[Q] g2x or sg2? - T-Mobile LG G2x

I currently have a G2x and i do like it a lot. mine is a little buggy with freezing and having to pop the battery out, which i'm reading is a problem with some, so i will be exchanging mine tomorrow. But really what i"m curious about is whether i should exchange it for a new one, or return it and wait got the SG2.
My main reason for thinking about returning it is the 1gig of ram to this ones 512. I'm thinking longevity. I'm going from a G1 so anything will be much better. but I wanna avoid the problem i had with my G1 which was, it was AWESOME for like the forst 9 months to a year, but then after a few updates and more intense apps, it pretty much sucked the big one.
From what i"ve read in reviews and benchmarks, the SG2 seems to have the edge in general everyday use, but when it comes to games and graphics, the G2x seems to have the edge. games are a concern simply because i want a phone that cam play games. i was pissed when i tried to play angry birds on my G1 and couldn't.
I rooted my phone to get rid of some of the bloat, but my free resources are usually only about averaging 150mb free ram. And thats a week after launch, who knows from a year from now is what i'm thinking.
In short... stick with G2x, or wait for Sg2?
Any and all thoughts/opinions/ and facts are welcome.

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Torn: G2x Vs Sensation (Another one)

I know another one of these threads but im super torn between the two. I've read through the forums and done my research on both even though the sensation is new and the locked boot loader we don't know its true potential yet
I know the issues with the g2x ie. screen bleed, battery drain, overheating and random freezes. The sensation with the bad angle and high contrast washed out screen, the death grip and some minor touchscreen issues.
I guess what it comes down to is i want a fast phone and the scores show that the g2x is faster but reliability is a key issue with the g2x maybe GB will fix it (hope so) but don't know. With sense vs stock vanilla do you think that’s the reason why the HTC sensation has a low quad score compared to g2x? I know people say it’s the screen size but if they both were running stock do you still think the 1.2ghz snap vs 1ghz tegra would still be in favor of the g2x?
I was leaning towards the g2x just the fact that it has a unlocked boot loader which is definitely a big plus for me because i definitely want to mod the phone. Now that HTC has said they will unlock the boot loader which phone would have the most developers behind it?
Sigh, so torn between the two the lag between apps is a pet peeve of mine and i believe there are currently more developers backing up the tegra nvidia chip so it kind of leans me towards the g2x but the sensation does have a neat screen and really is untapped potential I think.
Let me know what you guys think.. what phone I should go for!!?!
THANKS
P.S. if GB fixed the random reboots and battery issue would u still give it up for the sensation? Seems most people are giving up the g2x for the reliability of the sensation
I'm in the same boat as you. I think the safe thing to do, and what I'm thinking about doing, is waiting for an update for the g2x. If nothing comes out soon, I'll end up getting a nexus or even a mytouch 4g.
Oh, if only people weren't complaining about the g2x, it would be a no-brainer.
I believe that the tegra 2 chipset has new architecture compared to the snapdragon. Also, it seems that game developers are really supporting tegra 2 fully because tegra has their own games store. If gaming on your phone is something that appeals to you, definitely go for the G2x, you will not be disappointed. I recently played Riptide GP, a tegra optimized game and I was blown away to say the least.
I don't really know much about the sensation, but if you do end up buying the G2x, I would suggest buying a used one in excellent condition from ebay, rather than a new one because you never know if it will have problems. I personally bought from gazelle store (30 day return period) and like the description said, it was in excellent condition, not a single scratch and no issues such as battery drain or rebooting.
If you like taking pictures a lot though, I heard that the sensation's "instant capture" is pretty awesome to take quick photos, not that the G2x's camera is slow, just not instant
Just personal taste...
I had the G2X.
As soon as I laid my eyes on the 4.3 qhd display, I was sold.
The amazing thing is that it truly does not feel or look like a 4.3 display. The 16:9 aspect ratio + the thin bevels around the screen make it "seem" smaller.
Truly a fantastic...crisp display. I knew it's what I wanted for the next 2 years of my contract +/-. I don't have the money to buy a new device every 6 months
Also keep in mind the Sensation records audio in STEREO. The G2X and GS2 only record audio in MONO. Something to consider that most people might not think about.
Either way in real world use...it's had to wrong with either one. Just make sure ya get a G2X with no screen bleed and a Sensation with no dust under the sceen...
My G2X had a good battery and didn't reboot a single time in the 2 months I used it. I gave it up for the Sensation because in my OPINION, the Sensation is the all around better phone. If you want a speedy UI, go with the G2X. Some things are faster on the Sensation while others are faster on the G2X. The only game I play (HomeRun Battle 3D) is smoother and looks better on the Sensation.
You have to make up your own mind. My advice would be to use both devices for a couple hours a piece and then make your decision.
Vertiginouz said:
I believe that the tegra 2 chipset has new architecture compared to the snapdragon. Also, it seems that game developers are really supporting tegra 2 fully because tegra has their own games store. If gaming on your phone is something that appeals to you, definitely go for the G2x, you will not be disappointed. I recently played Riptide GP, a tegra optimized game and I was blown away to say the least.
I don't really know much about the sensation, but if you do end up buying the G2x, I would suggest buying a used one in excellent condition from ebay, rather than a new one because you never know if it will have problems. I personally bought from gazelle store (30 day return period) and like the description said, it was in excellent condition, not a single scratch and no issues such as battery drain or rebooting.
If you like taking pictures a lot though, I heard that the sensation's "instant capture" is pretty awesome to take quick photos, not that the G2x's camera is slow, just not instant
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QFT about the gaming aspect. I think the Tegra store has some cool games, especially Riptide GP like you mentioned. To the OP. If gaming is important to you then go with the G2X like this guy said.
