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xda 2 in the loo !!!!! help

Hi all, before you say it, I know, should ahve been more carefull.
Ok, I was talking to a friend whilst peeing ( i know them enough )
The xda2 slipped from under my chin into the loo bowl, I've got it drying out gently on a radiator with a towl inbetween so as not to get to hot.
What do you think the chances areof a recovery ??
P.S i've removed the cover and battery to aid the drying out :?
TIA

i would just allow it to dry for as long as it takes... do not attempt to power it up before then as you might short something out. you dropped it in pee? ewww!

outz said:
i would just allow it to dry for as long as it takes... do not attempt to power it up before then as you might short something out. you dropped it in pee? ewww!
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Thanks and yeah, i'm the one who's gotta live with it ...lol

if you have warranty, bring it back claiming the device smells awfully!!
no kidding: Let it all dry BEFORE you power anything up!
BTW: because the device has a backup-battery the device might allready be harmed.

TThe ting may well work if you give it long enough to dry out; If it is out of warranty you will be better off to dismantle it and dry the pieces out individually, they will dry out quicker that way.
However; was the water the unit got dupped in clean?? (Pee contains uric acid, which is acidic as the name suggests) if not you are advised to gently clean the cct boards before the copper tracks and solder points start to corrode. The best way I have found of doing this is to use a mild soapy water with a very soft toothbrush (use a neutral soap like dove)
Than make sire all the bits are perfectly dry, i would give them a couple of days if it is in kit form. Put it together and cross your fingers.
Note: the very small surface mounted ic's these days have a tiny airgap behind them, this is very very good at holding water in because of it's small size. Try wrapping each individual piece in a tea towel and whirling it round a couple of times to drive out the excess water...

and use some spray that is meant for circuitry boards or electronic equipment in general. That stuff drives the water right out !

lol my too got wet.
what happened to my xda was.
(well it din't slip in the loo)
actually i kept in on my bed and wen't to pee after coming out i was shocked to see what was happening right before my eye's.
my son he's 2 1/2 years old.
was having a bottle of water in his hand and before i could do anything he just emptyed it on the xda
first thing i did was removed the battery and open'd the device and ran and got hair drier use'd it on the device for fifteen minute's on low blow.
waited for 45 minutes with fingers crossed and guess what it worked after a few attempts of using the power switch.
lucky me lol.

there wa a nice walkthrough about opening your xdaII :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8525
but the picture have disappeared. I just noticed :-(
if anyone still has them could he repost?

Well thanks for the hints, tips and stories, my xda is still under warrenty and i have insurance that covers for accidents, so if worst comes to worst i should get a replacement.
Thanks again

I dropped my jabra in the loo that was full (say no more) and had to wash it in clean water - let it dry out and it still works (this was about 8 months ago and it's still going strong)

Pee contains uric acid, which is acidic as the name suggests)
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And the moral of the story is drink 20lt of water a day to make your pee less acidic.

was having a bottle of water in his hand and before i could do anything he just emptyed it on the XDA
first thing i did was removed the battery and open'd the device and ran and got hair drier use'd it on the device for fifteen minute's on low blow.
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The first thing you should have done was to send him to the naughty step!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

OK, I triedputting the battery in this morning after a night drying out, all i get is the blue light ( wireless ) and bothe the phonelights, red and green at the same time, nothing else works, power, soft reset, hard reset, nothing
I have the unit insured for accidental and theft / loss, will Ibe able to go straight to the o2 shop or will i have to go through a third party ???
TIA
EDIT: i've seen a ' how to ' guide for stripping down the xda2 somewhere, can't find it at the mo, could someone post the link for me please

HELP!!! Drowned my Sensation in seawater!!!

I accidentally dropped my brand new sensation in seawater for a couple of seconds. I took it out, turned off, took out the battery, SIM card and memory card, lightly rinsed the phone with fresh water (didn't dip it into, just washed off the salty water off the phone) and now I'm waiting for it to dry completely, because I can see still some water trapped underneath the touchscreen.
The service is still three days away until monday, but i was just thinking if somebody knows of what else could I do before I try to send it for repair. I was thinking of trying to turn it on once it completely dries off, or it is not such a good idea?

