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JesusFreke please read this.

Well today i had everything setup like i wanted. I had JFv1.41 rc33 version install on my g1 and a custom Theme. I wanted to switch my them for a new more looking one. So i download a new custom and install it. to my surprise i install an old them which i install. Boot the phone and got the T Mobile G1 logo and that it i get stoke there. So here why i made this tread to tell JesusFreke in the next or when ever he could add a USb toggle in recovery mode. I am stoke with this till 2 days. This will help allot of first g1 noob. Thanks for your time.

ok
A: next time make sure you download a theme that works with your version of JF
B: why didnt you put this under JF's thread?
C: if you have an update.zip(or something that can be renamed and used as such) you can go to the recovery console, type "mount sdcard", then use the basic linux commands to put it on the top directory of the sdcard and restart and load it up, thus fixing your phone. If not, you should keep on somewhere on your phone just in case such a need arises

[email protected] said:
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A: next time make sure you download a theme that works with your version of JF
B: why didnt you put this under JF's thread?
C: if you have an update.zip(or something that can be renamed and used as such) you can go to the recovery console, type "mount sdcard", then use the basic linux commands to put it on the top directory of the sdcard and restart and load it up, thus fixing your phone. If not, you should keep on somewhere on your phone just in case such a need arises
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So you want to be a smart ha here i go.
A) People can make mistake
B)I did that because i wanted to make Jf read this thread and it will help people like me who don't really have the knowledge on using Linux easy.
C)I don't really know that much of using linux like u.

I'm sure many people send JF many PM's wanting the same thing as you do. Do you think he has the time or want to answer a question that someone else might be able to answer?

Making mistakes is something you need to be more careful about. Having root means the phone will let you do whatever you want. This means safety features that are made to protect you from yourself are not active. Read about what you are doing before doing it. That is the message n00bs need to be given.
Put the sd card in your computer, place the .nbh file on it, reboot into bootloader and downgrade your phone. Then work your way back up to JF 1.4x and read more carefully before you install themes. I know my way around the G1 very well (if I dont say so myself) but I still do not install themes. They are nice, but they are not at the point where installation is as easy or system friendly as they could be.

Blue*lable said:
C)I don't really know that much of using linux like u.
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I've never really used Linux myself, as it seems more complicated than it's worth most of the time, but I've had no problems so far using a rooted G1, or installing custom firmwares, etc. I haven't tried themes, but from what little I've read into it, not only does it seem fairly straight forward, but I've also noticed quite a few of them warn the user that they need to be running the Lite version of JF 1.4x before they install a theme because otherwise there simply isn't room. That said, it's not up to JF to babysit everyone that decides to delve into the unknown.

I dont understand what your problem is,
if u dont know about linux buy an microsd to SD adapter, extract microsd from your phone and use a computer to copy JF's latest update.zip to your card and then upgrade usual way
what is the problem?

JesusFreke if your reading this I just wanted to say "Hi" and "Thanks" and ... and.... Ummm ...

Everyone in here relax.
Try not to direct threads to a specific person. This is a developement thread. You want a specific someone to read something, send them a PM. If you are lucky he will read it, if he doesnt have them turned off.

How and why do you people know all of this?

I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"

No offense intended, but I don't think you should root your phone or carry out any of the procedures outlined in the developer forum. Following instructions to the letter is important when you are performing unauthorized and unsupported hacks, and most of those instructions assume an intermediate-to-advanced level of computing understanding.
As far as "where you learn it", I assume it varies from person to person. Although in nearly all cases, you learn it slowly by absorption when you are immersed in computing culture. Eventually if you lurk enough and see a word enough times in a particular context, you gain an understanding of what it means without being explicitly told.

You learn as you read through forums and threads and asking questions. If you're lucky, someone will explain it to you.
A script is like a programming language that controls a software application.
Nandroid is a tool or script you can use to backup your phone. It takes a bit of knowledge to restore from the backup though and requires a separate thread
You can read all about SPL's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
Can't help you with busybox/adb/recovery image right now.
FAT32 and EXT2 are just file type partitions. Think of a hard drive as a box. You put a divider cutting the box down the middle to split it into 2 compartments so each compartment can store something different. That's essentially what you do to a SD card when you create a FAT32 and EXT2 partition.

