When I inserted a 4gb microsd card, it shows up as /removeable and I see under /mnt there is another sdcard folder. is it how its supposed to be? I am planning to root and I want to make sure I have the files in the right place.
I was wondering the same thing
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Yeah "removeable" is the actual micro sd card slot and "SD card" refers to the built in memory. Very weird.
tornadog said:
When I inserted a 4gb microsd card, it shows up as /removeable and I see under /mnt there is another sdcard folder. is it how its supposed to be? I am planning to root and I want to make sure I have the files in the right place.
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Android 3.0 does internal memory differently.
User accessible internal storage is /mnt/sdcard
The external microSD is correct, /removable/
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I recently got a Kingston 8GB class 4 microSD card and installed it onto my captivate , when i connect to windows i can see both my 16GB internal Storage and my 8 GB microSD card , but none of the file managers seem to show the microSD card .
i tried several apps like SDcard speed tester , QSysteminfo etc they all just show the info about the internal Memory and dont really show any info about the microSD card
in the defualt camera option settings theres an option to select stoage and when i select memory card instead of phone and when i connect to windows i can see the photo being stored in my microSD card
also in the filemanager i see a path called SDCard\SD this seems like a soft like to my microSD card
my question is how do i make all these apps to recognize my microSD and say run a speed test on it.
any help appreciated.
Thanks
anilkuj said:
also in the filemanager i see a path called SDCard\SD this seems like a soft like to my microSD card
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Not exactly what you are trying to say in this quote here, but sdcard/sd IS your external sd card.
dontshakepandas said:
Not exactly what you are trying to say in this quote here, but sdcard/sd IS your external sd card.
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Yes
/Sdcard is the internal storage (sometimes call internal SDcard or phone storage)
/SDcard/SD is your external SD card ( MicroSD)
alphadog00 said:
Yes
/Sdcard is the internal storage (sometimes call internal SDcard or phone storage)
/SDcard/SD is your external SD card ( MicroSD)
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Thanks for your response , so how do i run speed tests on this External microSD card all of those apps only recognize the phones internal 16GB memory.
I'm having the same problem with 2 SD cards. It recognizes the card and all that but when I go into file manager and click storage I see at the bottom right /mnt/sdcard and there are a bunch of folder "downloads,dcim,movies etc". They all have files in them but the sd card still shows no space used.
When I pop out the sd card and go to file manager I still see the /mnt/sdcard and all the files and folders are there so obviously it's not storing stuff on the sd card even though file manager says it is.
Any idea as to what's going on?
cali310 said:
I'm having the same problem with 2 SD cards. It recognizes the card and all that but when I go into file manager and click storage I see at the bottom right /mnt/sdcard and there are a bunch of folder "downloads,dcim,movies etc". They all have files in them but the sd card still shows no space used.
When I pop out the sd card and go to file manager I still see the /mnt/sdcard and all the files and folders are there so obviously it's not storing stuff on the sd card even though file manager says it is.
Any idea as to what's going on?
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one way 2 see the cards content is clicking on the notification icon bottom right of notification bar then the folder icon, this opens up the card and its content
correct path being /removable/microsd
cali310 said:
I'm having the same problem with 2 SD cards. It recognizes the card and all that but when I go into file manager and click storage I see at the bottom right /mnt/sdcard and there are a bunch of folder "downloads,dcim,movies etc". They all have files in them but the sd card still shows no space used.
When I pop out the sd card and go to file manager I still see the /mnt/sdcard and all the files and folders are there so obviously it's not storing stuff on the sd card even though file manager says it is.
Any idea as to what's going on?
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the sd card is in "removable"....in the root directory
cali310 said:
I'm having the same problem with 2 SD cards. It recognizes the card and all that but when I go into file manager and click storage I see at the bottom right /mnt/sdcard and there are a bunch of folder "downloads,dcim,movies etc". They all have files in them but the sd card still shows no space used.