This wil help you... i think
The dry rice trick

Tried that also. I buried it in rice immediately, it has been so since yesterday when this happened, but still has some water trapped underneath the touchscreen.
I fear the damage from salty water is much worse than normal water.

Sorry to say but you are screwed. There is no way this phone will work reliably ever again..

The rice trick has never worked in my experience,dont turn it on,get some DE-IONISED water,flush it with that it wont leave residue like normal water will,let it dry in the airing cupboard for a few days then turn it on

Can I wash it with distilled water? Would that be helpful?
Is there a step-by-step instruction on how to dissasemble a Sensation and the tools required? I found one on Youtube, but it wasn't very helpful...

IannEefje said:
This wil help you... i think
The dry rice trick
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I did not know this, it seems the awesome "Dry Kit".
I will buy it one, and if a day i need it, i will try it.
Link : Dry-All for Smartphones

Distilled water is different to de-ionised water,i used de-ionised on a sunk G1 which got into a bootloop from the incident after the washing with de-ionised water it worked and still does

you need to use the de-ionised water to remove the salt water to stop it from corroding heavily.

I dropped a regular cell phone in a glass of lemonade 10 years ago and here's what I did"
- get it out quickly take parts out and sling it around to get liquid out asap
- got home and put a pot of water on the stove
- when water was good and warm, vigorously shook it in the water for 10 seconds
- shook phone as dry as possible
- let dry, heat oven slightly then turn off and put phone in to speed up drying
- once dry, reassemble
- phone worked perfectly afterwards
not saying I would do this with a Sensation....just sayin

Water Damaged Phone

I dropped my phone into the ocean about a week ago. It's been in rice since then. I just took it out and it turns on and shows my home screen and gets data and is receiving texts and stuff, however neither the touch screen nor the four android buttons work. I searched and people were suggesting soaking the phone in alcohol for this. Is your any chance that would fix my problem? Maybe it could be as simple as replacing my phone's screen? Thanks for any help.

What I would do is take the phone apart (remove the backcover, battery and unscrew the screws) locate the digitizer flex cable and blow dry it. There may be water left in the component.
Refer this this video on the disasembly.

Probably a bit late but you want to clean it with de-ionized water or Isopropyl alcohol. To be honest i would have put it in a bowl of either of those instead of rice as soon as i got home. I've personally found the rice trick to be a myth,works just the same as leaving it out to dry. Sea water contains high amounts of salt and drying it will just make the salt crystalise.You need to "Wash" the salt out and the 2 ive suggested wont leave residue on the PCB (info from my mum who is an electronics teacher)

Success repairing water damaged S3

I thought I would make a quick post to provide some encouragement for those who may water damaged phones. Took mine swimming the other day. Phone fell out of my pocket and drifted down to the deepest end of the pool 8+'. Fortunately I discovered the phone before I got out of the pool.
I ran down to the hardware store and bought a bag of powder dehydration powder used for drawing humidity out of the air. I combined this powder with a bag of white rice in an airtight container (may seem like overkill but this worked much better then the typical prescribed method).
Any how, I removed the battery, took the screws out of the inner housing assembly popped the assembly without completely disassembling. I then wrapped the phone in a couple of coffee filters to prevent any of the powder from entering the phone.
I put the filter wrapped phone in the powder over night, sealed the container and left overnight. When I awoke I had a completely dry phone.
When I attempted to reboot the phone, the phone booted, but the touch screen didn't work.
After watching a video on Youtube (disassembly guide) I completely disassembled the phone. Working with 99% Iso alcohol and some small brushes, I completely cleaned the interior of the phone assembly including the main board, all connectors (paying very close attention to the pin assemblies). I found quite a bit of white corrosion inside the pin assemblies for the connectors and on much of the components. I assume this was residual chlorine from the pool water. After thoroughly cleaning all components, board etc. I carefully reassembled the phone per the instructions in the video.
Once the phone was buttoned up and recharged, I rebooted the phone. The phone booted right up. Everything worked perfectly, with the exception of the camera (wouldn't focus right). I disassembled the in housing again and took the camera out again. After inspecting, I realized I hadn't cleaned the interior of the plastic cover that protects the camera. After booting again, camera worked perfectly.
I would highly encourage anyone who mistakenly immerses their phone in water to at minimum use the powder and rice mixture w/partial disassembly. This worked exceptionally well compared to simply removing the battery and placing in rice.
If your patient and willing to follow directions, I found the thorough disassembly and cleaning process to be quite informative and rewarding, and I got a working phone out of the deal.
Don't recommend getting your phone wet, but if you do, take the initiative and try this yourself. Feel free to msg me if you have any questions

Good to hear that home solutions is still a viable way to fix electronic problems.