I learned all this by totally screwing things up, then reading, and reading some more. Then using the search function of the forum and of course more reading.
Now I understand a good deal about ADB, terminal, and the many, many other things that come with a rooted phone,,
I don't agree with the post that said if you don't get it don't try it.....
But that is cause I learn by doing...

As mentioned, doing this is a little complicated. The wrong step can temporarily brick your phone and then you'd have to know how to fix it, which in a way also requires a certain level of knowledge. It's best to learn and absorb the information first and to NOT be in a hurry to implement what you learn.
DMaverick50 said:
I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
DMaverick50 said:
This will be invaluable to fixing a botched up hack. Although, many times you'll also have to wipe (alt-w) to clear out your personal settings and personal data.
DMaverick50 said:
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
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As mentioned, we all just love the stuff, and pick it up as we go. Most of us read extensively and have well set backgrounds on computers. If you want to get your degree in brain surgery, it helps to have basic knowledge of human anatomy, first.
DMaverick50 said:
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
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Nandroid is a backup program build into the... "recovery mode" for lack of a better description. It's where you do the alt-s at. Alt-b creates a backup of your system. To restore it, you must read the thread sticky that walks you through it.
DMaverick50 said:
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
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As mentioned, FAT32 and EXT2 are types of filesystems. Think of it as being told to store a box in a wearhouse. The filesystem, in a sense, would be like the isles, shelves, etc. that help you not just have a giant pile of stuff.
This is asking you to have an SD card that has been partitioned off into two partitions (a giant wall in the middle of the wearhouse) where on one side you have one way of storing things that is easily understandable by the average joe (windows, linux, apple) and one side that is much more complicated but much more efficient to store things that only the wearhouse manager understand (linux.)
DMaverick50 said:
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
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No. We all started somewhere. Nobody here came here and understood everything over night. Most of us have YEARS of experience in the computer field, if not decades. As far as knowledge here, it takes months of READING to really start to understand things. Once you do, THEN things will make sense and then you're less likely to break your phone.
DMaverick50 said:
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
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Read, read, read. That's my way.
And like mentioned, a script is just what it is in real life. Something you follow. If I gave you a movie script, you follow what it tells you to do while in the movie. In the computer world, it's the same. You write a script that tells the computer what to do.
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I see you joined few days ago. I suggest you start from the begining. i.e. read all stickies. Every questions that you've asked here was asked before by someone else and answered multiple times.
To offer a glimpse of hope here: it's a lot easier for n00bs now as more and more people get comfortable with Android and Android tools and it's not just 2-3 guys who can answer a question. Also, at this point we have apps that will run a script for you, move your apps and caches to SD, overclock you CPU, etc etc etc.
Welcome to XDA and good luck

For the APPS2SD do this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
OH, first backup EVERYTHING on your SD card to your desktop.
Open the terminal program... I always do this **** in adb cause you wont catch me dead trying to type and read a small screen when adb is copy and paste.
type
su
cd /data
wget http://64.105.21.209/bin/lib/droid/sdsplit
chmod 555 sdsplit
/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 7500M (thats for an 8 gig card. so adjust it depending on what side card you have 4 gig = 3500M etc...)
Now you need to make sure you have an APPS2SD rom... That makes /system/sd available. Now you have to copy and make "aliases" from the old spot to the new... Million threads on that one. Just wanted to give props to "MartinFick"s script (bunch of commands in a file I guess you can say. You can run any partitioning sw on windows 7 or I would of gone that route...

i appreciate the replies. Ive been on this forum for about month checking throughout the day (instead of paying attention to my professors) but only signed up recently to post.
I do understand the concept of nandroid and the sd partition, I just get lost in the processes very quickly. In my life Ive only learned by screwing things up so im ready for almost anything. I dont want to get stuck without a phone though so Ill definitely try to get a better understanding before trying anything dramatic. I guess Ill keep looking for some website that has a search where I can just type in all of the language I dont understand, surely this type of site exists I just havent found it yet...

southsko said:
For the APPS2SD do this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
OH, first backup EVERYTHING on your SD card to your desktop.
Open the terminal program... I always do this **** in adb cause you wont catch me dead trying to type and read a small screen when adb is copy and paste.
type
su
cd /data
wget http://64.105.21.209/bin/lib/droid/sdsplit
chmod 555 sdsplit
/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 7500M (thats for an 8 gig card. so adjust it depending on what side card you have 4 gig = 3500M etc...)
Now you need to make sure you have an APPS2SD rom... That makes /system/sd available. Now you have to copy and make "aliases" from the old spot to the new... Million threads on that one. Just wanted to give props to "MartinFick"s script (bunch of commands in a file I guess you can say. You can run any partitioning sw on windows 7 or I would of gone that route...
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The steps seem doable but it says to use jesusfreak's build, i am on dude's will this be a problem? thanks

