
However with the new phone I suspect I'll come closer to that 2gig limit a lot more often. (Fortunately I don't have it, since I'm unlimited.)
But 11-20 gigs/month without paying for tethering is just plain irresponsible. With abuse like that I'm surprised you haven't gotten busted and I wouldn't feel sorry for you if you did.
I had a grandfather plan - $20/mo unlimited data.
I've changed 5 or 6 smartphones since I had it, now on Infuse 4G, I'm getting the sucky-ass AT&T 4G speeds, tether to laptop when needed - no tethering plan.
I don't use that much though, about 2GB/month max.
I asked AT&T rep directly about this - she said they'll never change the plan unless I specifically allow it. She said they can't switch me.
well, there is that tethermanager.apk on stock that seems to report back to AT&T if you're tethering.
then if they feel like it they will text you and say "don't keep doing it or we'll swap you to the tethering plan"
you can freeze that with titanium backup (well you need to be rooted too) and that reactivates the stock tethering stuff built into the phone (both mobile ap and usb tethering)
hwaters said:
well, there is that tethermanager.apk on stock that seems to report back to AT&T if you're tethering.
then if they feel like it they will text you and say "don't keep doing it or we'll swap you to the tethering plan"
you can freeze that with titanium backup (well you need to be rooted too) and that reactivates the stock tethering stuff built into the phone (both mobile ap and usb tethering)
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Well that really isn't helpful(since I have already done all that) but thanks. I'm talking about AT&T's "Tether Police" that monitor data spikes and accuse you of tethering if your data seems different for any other month.
Earlier this year, a At&t added a tethering plan to thousands of accounts based on data usage. They also alerted many more they would do the same. I only know of three people to have this done to them
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MikeyMike01 said:
Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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That's why att sucks ass...
Grapes
I've been unlimited for years now, i don't know nor care how much data I use. I can tether if I want, which means if my home internet goes down and I need my pc, guess what... I'm tethering. I give att $200 per month for my phone plan over the past 4 years at lest, I highly doubt they'll piss me off and attach a tether plan to my account.
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Rldowney said:
Earlier this year, a At&t added a tethering plan to thousands of accounts based on data usage. They also alerted many more they would do the same. I only know of three people to have this done to them
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While what you say isn't exactly what happened they have been flagging a very large percentage iPhone users who have tethered even for a matter of 3 minutes.
I currently have an iPhone 4 (should finally have my INFUSE today) and only one time have tethered and probably for less than 30 seconds just to see if the Cydia app worked. All I did was go to speedtest.net and ran the test 2 or 3 times. That was it. About 2 weeks later I got the WARNING text. Plan was never changed. They only will change it if you ignore their warning(s) and do not call them to "discuss" it as they request in their text.
As for me, traveling in North, Central and South NJ, AT&T 3G is virtually useless. Speeds are terrible and the latency is horrendous. I have no idea how people can actually regularly use tethering. I guess it's better in other areas. Been that way through 3 iPhones over 4+ years so I have no desire to tether anyway.
I think the tethering and data caps are completely separate issues. ATT had a plan, or at least the idea, for tiered data plans long before the iPhone was even capable of tethering without being jailbroken. Tethering plans are complete bull****, and I'm sure the FCC will eventually make them illegal. If you pay for a data connection, you should be able to use it any way you want. It's like ATT trying to charge you for the separate phones in your house (or at least a premium to allow you to use more than just one phone). I also think the tethering police are a joke too. I'm sure (especially since they allow sideloading), that any kind of traffic that can be generating by a computer can be replicated in android.
According to T-Mobile support (I just got off the line with them) and this article from phandroid.com, effective January 25, 2012, T-Mobile is throwing in the "tethering plan" (which is now called SmartPhone Mobile Hotspot) and the MobileLife Album Plus plan for people who upgrade their data plans... It will save you $20/month! Go get it!
How's this any better than the free tethering/hot spot options we get in the custom ROMs?
Good question... I don't know is my answer.
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How's this any better than the free tethering/hot spot options we get in the custom ROMs?
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Hmmm... That's a good question. Do you mean that I have been paying $14 for tethering unnecessarily??
As for the remaining $6, I suppose that is for the MobileLife Album Plus service (which I also wasn't aware of and don't need or use)...
For me, I had been paying both the tethering fee and the 5GB fee... when I called to complain (because of the new deal being offered), they dropped my tethering fee (re-imbursing me) AND provided (the service which I don't use/care about) MobileLife Album Plus.
In short, my bill was reduced by $14.
How can this be good for you?
Well, I don't know. Like sooooo... many other things, I simply cannot answer that one.
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Hmmm... That's a good question. Do you mean that I have been paying $14 for tethering unnecessarily??
How can this be good for you?
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Look into it more. T-Mobile mentioned it to me and I got the impression from what the guy explained to me that having the tethering plan counted data differently. Meaning when tethering you are not using up the 5 gig 'limit' before slowdown that you have on your phone. Which would obviously be beneficial because when tethering to your computer you hit that data cap pretty fin quickly.
Hotspot is built into the stock rom, so I never thought twice about it... never get billed for it, but have certainly used it.
As for the 5GB plan they push you into, if you don't use it you can get them to drop you to the two gig.
I am almost always around wireless, so any DLing I do is through wireless, I haven't hit 2gig even in the past 11 months on this phone.
I'm on a very old MyFaves 'special' plan that I don't plan to 'upgrade' from unless they force it, the only thing they have ever changed is forced me to add the 4G data plan at $30 last year, which I got them to drop to the 2gb plan at $15 I think it is now..
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As for the 5GB plan they push you into...
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I am on unlimited everything... though they cap you a 5 gigs then slow you way down. I have hit it and it is a b*tch! Which was my point with what the op said... from what I understand your tethering won't count towards your mobile data...
Saving money is different from debating techniques... LOL
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I am on unlimited everything... though they cap you a 5 gigs then slow you way down. I have hit it and it is a b*tch! Which was my point with what the op said... from what I understand your tethering won't count towards your mobile data...
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Yes, I was on unlimited everything... but started my plan 9 months back under a 2GB. Now, when I had signed up (having been used to another plan which I have from a different provider), I had thought "unlimited" meant just that. But during my 2nd month, I went over... and received text messages informing me that I would be throttled... and life was so unfair.
But, I called them up and added on the 5GB limit. (I had initiated my plan with tethering...) The point of this post was simply to alert those who (like myself) are paying at an older rate... that they may be able to reduce their bill by roughly $20.
I complain when my vendors (carriers, manufacturers, providers, etc.) cause me pain... I try to be equally willing to give kudos when warranted. In this case TMO warranted my kudos for working with me... and I was simply alerting others who may find themselves in the same situation... that they might get a free lunch out of the deal.