How long was it in the water for? I would have figured there was no way that phone would come back to life. Good to know.

Makes no difference if it was 10 seconds or 10 minutes. It doesn't get "wetter" being in longer.
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mine got wet 9 months ago and the op's steps that they took were similar to what I did and I can confirm that you can save your phone. My phone even got plugged in to the charger before i realized it was wet. Thanks op for posting this to help others out.

Hall, that cant be entirely true. Granted, either way is bad, but you can have more corrosion build up if it sat longer. Will 10 minutes do that much corrosion? still doubtful, but still can effect the phone differently. Also, depending on the case, it could take a little longer to access deeper in to the phone.
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How long was it in the water for? I would have figured there was no way that phone would come back to life. Good to know.
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Sorry for the late reply. Phone was about 9' deep for about 10 minutes. It was completely water logged. Funny thing was screen was still operational when I pulled from the water. I immediately pulled battery to prevent shorting.
I tend to think the amount of corrosion is relevant to the depth of water invasion and the amount of chemical or other component in the water. Mine was full of white corrosion. Under a magnifying glass I could see it everywhere. Any place i found it, I scrubbed with a fine brush and alcohol, specifically around the pins in the connectors. Be careful not to bend any though.
As far as components, they seem to be very well sealed. Nothing got into the camera, gyro etc. Speaker and phone jack both needed quite a bit of work, but eventually came clean.
Wouldn't suggest opening a phone for no reason, but it is actually quite interesting to see how small and well designed the components are, as well as to see how and where they are installed, gives one a much better understanding of how these things work.
Should I ever drop a phone in water again, I will certainly feel much more confident about my ability to revive it. Not good for the phone but certainly not a death certificate either. With a thorough cleaning your phone should work just fine again.

Edit: so I read the OP. Excellent job, with the exception of the rice. Leave it out next time. It's time to end the rice myth!
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For the love of God people, stop putting your wet phones in rice. I work at a repair shop and have worked on more water damaged phones than I can remember. Also, I come from a fobby Asian family and have carried(20+ lb bags)/washed/steamed/eaten a lot of rice.
First, rice doesn't just absorb moisture. If it's submerged in it, it will. It doesn't just pull it out of the air.
Second, when you put something wet in a container, or anywhere without good airflow it takes significantly longer for the water to evaporate. Take some wet clothes and put them in a bag. Even an open bag. See how long it takes compared to something like line drying.
Half the time someone leaves their phone in a rice filled container, the phone still has water in it 3-7 days later. The other half the water is gone, but it has accelerated damage from corrosion/rust.
Best thing to do with a water damaged android phone: take out the battery. Put it anywhere with a comfortable ambient temp and airflow, leaving the battery cover off. Leave it as long as you feel comfortable. Install new battery and back up your stuff.
At this point, you may need to clean everything with rubbing alcohol. If you don't feel comfortable doing that yourself, bring it to someone.
Sorry to rant but I'm just so sick of opening up wet phones and having people tell me "but I read it on the internet!"
Spread the word.

rockingondrums said:
Sorry to rant but I'm just so sick of opening up wet phones and having people tell me "but I read it on the internet!"
Spread the word.
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Everything on the internet is true though. Which is why I will now let everyone know. You all owe me money. Depending on your yearly net income.
20k and below. $10
50 - 70k $20
70 - 90k $50
90k and up $100.
You may pay me via PayPal.
This is on the internet. This is true. Good day!
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Dropped S6 in water.

