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Okay I am staring this thread because there are mixed answers in the official update thread and this might give one spot for noobs like me that are not flash addicts a place to find the quick answer.
Here is my setup:I am rooted, running a bone stock JH7 rom, ROM Manager installed, Circle Battery Mod installed, other than that no custom kernels, modems, radios, etc. I do have a couple programs that require root access like ROM Manager, AdFree, and ClockSync. Already installed kies mini and have it all set up per the instructions on samsung's website. Just waiting for the update to go live.
Here are my questions:
1) Do I need to unroot?
2) Do I or should I uninstall any apps that require root access or change the recovery image (ROM Manager/Clockwork Recovery)
3) Should I remove both my external SD and my SIM prior to flashing?
4) What data will I lose and how do I back it up? (I have read that SD cards are left alone just system data like call logs, sms, contacts, email setup, saved passwords are lost) I have Lookout installed so I know my contacts are backed up.
5) Could someone way smarter than me please do a quick write up that is more detailed on the steps needed to complete this update AND keep all your data? I don't mind reinstalling apps (just hope I don't lose all of my angry birds progress )
All of these questions are not address in any of the "official" information other than "you should back up any data you don't want to lose" but gives no steps on how to do it.
Same question here, I'm rooted with TiBU and voodoo lagfix and that's it., well besides deleting all bloatware. Still on eclair jh7. Wish I had done lagfix months ago, but I don't have a computer.
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same here, anyone guys help us out?ill add mine, I also installed OCLF by ryanz, do I need to undo the lagfix? or better to restore factory reset the phone before the update tom? ty, nooobs here >.<
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If you have a modded phone the smart thing would be to wait at least a few days before installing the update in case the rollout doesn't go as planned. These are the kind of things AT$T has probably been dreading as far as Froyo is concerned because I'm sure that come tomorrow their customer service lines are gonna be blazing like a CA wildfire due to issues with not completely stock phones and thousands of different configurations causing update glitches. I wouldn't be in such a hurry to update until I see how it goes for the "gotta have it now" sheep taking the first plunge.
lyrad12 said:
same here, anyone guys help us out?ill add mine, I also installed OCLF by ryanz, do I need to undo the lagfix? or better to restore factory reset the phone before the update tom? ty, nooobs here >.<
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Remember OCLF is bad, Mmmkay? Better lagfixes such as Voodoo and ULF
All lag fix should be removed. Otherwise, you will very likely end up with a bricked phone.
You can install Kies Mini now and connect your phone. If your phone is recognized without problem, you're good to go. Kies Mini is your only way to update the firmware.
I can't answer most of your questions, but I will recommend getting Titanium Backup. You can at least backup your app data since you're so concerned about your Angry Birds score. I think you can probably restore that after flash.
sircaper said:
I can't answer most of your questions, but I will recommend getting Titanium Backup. You can at least backup your app data since you're so concerned about your Angry Birds score. I think you can probably restore that after flash.
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I lost my angry bird scores when my phone did a soft brick lol. I'm just saying. I had it backed up with tbu. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted
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Caliesv said:
I lost my angry bird scores when my phone did a soft brick lol. I'm just saying. I had it backed up with tbu. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted
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Did you copy the TiBU folder to your PC after doing a batch backup of your apps? That's the only way to reliably save a backup.
Miami_Son said:
Did you copy the TiBU folder to your PC after doing a batch backup of your apps? That's the only way to reliably save a backup.
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No. lol. I was going to, then my phone just stopped working in the middle of the day. But ima deff do that when I get home b4 froyo.
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Not to be a negative Nancy, I understand some want to stay as close as possible to stock, but I'd just wait for a custom ROM to be built that de-bloats, adds speed, better GPS, etc... Cog 4 has a really stock look, and works really well; check it out. And with time there will only be others that will improve on the great ROM's we already have!
Caliesv said:
No. lol. I was going to, then my phone just stopped working in the middle of the day. But ima deff do that when I get home b4 froyo.
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The other smart thing to do would be locate the TiBu backup folder on the external SD card. That way even a brick requiring reformatting the internal sdcard partition can be fully recovered from. Just take out the external card while restoring to stock, then root, get TiBu, point it to the reinserted external sd card, and boom, back in business.
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rajendra82 said:
The other smart thing to do would be locate the TiBu backup folder on the external SD card. That way even a brick requiring reformatting the internal sdcard partition can be fully recovered from. Just take out the external card while restoring to stock, then root, get TiBu, point it to the reinserted external sd card, and boom, back in business.
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Nice. Thanx for the info. Will do
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hmm do you think it is better to do the factory data reset before I update to froyo?coz I installed the oclf ( too late >.< )and I dnt know how to disable it, I'm in stock, never tried to flash rom, but rooted, my internal memord is now is 98mb, sorry I'm noob
foxbat121 said:
All lag fix should be removed. Otherwise, you will very likely end up with a bricked phone.
