[FIX] Smoothness on RUU 2.36.405.8 and Saga based ROMs - Desire HD Android Development

Some people have been asking me why my Inspire ROM based on RUU 2.36.405.8 feels smoother than other ROMs using this base (when scrolling through home screens in particular). I again thought I should share with the community to improve all Desire HD ROMs.
It's as simple as dropping in a few libs from the 2.31 leak (libsurfaceflinger.so, libsurfaceflinger_client.so, and libpagemap.so to be exact). Hopefully HTC takes notice of both this and the wifi issue and fixes them both in future builds.
This will help both RUU 2.36.405.8 and Saga based ROMs.
Just flash through Clockwork Recovery.
It may seem simple, but it actually took me a long time to narrow down which exact files are required to fix the issue, so if you appreciate my work, donations of any amount are very much appreciated.

gtg465x said:
Some people have been asking me why my Inspire ROM based on RUU 2.36.405.8 feels smoother than other ROMs using this base. I again thought I should share with the community to improve all Desire HD ROMs.
It's as simple as dropping in a few libs from the 2.31 leak (libsurfaceflinger.so, libsurfaceflinger_client.so, and libpagemap.so to be exact). Hopefully HTC takes notice of both this and the wifi issue and fixes them both in future builds.
This will help both RUU 2.36.405.8 and Saga based ROMs.
Just flash through Clockwork Recovery.
It may seem simple, but it actually took me a long time to narrow down which exact files are required to fix the issue, so if you appreciate my work, donations of any amount are very much appreciated.
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nice one mate

nice ... thanks for this.

capy 6.02 is back on track if not can u update your thread title to 6.01 ;0 please

AAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I have this ****ING lag !
My only solutino was to change the skin !
I test it !!!
edit : tested : works fine !!!!!

nice. thanks mate

my phones weather app started fc'ing after i flashed 6.0.2. up to then i only had the known sunday bug. after restoring to 6.0.1 fc'ing is no longer a problem. sunday bug persists.
also tried mdj's kernel v8. everything seemed fine at first. only problem was gps, wich couldn't find any satelites. now i'm on 6.0.1 with stock kernel and i just love all the working stuff. i trust, the few not working things can and will be fixed.
thanks for your work

RaSand said:
my phones weather app started fc'ing after i flashed 6.0.2. up to then i only had the known sunday bug. after restoring to 6.0.1 fc'ing is no longer a problem. sunday bug persists.
also tried mdj's kernel v8. everything seemed fine at first. only problem was gps, wich couldn't find any satelites.
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Did you mean to post this in the RCMix thread?
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sure did. sorry.

gtg465x said:
It may seem simple, but it actually took me a long time to narrow down which exact files are required to fix the issue, so if you appreciate my work, donations of any amount are very much appreciated.
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Bro, thank God for people like you! & no it's not simple to diagnose something, I know that.
Thank you, my DHD is flying again.

Works great many thanks!! (RCmix 6.0.0.2)
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Runs like a hot knife thru butter. Thank you (on MDJ's Vivo 1.9)

Did anyone test this on ARH 5.1.1?

Hello Noob question I donwload the file but how to install it from Clockwork I Have ROm Manager and Running Leedroid 3.0.1, Some can Help me please?
Thanks

Does this also work with the 2.36 stock rom ???
Thanks

****head said:
Did anyone test this on ARH 5.1.1?
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Same question here ^^
Does this affect Battery life? or just Performance bonus without any contra?

lilil said:
Does this also work with the 2.36 stock rom ???
Thanks
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Yes
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Darkseth said:
Same question here ^^
Does this affect Battery life? or just Performance bonus without any contra?
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It will not affect battery life.
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It's funny, I mentioned this scrolling lag quite a few times and people said things like "I have zero lag, the ROM is flying!" and stuff like that. I thought the lag was just targeting me haha. Nice to know I'm not alone .
Thanks for the fix man, I really appreciate it. I was about to give up on the laggyness on the new ROM's until I tried this out. It works like a charm and makes them as fast, or faster than the S ports.

