I've done a bit of a research and found out that there is some Wifi connection issues regarding DS's design, just wanted to make things clear before i go ahead and grab one. Is the Wifi signal that bad when you hold your device in landscape/cover the top of you device? Because i will mainly use Wifi as internet source, so, just to be sure.
Thanks.
Well obviously, you haven't done that much research. WiFi issue is most likely related to software "feature", but it doesn't affect every owner (I assume it's related to WiFi signal value).
indeed there is already a fix for this issue.
I actually did the research and found out that its software related since someone was using the DS rom on a DHD, and problem exists, just forgot to mention it in my first post , so there is a fix already? I think i am going to get it then
Just to continue my role as doomsayer on this, I believe that the root cause of the Desire S losing wifi connections is design and hardware related. If it can be improved by software, that's good, but I think any software fix (there is no easy fix at the moment and certainly no fix from HTC) will be a sticking plaster rather than a permanent cure.
I hope I am proved wrong.
Edward i think you are wrong because i have tested the desire s + iphone 4 range and the iphone 4 loses connectivity before the desire s does. albeit the connection is slow and unusable at the range it was tracking further than the iphone but that kind of prooves it is just as good for a phone.
I can only speak from my own experience of the DS, which was unusable at my office and home where my old Desire worked fine, as do iPhones.
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did you implement the wifi software fix?
No, it is way beyond my knowledge I'm afraid.
It really should not be necessary for anyone to be expected to do a complex fix on a brand new device.
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No, it is way beyond my knowledge I'm afraid.
It really should not be necessary for anyone to be expected to do a complex fix on a brand new device.
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It's not expected of course, but you have to understand the fact, it doesn't make it HW issue. Every device has it bugs. That's what updates are for. You can try the fix or wait for HTC. It's sad but true.
I know not all users experience this issue but it may just mean they have WiFi router placed somewhere else or have stronger signal. I doubt that HTC would release phone with huge HW issue like this.
Of course, this is just my opinion (my Desire S should arrive in week or two), so maybe I'll change my mind after that
Good luck with your machine when it arrives, I can recommend the Incredible S!
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Hi, What's the software fix? My desire s has crappy wifi reception compared to my other gadgets.
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It's not expected of course, but you have to understand the fact, it doesn't make it HW issue. Every device has it bugs. That's what updates are for. You can try the fix or wait for HTC. It's sad but true.
I know not all users experience this issue but it may just mean they have WiFi router placed somewhere else or have stronger signal. I doubt that HTC would release phone with huge HW issue like this.
Of course, this is just my opinion (my Desire S should arrive in week or two), so maybe I'll change my mind after that
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the problems on the DS are quite minor & software related (for most devices)
& so can be corrected through fixes or HTC may even give OTA
@edward the incredible S is not worth the extra money as for a similar price you can get a dualcore phone in a month or so...
So which one is more preferred/recommended? DS or IS?
It's your choice:
Desire S: WiFi issue
Incredible S: I don't know about any issues (though I didn't check). Screen is little bit larger. I like the size of the DS screen. And last but not least, IS is more expensive (+20€, maybe more). It also has 8Mpx camera (Desire S has 5Mpx) but according to test I've seen somewhere, DS is slightly better in taking photos.
All in all, if you don't mind the size and price, Incredible S is the choice.
GSM arena compare: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3788
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It's your choice:
Desire S: WiFi issue
Incredible S: I don't know about any issues (though I didn't check). Screen is little bit larger. I like the size of the DS screen. And last but not least, IS is more expensive (+20€, maybe more). It also has 8Mpx camera (Desire S has 5Mpx) but according to test I've seen somewhere, DS is slightly better in taking photos.
All in all, if you don't mind the size and price, Incredible S is the choice.
GSM arena compare: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3788
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Thanks sigh if DS doesn't have the wifi issue like too easy to lose signal its probably the best for me
You are welcome. You can also chech this site for compared photos I mentioned above: http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=1&ma1=291&mo1=1380&p1=10848&ma2=291&mo2=1344&p2=10632&ph=2
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the problems on the DS are quite minor & software related (for most devices)
& so can be corrected through fixes or HTC may even give OTA
@edward the incredible S is not worth the extra money as for a similar price you can get a dualcore phone in a month or so...