When I pop out the sd card and go to file manager I still see the /mnt/sdcard and all the files and folders are there so obviously it's not storing stuff on the sd card even though file manager says it is.
Any idea as to what's going on?
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There's a folder on the tablet called sdcard that is not actually an sd card. The physical sd cards can be seen under removable>MicroSD
So can I assume that the downlods/dcim etc folders don't save to the sd card automatically like on my evo? And if so is there any way to force it to?
cali310 said:
So can I assume that the downlods/dcim etc folders don't save to the sd card automatically like on my evo? And if so is there any way to force it to?
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It definitely seems that the apps think that the sdcard folder is truly the sdcard. I am really curious if you did apps to sd if it would just save the app in the sdcard folder, or look for a physical sdcard. I am wondering if my 16gb is partitioned somehow for system, data, and sdcard space. I am going to play around with this more when I have time.
With certain apps, you should be able to adjust the save location in the settings.
which sd card do you have?
Its treating the internal storage as if its the SD card you would put in a phone mounting it to /mnt/SDcard.
The actual SD card gets mounted to /Removable/SDCard.
It definitely seems that the apps think that the sdcard folder is truly the sdcard. I am really curious if you did apps to sd if it would just save the app in the sdcard folder, or look for a physical sdcard. I am wondering if my 16gb is partitioned somehow for system, data, and sdcard space. I am going to play around with this more when I have time.
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There is no move to SD option in manage application settings as far as I can see theres no way to move apps to SD card, with the storage you get theres probably no need anyway.
/mnt/sdcard is indeed the onboard storage's sd card partition it seems. I think this is done similar to how the DInc handles its internal storage. The problem with things saving automatically to /mnt/sdcard and not the removable storage by default is because until honeycomb and tablets there haven't been any phones that have both internal storage and external sd card storage. The devs therefore only programmed apps that look for /mnt/sdcard because no matter what phone you used, thats either where the external card is or where the internal memory is partitioned as.
Until the app devs themselves update their software to allow for custom default save locations this will keep happening.
For instance, if you put an office document on one a microsd and try to open it inside quickoffice or polaris, you won't find it as those apps don't let you go any higher than /mnt/sdcard, which on the transformer is the internal memory.
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So can I assume that the downlods/dcim etc folders don't save to the sd card automatically like on my evo? And if so is there any way to force it to?
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It would seem they do download to the appropriate directories under /sdcard/, however /sdcard/ is the internal storage, not the MicroSD card. Looks to be a symlink to /mnt/sdcard.
Given this I expect applications that try to save to the SD card will save in /sdcard/, which of course ends up being the internal storage.
Has anyone else experienced problems copying files from the SD card to internal SD or MicroSD? I receive an "insufficeint space" error, even though there is plenty of space available. I can copy the same file from MicroSD to internal SD with no problems, I can copy the same file from MicroSD to SD with no problems. Running Revolver 311 now, had same issue on Krackd 142. Thanks in advance for your help...
I think I'm a little lost with the description... If the internal SD is the internal storage of the TF and the MicroSD is the external storage, how do you connect the other SD?
If its via dock, do you know where does it mount it?
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I think I'm a little lost with the description... If the internal SD is the internal storage of the TF and the MicroSD is the external storage, how do you connect the other SD?
If its via dock, do you know where does it mount it?
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Yes, it's the sd card that goees into the dock. This is my understanding of the mounts:
/mnt/sdcard = internal storage
/Removable/MicroSD = micro sd card in the tablet itself
/Removable/SD = Full size sd card in the dock (this is the one I have trouble copying from)
Thanks for you help, I'm going to assume it was a corrupt file or files. I was able to copy a different file successfully as well as move a folder off the SD card. I'm going to reformat card and copy files from PC to card and then try and copy again and see if I get any issues. I didn't think about corrupt files before because thay were video files and they played just fine.
Queations to all....