****head said:
Did anyone test this on ARH 5.1.1?
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Just Flashed it over 5.1.1
Booted without Problems. Seems to be smoother, but idk if thats a Placebo^^

Related

[ROM]QuantumROM_v0.1 [GOOGLE-AOSP | SU | DEODEXED]

QUANTUM ROM
This is my first ever rom, so be gentle
This ROM is from GOOGLE sources, so it isn't based on cyanogen or sense. The kernel is cyanogen's stock, and soon I will use vork's kernel.
I made this rom specifically to use the Darkedge theme, it works great!!!
I AM LOOKING FOR IDEAS, ANY REQUESTS WILL BE LOOKED INTO!!!
PRE-ROM:
You need to be rooted
I am not responsible for any bricked phones, loss of data etc
Features of My ROM:
GOOGLE source
Fast
Stable
DeOdexed
ZipAligned
Rooted
Busybox
THEMES LIKE DARKEDGE WORK WITHOUT HASSLE!!!
Install
Put rom on SD card
Flash rom AND apps
Enjoy
Download
ROM - http://www.multiupload.com/ON4DHIU1YA
Gapps - gapps-hdpi-20100926-signed.zip
Credits
Kali- General desire work and for showing me the Device Vendor
Cyanogen- For his great work on android and his great kernel
ChainsDD- For his superuser app
Many More!
ChangeLOG:
v0.1
initial release
Added su
Deodexed etc
one more for me
Well done on your first rom, going to have a look now.
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lazyeejay said:
Well done on your first rom, going to have a look now.
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Don't expect much, literally built google sources, and added root...
THAT'S WHY I NEED PEOPLE TO TELL ME WHAT THEY WANT IN THE ROM
(hint)
We can use the Droid darkedge themes? SAVIOUR!
Which files from the darkedge theme do we need? FRG22?
Sent from my HTC Desire
No worries, just saying thanks for making the effort and posting here. Gotta start somewhere I'm sure you will get constructive feedback.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Does everything work?
Wifi, Bluetooth, mobile internet?
Sorry for all the questions, but this seems to good.
simonthor said:
Does everything work?
Wifi, Bluetooth, mobile internet?
Sorry for all the questions, but this seems to good.
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Yeah, not sure if 720p has been enable in the camera app though, Ill work on that and more, tomorrow
crowstar said:
Yeah, not sure if 720p has been enable in the camera app though, Ill work on that and more, tomorrow
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Cool.
Will try and download.
GANJDROID said:
We can use the Droid darkedge themes? SAVIOUR!
Which files from the darkedge theme do we need? FRG22?
Sent from my HTC Desire
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FRG22D works fine, haven't tried apps yet.
Congratulations
Hi Crowstar,
Congratulations on your new rom.
I wish you success.
Just wanted to know how good is the battery life?
Thanks again... downloading now.
Will let you the results.
gautam.malik said:
Hi Crowstar,
Congratulations on your new rom.
I wish you success.
Just wanted to know how good is the battery life?
Thanks again... downloading now.
Will let you the results.
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Um... hard to tell, but no massive drain issues.
Hey rom looks great, downloading the theme now. However noticed I get FC when I try to use the video option on the camera app, also there are no APN's.
Tried theme out its awesome. Slight bug on the notification bar flickering, also app drawer is a bit laggy. But I'm sure these problems will be resolved in time. Good Work
ukmaddnes1 said:
Hey rom looks great, downloading the theme now. However noticed I get FC when I try to use the video option on the camera app, also there are no APN's.
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Those are some annoying problems.
I hope you will fix them Crow
simonthor said:
Those are some annoying problems.
I hope you will fix them Crow
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Tomorrow
10char
Sugestion: A2SD+
Irrelevant comment
Great start to devving Crow
Only issues so far are no a2sd+and no APN list
Been waiting to use Darkedge for ages so these are worthy sacrifices for now. Especially love the lockscreen
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[Q] What ROM should I choose?

