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4G Only UMTS ?

My phone has poor to no reception at work.
I've never seen a 3G icon on it, only 2G or 4G.
And even when it says 4G its always UMTS.
Yes I'm in a 4G area so at some point I'd think it would say HSPA+
but it hasnt yet in the 5 days I've had it.
If I cant figure out this reception issue the phones getting returned before
the 14 day buyers remorse period is up.
Anyone else having this issue with their phone ?

Hspa+ is UMTS. Tmo and Att 3g and "4g" will always say UMTS until they install a different type of network.
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It says HSDPA for 4G and UMTS for 3G. The phone however always displays 4G as a gimmick. 4G even when your are on UMTS, even the G2 was like this

going_home said:
My phone has poor to no reception at work.
I've never seen a 3G icon on it, only 2G or 4G.
And even when it says 4G its always UMTS.
Yes I'm in a 4G area so at some point I'd think it would say HSPA+
but it hasnt yet in the 5 days I've had it.
If I cant figure out this reception issue the phones getting returned before
the 14 day buyers remorse period is up.
Anyone else having this issue with their phone ?
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I have found the same issue. Only umts no matter what area I may be in. My vibrant in the same area shows hspda. Called CS and immediately they agreed to send out a replacement with shipping fees waived. I am wondering if this phone actually will process a hspda signal. It appears that there is no 3G notification just 4G and Edge(2G) My download speeds are a bit lower than I get on my Vibrant. If this unit is the same than back it goes and I will wait for the SGSII

Talked to one of the reps in the company store I got the phone from.
I showed him that the phone was showing the 4G icon yet was also showing UMTS.
He said he hadnt heard of any issues with the phone yet but that I might try another phone, and if its the same just return it too.
I think if a 2nd phone does that then its time to get a refund and wait for the
Sensation to hit.
I hate that, I really like the phone, but if it doesnt work right, whats the point ?

eHRPD & New York

For New York Tbolt owners, can you advise if your phone is working in eHRPD mode. Since the natiowide outage I have been on LTE and no matter what I try my phone doesn't show eHRPD.
Verizon said there are no network issues but I can't figure out what is wrong..

Jrocker23 said:
For New York Tbolt owners, can you advise if your phone is working in eHRPD mode. Since the natiowide outage I have been on LTE and no matter what I try my phone doesn't show eHRPD.
Verizon said there are no network issues but I can't figure out what is wrong..
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whats ehrpd?

It's the transitional network for CDMA to LTE. The bolt should have eHRPD instead of Rev-A for Mobile Network Type when using 3G. During the outage, eHRPD and LTE were out which is why people were able to manually set their phones to default to EVDO Rev-A and get 3G data back. The so called fix Verizon made was more of a bandaid fix that defaulted all phones to Rev-A without having to go into the settings. Believe eHRPD came back up sometime last week. Required a reboot for me to pick it back up.

i live on the upper east side. i'm running CM7. when my "Network Mode" is set to "CDMA + LTE / EvDo" my "Mobile network type" is listed as "LTE." when i'm on "CDMA / EvDo Auto" my mobile network type is "CDMA - EHRPD." don't know what all that stuff would be if you were running stock sense.

Nevermind, i think I just spaced out for a moment. When the phone is set to CDMA + LTE / EvDo auto it should show LTE under network settings, correct? but when it defaults to 3G it will show the eHRPD setting?
I hope thats it..

yeah, you should only see eHRPD when you're connected to 3G only.

PJnc284 said:
yeah, you should only see eHRPD when you're connected to 3G only.
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Thank you vm

Noticed this morning it was back on for me. Been evdo since the outage.
Just south of Syracuse.