Should a App2sd app be able to work on our Notes???
The reason im asking is because I had issues getting my 64g card to mount (ended up having to flash a recent OTA update from Samfirmware.com). I then wanted to move some of my apps to the 64g card but App 2 SD from the market says -
"The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary extremal storage is emulated. Moving app to SD may not be supported by this device. "
Is this normal? I have never come across this before on any Android device before! Or is it something to do with the 64g card? or the Notes file tree?
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Yes it's normal. Samsung make some different approach here.
In my perspective when you used to choose "move to sdcard" in apps manager, the apps move from internal memory to internal storage (/sdcard).
(External microSD card is not on discussion so far, im only talking about tablet internal storage).
Now by default in Samsung devices all apps are going to /sdcard, so you dont have to move them beacuse the are alreday there.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The solution for me (I have white SGN 10.1 16GB) is use DirectoryBind, i can have 20+ GB of games in external microSD Card.
sammmurai said:
Yes it's normal. Samsung make some different approach here.
In my perspective when you used to choose "move to sdcard" in apps manager, the apps move from internal memory to internal storage (/sdcard).
(External microSD card is not on discussion so far, im only talking about tablet internal storage).
Now by default in Samsung devices all apps are going to /sdcard, so you dont have to move them beacuse the are alreday there.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The solution for me (I have white SGN 10.1 16GB) is use DirectoryBind, i can have 20+ GB of games in external microSD Card.
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Think your correct, makes sense anyway!!!
Could you elaborate more on this directory Bind thing you mentioned? ??
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DirectoryBind main feature is to link/bind folders with data that are in external micro sd card, to empty folders with the same name that must be in /sdcard/Android/data or /sdcard/Android/obb. So games and apps thinks they're using internal storage but in fact data is in external micro sd card. This way you save the 11 gb reserved for storage.
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DirectoryBind main feature is to link/bind folders with data that are in external micro sd card, to empty folders with the same name that must be in /sdcard/Android/data or /sdcard/Android/obb. So games and apps thinks they're using internal storage but in fact data is in external micro sd card. This way you save the 11 gb reserved for storage.
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what happen if u update the app that u changed the directory?? will the app save to the new directory or internal?
Didnt understand the question
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Hello, I have previously owned a Galaxy Ace which never had an internal SD storage and things were so much more simpler. Apps could be installed on removable SD. Apps were not confused when installing. I have realised that with this phone, when installing big games for example FIFA 12 or Need for Speed Most Wanted, it thinks that the internal SD storage is the removable SD card and won't download game data due to not having enough space. This 1.10GB worth of storage is totally useless and I would rather not have it for reasons of simplicity and just have a large removable SD card media instead. This 1.10GB internal storage space is insignificant when compared to 32GB removable SD Card and really is not worth the grief.
I have tried Link2SD to overcome this issue without any success as it moves the data files from the /data/data partition to the removable SD but not the Data which has been downloaded to Android/Data directory on the internal SD storage. Now I know that there are utilities (such as directory bind) which can swap the internal SD with the external SD. I also know that you can modify vold.fstab to do exactly the same. But I would rather not have this internal storage or if possible, have it extended to the internal data storage.instead.
Can someone please guide me on how to extend this irrelevant partion to data partition or have it removed entirely and just have a simple storage configuration like I did with the Galaxy Ace or older phones before all these large storages were introduced. Thanks in advance.
you need modified "vold.fstab"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044439
No that just swaps the partitions. If you go to settings>storage the Removable SD card shows as USB storage and the internal SD is showing as SD Card. This is not what I want. Furthermore the fact that external SD is mounted in sdcard path is even more annoying and confusing at times.
What I am looking for is removeable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard. And the internal SD card to be extended with some other internal partition such as data partition or just removed altogether. In simple terms I want the same file structure as my Galaxy Ace S5830.