That being said. The only game I play which is Home Run Battle 3D runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation. I guess it has to do with the game getting along better with the Snapdragon processor over the Tegra processor but I'm not to sure.
Neither phone is truly gonna reach its potential until ice cream sandwich
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Neither phone is truly gonna reach its potential until ice cream sandwich
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This. As of now you may as well get a Nexus S as that is the only phone guaranteed to get Ice Cream Sandwich.
datboililp said:
I know another one of these threads but im super torn between the two. I've read through the forums and done my research on both even though the sensation is new and the locked boot loader we don't know its true potential yet
I know the issues with the g2x ie. screen bleed, battery drain, overheating and random freezes. The sensation with the bad angle and high contrast washed out screen, the death grip and some minor touchscreen issues.
I guess what it comes down to is i want a fast phone and the scores show that the g2x is faster but reliability is a key issue with the g2x maybe GB will fix it (hope so) but don't know. With sense vs stock vanilla do you think that’s the reason why the HTC sensation has a low quad score compared to g2x? I know people say it’s the screen size but if they both were running stock do you still think the 1.2ghz snap vs 1ghz tegra would still be in favor of the g2x?
I was leaning towards the g2x just the fact that it has a unlocked boot loader which is definitely a big plus for me because i definitely want to mod the phone. Now that HTC has said they will unlock the boot loader which phone would have the most developers behind it?
Sigh, so torn between the two the lag between apps is a pet peeve of mine and i believe there are currently more developers backing up the tegra nvidia chip so it kind of leans me towards the g2x but the sensation does have a neat screen and really is untapped potential I think.
Let me know what you guys think.. what phone I should go for!!?!
THANKS
P.S. if GB fixed the random reboots and battery issue would u still give it up for the sensation? Seems most people are giving up the g2x for the reliability of the sensation
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I had mentioned in an earlier thread that my son purchased a Sensation on Thursday afternoon. He came to visit today for Fathers Day, so we had the opportunity to have them side by side.
Both phones are pretty. The Sensation is wider and heavier. The Sense overlay is nice to look at and the unlock ring is cute. The Sense worked fairly well after I got used to it. I've always liked my stuff plain, and my son likes to customize to the max.
Performance wise, holding them side by side, the G2x was faster in some things...The Sensation in others. Browsing the web....it was a toss up.
The sound, the Sensation sounded better. Not only did I prefer the HTC ringtones, they just sounded better.
Intangibles....things like practical settings...were almost the same for both devices. G2x had some settings the Sensation did not. Nothing critical though.
Signal strength....side by side, the G2x carried a better 'visual' signal. where is hit 4g, he only had 2g. Switched on WiFi, the Sensation aquired the signal faster, but the G2x appeared to have more bars of strength. Speedtest was relatively the same.
Battery....this is the big one. He walked into the house at 100%. In less than 30 minutes he was looking at 81%. He did NOT have GPS on. But did have LIve Wallpaper. The rest was default actions. During this same period..same amount of browsing, same amount texts, my G2x lost about 5%.
Both phones are nice. Both feel good, both look good. The Sensation is a bit wider and a bit more bulky....but his hands are bigger than mine. In my mind the edge is slightly to the G2x. In his mind its the Sensation. I think the devices are that close. If he wanted to trade with me, neither of us would be disappointed.
I think this battle comes down to how those intangibles work for you. How it balances in your hand, how you view movies or games, or websites. Its that close....so the choice is personal.. Like someone said earlier....get the phone in your hands...they out. Your choice will become evident.
I agree with everything the above poster said. It really comes down to personal preference between the two.
@alodar1...Your son might have a defective battery because even if I am playing HomeRun Battle 3D for 30 minutes straight online against someone in match up mode, my battery doesn't even drain 10%. I thought my battery on my G2X was pretty good but without a doubt, my Sensation lasts a couple hours longer. I would get a easy 12 hours from my G2X on moderate use but I get over 15 hours on my Sensation with moderate use. There's actually quite a few people who own both devices and say they get longer life from the Sensation and here's why. The Sensations CPU can throttle back to one core but the G2X's CPU cannot so it is constantly running 2 cores. That's just wasted power and poor design. Maybe an update can fix it.
Ok... I just sold my G2x for the sensation, and I'm not looking back.
The g2x was nice, then 1 week ago I started getting 3 day reboots , I'm sick of waiting for fixes and gb. Yes the sensation has It's issues but is a better device...
I sold my G2x for 340 just to sell it quick. I then used my upgrade to get the sensation. Spent 268 on sensation, then get a 50$ rebate.. so I made it with like 120$ and a sensation...
Just can't wait for fixes, reboots made me want to leave, everyone going to the sensation made up my mind.... Htc updates ...
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Ok... I just sold my G2x for the sensation, and I'm not looking back.
The g2x was nice, then 1 week ago I started getting 3 day reboots , I'm sick of waiting for fixes and gb. Yes the sensation has It's issues but is a better device...
I sold my G2x for 340 just to sell it quick. I then used my upgrade to get the sensation. Spent 268 on sensation, then get a 50$ rebate.. so I made it with like 120$ and a sensation...
Just can't wait for fixes, reboots made me want to leave, everyone going to the sensation made up my mind.... Htc updates ...
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Bad decision bubba.. I'll letcha know when everyone jumps off the bridge u can go jump too lol
Yea I think so too.
CM7 just fixed the battery driver, enabled the dual radio (doubled cellular speeds), and has kernel-based LED notifications enabled in #54.
This beast just got beastier!
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Ok... I just sold my G2x for the sensation, and I'm not looking back.
The g2x was nice, then 1 week ago I started getting 3 day reboots , I'm sick of waiting for fixes and gb. Yes the sensation has It's issues but is a better device...