Simple...we are the borg! The apparent knowledge is actually just one giant shared conscience, connecting our minds together from the time we log onto XDA...and we think you should join us. *Evil Laugh*

knight4linux said:
Simple...we are the borg! The apparent knowledge is actually just one giant shared conscience, connecting our minds together from the time we log onto XDA...and we think you should join us. *Evil Laugh*
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ROFL.
DMaverick50 said:
I guess Ill keep looking for some website that has a search where I can just type in all of the language I dont understand, surely this type of site exists I just havent found it yet...
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I'm not sure if that exists. You see, almost all of those terms were invented by people in THIS forum.

DMaverick50 said:
The steps seem doable but it says to use jesusfreak's build, i am on dude's will this be a problem? thanks
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I did it on the dudes. Any (i think) build that enables the ext partition to be mounted to /system/sd will work...

So can I partition while on this regular build and then flash the apps2sd build or do I need to first download an apps2sd build and then do the actual partition?

some help
When it says to use the jf build that's just the one he used and is familiar with the steps the root hack the phone are the same no matter what. Now the thing you want to do is learn one proccess and stick with it weather it be abd, fastboot, or the sdcard method for beginners or noobs I do not suggest adb or fastboot cause it require knowing how to use a comand line and if you don't know what that is then don't try it. But like everyone says read about it first before you take the plunge also since you have a friend who can do it have him show you how he does it sometime seeing it done on the fly or being told while doing it with someone there to take over if things go wrong is always good. Have fun flashing and once you figure it out do it a few time to get used to it

DMaverick50 said:
I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
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heheh .. didn't we mention we're all a bunch of geeks - LOL - genius cannot be found here (pointing at self) .. i have been known to have a couple bright ideas now and again tho
"script" is just a funny way of saying "we did the work for you" .. all those lines of text that nobody wants to type over and over and over are all neatly packed into one little file .. type the name of the file and VOILA!! all those lines of text are spit into the little pocket sized computer and you have no blisters on your thumbs to show for it
now .. if we could only find a script that got us thru rush hour traffic

DMaverick50 said:
So can I partition while on this regular build and then flash the apps2sd build or do I need to first download an apps2sd build and then do the actual partition?
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I did what I posted then flashed the APPS2SD rom and then transferred everything over, but when I flashed it it still had all my apps so I would say you can do it before also.
Remember to nandroid backup before you try and move all your files.
OT
Once you get adb running sending all these commands are so easy as you copy and paste and you can restore your phone back the way it was in 2 minutes...

southsko said:
I did what I posted then flashed the APPS2SD rom and then transferred everything over, but when I flashed it it still had all my apps so I would say you can do it before also.
Remember to nandroid backup before you try and move all your files.
OT
Once you get adb running sending all these commands are so easy as you copy and paste and you can restore your phone back the way it was in 2 minutes...
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i see. im so much more confident attempting the partition after these posts im tempted to ask for the same help with nandroid since ive looked through the threads. But I guess i should head to one of them and start asking questions i know they run a pretty tight ship around here with duplicate threads and off-topic ones and what not...

nandroid was so much harder to read in the thread than it actually is
I'm hoping this thread may help other people.... and will try and help till I run out of beer.. anyway
restoring a backup when you are can connect with fastboot is so simple. Once you get adb working then dl and put fastboot in the tool dir. Then you go to your sd card /nadroid/randomcrap/whatever date/ and copy the 3 files below into the same tools directory.
from the command line on your computer type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
I flashed to one of the first cupcake roms and was like **** this! flashed right back to my old backup. ahhhhh!!!

southsko said:
nandroid was so much harder to read in the thread than it actually is
I'm hoping this thread may help other people.... and will try and help till I run out of beer.. anyway
restoring a backup when you are can connect with fastboot is so simple. Once you get adb working then dl and put fastboot in the tool dir. Then you go to your sd card /nadroid/randomcrap/whatever date/ and copy the 3 files below into the same tools directory.
from the command line on your computer type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
I flashed to one of the first cupcake roms and was like **** this! flashed right back to my old backup. ahhhhh!!!
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Get ready to laugh..............adb? Fastboot? Everything else looks straight forward ( I assume I'm copying the 3 things to sd thru cpu)...

lmao...