Hi, I know there's no such thing as the "best" ROM, it depends entirely on taste and on what you're expecting. So, I'm searching for a 2.3.4, stable, as fast as possible ROM with no particular tweaks if not for increasing speed and memory...should I simply go with a deodexed stock or is there something better speedwise? Thank you in advance!
Ricpu said:
Hi, I know there's no such thing as the "best" ROM, it depends entirely on taste and on what you're expecting. So, I'm searching for a 2.3.4, stable, as fast as possible ROM with no particular tweaks if not for increasing speed and memory...should I simply go with a deodexed stock or is there something better speedwise? Thank you in advance!
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I would also like to get this tip...Speed increase and more available memory, maybe some tweaks in the notification bar, but besides that I would like to keep my phone pretty much in stock form.
If speed tweaks are all you want with very high stability, check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065392
His ROM (When he reposts it) is very stable and very fast.
Install that with James Bond or Netarchy kernel and you'll have a very fast/stable setup.
Ok, great, thanks!
aerobahn said:
If speed tweaks are all you want with very high stability, check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065392
His ROM (When he reposts it) is very stable and very fast.
Install that with James Bond or Netarchy kernel and you'll have a very fast/stable setup.
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Thanks for the tip! That ROM seems to be exactly what I want.
Can I add shortcuts or power controls to the pull down notification bar with a separate app, or should they be cooked to the ROM? If I can could somebody point me to the right directionwhere I could find this kind of separate app? Thanks!
If you want something a little more customized, but still pretty stock, you could try the infin1ty ROM. I've been using it for a while now, it is very quick and very stable. The dev is also very involved and posts regular updates about new features and bug reports.
Linky
I would suggest you to use SupeASOP v8.0.
I find that rom is the best after i tried different roms.
Cm7 is good but not to my expectation.
I would recommend you to try SupeASOP v8.0 with kernel of Netarchy Nexus - 1.3.0.12-cfs-2.3.4-universal (Universal for non-stock 2.3.4 roms).
Link to SupeASOP ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007267
Link to Netarchy Nexus Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936219
I flashed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060192
Rooted it by flashing su (before rebooting):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828
And, after first reboot I flashed Netarchy kernel (CFS 2.3.4 stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936219
BLAZING fast...much faster (at least in my everyday use) than anything else I've tried...battery life also seems really good...thank you guys!
Why do you prefer this rom?
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window7 said:
I would suggest you to use SupeASOP v8.0.
I find that rom is the best after i tried different roms.
Cm7 is good but not to my expectation.
I would recommend you to try SupeASOP v8.0 with kernel of Netarchy Nexus - 1.3.0.12-cfs-2.3.4-universal (Universal for non-stock 2.3.4 roms).
Link to SupeASOP ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007267
Link to Netarchy Nexus Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936219
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Sorry, I mean SupeASOP
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Ok, this rom is working great, but I get a force close when I try to make a video chat on talk...audio chat is fine...I saw many users had this problem on nexus s but I haven't understood if it's a rom related problem or a general problem with 2.3.4 on this phone...any suggestions?
Ricpu said:
Ok, this rom is working great, but I get a force close when I try to make a video chat on talk...audio chat is fine...I saw many users had this problem on nexus s but I haven't understood if it's a rom related problem or a general problem with 2.3.4 on this phone...any suggestions?
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I don't know much about your ROM, but there was/is an issue where you have to have your volume all the way down before you start a video chat on talk. Some ROMs have it fixed, some don't. Also, some ROMs have an issue where only the back camera works with video chat.
I know most devs are working on incorporating the fix for talk into their ROMs. If it is a deal breaker for you, take a look around at different ROMs, we are very fortunate to have many active and talented devs working on various ROMs.
Sent from my infin1ty rom Nexus S.
Ok, thank you!

Just rooted to Leedroid... phone call sound quality is bad

If I make a phone call or receive one, the quality is very poor, stock was amazing. Is there a fix for this? What about gingerbread... is it better?
Sorry, btw it's leedroid 3.0.3
I'm trying to google the hell out of this solution but to no avail. if anyone has a clue or know's, could you please help me out. thanks
Isn't Leedroid ROM a gingerbread ROM?
Remember I'm a newbie, but its leedroid.
rblockmon said:
Remember I'm a newbie, but its leedroid.
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I understand, but you asked if gingerbread is better.
There are many versions of gingerbread and one of them is leedroid ROM.
Try a different ROM that has GB in the title of the thread in the DEVs section.
If not flash the ruu for stock that gives u stock sense and 2.2.1 yet rooted. So you can flash another rom at anytime
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rblockmon said:
If I make a phone call or receive one, the quality is very poor, stock was amazing. Is there a fix for this? What about gingerbread... is it better?
Sorry, btw it's leedroid 3.0.3
I'm trying to google the hell out of this solution but to no avail. if anyone has a clue or know's, could you please help me out. thanks
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Flash This
Should Fix this issue
Keep the audio fix on your SD Card. I've been using the same CM7 desire to inspire audio fix for all the euro DHD ROMs and haven't had any issues, all great results actually. currently running TB Fusion 0.4 with LeeDroid kernel 3.0.4 no issues.
Best of luck, cheers!
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Rooted with attn1's hack kit
Another ROM every other day!
ajdrausal said:
Flash This
Should Fix this issue
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Well I rooted to revolution, and did'nt like the layout... so I went back to leedroid and use that patch. Thanks man, everything is great. Just trying to get the gps to get stronger signal.
rblockmon said:
Well I rooted to revolution, and did'nt like the layout... so I went back to leedroid and use that patch. Thanks man, everything is great. Just trying to get the gps to get stronger signal.
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Try AngelDeath's GPS fixation, if you're having GPS issues.