I sold my G2x for 340 just to sell it quick. I then used my upgrade to get the sensation. Spent 268 on sensation, then get a 50$ rebate.. so I made it with like 120$ and a sensation...
Just can't wait for fixes, reboots made me want to leave, everyone going to the sensation made up my mind.... Htc updates ...
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bro what happened?? didnt u start the never again lg thread? thought u were fighting for the g2x not leaving it, lol idk whatever makes u happy, so do u like?
Don't do sensation... the internal memory is so small it can never reach it's full potential. With everything on an SD card, you have no hard wired storage. Its like your operating drive in a computer being already full, it slows everything down. I think ill ask for a replacement when Gb comes out if my phone doesn't fully fix itself. I'm afraid of HTC, always seems like a hard case with poor tech inside.
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I have zero loyalty to any brand...just came from a BlackBerry 3 weeks ago....which I hated for the last 2 years. It worked as a phone and that was good enough.
I had the G2X for 13 days before I exchanged it for a Sensation.
I'm sooooo happy I made the switch.
I could not live with the screen bleed at the top corners of the G2X.
Then I started looking at the specs that matter to me most.....
The biggest one being the (imo) gorgeous qHD display and far better resolution. There really is no comparison.....the Sensations display is beautiful and I knew its the one I wanted to look at everyday for the next 2 years of my contract. Also it doesn't feel any bigger than the G2X....with its 16:9 aspect ratio and super thin bevels around the display...it doesn't feel or look too big....its just perfect.
What seems to be a sticking point for some people is the internal memory. Personally, I could care less about internal storage as I will never have the need to put hundreds and hundreds of apps on it. I would think that It is a very small % of users who would ever have more than a gig of apps on their device. Right now I have about 30 apps and still have exactly 1 gig of internal mem.
The other really big thing for me wanting to switch was when I discovered that the G2X only records in MONO. The Sensation records audio in STEREO. If having an HD camcorder is at all a selling point for you...you really should consider that.
Also, I guess I'm one of the people that like eye candy and Sense 3.0 is gorgeous and ultra quick enough for me.
That's my humble opinion
sarni84 said:
bro what happened?? didnt u start the never again lg thread? thought u were fighting for the g2x not leaving it, lol idk whatever makes u happy, so do u like?
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I know man. lol I was gonna fight for it, but then I though about the vibrant, and how I just dont want to any more, and not to mention I started to get reboots after a month of perfection and didnt do anything different, any rom.
With the sensation there is no need to fight. It just works.
So, yes the sensation is better, My first one was weird, and I had to return in, had this weird piece of something, like dust, dead pixel line or something. lol I think the rep didnt like me and game me the defective one purposefully, so I went today and exchanged it..
speed, just as fast as g2x, just turn off animations and dump the widgets. The shortcuts in the drop down are nice, the extra stuff on sense is really nice also.
screen, face on the sensation is awesome, slight angle, it gets washed out. I give screen to g2x.
battery: I had good battery on my g2x but the sensation does a lil better.
build: about a tie, but the design of how the back cover is, is awesome IMO. Like taking half the phone apart. lol looks sweet. So Im giving hardware to HTC.
GPS: sensation is fast as ****, g2x would need like 1 min to lock, sensation like 4 seconds. My tracks were dead on. Almost like gps got worse on the g2x.
call quality is a tie: they both sound great.
I dont know what else, that dont sound much, but its just a all around nicer device, I dont want to wait it out for LG to come up with something, when the sensation has it already.
Have a good g2x no issues besides not being able to use cyanogen mod because data doesn't work .
Using gb update zip, very smooth and no issues as of yet. Phone is nice but battery is a killer for me, barley lasting 6 hours , of moderate to heavy use. Tempted to sell and wait for the nexus to come out or an iphone if on tmobile. Have offer of $200 plus a mytouch 4g for the g2x.
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Just Ordered The Optimus 3D, Right Choice?

Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself as much as anything.
I ordered the Optimus 3d yesterday instead of the S2 which I have been waiting to get for about 4 months and in the end after reading a few people who are much happier with their 3D's than the critics I chose it.
Still on the fence in a way though, I read that LG had promised gingerbread for the 3D and I'm hoping that resolves some battery issues.
Can any you offer me further confidence I've made the right call? I do prefer to have something more unique than what everyone gets i.e. iphone, s2. But do you think this phone still competes with those two ignoring the 3d features?
In case anyone's interested I didn't save a great deal by opting for the 3d over the S2, decided to outlay £165 so that I could have a cheaper monthly commitment as 24 months but at £15 pm not too bad.
Also, any tips recommendations on what to do first/install when the phone arrives would be most appreciated. Cheers MaxCG
Everybody i show my o3d to is impressed even gs2 owners. lets golf 2 pre installed is a perfect show off
I had also been saving for 3-4 months for the Galaxy S2 until i saw the Optimus 3D in a shop.. then i started freaking out comparing the two for days. hesitating etc.. ended up getting the S2 because of the critics, reviews etc.. but sure enough the day after, I returned the S2 and got the Optimus 3D and dont regret it yet. But the charger is a peace of crap.. stopped working after 1 week. So using a third party usb charger. apart from that.. loove my phone.. Make sure to do the update of the LG (yu dont need rooting etc.. its a LG update) and the HD video will improve greatly!!
From my point of view, the only points where other phone could beat the O3D is in the battery life (poor to say the least), resolution (wvga when others already have qHD) and memory (512 should be enough? Without sense I do think so, but others have a Gb and this is about comparisions).
None of these points have a great 'Whoa!' Factor.
3D does.
So if you want to impress your friends, the O3D is a sure winner.
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Thanks for the feedback guys, especially cinemano as it's good to hear from someone who actually swapped their S2 for the 03D.