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The IS was worth the money for me as - its wifi works! It is a very competent all-round package. I haven't really found a weakness in it.
Yes, dual-core is here or on the horizon, but I am unsure how it will help me in my typical use of the phone, it would not be top of my priority list. But that's just me, everybody tends to use their phone in different ways.
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Edward
hmmm
at my country both the desire s and incredible s cost exatcly the same, which is about 470 euros.
im also stumped on which one to get -.-
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hmmm
at my country both the desire s and incredible s cost exatcly the same, which is about 470 euros.
im also stumped on which one to get -.-
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in my country the IS has a considerably higher price
DS is around 360 euro & IS is around 420 euro
& dualcore phones are to be launched for around 470 euros
that is why i said IS may not be worth it as for 50 euros more you get a dual core phone which is more future proof & also has all the features of the IS
but it is also true that dual core isnt very usefull right now
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Hi!
I returned my Samsung Galaxy S2 back to the store and am now waiting for the HTC Sensation. While the Galaxy S2 is a nice phone, I really despise the TouchWiz. Even with ADW Launcher EX & WidgetLocker mitigating the terribleness of the interface Samsung has built, the stock apps still are very uncomfortable to use - especially e-mail, messaging and calendar are lacking. And most of their other attempts at apps aren't any better - dismal at best.
The back cover is unpleasant to remove which is peeving if you like to switch the battery to a fresh one (although spare batteries are not released till mid-june) or regularly move between different countries and therefore like to change SIMs (like I do).
I also would have preferred a capacitive home-button, instead of a physical switch.
Other bugs (which will probably soon be patched) are bothersome as well, like the 3G data connection regularly stalling - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612
Specs-wise I think having a higher resolution screen will be a very nice addition, the lower amount of RAM & internal storage probably won't be all that noticeable. I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
Are any other Samsung Galaxy S2 expatriates lurking on this board? What were your Galaxy-experiences, why are you now waiting for the HTC Sensation instead?
you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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i dont banter and i have added constructive info. and he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2. and please dont class me with epsix. he is on his own with that. anyway lets see how well this thread goes because i can see it getting ugly. thats all i was saying. some of you guys act so high and mighty that it sometimes get annoying
I returned my SGS2 as well and got Sensation instead.
Sound quality wasn't very good even with Poweramp.
I had a big hope that supercurio will come up with a solution as he did with original SGS, but here what he tweeted
supercurio François Simond
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@kalpik Thanks, appreciated! I start to know my way in Yamaha's driver now. And tend to believe its a non-fixable hardware issue.
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Ok I explored about everything. Clocks, Master/Slave, Effects. I now believe Yamaha messed up by designing a defective DAC for Samsung.
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Flawed, end of story. I'll still explore the external USB DAC option, but nothing related to the Yamaha #MC1N2 unless they fixed themselves
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supercurio François Simond @
@josejacas to my limited comprehension there is a flaw in an internal resampling/oversampling algorithm. Cannot be modified via this driver.
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Of course you need to relativize what I say here. #GalaxySII sound is probably better than most other Android phones. But not iPhone or SGS
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I've lost my hope about GS2 will ever be a good music player like SGS.
Next Thing
I fully charged my SGS2 and turned on Google latitude (As i was travailing), my phone was in the belt pouch, after about three hours i pull the phone out to make a phone call i found my phone burning hot and battery was almost drained. Couldn't bare any more.
I came back home after few days, returned SGS2 and got Sensation.
Sensation is so far so good, Over all very satisfied.
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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i completely agree with you.. but it will never happen because everyone has their opinion and that is what causes all of this nonsense. but fair is fair everyone has a preference but to force your preference on others really pushes my buttons. and you do have to admit they are other who go to other threads to bash others for what they want i do visit the sgs2 forums but out of respect i dont post there because i am not at this moment considering the phone but for knowledge i like to read how it is going.
Good decision.
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I'm agree with you good decision
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I disappoint... Galaxy S II is much better!
Since 2003 I'm a HTC sure user but now I have to disappoint at all with you and with HTC!
I'm very sorry the new sensation is just considered worse than Galaxy S II but we have to admit this is the thuth!