Custom roms worry

I've S offed and rooted. I'm a bit skeptical of installing a rom. My concerns are of battery life, stability, and receiving calls. Is there any rom out there for the desire s now that is atleast 95% completed with a few bugs?
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For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
nbhadusia said:
For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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ditto to the above comment, would have said the same but was beaten to it...
nbhadusia said:
For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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I'm waiting for an AOSP rom (CM 8hopefully), because that's my preference, but for a sense rom LBC is the best I've used.
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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sayeed91 said:
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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Look in the development forum, titles LBC mod, see link in my signature, it is suggested that you flash a new radio, but, all instructions are provided within the first post and on the supporting website
You shouldn't really start flashing until you feel reasonably comfortable with the process, so I'd suggest that you spend a day or two day reading the entire thread and the site before you do.
You can then ask any questions regarding anything you are unsure or are un clear about in the rom thread
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You can try virtuous unity too
Try virtuous unity 1.29.0, its pretty stable too, running sense 3.0.
regards,
monk
sayeed91 said:
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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DO NOT FLASH radio's unless you really need to, we know a lot about the Nand and can recover from almost any error there, but the nvram, radio etc is a different story. A bad radio flash, could mean you end up with a very expensive calculator!
The stock HTC European Baseband (radio) is: 20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M. I did not need to change mine when I flashed LBC. Different carriers will have different radio's.
You can flash a Kernel any time after you flash your rom, otherwise the rom flash will simply overwrite your kernel flash. Pick the wrong kernel and it can cause you a lot of problems, although these should be easily recoverable. The only way to learn that, is experience.