Is it faster than Rev a or just a different version
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churro7 said:
Is it faster than Rev a or just a different version
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Different version, same slow speeds.
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eHRPD had been working fine for me for days in Maryland, but about 25 minutes ago, it died out again and has remained out.
I'm able to get EvDO Rev. A by disabling eHRPD (requires a phone reboot, grrr) but I can get neither EvDO nor LTE with eHRPD enabled. I can't even get 1x with eHRPD enabled, no matter whether I tell it CDMA PRL or LTE Only or the Auto selection.
Aside from that, LTE had been variously dropping out in the evening and through the night. For all of those dropouts until about 20 minutes ago, I could seamlessly switch to EvDO over eHRPD without losing my IP address allocation, and resume whatever I was doing. But with having to disable eHRPD now just to get any kind of data connection, we're back to 2006.
They seem to have no shortage of 10 - 45 minute outages of LTE and/or eHRPD after midnight; hardly seems like "America's Most Reliable Network" anymore. Maybe they're borrowing a page from landline Verizon's DSL service, which has an uptime of about 40 hours a week here.

Since the big outage, I'd been showing eHRPD as the mobile network type. Until this morning, that is. I had 3G/4G on the train from north Jersey but when I exited airplane mode upon emerging from the 14th St. PATH station, I was on 1X.

churro7 said:
Is it faster than Rev a or just a different version
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When I am on Rev A I average 500k down 800k up but on eHRPD I get 1.5 to 2 down and 1 up.
eHRPD has been back for me since about last week, I am in Pomona NY.

Work in Midtown and live on Upper East Side. I have the LTE radio turned off. I've been on the eHRPD network since it went back up... i think a week ago? Before that I was on Rev A.

How to disable HSDPA on Nexus S

Any tips on disabling HSDPA on the stock Rom? I know the Galaxy S and S2 have a simple dial code menu to do this, however an easy way on the Nexus S still eludes me.
Thanks in advance.

Why not just tick the "Use 2G only" in wireless settings?

cabstrak said:
Why not just tick the "Use 2G only" in wireless settings?
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No, I want to use 3G, just not HSDPA+

I'm dying to know why.
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matt2053 said:
I'm dying to know why.
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There appears to be an issue with Samsung GS2 and Nexus S and my ISP, see: http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...Galaxy-S-II-Internet-Problems/m-p/24265#M1553
I suspect the issue has to do with this "lock/test/switch" to hsdpa, and I would like to test that theory out

xyzulu said:
No, I want to use 3G, just not HSDPA+
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Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+...

You are right, disregard that +

I'm also interested in finding a way to disable HSPA on my Nexus S. For anyone who's interested in knowing why, it's because of a long-standing, infuriating and utterly ridiculous Android bug that supposedly leads to the watchdog service to think that the PDP context has gone down, causing it to ask for a new one. Naturally, the 3G network doesn't allow it, and all hell breaks loose.
How they manage to miss crap like this, I'll never know. The Android kernel source code in question even has a comment in it identifying it as a kludge.

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You are right, disregard that +
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I think that's only partially true. NS caps at 7.2mb's while a myTouch 4G caps at 11.something. Anyways, they both still use the same HSPA+ network. My friends NS gets about 4-5mb's down, which is about the same that I get on my myTouch 4G in Los Angeles.
So I think the NS still gets HSPA+, it's just capped lower than TMO's 4G phones that's all.

mackster248 said:
I think that's only partially true. NS caps at 7.2mb's while a myTouch 4G caps at 11.something. Anyways, they both still use the same HSPA+ network. My friends NS gets about 4-5mb's down, which is about the same that I get on my myTouch 4G in Los Angeles.
So I think the NS still gets HSPA+, it's just capped lower than TMO's 4G phones that's all.
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the ns gets hspa not hspa+. it uses the hspa+ network, but is still hspa.

No offence, but how is any of this related to the issue at hand?

I think you have to disable the data connection altogether or go back to 2G

Unfortunately that's not an option. I still need a data connection, but my carrier has extremely poor 2G coverage in my area. I've read that it is possible to modify the build.prop file to disable HSPA while leaving 3G active, but as I understand it this requires your phone to be rooted. Can anyone clarify on this?