I'll make sure I get LG's update when it arrives. Is there anything that can be safely altered on the phone to improve battery life unneeded software that runs? I like the idea of customizing the phone but seen already that a lot of people have managed to brick their 03D's so will wait till their's more consistent success with custom roms before fiddling with it.
Looking forward to trying to condense a copy of Avatar 3D and seeing how it runs.
This will be my first android phone, having bought a cheap SF for the Mrs. I was blown away how smooth it was for £80 compared to what was when bought, my £500 Omnia HD. Any tips on making full use of android on the O3D?
EDIT: Would an extra battery be a good idea and are they dear?
I am absolutely satisified with my o3d. i dont care about the resolution as long the 3d effect is better. i costumized my o3d with other launcher, removed bloatware, used setcpu, so i can get a smoother interface. And i can tell u that it is better than the Evo 3D. In 3D stuff and everything else. U cant compare a Dual-Core 1,2 Ghz 1GB ram device with a Dual-Core 1Ghz (newer generation) 512 mb dual channel ram device. Even O3D (with Froyo) is kicking Evo3D's (with Gingerbread) ass. Yes you can Overclock Evo3D now to 1,8 Ghz i think... but what is the point of doing this without dual-channel ram? And come on guys.... for what do you need to overclock these phones? Not enough power?? BTW .. i am pretty sure, that we will have the option to overclock our O3D in the future, for those who are Benchmark-addicted. And the good news that Cyanogen will support this device is even better, so our Smartphone won't be outdated.
Yes battery sucks, but the Evo3D is almost the same. My friend got the Evo3D and I had a chance to compare both.
I love my O3D and i dont regret the choice.
The battery is fine likes. Ive just been to a wedding and filmed 6GB of 3D video and used the phone normally for the rest of the trip, a total of 27.5 hours and i have 5% battery left.
It seems to settle out once you use the phone for a week or two.
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I changed my SGS2 for the OD3 as well. Its amazing what this device can do even if it still runs Froyo.The 3D content is just amazing.The only think missing is Gingerbread, hopefully we gonna have it next month.
Dont know if i can post it here, but there is a link with a lot of 3D content so you can enjoy your O3D.
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I changed my SGS2 for the OD3 as well. Its amazing what this device can do even if it still runs Froyo.The 3D content is just amazing.The only think missing is Gingerbread, hopefully we gonna have it next month.
Dont know if i can post it here, but there is a link with a lot of 3D content so you can enjoy your O3D.
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delete the url.. its warez
What's the best way going about removing "bloatware"? Don't want to remove anything important
Cheers for your thoughts typhex, though fyi the Evo was never an option for me. But good to know the o3D is beating the competition.
I'm really quite restless waiting for my phone now, should have gone to store. Plus don't think anyone will be here for delivery tomorrow, darn it!
I also changed my SGS2 for the O3D.
Absolutely no regrets!
Everyone I showed the O3D to were impressed by it.
You will enjoy it.
The LG Optimus 3D is a kick-A phone. My first Android smartphone, and certainly light years beyond the crusty (but recent) WinMo 6.5 device I had before. It's nice to have access to nearly everything imaginable now, and with lightning-quick speed. Perhaps the biggest drawback of the O3D is the never-ending desire to download yet MORE content and apps!
The screen is beautiful, and the thickness is not bad, considering the screensize and everything it does. I own (currently, but probably not much longer) a Nintendo 3DS, and I can easily say that the O3D makes it a rather redundant gadget.
Gameloft had 5-6 full 3D games for O3D for $1each a week or two ago. Got them all. Just wish there were some portable-size 3D movies to buy (don't really want to fool with the pain & expense of ripping & down-converting a 3D BD).
3D video is smooth. And this thing is the envy of all in your hands. Taking photos in 3D makes you much the 'traveler from the Future' when showing it off.
While the battery isn't the biggest, you can manage well by NOT using LG's own battery widget (I'm using the free version of 'Battery Indicator', and there's a noticeable reduction on drain speed). Also, I use Juice Defender Ultimate with default settings and that helps keep life. (And I use this thing a LOT.)
Lastly, look for the 1700mah battery by Chichitec on Amazon. It's really reasonably-priced, and comes in a pair with a charger. It's not a cheap knockoff though: these 1700's fare a good bit more usage time than the stock LG 1500.
Thanks everyone,
damonous, do you have a link for that "1700mah battery by Chichitec on Amazon"? I can't seem to find it on there, though I'm looking on the UK site. Cheers
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The battery is fine likes. Ive just been to a wedding and filmed 6GB of 3D video and used the phone normally for the rest of the trip, a total of 27.5 hours and i have 5% battery left.
It seems to settle out once you use the phone for a week or two.
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You must have a super battery mines terrible I basically have used it today for 1 hours music, 10 mins internet and 10 texts, its been 12 hours 36 mins from charger and am down to 23%.
I have nothing syncing at all everything is set to manual updates I have had the phone for a month and a half now, it was the exact same with the other one I had also, its a joke and might soonn be sold as a good battery is important, I could accept using the 3D hammers the battery but I haven't touched anything 3D today I would expect normal use to be far better than this.
yeah... 6gb 3d Film ... 27,5 hours. it must be a joke. or he shut the phone down in between
I will leave mine recording 3D tomorrow to get 6gb and see how long it lasts, from some rough estimates of what I have recorded to do 6gb you would have to record around 2 hours of 3D video.
1 hour 47 minutes. About 20 photos.
3G turned off except when in use is the only thing i do to save battery really.
Ive noticed that when cell coverage is poor the battery drains faster though.