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
4) cameras: Samsung first one 8mpxl, second one (frontal) 2mpxl; for htc sens is 8mpxl the first one too, but 1.3mpxl the sencond one....
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
I'm very sad to tell it but this time I'll change and I'll buy a Samsung...
Good decision OP, who cares about SamSux. I'll give give them 2-3 month and all hell will break lose in there. SamSux bashing SamSux, look at our development section phones isn't release and no clockwork mod yet and we have 3 roms already. That just tells you HTC is more superior than SamSux. Untill they change their filesystem, HTC will be prefer choice for dev community. Don't matter what spec they have.
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I loved the fact that the Galaxy S2 is a very sleek design, thin and light. But the drawbacks - especially in the software area - are very obvious. Their replacements of stock Google apps are, in general, not better but much worse than the original. Plenty of bugs still plague the software - the current version of Music player causes random reboots, data connection is stalling all the time.
Sense (from what I could test on colleagues phones - mainly Desire HD) seems much more thought out and usable to me. I will, still, probably switch to a stock Android ROM, should one arise. But I don't want to be dependent on that.
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1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
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While AMOLED certainly does produce excellent black levels and saturated colours (maybe even oversaturated), after owning a Nexus One with AMOLED since release I do think the drawback of the technology is the inevitable screen burn-in you get after a few months of use. Nothing that is really bothersome, but LCD technology certainly does have its advantages (besides the higher resolution)
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2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
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Considering the high RAM usage of Sense, 1GB would have been nice - but still, 768MB should be plenty.
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3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
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The actual available application memory on the Galaxy S2 is about 2GB, the rest is formated as an internal SD card. In my situation, I typically have about 500MB of app space used - 2GB would have been a nice, but that will still leave me with plenty of headroom once my Sensation is here. A 32GB SD-card will take care of all other storage problems (mainly podcasts, music).
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5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
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This will vary greatly, but the battery access cover on the Galaxy S2 is very flimsy and uncomfortable to remove. I always carry a second battery for my Nexus One, I will do the same for my Sensation. Changing batteries on the Galaxy S2 (as soon as replacements are available in stores) will be a hassle.
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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You may get flamed by some of the fanboys, but at the end of the day it's all about what feels good to YOU and stuff the rest. I again prefer the more solid feel and try to avoid "cheap" plasticky feel, plus have been put off by plenty of users in many forums I've been to who knock Samsung's lack of updates. Hopefully for you they sort this out. Good luck with your choice
I probably still have a month or 2 before the Sensation is available here, and am hoping for some positive news re the bootloader saga.
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i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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There you goes again troll, this man use to have Sensation but dont like it so he bought SGII, I wish him well with his purchase just don't come back here and be a SamSux troll just like you idiots.
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I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
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What do you mean? The HTC sensation doesn't have HSPA+.
I thought they said "runs on 4G network".
http://blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unveils-its-most-powerful-handset/
I currently have a G2x as well as the Atrix. Ordered the Sensation and the SGS2 as well. Been using both the G2x and the Atrix for a while now and so far, I'm inclined towards the Atrix even though it has the locked bootloader simply because Ive had too many random reboot issues, freeze issues with the G2x (even though I've returned it twice) and I'm not concerned about the light bleed issue.
Once I've received the SGS2 and the Sensation (This Tuesday woohooo!!), I'll have all 4 to test with side by side. Will narrow it down to the top 2 and those are the ones I'm keeping I usually have 2 phones (1 work, 1 personal). If anyone has any suggestions or want me to look at/compare something in specific, let me know.
It's funny..... These [email protected] trolls still lurking in our thread searching for every details to start **** up? My my..... Go flash some TouchCrap will ya.. LMAO
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Hello Guys,
I'm new to this section here, maybe I'll also stay here.
I need an advice of you guys.
My current Smartphone is a HTC Legend, it's an older device and also a bit broken (battery hinge).
Today a friend offered me his HTC Sensation, he bought it about half year ago. He wants to switch to an iPhone (eeewww!).
There are a few scratches in the glass. You cannot see them while you are using the Device, but if you look closely in light you can see them.