[Q] Step by Step GTnT Tablet mod procedure?

Hello there,
This is my very first post, having just purchased a G Tablet yesterday. I don't have a problem with modding the tablet. i just want to make sure that I follow the proper steps. sorry if this is already posted somewhere. There is just SO much info here, it's hard for my small brain to wrap around it.
1) Install clockwork recovery
2) Install uodate.zip(?) for Tnt
30 instructions for installing the above.
Is that it?
What would i need to revert to "stock" in case I muck it up?
I am excited to do this tomorrow, so any guidance will be greatly appreciated. I am in awe of the talented people here.
Thanks in advance.
Mark

no, root it first.
google 'g tablet rags'

i am with you...i wish there was a "install tnt light for dummies"
....ive commented on this elsewhere and never get a good answer....
like
1. turn on gtablet that you just bought.
2. now push the home button
3. now push the blah blah button
4. now you should see the giggle button
5. push the giggle button...
6. goto you laptop and download gigle 5.0 from this www. giggle 5.0com
this way an idiot like me could do it!!
none of the " zip file 2.3 then encrypt 3.4 and backflash 5.3 to a sd micros next install .509 giggly zip to kernel text into a gigabyte flash drive root file"
seriously wtheck is all of that! lol i really don;t get it but would like the update

Perhaps this might help...
http://www.youtube.com/user/ehunyadi

Very easy, between
Searching this site
Searching Google
Searching Youtube
You will find all the answers. It's not difficult if you do the research, maybe a bit scary but not difficult.

mlinder1958 said:
Hello there,
This is my very first post, having just purchased a G Tablet yesterday. I don't have a problem with modding the tablet. i just want to make sure that I follow the proper steps. sorry if this is already posted somewhere. There is just SO much info here, it's hard for my small brain to wrap around it.
1) Install clockwork recovery
2) Install uodate.zip(?) for Tnt
30 instructions for installing the above.
Is that it?
What would i need to revert to "stock" in case I muck it up?
I am excited to do this tomorrow, so any guidance will be greatly appreciated. I am in awe of the talented people here.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
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That is the order. The first page of the stickied threads are usually all the instruction you need. They are the ones with the thumb tack symbol. Once you do it once and realize the ease you will off and running

Thank you all for your input. I appreciate it.
I was all ready to dive into it this morning, when something told me to make sure everything works first (I just bought it Thursday).
Well, it appears the USB port DOES NOT WORK. I plugged in a USB Flash, a USB card reader - no worky. I called tech support and they said reformat the USB flash to FAT32, boot with it plugged in. Still no work.
So I have a bad unit. So back to Office Depot it goes. DARN.
Bad luck!
Mark

[Q] creating backups

just got my GS4g yesterday, and it's my 1st SP (yay), rooted it with SOC - and I'd like to make a full backup of it's 'out of box' condition ..so I found this Froyo CMW thread and would like to utilize it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
however, it assumes the reader has previous knowledge of wtf they're talkn about..
I read further in the post "I have sent this to Koush as well to have it added to Rom Manager" - so I ran over to market and DL'd Rom Manager, but now I can't find the file ..hell I even googled "I downloaded from android market, where's my file" and no useful results come up ffs xD - so then I find this thread (yay) - but I can't afford to buy an app, here an app, there an app, everywhere an app app - so are there any free root explorer type applications? -ALSO- how do we mount our device as R/W? ..as it seems every single tutorial I come across is ambiguous
anywayz, I'd be really grateful if someone could help me out here..
I'd like to make a full backup of my 'out of box' Froyo, update it to stock 236, make another backup, flash it to Valhalla black 236, make another backup, ect - thanks for the read

KotsChopShop said:
just got my GS4g yesterday, and it's my 1st SP (yay) - and I'd like to make a full backup of it's 'out of box' condition ..so I found this Froyo CMW thread and would like to utilize it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
however, it assumes the reader has previous knowledge of wtf they're talkn about..
I read further in the post "I have sent this to Koush as well to have it added to Rom Manager" - so I ran over to market and DL'd Rom Manager, but now I can't find the file ..hell I even googled "I downloaded from android market, where's my file" and no useful results come up ffs xD ..anywayz, I'd be really grateful if someone could help me out here - I'd like to make a full backup of my 'out of box' Froyo, update it to stock 236, make another backup, flash it to Valhalla black 236, make another backup, ect - thanks for the read
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1. Never use Rom Manager! ever!
2. Root your phone and then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on. There are enough Roms here that you really do not need to worry about a stock back-up but, as always it is good to back up everything. Trust in the THE BIBLE as it is your friend.