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Everybody with drain, contact lg. mine battery was really **** full charge and with 6 hrs no use almost empty. now i got a new phone and battery and usage is much better
After some inpatience mixed in with bad delivery estimations the Mrs. has finally picked up my O3D from the post office. I've now been counting down the hours till I get home. Prob not quite worthed getting sacked over by just leaving now
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my time without the G2x.....

My main phone, I had to switch to my backup G2 for the next few months. I can't go back my g2x for the time being, its complicated to explain.
Its now 2 weeks since the switch and I miss my G2x, just snappier, faster, and just better overall device. Turns out some of the things I complained about followed me on the G2. Its the email syncs I always complain about. Its a CM7 issue and I believe the memory gets so used up by my other apps that the android email just crashes. Saw the same symptoms on my G2. Maybe its the 500mb of ram. Owned a mytouch 4g and didn't have that, but I digress.
The things I miss:
The big screen. 3.7 inches isn't enough for my fat fingers. I make so many mistakes.
The snalpier a.d faster reaction. Of course
better reception and signal. It handles 4g signal better
Physical keyboards just overrated.
The only thing that does surprise me is just how well the G2 holds its charge. Moderate use and lots of texting, I really survive 8 plus hours on the G2. And still have juice left like 45%
I wanna go back to G2x but now its my media device at home while the G2 serves as my main phone. It just handles better.
Just wanted to share my thoughts. I miss this phone as my main device.
vmartinez39 said:
My main phone, I had to switch to my backup G2 for the next few months. I can't go back my g2x for the time being, its complicated to explain.
Its now 2 weeks since the switch and I miss my G2x, just snappier, faster, and just better overall device. Turns out some of the things I complained about followed me on the G2. Its the email syncs I always complain about. Its a CM7 issue and I believe the memory gets so used up by my other apps that the android email just crashes. Saw the same symptoms on my G2. Maybe its the 500mb of ram. Owned a mytouch 4g and didn't have that, but I digress.
The things I miss:
The big screen. 3.7 inches isn't enough for my fat fingers. I make so many mistakes.
The snalpier a.d faster reaction. Of course
better reception and signal. It handles 4g signal better
Physical keyboards just overrated.
The only thing that does surprise me is just how well the G2 holds its charge. Moderate use and lots of texting, I really survive 8 plus hours on the G2. And still have juice left like 45%
I wanna go back to G2x but now its my media device at home while the G2 serves as my main phone. It just handles better.
Just wanted to share my thoughts. I miss this phone as my main device.
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tl;dr. I get over a days battery life on my G2x. Two of veeery light use.
going team crackberry for a while till gn drops in price. saw it awesome. meanwhile selling my g2x im only using it as a portable media device anyways... im sure i can hold on for like 2-3 months on ****ty crackberry
ed116 said:
going team crackberry for a while till gn drops in price. saw it awesome. meanwhile selling my g2x im only using it as a portable media device anyways... im sure i can hold on for like 2-3 months on ****ty crackberry
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Wait for something else. GN gpu is bad. I would wait for the Galaxy S2 HD version to come to the states (or get it from outside of the states).
Please think about the T-Mobile GS2. It rocks my socks. Biggest screen you could want without being obnoxious, and also a pretty nice dev community, especially with ICS coming.
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GBGamer said:
Please think about the T-Mobile GS2. It rocks my socks. Biggest screen you could want without being obnoxious, and also a pretty nice dev community, especially with ICS coming.
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Agreed. GNex is a great phone but SGSII is planning to habitually refresh their product line. Attention to consumers gets major brownie points in my book.
cough LG cough

Still a good phone to buy?

Looking to get new phone. Options are SGS2, Sensation 4g or LG Optimus L9. Buying used, shooting for the galaxy first but is the sensation a good fa back? Hoping to get something that could last me a year if I don't get the next IPhone. I know, bad word sorry. Ill get the soap
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still is a good phone. I have chosen the Sensation over the used SGS2 and Iphone 4 last xmas.
I think its still good but i would personally would choose a gs2 over this phone reasons arent many though i would because i need a bigger screen for my thumbs, its actually a little faster than sensation and i can make it look like a galaxy s3,,, downside is that screen is lower than the sensation, build quality feels cheaper, camera seems better on sensation.... over all gs2 will win with speed, buy a case for your phone makes it feel better, camera is still good and lets be real we dont use all the roms out there so we just need a few developers that can work on a few roms like cm10.1, the gs3 rom that works on s2, and it is a great phone if u dont wanna spend on an s3 since the s4 is right around the corner
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Sensation all the way! I think it's still a great phone, although the S2 is getting an official JB update.
I don't need official jelly or ice cream or kitkat. Ill put a custom rom on whatever i buy, offical roms tend to get bogged down with bloat and take forever to come out.Yea IDk about the s4 even, that would be like 600 dollars and in 6 months I won't have that so I'll stay under 300. If i could i'd be getting the nexus but just low supply and just over my budget. Want a good camera, speedy enough to play a handful of games, not going to tackle GTA, stuff like cut the rope, angry birds or songpop. I casual game on phones, got a console for hardcore gaming.part of me likes to tinker with all the roms and stuff but a bigger part of me is annoyed at that and would just like a stress free phone but I have to deal with it for now
I miss flip phones they never broke down at least not any of the ones i ever owned... remember when a phone was for phone calls and text and the sometimes web browsing for myspace or google
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I recently bought my Sensation XE for £130. The way I looked at it is that it is not worth spending more than £150 on a second hand phone because the Nexus 4 is only £240. The SGS2 at the time was selling for about £190 second hand. So I decided to save some money and have a play with the sensation.
I've found that premium accessories for the sensation are very cheap when compared to the SGS2. I guess they are trying to flush out stock for the sensation as the SGS2 is still available new.