On the side there are some scratches too (on the metal :S)
But he offered it to me for
250€!!!Shall I take it or would you say I should wait for another device or even for a 4G Device.
I don't know a lot about the stability with Custom Roms (i love cyanogenmod) and about the upgrade availability with ICS for example.
And I loved to mod my HTC Legend, I had S-OFF, but then I had to return it to HTC to let them fix my Touchscreen and I had to remove S-OFF again. And with the current bootloader it's impossible to S-OFF it again
Maybe it would be nice to hear some Germans too, because I don't know much yet about the Plans of o2 for their 4G Network.
And I just have a Netzclub card (The old one with 200MB)
EDIT: At the moment a Electronic Discounter in Germany offers the EVO 3D for 269€ - would it be a better choice, its nearly the same, isnt it?
250 Euros isn't a bad price for it.
You could wait but IMO it would certainly be a big upgrade over the Legend. Maybe it's worth waiting till MWC to see if any new devices like the Ville are ideal for you.
The EVO 3D is similar except I think it's a bit bulkier with 3D and 1GB of RAM compared to the Sensation with an 8MP (EVO had 5MP IIRC), no 3D but is slimmer.
My Problem is that I'm just a Student and I don't have too much money...
The Camera wouldn't be a problem in my opinion...
Basically three options:
Wait, HTC Sensation, HTC Evo 3D
Ahh I see. If I were you I'd go with the EVO then if the Camera doesn't matter.
But if you're not in need of a new phone then it's probably advisable to wait till MWC IMO.
I say get the Sensation, its a great device with some flaws (nothing major tho) but Evo 3D is useless, that 3D stuff is just a gimmick. As for the waiting...well you said you're a poor student (just like me ) so I think it doesnt matter, whatever HTC shows at MWC wont be cheap
If you like cm you will only have cm7 for now. The AOSP ICS support for this rom is pretty lacking. If you want ICS you will have to settle for sense.
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But if you're not in need of a new phone then it's probably advisable to wait till MWC IMO.
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The problem is that those prices are just offers with limited time.
And the Evo doesn't have that much Roms available :-(
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I say get the Sensation, its a great device with some flaws (nothing major tho) but Evo 3D is useless, that 3D stuff is just a gimmick. As for the waiting...well you said you're a poor student (just like me ) so I think it doesnt matter, whatever HTC shows at MWC wont be cheap
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. Can you tell me more about the flaws?
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If you like cm you will only have cm7 for now. The AOSP ICS support for this rom is pretty lacking. If you want ICS you will have to settle for sense.
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Is there any hope for CM9 for the Sensation? And is it already confirmed that the Sensation gets ICS?
OH, just a quick thought, how much internal space does the data partition have? My legend has a 512 mb rom, so not much space left for apps (I'm using data2ext)
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i dont know if that is a good price since i am in the US but the biggest issue i have with my Sensation is AOSP/Cyanogen dev support. if I could go back I would probably go with a Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S 2 X (very similar specs to Sensation) since they have much better dev support
sensation is a great phone. I also own an evo3d. I prefer my sensation over my evo3d. Sensation has more devs and stuff going on than the evo. Though if you wait for the latest and greatest I am sure it will cost a pretty penny. Though another thought if you buy the phone from him and get service I believe you could get a new phone at your carrier but you would have to verifiy that with your carrier of choice.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. Can you tell me more about the flaws?
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WiFi and signal reception can suffer death grip issues (easily fixed if you get a case ) , Sense sometimes crashes for no reason and you can notice that it slows down the phone from time to time, battery life is average. Again nothing serious but it can be frustrating , software problems are genrally fixed in custom roms if you're willing to root it
p.s it has been rumored that we will get ICS after MWC , probably in the first week of March
Well I was looking for an advice , I don't have anyone else to ask so I come here , hope It's okay.
Anyways , I wanted to upgrade from my ds to a sensation xe or galaxy nexus but I was wondering if it is really worth it..
I love the community here , great devs and etc but a small bar on my screen isn't working and its almost impossible to use the phone :/
Now o have few options , either to upgrade either to fix my phone. I like the fact that we are getting ICS..
Any opinions?