Want to get back to an official ROM

Hey,
i still can't get GPS Navigation for my Desire with Desire S Android 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROM from proxuser. I like the ROM, definetly.. but i need the navigation. So i decided to go back to an official release or ROM. But i don't know which is the best for me.. i found:
32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08
and
RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
By the way, i'm from germany..
in other words, i would like to have the latest official version of android and i hope that gps will work and the update to sense 3.0 is available for me.
if you can help me, many thanks for that!
meinFreund said:
Hey,
i still can't get GPS Navigation for my Desire with Desire S Android 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROM from proxuser. I like the ROM, definetly.. but i need the navigation. So i decided to go back to an official release or ROM. But i don't know which is the best for me.. i found:
32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08
and
RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
By the way, i'm from germany..
in other words, i would like to have the latest official version of android and i hope that gps will work and the update to sense 3.0 is available for me.
if you can help me, many thanks for that!
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the RUU u specified is the 1 to install if you want the sense 3 update and everything 100% stock
Ok,
just to make this safe
you mean RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
Do I also have to flash the Radio ? And what is AU ?
Do I flash the ROM same as costum roms?
meinFreund said:
Ok,
just to make this safe
you mean RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
Do I also have to flash the Radio ? And what is AU ?
Do I flash the ROM same as costum roms?
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yes that is the RUU to flash.
but before you do that u need to be sure you have bootloader ENG HBOOT-0.98.2000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
then you run the RUU.exe file on your pc and follow the on screen instructions.
this will return you completely to stock
Hi meinfreund,
What are the problems you are having with your navigation? I've been on VoidU and now MIUI and got my navigation running pretty well. Actually MIUI seems to be incredible with it's assisted GPS implemented settings.
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I also had gps problems on certain 2.3.5 roms. Couldn't get the gps icon to even appear in the notification bar. No error messages when turning gps on though. Sound like your problems?
No need to go back to stock. Try Coredroid or CM7. I can confirm both work with gps. Also perhaps try LeeDrOid. Very close to stock look and feel but with some nice tweaks. Gps also working there too.
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wnp_79 said:
I also had gps problems on certain 2.3.5 roms. Couldn't get the gps icon to even appear in the notification bar. No error messages when turning gps on though. Sound like your problems?
No need to go back to stock. Try Coredroid or CM7. I can confirm both work with gps. Also perhaps try LeeDrOid. Very close to stock look and feel but with some nice tweaks. Gps also working there too.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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the icon appears and i got gps far outside the city, but when i grabbed it the signal was lost. Had to put it in front of the car to get the signal, very sensitive. I resetted gps data many times but that didn't change anything.
Before i started flashing ROMs, it worked pretty fine, in the cities too.
Actually I think that all the ROMs that I tried are not faster or better than the Stock I had before. So i'm a bit confused about what doing next?!
LeedrOid and Coredroid are from August. Aren't they a bit outdated?
Does an update of the Base and Kernel might has positive effects to the gps?
Because ther is an update for Desire S Official Sense 3.0 - [GRJ90] [2.3.5] OTA 2.10.401.4
@mimirom:
I tried MIUI too, same problem here
meinFreund said:
Does an update of the Base and Kernel might has positive effects to the gps?
D
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For the signal reception ou have to try another radio.img
If you want navigation working why dont you use another stable ROMs like Virtuous Unity, VoidU1.1a etc. etc..
Reverting back to stock is something unusual after rooting. There are lot of candidates , Just pick one and hit the base..Keep Hitting
blindndumb said:
If you want navigation working why dont you use another stable ROMs like Virtuous Unity, VoidU1.1a etc. etc..
Reverting back to stock is something unusual after rooting. There are lot of candidates , Just pick one and hit the base..Keep Hitting
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I tried several Roms, always the same probs with gps.. thats the reason why i consider flashing back to stock.. i'd like to stay in costoum, but without Navigation i cant use it.
Eclipse_Droid said:
yes that is the RUU to flash.
but before you do that u need to be sure you have bootloader ENG HBOOT-0.98.2000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
then you run the RUU.exe file on your pc and follow the on screen instructions.
this will return you completely to stock
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thanx a lot
meinFreund said:
Hey,
i still can't get GPS Navigation for my Desire with Desire S Android 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROM from proxuser.
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Sry for the dump question but is it now a desire or desire s? If it is an desire your lucky that the only problem you got is GPS
Swyped from my Desire S
Tectas said:
Sry for the dump question but is it now a desire or desire s? If it is an desire your lucky that the only problem you got is GPS
Swyped from my Desire S
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Yo, it is an desire S
Read that Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 will be released soon, can anyone say how long it usually takes to get a release of a new version such as ICS 4?
Would like to test that as well
Hey,
I now flashed the Cyanogenmod 7.1 and have big trouble with that.
GPS does not work as well as with the other ROMS (GPS fix can't even "fix")
But there are some more difficulties.. i cant call or get called by someone, the Homebutton does not work (after flash, it worked.. but after shutdown it doesn't anymore)
Apart from these problems, this ROM is very fast and nice looking!
Does one of you have an idea how long it takes until a shipped ROM of ICS is available when its released?
Hi I have also cm7.1 since stable release and not having your problems. Just csipsimple has some isues. Did you do wipe cache and data? Did you restore via titanium? I restored BT pairings and had to begin since clean system, cause BT didn't work correctly. I would give a try to flash radio.
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meinFreund said:
Hey,
I now flashed the Cyanogenmod 7.1 and have big trouble with that.
GPS does not work as well as with the other ROMS (GPS fix can't even "fix")
But there are some more difficulties.. i cant call or get called by someone, the Homebutton does not work (after flash, it worked.. but after shutdown it doesn't anymore)
Apart from these problems, this ROM is very fast and nice looking!
Does one of you have an idea how long it takes until a shipped ROM of ICS is available when its released?
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in that case you should consider about the bad weather that can affect GPS receiver.
so you can try later whenever the weather becomes better?

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