You can install Kies Mini now and connect your phone. If your phone is recognized without problem, you're good to go. Kies Mini is your only way to update the firmware.
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lyrad12 said:
hmm do you think it is better to do the factory data reset before I update to froyo?coz I installed the oclf ( too late >.< )and I dnt know how to disable it, I'm in stock, never tried to flash rom, but rooted, my internal memord is now is 98mb, sorry I'm noob
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You should use OCLF app to remove the lag fix. Don't do factory reset or flash another ROM. You may brick your phone that way. That's why I don't use any lagfix.
oh ok ill give it a shot, thnx man!
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lyrad12 said:
oh ok ill give it a shot, thnx man!
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Yes You should be a bone stock when updating. No lagfixes, custom kernel, nothing.
All questions for the 2.2 update are in the main thread
I hope this is in the right place, I just got the Sensation after a turbulent 1 1/2 yrs with my OG MyTouch3G. Does anybody know how to restore my backup with no root access on the Sensation? TIA
You don't without root..... i am taking this as an opportunity for a clean load of apps...
Mr3G said:
I hope this is in the right place, I just got the Sensation after a turbulent 1 1/2 yrs with my OG MyTouch3G. Does anybody know how to restore my backup with no root access on the Sensation? TIA
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mybackup or mybackup pro from the Market is your answer... GET IT!
If you have access to your old phone, here's what I did:
Pull all apps from /data/app(-private)
Clean out what you dont want anymore
Download Android Commander
Make sure USB Debugging is enabled
Go to the directory you pulled your apps to and check what you want installed
RickCain said:
You don't without root..... i am taking this as an opportunity for a clean load of apps...
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I backed up all of my apps on my G2X using Titanium. Once I installed that SD card into my Sensation, all of my apps magically disappeared. I didn't think it would happen without Root but it did. I really didn't want it to since I like starting fresh with new phones so I had to do a reset. It did work though.
Thanks for input fellas, I'll just do a clean install of all of my apps.
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Hi
I just bought a new HTC. Do u know if there is a pc / laptop application from which i can take a complete "As-is" image of the phone?
I want this just in case if i mess up playing with the mobile, i can use the PC application and restore the complete image as i bought using USB connecting to
phone.
Thanks
If you mean after you've set it up(apps and personal config) on the stock rom, no there isn't a way.
Thanks
Is there way to get the original ROM / Image? let us i do not want the apps and personal config thru PC application connecting thru USB?
sivgan said:
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Is there way to get the original ROM / Image? let us i do not want the apps and personal config thru PC application connecting thru USB?
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If you look in bubbys simple one click thread or the hack kit thread, there are links to the stock RUU. You can run the RUU from your PC through USB to phone or through hboot.
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I'll add to the above by saying, once you're rooted, it's a different story.
At that point you can flash clockwork recovery, which will allow you to back-up your phones state at that time, which is what you're asking to do now.
The difference is there's no way of doing it to the phone out of the box... As at the point it's not rooted, and the mechanism of backing up in the manner to which you refer is only available with a custom recovery, which is only available on rooted phones with s-Off.
It's a shame, as I wouldn't have minded doing the same thing back before I rooted, but... No go.
A hard reset will restore your phone as you bought it. If you want to save apps and data, there are apps for backing up. You would just do restores after the hard reset.
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fernandezhjr said:
A hard reset will restore your phone as you bought it. If you want to save apps and data, there are apps for backing up. You would just do restores after the hard reset.
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Thanks
Will hard reset work restore it to out of box condition, even though i have a put a
different ROM?
sivgan said:
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Will hard reset work restore it to out of box condition, even though i have a put a
different ROM?
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No. The response was to a user with a stock phone already (non-rooted). If you're running a different ROM, then you're necessarily rooted and will have a tough time getting back to out-of-box condition.
Nickovtyme said:
If you look in bubbys simple one click thread or the hack kit thread, there are links to the stock RUU. You can run the RUU from your PC through USB to phone or through hboot.
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Can you please send me the link for those threads?
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Thanks
Will hard reset work restore it to out of box condition, even though i have a put a
different ROM?
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You did not state in your original post that you are planning to root. Obviously, your concern is returning the phone for warranty purposes. I have read many post where users flashed a stock rom and used the s-on tool. It may not return you to exactly like out of the box, but it would be close enough to get you thru warranty. The stock rooted rom I am using now is exactly like stock before I rooted. If it weren't for the fact that someone tinkered with the kernel name, there would be know way to tell the difference.