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Both those are already old devices. Best look at a HTC One S if you can live with the 16gb internal memory, or the HTC One X if you want the flagship for 2012.
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What do you mean by a small bar isn't working?
Agree with above comments regarding upgrade.
I'd say fix (especially if it could be done cheaply or even better under warranty) and then consider replacing in six months
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You see , my budget is limited to around 400 , 500 dollars at best. (Selling my device and the regular desire )
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i second wnp_79 advice, the HTC One X with its quad-core processor and 1.5gb ram is the one too look out for.
i think the next best thing for you would be the Nexus or could you wait for the Samung Galaxy s3.
All these new phones coming out, its an exciting time for the Android platform!!!
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
I would say go for one s its a superb phone had it for 2 hours with me....
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
What do you mean by "developer phone"?
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
Do what you're saying is that I should stay with the desire s a bit of more time?
I like sense , especially the 4 lite version but I have no problem with the stock android.
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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dan-fish said:
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
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Turns out that the store is being refurbished, and Samsung is paying for part of it
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If it's not a problem, and you can fix its screen problem cheaply - yes, I think it'll be better. Unless you really want to spend money - in this case, all the One X/S talk is irrelevant, and your options are Sensation or AT&T Galaxy S2 - pick whichever you like.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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Buggy like hell, at least the Sense. It's like saying HD2 has every possible ROM ported to it - true, and they were all in semi-functional state since Froyo - so they're worthless. Much like the current ICS ports all around the MSM8x55-based device forums, which are useful only for people that don't use half of their phones' capabilities. But with a small difference - those devices, at least DHD and DS, will get a fully functional ICS, because it'll be officially released for them, while Nexus devices will most likely never get a stable ROM, if I can judge by what happened until now.
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"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
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Aah i see, at first i thought it was a phone for dev only, kinda like for testing purpose. Thank for the info mate.
Arcaneex said:
Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Well i put up my Desire S for sale for 270JDs (about 300$?) and someone offered to exchange mine for his for 80$, not a bad thing i'd say, and i've already had it with this phone =.= (not the desire S itself, just the one i have), so i guess it'll be allright, i just need to find the money now hahaha
i'd like a bigger screen, bigger battery, and i'm a sucker for black/red, also them beats headphones ;D;
although the battery drain will go with the hardware, i think it'll be a bit better than my DS
i think galaxy nexus is a good choice
Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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Made for some interesting reading... appreciate the time taken, and agree with the content therein.
Hello ;
I've been hovering around this device for a long while, been checking reviews and reading every thread on these forums...
The more i read, the more i'm confused, new bugs popping up and complaints like the suckish Multitasking are really makin' it a hard choice on me.
Not to mention the fact that i wanna use the device on Orange network in my country and there is so SIM-Unlock so far...i've seen the SIII and i'm leaning towards the HOX, but i'm too paranoid now thanks to all the issues and bugs !
Thoughts, Anyone ?
Mohanadr said:
Hello ;
I've been hovering around this device for a long while, been checking reviews and reading every thread on these forums...
The more i read, the more i'm confused, new bugs popping up and complaints like the suckish Multitasking are really makin' it a hard choice on me.
Not to mention the fact that i wanna use the device on Orange network in my country and there is so SIM-Unlock so far...i've seen the SIII and i'm leaning towards the HOX, but i'm too paranoid now thanks to all the issues and bugs !
Thoughts, Anyone ?
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Hardware and screen are the best I've seen bar none. But the software bugs are too numerous and too significant for me to recommend it. Wifi, push email, multitasking, are all very important features that are severely flawed for many users of the one x. If HTC would fix these issues I'd recommend it in a heartbeat. If they don't fix then soon I'll be returning mine.
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That's exactly my point, my bro is waiting on my "Go"...and i'm unable to decide if to take this "risk" and get the device and work out the bugs and fixes later
for what it's worth, I really don't have any of the issues of the above poster. I am seeing the multitasking "bug", but other than that, this handset is flawless. I'd say get it! (but this is really up to you...)
I think its luck of the draw or batch problems because I have had zero issues with push email or wifi. Both of these things work flawless on my device. The multitasking of course is the same on mine as everyone else's because HTC did that as a part of Sense i'm guessing to manage memory. I have the AT&T version just to clarify.