TeraByte911 said:
Unfortunately that's not an option. I still need a data connection, but my carrier has extremely poor 2G coverage in my area. I've read that it is possible to modify the build.prop file to disable HSPA while leaving 3G active, but as I understand it this requires your phone to be rooted. Can anyone clarify on this?
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hspa is 3G

Have we not already had this debate? 3G is WCDMA, which is not HSPA. HSPA is 3.5G.

T-Mobile no LTE

I had trouble activating my SIM earlier. It did not want to activate when i did initial set up on the device. So I skipped thinking that i can activate it after set up. So for about an hour it would not connect to T-Mobiles network, then it finally did, with bad signal. All i am able to get is mainly 3G and H data signal, no LTE/4G like i am paying for.
has anyone had a similar problem before? Do you think this can be a bad SIM? Any help is appreciated.

Sorry to hear about your problem my phone isn't here yet so I can not give insights yet but will let you know if anything arises

Getting the same problem here, not getting LTE only H... this is my first time with a LTE phone so maybe my area doesn't have LTE, going to Uni tmrw and see if i get LTE there (which is should)
I like in Central Jersey so don't know if they have LTE there, i am pretty sure they have it in Northern Jersey, specially the Newark, Jersey City, NYC area's

U have lte in your area?
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Try setting your APN to fast.t-mobile.com instead of epc.t-mobile.com

Yes. You can do a zip code search on there coverage. My zip is 37075 its got great coverage. I feel its a SIM problem.
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T-Mobile does NOT have nationwide LTE so theres no guarantee that you actually have LTE where you are. Best to make sure of that before you do anything else.
And just so you know, their coverage site does not distinguish between LTE and HSPA+ since they consider both 4G.

No LTE here on a new T-Mobile account. My roommate has it on his S4. I'm hoping it just takes time to provision. Using fast.t-mobile.com

i get lte anywhere i go..im in miami

LTE is not a huge deal as long as I get HSPA+ its fast where I am. It shows Excellent coverage in my area, so yes I may not get Real LTE, but i should get good HSPA+ and cell service. Right?
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Try setting the preferred network to LTE. No clue if this will work on a Nexus 5, but it works on a Nexus 4. Even with the appropriate hacks, I only get LTE in my area when I do the following.
1. Enter *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer
2. Go to "Phone information"
3. Change the "Set preferred network type:" dropdown to "LTE only".

LTE started working after about 4 hours after setting up my new T-Mobile account.

Farva0412 said:
I had trouble activating my SIM earlier. It did not want to activate when i did initial set up on the device. So I skipped thinking that i can activate it after set up. So for about an hour it would not connect to T-Mobiles network, then it finally did, with bad signal. All i am able to get is mainly 3G and H data signal, no LTE/4G like i am paying for.
has anyone had a similar problem before? Do you think this can be a bad SIM? Any help is appreciated.
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What apn do you have? Fast.t-mobile.com
Mines been working great all day.

Azmuh said:
Getting the same problem here, not getting LTE only H... this is my first time with a LTE phone so maybe my area doesn't have LTE, going to Uni tmrw and see if i get LTE there (which is should)
I like in Central Jersey so don't know if they have LTE there, i am pretty sure they have it in Northern Jersey, specially the Newark, Jersey City, NYC area's
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I live in Sayreville as well, same issue. No LTE. I'm assuming it's just the coverage. I'll find out on my commute to work tomorrow.

chakra said:
What apn do you have? Fast.t-mobile.com
Mines been working great all day.
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I have Fast.t-mobile.com APN. I live in Nashville. It just may be my house. I am going out tomorrow will do more testing.
jimgreco said:
I live in Sayreville as well, same issue. No LTE. I'm assuming it's just the coverage. I'll find out on my commute to work tomorrow.
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I live in Nashville, well the outskirts. I may not have LTE but the HSPA+ should be decent. Like I said above it may be my house. I get crap wifi reception in here so thats probably the reason.

maramos said:
LTE started working after about 4 hours after setting up my new T-Mobile account.
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What city are you in?