Rom development on cyanogenmod is a bit further behind on the sensation if that is important to you. There is a wealth of roms to play with on the sensation and that situation should get even more interesting with the asian htc one s recently getting updated to jelly bean. The ICS roms work the best so far but JB 4.1 roms are solid for use. JB 4.2 is on the horizon.
I can't say which phone is better but the sensation is not bad.
Hope this helps.
yea i think that does help. I may just save some coin and go with the sensation.guess If it last 9-10 months, I can look at my options then.
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I was doubting between sg2 and sensation over a year ago. Still regret my choise (going for sensation).
well here's what I'm looking at. galaxy is 244, and the price fluctuates a bit. the sensation is 178. I want to shoot for the galaxy but I would like to save the 66 bucks, but I think what if I need to stay with the phone I get for a year, what will hold up best in terms of use. I want it to be speedy, doesn't have to be quad core speedy but I'd like it to not hang when I select and app or unlock the screen. 3g, 4g doesn't matter, as long as its decently fast to stream Pandora. If i do any uploading of vids it'll be on wifi mainly. Think screen washout in sunlight and camera quality both front and rear are my big concern. I have read some issues with gs2 getting bootloops without being rooted or rom-ed, i also worry about scratches on the glass buying used. guess my worries are the same as buying a car. want it to get me through without worry but not cost me my life savings (or lack of),
screamline458 said:
well here's what I'm looking at. galaxy is 244, and the price fluctuates a bit. the sensation is 178. I want to shoot for the galaxy but I would like to save the 66 bucks, but I think what if I need to stay with the phone I get for a year, what will hold up best in terms of use. I want it to be speedy, doesn't have to be quad core speedy but I'd like it to not hang when I select and app or unlock the screen. 3g, 4g doesn't matter, as long as its decently fast to stream Pandora. If i do any uploading of vids it'll be on wifi mainly. Think screen washout in sunlight and camera quality both front and rear are my big concern. I have read some issues with gs2 getting bootloops without being rooted or rom-ed, i also worry about scratches on the glass buying used. guess my worries are the same as buying a car. want it to get me through without worry but not cost me my life savings (or lack of),
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I have the sensation, wife has the s2. She likes it, I don't. I like mine, she don't
I was thinking of getting a Nexus 4 recently mine was doing some random **** (slow, homescreen reloads etc). Not really anything huge just annoying. But after thinking about it, I couldn't afford to drop that kind of money on a phone when I could be putting it towards other stuff.
I was wanting to root it for ages so finally did it. It improved a crap load! I did notice my battery wasn't really lasting through the day though. Again, I wanted to get a decent one for a while so I thought, new battery = cheap "new" phone.
It's working a treat.
The wife is starting to get annoyed with the s2 now as well - can't help with the specifics but I think it's just doing little annoying things as well.
We've both had ours for over 2 years. They're both running strong but after giving the sensation a freshen up, it's got a new lease on life. I think if you rooted etc the s2 you'll get similar results.
Personally, if you're looking at saving money and only want it to last a year - Sensation. I don't think it'll be that much slower than the s2 (in fact I think mine is faster than the wife's). And you can put the $60 towards the new beast. I really don't think the s2 is $60 better.
The Sensation has a terrible battery life. Stay away!
ungraph said:
The Sensation has a terrible battery life. Stay away!
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Actually mine is pretty good !
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lg 9
No one has talked about the lg 9 I would suggest looking at reviews and the forums here. I've played with it. It was nice, not too cheap feeling. Pretty snappy, but it was new and few apps installed. The camera has never impressed me on m sensation. The lg is only a five mega pixel so I would guess they saved money here, though tmobile is offering it for around 200 new,
it still is a pretty good phone, and running pretty smooth with a custom rom
I have a sensation 4g (lot of battery drain) but I have a new battery that is 1900mAh.
With custom rom, its blazing fast. But i'd recommend SG2 anyway because I'm korean.
Will you be tethering or otherwise requiring faster data? SGSII is HSPA+42. Sensation is HSPA14.
For me, the difference at home is 2-3mbps vs 7-11mbps, and in the city, can be 4-6mbps vs 12-18mbps.
Still a good phone but with a reasonable price, or I'll save more for a Nexus 4
no tethering. Nexus 4 would be nice if there it wasn't sold out and I had another 100 bucks for it
bought the S2

which phone offers the most similar experiecne?

My contract is coming up for renewal in late February and I'm thinking of replacing my phone with a new Android device. I realize this might be the wrong forum section to post in, but who better to ask than my fellow Shield lovers.
I had a Galaxy Note (original) and a Galaxy S2 prior, and they weren't bad. For the time Touchwiz, and a poor email client really put me off of Android as a phone primarily for me is a communication device, but I still like to have fun with it.
I ended up going back to Blackberry and have been rocking a Z10 for a long time. But won an iphone 5s through work and have been using that for about the past year. I bought a Z30 recently as it was being sold at a stupidly low price new in box from factory and I am sick and tired of the small screens and piss poor battery life of the iphone.
I also have a first gen Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet, and I've been complaining about it for the past 6-10 months because of it's size and weight and now that apps are being optimized for newer OS versions it's getting really slow. So my wife bought me a Shield for Christmas and I absoltuley love it!
I love how the UI is on this tablet and now know what all the fuss is about for Andorid. Touchwiz ruins the experience in my opinion. So I'm thinking for my new phone I'm going to get a Lollipop device for sure...the question is which one?
I don't want a Nexus as I don't like the idea of non-expandable memory and my 64gb card in my Sheild is getting pretty full, no way I could survive with a device that isn't at least 64gb (my iphone is 64gb and is usually between 50-60gb loaded up with music and media.)