Every new device launching sure will have bugs or problems. I'm sure HTC will fix it.
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and about framerate issues at 1080p im still undecided whether to buy or not the HOX but this bug is on the works or the Tegra3 chip will restrain the video abilities of this phone ?
I´ve been following threads here on the forum since launch and since the kernel sources are out any developpment on this ?
well it depends who are you...
if you are a hardcore android user, probably hold a little bit
if you are just a normal user, definitely One X is your best choice! even better than SGS3
OP, why would you want the AT&T One X and not the SIM unlocked international One X?
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Despite all the flaws this phone has... it's a great phone. it'll last you a year or 2 without a problem. Its got a beautiful screen... and if the bootloader gets unlocked, this would definitely be one of the best phones to own. and even w/o the bootloader, its plenty fast. but if you can't handle minor annoyances like multitask, lack of expandable memory... forget about it.
i can live with the agressive multitaasking and with the 32 gb but watching a video recorded by the one x hurts the eye .... and my question is a software update would increase the bitrate of the video or the tegra 3 chip is limited and theres no salvation ?
There is an OTA update being released on May 28 which should fix many issues...the XL, international version has the quad core, but that does not mean its superior...more is not always better...I prefer dual core anyway...however I bet HTC has quad core in next phone...read something about the Tegra 3 not being compatible w the lte radio...not sure though..
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yeah i´ve heard of the 1.30 update any news on the changelog ?
Mohanadr said:
Hello ;
I've been hovering around this device for a long while, been checking reviews and reading every thread on these forums...
The more i read, the more i'm confused, new bugs popping up and complaints like the suckish Multitasking are really makin' it a hard choice on me.
Not to mention the fact that i wanna use the device on Orange network in my country and there is so SIM-Unlock so far...i've seen the SIII and i'm leaning towards the HOX, but i'm too paranoid now thanks to all the issues and bugs !
Thoughts, Anyone ?
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Please dont buy it. If you happen to have a faulty handset god knows this forum will have another thread like " Disppointed w the HOX", or " who else is returning their HOX", or " this/that function is a joke on the HOX", or " HTC really messed up this/that". If you think you cant deal w the POSSIBLE bugs then just dont get yourself into the situation.
I agree...way too many 'whiners' posting threads...I'm not 100% happy w mine but I knew there would be minor issues in buy a brand new release phone..people compare the one x to the SII and SIII...Samsung is OK but the SII feels cheaply made...the AMOLED is not good at all...s3 will probably be similar...the ones crying about HTC should just stop whining on here and buy an S2 or something else..
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HTC's build quality is always superb.
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HOX is great
Mohanadr said:
Hello ;
I've been hovering around this device for a long while, been checking reviews and reading every thread on these forums...
The more i read, the more i'm confused, new bugs popping up and complaints like the suckish Multitasking are really makin' it a hard choice on me.
Not to mention the fact that i wanna use the device on Orange network in my country and there is so SIM-Unlock so far...i've seen the SIII and i'm leaning towards the HOX, but i'm too paranoid now thanks to all the issues and bugs !
Thoughts, Anyone ?
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i was going through the same thoughts, debating over HOX or gs3, finally decided to go with the HOX, its the first HTC phone ive owned and i had the captivate before this one. Such a huge improvement. The only thing that bothers me not having the bootloaders unlocked which i have high hopes from the devs to getting around this. All in all even in its stock condition it works flawlessly for me and performs above my expectations.
From Samsung SG2 to Galaxy Nexus to this, and I have to say it's been a long time since I have been so impressed with a phone. Build quality, radio performance and software tweaks are amazing. The last phone that I had that came close to this was the HTC H D2.
I'm returning my One X and getting the Galaxy Nexus.
I can't support a device or company that has a locked bootloader. Also the dev community and ROM choice for the Gnex is easily the best right now.
Watch. You jump ship on the HOX next day the devs get unlocked bootloader. Happened to me before. Twice. My two cents.
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Hi guys recently i sold my HTC Inspire to get me some jelly bean awesomeness. So I went to craigslist with the budget of around 250-300 and I came to two choice Galaxy Nexus and HTC One X. I am leaning toward HTC one X but i heard that it has been having some hardware problems in signal / wifi strength area which i cant afford to have because of my work requirement.