Farva0412 said:
What city are you in?
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Brooklyn

maramos said:
LTE started working after about 4 hours after setting up my new T-Mobile account.
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maramos said:
Brooklyn
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Yep. Thats why you got LTE. Still Rolling out in my area. I am actually not upset about it. The HSPA+ is pretty dang good.

I've been in LTE since I turned on my phone. I'm in Connecticut
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My N5 flips between HSPA+ and LTE pretty much without rhyme or reason. Interestingly, HSPA+ is about as fast down most of the time, but of course LTE is faster uploading.
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N5 chooses hspa+ over LTE ??

This is my first time with LTE phone and it seems like at times I have to go into mobile networks and select 3g then select LTE again for the LTE symbol to pop up? I'm on straight talk and just didn't know if this was normal or if the phone will select hspa signal if its better than the LTE signal ?
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i think by default it will when idle fall back to the strongest network cause it saves battery.
but when you need data it will attempt to switch to the fastest available.
cant say for sure but this is what appears to happen on all my phones falls back to 3g and when data is needed it shifts to HSPA+

newtonfb said:
This is my first time with LTE phone and it seems like at times I have to go into mobile networks and select 3g then select LTE again for the LTE symbol to pop up? I'm on straight talk and just didn't know if this was normal or if the phone will select hspa signal if its better than the LTE signal ?
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I'm getting the same behavior on T-Mobile. My Nexus 4, which was never intended to have its LTE radio used, would stay on LTE, come hell or high water, while I'm in the city and fight to keep it as I left. The Nexus 5 seems picky about it's LTE and only uses it if it deems it good enough. If LTE gets 2 bars or lower, it goes back to HSPA. If you force "LTE only" under the secret dialer menu, it will use its LTE, but when you switch it back to LTE/GSM (PRL), it drops LTE and uses HSPA+. I'm like, "The hell is your problem, your highness?"
I had high hopes driving into work today. I was expecting it to get on LTE much sooner, but it didn't switch until I was deep within the city until I entered the parking structure (which my N4 would still have LTE). While I sit here at work, it refuses to switch to LTE while in the building where my N4, in the same spot, would be happily on LTE.
I just don't get it. I thought LTE would be much better on this device, instead it is worse. I feel like this is a bug of some sort. We are in an age where carriers will begin shutting down their legacy networks (of course, T-Mo is nowhere near as ready), and this phone treats LTE like Sprint WiMax!

Not sure about straight talk but I'm in lte with att if I'm in a lte area.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.

AndroidKills said:
Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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I suppose I should re-flash my phone then. It's just silly how my phone keeps preferring HSPA+ over LTE. When I had LTE enabled on my Nexus 4, my battery life really didn't change. I suppose it had, but it wasn't perceptible to me.

I've had really good luck with it connecting to an LTE network when inside of a LTE area.
However this morning I was streaming from soundcloud while driving and I was 10 minutes into the city with LTE coverage and it would switch. As soon as I ran speedtest it switched. So I believe what was said up above to be true. It needs a good reason probably too switch if your current network mode is doing fine for your current data needs/battery.
I did read this phone is using Qualcomm s news LTE chip which saves power. That could probably play a role.
Either way I'm totally fine with it because it responded to my need of a lot of data instantly by switching to LTE when I ran speed test.
So hey if it saves me battery and h+ is enough for streaming from soundcloud I'm not going to argue with it.
Hold this helps.
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Couple of things to keep in mind.
One, your phone will say 3g when not using LTE or HSPA+. This is to save battery, it only shows LTE or H when you are downloading something, or loading a webpage.
Secondly, I have noticed my phone will choose a strong HSPA+ signal over a weak LTE signal. At home, I have a solid LTE connection, so it always says LTE, but at work it switches back and forth from 1 bar of LTE to full bars of HSPA+. Speed wise, they are still comparable, at around 5-6mb/s. At home though, my LTE is around 40mb/s.
Hope this helps.