So which device has a UI that is as close to the Shield as possible with expandable memory and isn't the size of a house. 5" is about my max screen size. There is no need to go larger as I already have the Sheild, and I want it to be pocketable. I got rid of my Note because I just kept leaving it on my desk. I would also love to get a 16-20 hour day with heavy use. FWIW my iphone 5s is completley dead by the time 2:00pm rolls around when it comes off the charger at 5:30am. I'm usually not near a charger again until 6:30-7:00pm on average. It's going to be a lot to ask but a 5:30am to 10:00pm battery life would be fantastic...
If you want a stock OS look and MicroSD, get the HTC M8 Google Play Edition. Stock Android, front speakers, and MicroSD support just like the ST.
Not going to be a popular opinion around here but the iPhone 6 gets much much better battery life than the older ones, if you are already invested into iTunes that may be a valid option for you. For me I have the 6 plus and it is cool because I get awesome battery life and then I get completely different games then the ones that are available on my shield tab so I have pretty much the best of both worlds.
Also my reason for going to the iPhone is because I have ATT and needed a carrier subsidized phone, tried the Nexus 6 it is utter crap build quality and the Note 4 is not even rootable, there is not much else that is really modern on ATT.
As far as gaming ready devices, all Qualcomm Snapdragon devices fall into a mediocre range. None of them are really "smooth" at gaming and all of them work hard to provide perpetual fluidity. Bad video drivers and non-existent high clock efficiency mean those devices scale vey poorly, and gaming takes a monstrous drain on the battery for even simple 2D games. If you are looking for a device which can handle gaming in a manner similar to the shield (and aren't too concerned with what you might lose) then tegra phones and iPhones are your best option objectively. It's impossible to recommend a Qualcomm device as better for gaming. If you are just looking for a simple phone with light gaming, then something like the upcoming HTC M9 or a likewise lollipop based device would be fine. But if gaming is your concern (which you don't seem to mention) then my above statements hold very true.
All "stock" suggestions should definitely fly with "but shall include excessive Google bloatware that wouldn't be accepted from Samsung or any other OEM." That much said, crap like Drive Earth Docs Sheets Slides Newsstand Books Music Movies Plus Fit Now Wallet Keyboard Chrome and the ever constant location stalker CAN be disabled quite easily.
Preliminary reports say the S5 is shaping up to perform amazingly on Lollipop. A simple comparison of this tablet and the Nexus 7 and the iPad-Mini-esque Nexus 9, has shown me that it's all about the implementation of lollipop, not comparing who has the biggest version number, that is essential in determining which device is best.
Google Play Edition phones like HTC One M8 or Galaxy S4.
The Moto G and X phones also offer nearly stock OS.
Gaming is not a concern for me with a phone, thats what the Tablet is for. a Pretty stock non-bloated with manufacture crud OS is whats most important I think. Touchwiz was just annoying when I was test driving a Note 3 and on my S2 when I had it. Just didn't enjoy it. I also don't like how big the S5 and such has gotten.
I'll take a closer look at the Google Play edition phones. I wanted to get something direct from carrier to get the subsidy and save some cash... I'm on Rogers in Canada... No Moto X is avaialble, and it doesn't appear to have a micro SD. However the Sony Z3 seems to have a pretty stock version of Android... what are peoples opinions on that device?
Well I wouldn't say it's stock by any means. It's actually fairly heavy on skinning, but it does look nice. Updates will be very slow for Sony phones. But the battery life is fantastic, and the overall hardware is nice. Sony phones can be problematic, but since it's a carrier device you can always yell at Rogers.
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Well I wouldn't say it's stock by any means. It's actually fairly heavy on skinning, but it does look nice. Updates will be very slow for Sony phones. But the battery life is fantastic, and the overall hardware is nice. Sony phones can be problematic, but since it's a carrier device you can always yell at Rogers.
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Yea, I'm reading more on the Z3 forums and seeing stuff I'm not overly happy with.
One thing that is ever important to me is the speed and quality of the camera, something I'm addicted to on my iphone. I'm a part-time professional photographer along with my day job. So I got a camera for manual control and taking beautiful shot. I love my iphone for the quick burst that I can do within a couple of seconds on the fly (and thats about it that I've found as a pro over Android). I don't know if there is an Android phone out there that can compete, which is very unfortunate. When I was test driving the Note 3, one of the few major reasons I returned it was due to the crappy camera speed/AF. (The others were size and touchwiz)
Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5, Nexus 6 or the Google Play Edition phones from the play store. Thats about it. I guess the OnePlus One fits the bill also.
I can't recommend the Moto X enough. Mine is absolutely amazing and I've owned QUITE a few different phones over the past few years including Samsung, HTC, Sony, Nexus, ZTE. The Motorola lineup of the past year or so has been nothing short of phenomenal.
I disagree on the basis that the battery life is pretty bad. Like iPhone levels of battery life frankly. I'm surprised people just glaze over that. 2300mah battery with lollipop+amoled is battery hell.
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I disagree on the basis that the battery life is pretty bad. Like iPhone levels of battery life frankly. I'm surprised people just glaze over that. 2300mah battery with lollipop+amoled is battery hell.
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Do you own one? Because I do. And I routinely hit 18-19 hours with 2.5-3 hours of screen time. Everyone I see complaining about battery life doesn't own one, and are just parroting FUD.
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I disagree on the basis that the battery life is pretty bad. Like iPhone levels of battery life frankly. I'm surprised people just glaze over that. 2300mah battery with lollipop+amoled is battery hell.
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Do you own one? Because I do. And I routinely hit 18-19 hours with 2.5-3 hours of screen time. Everyone I see complaining about battery life doesn't own one, and are just parroting FUD.