So guys please help me out here quick which one should i go for and I love Galaxy nexus too but HTC one X hardware is good so I am confused.
And one more thing I dont like Nexus 4 because of its design and its made by horrible LG so its not for me.
Thanks in Advance and I hope to hear some good free advice
Definitely get the one x. You can update to jelly bean via custom ROM and overall the phone is much smoother and better looking than the gnex
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Keep in mind that the WiFi issue related to the antenna clips and casing flex are exclusive to the international (Tegra3) version of the One X. And the since the hardware is completely different between that version and ours, our antenna design does not suffer the same flaw. Basically, you can consider them completely different phones (since they really are), and that particular issue does not apply.
There have been more isolated reports of WiFi and other reception issues on our versions. But as every smartphone device has a different antenna design, and no device is completely free of random manufacturing defects, I'd say the reports for our particular device are on par with the typical comments you get for any smartphone. In other words, there is not a single smartphone or tablet that gets released that doesn't get some complaints about things like WiFi range, battery life, etc. On the whole, I'd venture to say that most people have had a decent to good experience with WiFi range on this device.
Also, some of those that have suffered from poor WiFi reception had it fixed with subsequent radio updates, while others have not. Personally, my WiFi has been excellent. Depending on which radio, its seems a bit weaker than my old phone (Desire Z), but that was outside my house by my grill, a decent distance from my WiFi router (lol). On older radios, the reception at that location was a bit dodgey, but seemed pretty much solved with later radios. Everywhere inside the house, the WiFi has worked fine. Cell (voice and data) reception seems comparable to my past devices.
The One X is an excellent phone. The best around. The GN simply does not compare.
I'd through in a caution about buying from craigslist, though. You and the seller should have some mechanism to return the phone if you aren't satisfied, just in case you do experience some reception or other issue with the phone.
It looks like I'm in the same boat as you, I'm expecting delivery on an HTC One X today...coming from an HTC Inspire. After using it for a year and a half with the CodefireX nightly's.
At 99 cents I figured this was a STEAL, at least until I can save up for a Nexus 4.
To all the current One X owners, my question is...upon receiving my phone, is there anything I should check for...in terms of initial functionality?
My plan is to unlock and root but I've been reading that different firmwares require different root methods?
Thanks, looking forward to being with this community
hdk703 said:
My plan is to unlock and root but I've been reading that different firmwares require different root methods?
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This, and many other things, can be answered by looking at my index thread, stickied to top of the Development forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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Niterider123 said:
Hi guys recently i sold my HTC Inspire to get me some jelly bean awesomeness. So I went to craigslist with the budget of around 250-300 and I came to two choice Galaxy Nexus and HTC One X. I am leaning toward HTC one X but i heard that it has been having some hardware problems in signal / wifi strength area which i cant afford to have because of my work requirement.
So guys please help me out here quick which one should i go for and I love Galaxy nexus too but HTC one X hardware is good so I am confused.
And one more thing I dont like Nexus 4 because of its design and its made by horrible LG so its not for me.
Thanks in Advance and I hope to hear some good free advice
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I don't think there is meaningful difference between JB and ICS and I"ve used both on HOX.
Once I allowed my mind to get past no MicroSD card or removable battery, I grew to be enamored with the One X. I like the capacitive, non-hard buttons. The phone feels solid in my hand. The internal storage card is sufficient for what I use storage for. I don't keep movies to watch on the plane or more than a single version of a Nandroid backup. I'm not a gamer. My GPS maps take about 1gb. Hardware wise, I'd like a slot to stick a toothpick into to reboot the phone.
I have nothing but praise for HTC service. You can actually get a person on the phone without having to wade through 6 menus.
The nice part of this phone on Craigslist is that, if you don't like it, you can sell for almost what you paid. Many almost new ones are available. People entitled to an upgrade, whether they want it or not, take it and sell the phone. The net $ get your bill down by about $10/month.
Thank you very much guys especially 'redpoint73' looks like I have made up my mind to get One X. Thats what i love abt this website people here really support and give great advice.
Thanks again and I appreciate it