ArkAngel06 said:
Couple of things to keep in mind.
One, your phone will say 3g when not using LTE or HSPA+. This is to save battery, it only shows LTE or H when you are downloading something, or loading a webpage.
Secondly, I have noticed my phone will choose a strong HSPA+ signal over a weak LTE signal. At home, I have a solid LTE connection, so it always says LTE, but at work it switches back and forth from 1 bar of LTE to full bars of HSPA+. Speed wise, they are still comparable, at around 5-6mb/s. At home though, my LTE is around 40mb/s.
Hope this helps.
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So, my Nexus 4 keeping its LTE active all the time except for when making/receiving calls was a "bug" of the hacked radio then? I'm not being sarcastic, I just never owned a true LTE phone before, but my friend who has a Nexus 5 says his LTE has been staying on. It really doesn't make sense for LTE to behave this way as it will replace the legacy networks at some point in the future in which you won't have anything else to fall back to.

Oddly, I haven't noticed this at all. I'm on t-mobile, and my nexus 5 defaults to LTE when I have LTE selected as preferred connection. It doesn't switch to 3g during dormancy as far as I can tell (when I turn the screen back on, its already on LTE).

dijit4l said:
I'm getting the same behavior on T-Mobile. My Nexus 4, which was never intended to have its LTE radio used, would stay on LTE, come hell or high water, while I'm in the city and fight to keep it as I left. The Nexus 5 seems picky about it's LTE and only uses it if it deems it good enough. If LTE gets 2 bars or lower, it goes back to HSPA. If you force "LTE only" under the secret dialer menu, it will use its LTE, but when you switch it back to LTE/GSM (PRL), it drops LTE and uses HSPA+. I'm like, "The hell is your problem, your highness?"
I had high hopes driving into work today. I was expecting it to get on LTE much sooner, but it didn't switch until I was deep within the city until I entered the parking structure (which my N4 would still have LTE). While I sit here at work, it refuses to switch to LTE while in the building where my N4, in the same spot, would be happily on LTE.
I just don't get it. I thought LTE would be much better on this device, instead it is worse. I feel like this is a bug of some sort. We are in an age where carriers will begin shutting down their legacy networks (of course, T-Mo is nowhere near as ready), and this phone treats LTE like Sprint WiMax!
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If you don't mind, would you share how to force LTE only under the secret dialer menu?
Thanks.
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I think I found it with the code *#*#4636*#*# -> phone information -> set preferred network type: LTE only
When I do this and reboot, my bars just disappear, and my APN in my mobile network settings disappears too. I'm using net10.
Anybody know a fix to this?

Megiddo2000 said:
If you don't mind, would you share how to force LTE only under the secret dialer menu?
Thanks.
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I think I found it with the code *#*#4636*#*# -> phone information -> set preferred network type: LTE only
When I do this and reboot, my bars just disappear, and my APN in my mobile network settings disappears too. I'm using net10.
Anybody know a fix to this?
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I don't have to reboot, myself. When I force LTE only, the phone drops HSPA and goes to LTE.
I'd say put it back to GSM/LTE Only (PRL) and then reset your APN settings.

dijit4l said:
I don't have to reboot, myself. When I force LTE only, the phone drops HSPA and goes to LTE.
I'd say put it back to GSM/LTE Only (PRL) and then reset your APN settings.
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when i try dialing that number it says "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
What's wrong?

_untitled_ said:
when i try dialing that number it says "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
What's wrong?
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woops, my bad. the code is:
*#*#4636#*#*
(forgot to flip the hashtag asterik in the back)