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I'd also have to agree. I was hesitant about the phone when it was first announced because of the battery and held off buying one until the Cyber Monday coupon deal. Since then, I've added a wireless charging module (thread in the accessories sub-forum for the phone) and I couldn't be happier. Not saying you need a wireless mod, I just missed that from the Nexus 5. But even so, the battery has been above and beyond what I expected, the phone's performance is top notch, Active Display or whatever its called has no second best and Motorola's adherence to near stock Android is the cherry on top.
Like icase said, unless you have one and have something to back up your comment, you're just blowing FUD. My go to devices today are my 2014 Moto X and my Nvidia Shield Tablet.
wired335 said:
My contract is coming up for renewal in late February and I'm thinking of replacing my phone with a new Android device. I realize this might be the wrong forum section to post in, but who better to ask than my fellow Shield lovers.
I had a Galaxy Note (original) and a Galaxy S2 prior, and they weren't bad. For the time Touchwiz, and a poor email client really put me off of Android as a phone primarily for me is a communication device, but I still like to have fun with it.
I ended up going back to Blackberry and have been rocking a Z10 for a long time. But won an iphone 5s through work and have been using that for about the past year. I bought a Z30 recently as it was being sold at a stupidly low price new in box from factory and I am sick and tired of the small screens and piss poor battery life of the iphone.
I also have a first gen Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet, and I've been complaining about it for the past 6-10 months because of it's size and weight and now that apps are being optimized for newer OS versions it's getting really slow. So my wife bought me a Shield for Christmas and I absoltuley love it!
I love how the UI is on this tablet and now know what all the fuss is about for Andorid. Touchwiz ruins the experience in my opinion. So I'm thinking for my new phone I'm going to get a Lollipop device for sure...the question is which one?
I don't want a Nexus as I don't like the idea of non-expandable memory and my 64gb card in my Sheild is getting pretty full, no way I could survive with a device that isn't at least 64gb (my iphone is 64gb and is usually between 50-60gb loaded up with music and media.)
So which device has a UI that is as close to the Shield as possible with expandable memory and isn't the size of a house. 5" is about my max screen size. There is no need to go larger as I already have the Sheild, and I want it to be pocketable. I got rid of my Note because I just kept leaving it on my desk. I would also love to get a 16-20 hour day with heavy use. FWIW my iphone 5s is completley dead by the time 2:00pm rolls around when it comes off the charger at 5:30am. I'm usually not near a charger again until 6:30-7:00pm on average. It's going to be a lot to ask but a 5:30am to 10:00pm battery life would be fantastic...
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Hi, just my two cents, IMHO the Nvidia Shield is a great tablet but to play PC games you have to stream to Nvidia, so if I want to recommend to you a similar device, the closest phone you can get is the Sony Experia Z3, Android 5 Lollipop, battery levels are very good, beautiful design and you can connect it to a playstation and play the games wireless on your phone with the PS controller. You even get the sound from your controller by connecting the headphones to it.
I have a couple of ideas.
If you can wait, the HTC Hima promises to be a beast. A Snapdragon 810 with a 1080p screen means that it will probably crush every other phone in terms of performace, thanks to every other phone jumping on the pointless 4K train. Look it up. It looks pretty nice. *drool*
If you need something now, then....I know you want a smaller phone, but....I can't recommend the Oneplus One enough.
-It is actually thinner than and not as wide as the Note, dispite its slightly larger screen.
-Even though it has no expandable storage, 64 gigs of internal storage has actually proven more useful to me. I never have to worry about limited storage for application data.
-The battery life on this thing is nuts. I'm a heavy user and I only need to charge it every other day.
-1080p screen. This is a plus because it it uses less resources than a 4k display. And honestly, most, if not all people, cannot tell the difference.
-Snapdragon 801 with 3 gigs of RAM. This thing flies, and multitasks like a champ. I remember a time not too long ago when more than 2gb RAM was considered excessive for most DESKTOP computers. I think its more than the specs that make this thing fly, though. Something in the hardware implementation must be special, because people have been reporting some pretty unbelievable benchmarks. Oh, and Sonic Adventure 2 runs smoothly in Reicast.
-The XDA scene is HUGE for this device. Its the most popular device on the forums. There are, like, 73 billion ROMs for it and maybe 2.5 billion kernels. I've never owned such a popular device. This is my favorite feature.
Its also the one of the only devices I have right now that isn't defective in some way. I tend to have horrible luck when purchasing electronics.
I hope I've helped you reach some sort of conclusion. Good luck. :good:
thanks guys,
I went into my Rogers store and manhandled what they had on display as well as a few open box units. I also took at look at Telus, but they can't meet me on my plan so no point in switching over. But the Moto X seemed like the best device.
I found the Z3 to be the best value for me right now. As I originally mentioned I'm not looking at the phone for gaming, but to be a workhorse and get me through a very heavy use work day. Not having Touch-Wiz was a huge plus for me, and I really enjoyed some of the things they changed in the skin. The camera performed a lot better than the other phones I tried in store. the HTC M8 was a very close contender, but the camera just sucks so horribly it got kicked out of the running faster than I could blink. I honestly think that Nokia/Windows Phone has the best camera interface after playing around with phones the past week, but the Z3 does a pretty good job.
For me it was the battery power, the UI, and the pretty impressive spec sheet that (hopefuly) will not force me to upgrade in the next 18 months that caused me to go with the Z3 overall. Rogers has a pretty limited offering right now which is annoying. I almost went with the Samsung S5, but remembered how much Touch-Wiz pozioned me the first time.
If they had a Nexus 5 32gb in stock I would have probably gone with that instead...and dealt with the size limitiation...but none left for corporate customers.
So my Black Z3 is in the mail and I'm really looking forward to it. Especially since my time frame for getting a new device really escallated with an unexpected smashy smashy of my iphone (dropped it and ran it over with a stroller by complete accident. One of the only times it wasn't cased!) now I need a case for my Z3

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