thanks for actually reading my post :rollseyes: lol
1] ok.. but I DL'd it, where is it so I can delete it? lol
2] already did, and I already found the bible (thx tho)
the problem is these tutorials and guides are ambiguous, and all of them assume you have prior knowledge of what their talkn about.. pretty much , no, exactly like the last
few statements of your own post "then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on" = lolwut? :/
I can't make a backup because.. well, read my 1st post again lol

KotsChopShop said:
thanks for actually reading my post :rollseyes: lol
1] ok.. but I DL'd it, where is it so I can delete it? lol
2] already did, and I already found the bible (thx tho)
the problem is these tutorials and guides are ambiguous, and all of them assume you have prior knowledge of what their talkn about.. pretty much , no, exactly like the last
few statements of your own post "then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on" = lolwut? :/
I can't make a backup because.. well, read my 1st post again lol
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1. setting/applications/ROM manager/ uninstall
The rest would take a full page post. If I were you I would just go straight to GingerBread and do not worry about trying anything with Froyo. For that go here GB starter pack and follow the well detailed directions and if still confused I will do a step by step for you for GB. The aforementioned guide tells you what to get and where to put it and what to press. The technical knowledge will come in time after dealing with Roms, kernals, flashing, etc. You don't really need to know anything other than what files to use, where to put said files, and what buttons to press and that will get you rooted and Rom'd. Before your rooted and Rom'd you should learn what does what and why and that will take a lot of reading and time but, if your impatient like a lot around here you can always learn after you've rooted and Rom'd your phone.

thanks for your replies swann, underneath my amagad, I do appreciate it lol
ok so.. I DL'd RM last night, but apparently it didn't install because it's nowhere to be found...
it's not in my apps, and idk where DL'd files are stored so I can delete it (it's not on my SD either)
anywayz, before I do anything else, I want to make a backup of my out of box Froyo
(and idgaf if anyone thinks I should skip this part, I still want to do it =)
and in order to do this, I went here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
but since it doesn't fully explain the how to's, I went here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
but then I don't have root explorer, and can't afford to pay for a bunch of different apps, therefore, I need to know of a trusted/stable/free alternative - and I also don't know how to "mount my system as R/W"
...and when I google it, nothing helpful comes up.. or is that something indigenous to root explorer? (which wasn't explained, because as I stated, all these so called tutorials are ambiguous)
wait.. is it me or do I seem to be repeating myself? *scratches head* lol
I have all kinds of patience swann, I can do all the research and studying that's needed without qualms - as I know exactly how it is.. I own and operate a forum which specializes in teaching kats how to mod the gta series and how to model in 3d applications.. and we home grow some of the most talented kats the gta modding scene has ever been blessed with ...but that's because all of my tutorials are concise and clear and leave nothing to guess - as are my answers to everyone's questions - so when I ask a question and nobody answers it, but thinks for some reason that they did, I tend to get a little uh.. how should we say.. urhrhr towards them because they're obviously wetoded or some shyt lol
anywayz, assistance would be greatly appreciated..

1. Are you rooted? If not, you will need to do this first.
2. ES file explorer is a good free alternative to root explorer, you will have to go into setting to allow for system files.
3. You would be better off just downloading a stock Froyo Rom and using that as your back-up but...if your wanting to do it your way you will need to be rooted and for that you will have to read because I took my phone out of the box, plugged in USB to the computer and installd GB before even setting the phone up so I am not sure of the process of flashing Froyo or if it even differs from GB. After that I will be happy to help you when you get to point of wanting GB.

KotsChopShop said:
rooted it with SOC
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yes, I am rooted
thank you, I'll have a look for it asap
my plans are this; backup out of box Froyo, install stock/factory 236 update, backup that version of GB, then flash to Valhalla 236 black w/FBis's debloater
the reason I didn't automatically update to Tmo/Kies 236 is because I've read about the bad KJ6 modem causing text send errors as well as gps failures..