Yep. My daughter was in a rush to get into the pool and old dad forgot to take phone out of my pocket.
This happened a few weeks ago. I kept it in a bag of rice for 3 days and no luck.
I've since got another new S6 but was wondering if there's anything I can do in hopes of reviving it.
Thanks

Its a gonner.
The rice trick is a lie, its just as stupid to me as when batteries are dead to put them in your armpit to "recharge them" for that last little bit of juice.
The truth is, if you have a removable battery, the first thing you do is PULL that battery and LEAVE it out, which you and I dont. But when theres juice flowimg to the board when water hits it, it super cools very hot and tiny solder points on a board which causes fractures and most of the time complete breaks. Some people get lucky and only suffer from fractured joints from being able to pull the battery out and allowing joints to cool quickly. But with a sealed battery you are basically doomed from the time it hits the water OR if your lucky enough and it just got splashed or dunked for a second it didnt allow enough time to pull in water and your usually safe.
To those people who couldnt fire up their phone it is because water was shorting their phone, and once the water was evaporated if the joints didnt get damaged the phome fores up again. They say its the rice, I say its physics.
The roce thing is a joke, and it "only works" cause YOU the individual who thought the phone was thirsty didnt get it wet enough
;:EXAMPLE< THIS WILL DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER ONLY CONTINUE KNOWING YOUR COMPUTER WILL NO LONGER RUN AGAIN, I SUGGEST ALL PRECAUTIONS WHEN WORKING WITH ELECTRICITY AND AM NOT LIABLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO YOU OR YOUR PROPERTY.>
I have PROOF of this theory if you thing im lying. Grab and old DESKTOP with an easily removable motherboard and remove it. I HAD ONE FROM 1998 THAT HAD WINDOWS 2000 ON IT. Again make sure its NOT been on, preferable one that has sat in your closet for years. Pull the motherboard and ram and cpu, places where water can get lodged, and soak the motherboard for 10 minutes. Dry it off as much as you can and bake it in the sun for a day, two just to be safe.. That night plug everything back in and it will fire up. It more than likely will run just fine, unless you didnt let it get hot enough to evaporate the water while in the sun. In the same test let the computer run for about 20 minutes, enough time to get everything nice and warm.
Then quickly turn the pc ocr and UNPLUG it and LIGHTLY with a cup of cool water slowly drizzle it on the motherboard and you should start to hear cracking noises. Again the next dry pull it out and you will notice cracks in solder joints. And youll nitce that it never works again.
Maybe ill make a youtube video as I have another old pc.
The point it hot joints dont like cold water. So its all up to how fast water got in if any, most of the time if your phone is sealed properly its just outside on the screen and casing.

Even if it did revive, it's days would be numbered anyway. You could eBay it for water damage/parts only and probably recoup a couple hundred bucks.
Edit: My opinion on the rice is that it only helps dry out the phone slightly faster if left completely sealed airtight and buried for like a week. If there's going to be damage, it has already been done as was stated above.

See...rice works great with humidity or direct contact with water, my problem with rice on a phone is it is not in direct contact with water. NOW if you said you coverd the phone in rice in a SEALED container and threw that out in the sun? Yes I could understand the rice absorbing water faster
Now i am no genuis...ive just done a lotttt of research in my time. And I do a lot...of testing hahaha

I dropped mine in the sink under running water and it shorted out. Put it in rice for 5 days and it started working eventually. Still working flawless to this day. So rice is not totally a lie unless that was just a coincidence. All I know is that my phone is still working after water ****ed it up
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GoBears said:
Even if it did revive, it's days would be numbered anyway. You could eBay it for water damage/parts only and probably recoup a couple hundred bucks.
Edit: My opinion on the rice is that it only helps dry out the phone slightly faster if left completely sealed airtight and buried for like a week. If there's going to be damage, it has already been done as was stated above.
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Is there any way they could pull any of my info off there of I sold it on ebay?

Gytole said:
See...rice works great with humidity or direct contact with water, my problem with rice on a phone is it is not in direct contact with water. NOW if you said you coverd the phone in rice in a SEALED container and threw that out in the sun? Yes I could understand the rice absorbing water faster
Now i am no genuis...ive just done a lotttt of research in my time. And I do a lot...of testing hahaha
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I'm glad you clarified your earlier post. In certain cases, the rice trick does work. It does absorb humidity and draw wetness to itself. However, like you stated, it usually cannot magically pull moisture out of trapped jointed components.

hank3fan said:
Is there any way they could pull any of my info off there of I sold it on ebay?
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I'm sure if they really wanted to, they could. I doubt anyone would go through trouble. Have you tried hooking it to a computer lately and see if there's a response?