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You did not state in your original post that you are planning to root. Obviously, your concern is returning the phone for warranty purposes. I have read many post where users flashed a stock rom and used the s-on tool. It may not return you to exactly like out of the box, but it would be close enough to get you thru warranty. The stock rooted rom I am using now is exactly like stock before I rooted. If it weren't for the fact that someone tinkered with the kernel name, there would be know way to tell the difference.
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Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
sivgan said:
Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
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It's a 3-way chicken/egg thing. You can't do what you want without unfettered access to the main partitions on the phone. You can't get unfettered access without rooting. You can't root without installing a downgraded ROM and losing the current ROM.
sivgan said:
Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
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If you're not going to root there is no need to "store" the factory image as it is part of your rom. When you want to reset it just do a factory data reset and it will be just like it was when it came out of the box.
sivgan said:
Thanks
Can you please send me the link for those threads?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-960736.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
sivgan said:
Thanks for the reply.
I do not want root or do anything with the phone now. I just want to take a AS-IS out of box image of the phone using a PC application and store it. And then play with all phone.
Looks like from the mail threads, it is not possible. AM i correct?
I am waiting to see a response or a way and then even configure or play with my HTC inspire.
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You seem a bit confused. If you are not going to root, then my original reply would apply, a hard reset will get you back to out of the box. However, if you do not root, you will not be able to flash a custom rom.
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Can someone point me to a fullproof easy to follow guide to unroot a sensation? I have the stock rom, never changed it besides the new recovery thing. Also, will I lose anything like pics, txts, contacts, or apps?
MANTI5 said:
Can someone point me to a fullproof easy to follow guide to unroot a sensation? I have the stock rom, never changed it besides the new recovery thing. Also, will I lose anything like pics, txts, contacts, or apps?
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Firstly, yes you will lose everything.
To get your phone back to stock you will need to flash the appropriate RUU from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Once you have done that you need to follow the Revolutionary guide to get your device back to S-On. This guide can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
MANTI5 said:
Can someone point me to a fullproof easy to follow guide to unroot a sensation? I have the stock rom, never changed it besides the new recovery thing. Also, will I lose anything like pics, txts, contacts, or apps?
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Hi,
If you back all those things up onto your sd card,there is no reason why you would lose them.
malybru said:
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If you back all those things up onto your sd card,there is no reason why you would lose them.
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Obviously! But in terms of losing stuff off the phone - everything will go once the RUU is flashed.
dr9722 said:
Obviously! But in terms of losing stuff off the phone - everything will go once the RUU is flashed.
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Hi,
Sorry,I wasn't trying to be clever,but sometimes you have to "State-the-bleedin'-obvious",so that you are sure that people understand.
Thank you. I have Titanium Backup so I use that to back everything up and once I get it back to stock I have to redownload TB to restore? Also, what are the things I need to backup besides the obvious apps that will be deleted? There's a TON of things listed in TB that can be backed up. I just really want contacts, pics, and apps and don't want to miss something because it was named oddly.
Cant use TB when unrooted.
Pictures - already on the SD card.
Contacts - Export to SD card if not on your google account.
Texts - SMS backup and restore from the market.
edit: Dont think you can back up apps without root? Not sure if 'backup everything' works without root, only used TB
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Thank you. I have Titanium Backup so I use that to back everything up and once I get it back to stock I have to redownload TB to restore? Also, what are the things I need to backup besides the obvious apps that will be deleted? There's a TON of things listed in TB that can be backed up. I just really want contacts, pics, and apps and don't want to miss something because it was named oddly.
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Hi,
If you intend to unroot,then you should consider backing up your stuff with an app or program that does NOT require root.
Titanium Backup requires root..
Ok, thanks for all the help.
So my AT&T One X has touchscreen problems (apparently it's a very common issue) and a new one is on the way. I want to have my new phone setup as quickly as possible with the exact same settings as my current phone, so what is the easiest way to go about this?
I want to have my homescreen the exact way too.
I am running the stock ROM and the phone is not rooted. I'm thinking of using My Backup Pro but if there are other ways I would appreciate it.
Try doing on online nandroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
I've never tried it myself, but it's worth a shot
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Try doing on online nandroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
I've never tried it myself, but it's worth a shot
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Thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to go through the hassle of rooting my phone (tried it once before didn't work)
PixelPerfect3 said:
Thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to go through the hassle of rooting my phone (tried it once before didn't work)
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You're going to have a rough go with this without root, and a cumbersome one, I'm guessing.
EDIT: Btw, a normal nandroid and restore would be the best option in my opinion. You'd make a nandroid as you normally would, then just transfer the backup folder to the SD of the new device and restore. Nothing else would be required; it'd put everything exactly as it was on the old device.
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utkaar099 said:
Try doing on online nandroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
I've never tried it myself, but it's worth a shot
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Clockworkmod is unsupported so this would be a bad example
Op, doing this without root is near impossible
You could do an adb backup to backup your apps and data but that's it
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