Dude fyi, Samsung doesn't make android. All new people see to credit Samsung for android. Google makes Android
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uhh weally? lol ..yes, I understand that
but exactly what relevance does that hold with anything I've said thus far? ..was it because I mentioned Kies? - and if so, soeffnwhat.. your post effectively does nothing in it's frivolous existence lol

KotsChopShop said:
yes, I am rooted
thank you, I'll have a look for it asap
my plans are this; backup out of box Froyo, install stock/factory 236 update, backup that version of GB, then flash to Valhalla 236 black w/FBis's debloater
the reason I didn't automatically update to Tmo/Kies 236 is because I've read about the bad KJ6 modem causing text send errors as well as gps failures..
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I believe the problems arose from using the leaked KJ6 items. I have not had any problems using anything related to KJ6 items built from the source. When you get to the GB flashing/Roms and such and have any problems just let me know.

for real? ..ok, I'll back this ish up tonight and [email protected] if need be
edit; welp, I decided to just roll with it and install stock 236 w/o backn up Froyo.. and it's exactly as everyone says, longer text messages and/or messages with images will not send :mutherF*$*ingSuicide:

Official Nook HD and HD+ Dev thread (Temporary Only)

So, let's be honest.. I know that this is a Nook Color board, but given the delay in an HD board coming around, I thought I would throw a bone out there for users. Here are the ground rules for this thread:
1) This only a hold over, and will be moved/closed as appropriate when a correct forum is made.
2) In this forum, this is the only topic where HD/+ content may be posted. Any bleed over to NC threads will be merged were possible, and closed where needed. Consider this thread the entirety of the HD/+ developer board right now.
3) This topic is for true development only; general discussion will be moved to the discussion thread.
With that said, consider this thread open, at least until we know what is happening with an official board..

Divine_Madcat said:
So, let's be honest.. I know that this is a Nook Color board, but given the delay in an HD board coming around, I thought I would throw a bone out there for users. Here are the ground rules for this thread:
1) This only a hold over, and will be moved/closed as appropriate when a correct forum is made.
2) In this forum, this is the only topic where HD/+ content may be posted. Any bleed over to NC threads will be merged were possible, and closed where needed. Consider this thread the entirety of the HD/+ developer board right now.
3) This topic is for true development only; general discussion will be moved to the discussion thread.
With that said, consider this thread open, at least until we know what is happening with an official board..
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How about incorporating this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994129 here so the discussion can continue, or is it reopened elsewhere?

That thread is not development ( dev threads must either be the release of software (ROM, kernel, tool), or active development discussion (debugging, error logs, etc). The the guide is handy, it would not belong on a dev board anyway ( when the time comes, its proper place will be general discussion).
Now, if somebody wishes to post a rooting tool, and some guide with it here, that would apply. Otherwise, discussion belongs in the open general thread).

Divine_Madcat said:
That thread is not development ( dev threads must either be the release of software (ROM, kernel, tool), or active development discussion (debugging, error logs, etc). The the guide is handy, it would not belong on a dev board anyway ( when the time comes, its proper place will be general discussion).
Now, if somebody wishes to post a rooting tool, and some guide with it here, that would apply. Otherwise, discussion belongs in the open general thread).
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Are you then going to reopen this thread in the general forum/thread?

The thread that is open in the general forum is sufficient to handle current discussion. As I have mentioned before, once I have an actual place to put HD threads, they will all be reopened and moved where appropriate. I am sorry that you do not have an HD forum yet, but would also like to remind you that you are lucky to have ANY HD threads in a board for a totally different device.
As it is, this is not the place for this particular discussion. This is a DEV discussion topic. If it will not be used as such, I will close this thread, and just have everything back under the general thread. Given how many people had been asking for this, I had hoped to see more progress than just being badgered here..

If you users appreciate help given by me, verygreen, someone0 and others, please stop badgering Divine_Madcat to open other threads here in Nook Color. This is not a Nook HD forum and he is giving us a break by keeping this open. Just keep pushing him and we will lose this one too.
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Like I promised, I am publishing a cwm image that people can boot off sdcard. Grab it here.
To install: gunzip and dd into an sdcard (not a partition, but entire device) whose content you don't care about.
This is targeted at people experimenting with root only at this point, so that they don't need to undergo the full 8-reboots-factory reset scenario.
When you screwed something up in system, just put this sdcard in, and it'll boot on the next reboot cycle.
adb into it, and:
Code:
busybox mount /dev/block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/by-name/system /system
fix whatever breakage you introduced, and then umount /system, remove sdcard and reboot.
This is a very minimally functional thing right now, uboot menu and all other fancy stuff is disabled for now.
More full-featured thing and device tree are still coming, hopefully very soon now.