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No that just swaps the partitions. If you go to settings>storage the Removable SD card shows as USB storage and the internal SD is showing as SD Card. This is not what I want. Furthermore the fact that external SD is mounted in sdcard path is even more annoying and confusing at times.
What I am looking for is removeable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard. And the internal SD card to be extended with some other internal partition such as data partition or just removed altogether. In simple terms I want the same file structure as my Galaxy Ace S5830.
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If want the removable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard then the vold.fstab could do the trick. You said you wanted to play games right? That's what I use to play Need for Speed Most Wanted on my phone. As for the "Internal Storage" or the 1.20 GB Partition, modifying it and adding or removing other partitions would require a .pit file which as far as i know is responsible for partitioning the phone and unfortunately we do not have. Does this answer your question?
It does answer my question although not the answer I wanted to hear. I used to think highly of Android when I used the Galaxy Ace as it did not have this issue due to not having a internal usable storage. But how on hell did Samsung decide to put a puny amount of storage space and mount it as sdcard. I feel sorry for the normal users who have never come across rooting and mods. I am sorry as much as I have love for Android phones, I think my next phone will be an Apple. Never thought I would be saying this but I am honestly tired of this stupid internal sd / external sd configuration. This has even put me off purchasing phones like the Galaxy S3 as you will still have this stupid configuration to get your head over. End of rant.
Is is possible to mount the removable SD card as /mnt/sdcard and the internal puny storage as /mnt/USB or any other name so as not to confuse it with SD Card. At the same time not having the storages swapped and in their right places when checked in settings>storage?
whats the problem with swapping them? I'm hardly annoyed by this kind if situation. if you are almost filling up the 1.20GB storage then you can move some of the apps to the 1.10GB "external_sd". Then to make sure you use the REAL sd card set the default installation path to be internal memory.
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What I am looking for is removeable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard.
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and I say again... if you change "vold.fstab" then you will have that you say above. I have /mnt/sdcard = 32gb and /mnt/sdcard/external_sd = 1.1gb
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and I say again... if you change "vold.fstab" then you will have that you say above. I have /mnt/sdcard = 32gb and /mnt/sdcard/external_sd = 1.1gb
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That is more of a workaround than a fix as swapping it loses the Unmount SD Card options for the removable media in settings>storage. The same with Directory Bind. They both do the trick but not quite the way I would have wanted it to do so.
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That is more of a workaround than a fix as swapping it loses the Unmount SD Card options for the removable media in settings>storage. The same with Directory Bind. They both do the trick but not quite the way I would have wanted it to do so.
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Then we cant do anything for that matter for now since there are no pit files available to repartition the phone.
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I was just thinking if there was a way of making a new directory on the /mnt path called 'storage' or something, we could have possibly modified vold.stab. So change where it says /sdcard to /storage and /sdcard/external_sd to /sdcard. I'm not sure if that would work but again, I don't think that another new directory can be created in /mnt without a .pit file.
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I was just thinking if there was a way of making a new directory on the /mnt path called 'storage' or something, we could have possibly modified vold.stab. So change where it says /sdcard to /storage and /sdcard/external_sd to /sdcard. I'm not sure if that would work but again, I don't think that another new directory can be created in /mnt without a .pit file.
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actually there are 3 mount points inside the vold.fstab file. 1) /mnt/sdcard 2)/mnt/external_sd 3)/mnt/usbstorage (i think, i forgot..)
the third is supposed to be used for USB OTG function but for now it remains undefined. I do not know anything about modifying this file so I guess I'll leave it to the experts, ask around and see what turns up.
I just checked the vold.fstab and I think the mount point is mnt/sdcard/external_sd and not mnt/external_sd if I am interpreting the data correctly.
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I just checked the vold.fstab and I think the mount point is mnt/sdcard/external_sd and not mnt/external_sd if I am interpreting the data correctly.
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Yeah youre right.. I guess working on my jelly bean theme made my brain forgetful.
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