Thank you, verygreen! Just in time. I semi-bricked my HD+ again messing with framework-res.apk and it won't boot. I was afraid I would have to 8 fail reset again. This should get me out of it. Will report back.
Edit: Worked! Got it to boot to your CWM. Had to install a new driver (Windows) because it has a new device ID. Chose Android ADB Interface from list. Installed fine. ADB worked. Serial number is a dummy 123456789... ADB shelled to mount /system per above command. Pushed original framework-res.apk and rebooted. Victory! Thank you so much.

I have a NST that I rooted awhile back that I love. My brother wants to get a Nook HD or HD+ for his wife and wants to know if I can root that as well. I am having trouble finding specific resources for that. Is the Nook HD+ perm rooted yet? Are there still some work that needs to be done with development? It's a newer device so I would completely understand that.

LuckBox63 said:
I have a NST that I rooted awhile back that I love. My brother wants to get a Nook HD or HD+ for his wife and wants to know if I can root that as well. I am having trouble finding specific resources for that. Is the Nook HD+ perm rooted yet? Are there still some work that needs to be done with development? It's a newer device so I would completely understand that.
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In progress. See above, here, and here.

verygreen said:
Like I promised, I am publishing a cwm image that people can boot off sdcard. Grab it here.
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Thanks! It's working fine for me too.
verygreen said:
More full-featured thing and device tree are still coming, hopefully very soon now.
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I look forward to this.

verygreen said:
Like I promised, I am publishing a cwm image that people can boot off sdcard. Grab it here.
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Thank you for this.
When a CM10 is released and we install it to the sd card , can we still use this sd card for storage etc or does it all have to be taken up by cm10 ?
Also with the current way you are getting past the bootloader does this mean cm10 will only work from an internal sd card and we wouldn't be able to load it from internal memory ?

sorrowuk said:
Also with the current way you are getting past the bootloader does this mean cm10 will only work from an internal sd card and we wouldn't be able to load it from internal memory ?
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I don't think he can, at least not initially. Mainly the problem is the locked bootloader. It's like you have a PC that don't allow you to reinstall windows/linux on the HDD/SSD. But it still allow you to boot from USB/CDROM/floppy. Sure in case of linux (not too familiar w/ android, so I won't say that it can for sure), you can have just the kernel on a floppy and the rest of the OS on the HDD. I know some people do this to lock down their machine. The entire OS is sitting on a HDD encrypted with one missing part, the kernel. Then you boot it from the USB which have the kernel and the decryption key for that HDD. It's like a physical authentication method and can be combine with password and that make it two-factor authentication. Then again whoever does that better backup that USB key, or he/she would be toasted if that USB become corrupt or lost.

sorrowuk said:
Thank you for this.
When a CM10 is released and we install it to the sd card , can we still use this sd card for storage etc or does it all have to be taken up by cm10 ?
Also with the current way you are getting past the bootloader does this mean cm10 will only work from an internal sd card and we wouldn't be able to load it from internal memory ?
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Booting from internal storage is possible too, but I we are not in the state yet where people should be replacing BN software with CM, as such I think sdcards provide enough playground for now to mature the product before we move further.

Noob question, since I am using Windows, how do I 'dd' the image onto the sd card?
TIA
PS found this for other Windows users:
http://nookdevs.com/Nookie_FroYo:_Burning_a_bootable_SD_card
PSS ok, that worked but I couldn't find what I horsed up. Just had to reboot 8 times and start over...

dbh369 said:
Noob question, since I am using Windows, how do I 'dd' the image onto the sd card?
TIA
PS found this for other Windows users:
http://nookdevs.com/Nookie_FroYo:_Burning_a_bootable_SD_card
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You can use a few different software in windows to write the image to SD card. Try https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download, I personally use version 0.5 if I have to us a windows machine

CelticWebSolutions said:
You can use a few different software in windows to write the image to SD card. Try https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download, I personally use version 0.5 if I have to us a windows machine
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Thanks, yes, my link got me there too.

Divine_Madcat,
This one needs to be moved to dev and renamed. It has verygreen's CWM in it. Or at least move that post over there somehow.
edit: you moved his rooting thread there. Why don't you just move his CWM post to that thread and close this thread.
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