Ok, so maybe this is a stupid question, maybe it isn't. Can someone please explain the key differences or strong points between the two methods of activating Clockwork Mod?
Will one method allow it to work properly and more reliably than the other?
And in the case that this IS an obscenely dumb question, I give you my apologies. ;D
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the clockworkmod you install via rom manager can only be accesssed thru rom manager. the hardware key combos will bring you to stock recovery. aka fakeflash. the nvflash kind is bootable thru hardware key combos.
Yeah I found that out the hard way lol
Thank you for your input.
Anything else?
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That is more or less it. The main advantage, and it is a big advantage to flashing via the NVFLASH method is that if something does go horribly wrong and you are unable to boot up your phone, you can still get to recovery using the hardware key combo. If you do not have this option you may be left with a brick.
even if you couldn't get it to boot fully, would you still be able to go in via adb and hit 'reboot recovery'?
When I'm in recovery and have what I want highlighted, how do I select it and make it do what I want? I'm coming from an Inc. and I would just press the track pad to make the selection.
I know this is noobish also, that's why I put it in this guys thread.
Wow I didn't know the Rom Manager version wouldn't boot via hardware keys. Since the hard way came out first, I figured it worked the same.
Weird thing is that I flashed the hard way, and it won't "Reboot to Recovery" from Rom Manager, I just get normal boot. I HAVE to use the hardware keys.
@Above = Power button selects, Volume Keys scroll.
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Hey guys just bought another captivate and cant get to the recovery menu. I know how to get to it. Works fine on my other two phones. when I press the volume keys on this new phone it will not seem to go into recovery mode. Is there another way for me to access this menu besides the volume keys as you boot.
I would return it and get one that does. It to useful a feature to not have. And jh7 is just a software fix when its really a hardware issue. Good luck. You can always use adb.
took latest update and problem has been cured. am able to access recovery menu. must have been bad firmware.
I've never had really good luck using the buttons to get to recovery. DL mode works fine but recovery is 50/50. I normally hook it up and adb reboot recovery. Or use term emulator on the phone.
Hi all. Today I just found THIS. It is apparently many months old... however it's new news to me! Hashcode has developed a bootstrap for the Droid 3 that allows you to boot into CWM from "BP Tools" in the boot selection menu (power + both volume buttons).
It warns you to not use it on ANY other phone because of key filesystem differences. So unless you want to probably flash the fxz, then don't install it. (READ: you shouldn't install it, but you'll get a big thanks if you do install it )
@lfaber06/jimbridgman: do you guys think this can be ported to the A2?
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Hi all. Today I just found THIS. It is apparently many months old... however it's new news to me! Hashcode has developed a bootstrap for the Droid 3 that allows you to boot into CWM from "BP Tools" in the boot selection menu (power + both volume buttons).
It warns you to not use it on ANY other phone because of key filesystem differences. So unless you want to probably flash the fxz, then don't install it. (READ: you shouldn't install it, but you'll get a big thanks if you do install it )
@lfaber06/jimbridgman: do you guys think this can be ported to the A2?
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No need, use the one from the razr on boot from j.y.daddy..... It has been posted and used in here for quite some time... I use it and I love it.
Here is the link to the post, to get said boot script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385283
You still need the Atrix 2 bootstrap, that is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346977
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No need, use the one from the razr on boot from j.y.daddy..... It has been posted and used in here for quite some time... I use it and I love it.
Here is the link to the post, to get said boot script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385283
You still need the Atrix 2 bootstrap, that is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346977
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I know, I have used the Razr Recover on Boot many times before.... it's just really annoying to press the "reboot" button and wait through the red "M" again in order to boot up.
The reason that this is nice is because it makes you normally boot up like it normally does, and then you can press+hold Power/Volume to get to the boot menu to choose "BP Tools."
cogeary said:
I know, I have used the Razr Recover on Boot many times before.... it's just really annoying to press the "reboot" button and wait through the red "M" again in order to boot up.
The reason that this is nice is because it makes you normally boot up like it normally does, and then you can press+hold Power/Volume to get to the boot menu to choose "BP Tools."
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Are u talking about it being in your power down menu?
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Are u talking about it being in your power down menu?
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Yes. What we have now is something that hijacks the boot every time you boot up, and if you want to keep booting you press a button. What this does is make it so that we can boot into CWM from holding power and the volume buttons and then scrolling down to "BP Tools".
However @jim I understand that we have a completely functional CWM on boot working now. It would just be really convenient to have this. I was just pointing it out for if anyone smart enough wanted to port it (i.e. nitroglycerin33... where did he go anyways? I thought he said he would continue to develop stuff for the A2?).
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Yes. What we have now is something that hijacks the boot every time you boot up, and if you want to keep booting you press a button. What this does is make it so that we can boot into CWM from holding power and the volume buttons and then scrolling down to "BP Tools".
However @jim I understand that we have a completely functional CWM on boot working now. It would just be really convenient to have this. I was just pointing it out for if anyone smart enough wanted to port it (i.e. nitroglycerin33... where did he go anyways? I thought he said he would continue to develop stuff for the A2?).
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I will talk to hashcode.... that is where safestrap came from. Right now though, since we have a working way to get to cwm on boot, this is a low priority for us.
I will pull it apart and see if it is possible. But since we are having some issues with hardware buttons in 2.3.6, I am not 100% sure right now.
Jim
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to bad with this script it seems like holding down volume and power for 5 secs doesn't work on our phones
iB4STiD said:
to bad with this script it seems like holding down volume and power for 5 secs doesn't work on our phones
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It absolutely does, that's how we get into fastboot mode... to get to the boot selection menu hold both volume buttons and power button. To go straight to fastboot hold power and volume down for a couple seconds then let go.
There are a couple other cool combinations that will freeze the bootloader and cause you to pull the batter to turn your phone on
Running CM 10.1, 06/08 Nightly
I did search the threads and google, but could not find any posts about a phone that works normally except for download and recovery.
Problems:
1. Can't boot into recovery (via apps, power menu, or manually). It gets to the boot logo, and then blank screen and resets. It will keep resetting trying to go into recovery (a battery pull will put it back to normal).
2. Can't stay in download mode. When I put the phone in download mode, it turns off after a couple seconds. I can't ODIN it if it keeps turning off.
3. Power button doesn't work properly (sometimes it works, most of the times it doesn't). Example: I press the power button to close the screen. No response. A few minutes later I might press it, and the screen will close, but come back on and this time with power menu. I took out the button to verify that it wasn't stuck, and tried pressing the actual button inside the phone with the stick. I can feel it click, but it still has the same problems. Pretty sure it's not a stuck button.
What's working:
-Everything else. If I let the phone boot normally, it loads perfectly fine and into cyanogenmod. No issues with voice/data, any apps, or instability. No battery issue. No lag. No crashes. The only issue is with the power button, and my inability to boot into recovery or go into download mode.
History:
-I was experiencing a random reboot problem (and power button issue) from an earlier nightly, and I waited a couple months for a more stable version. The CWM recovery for some reason only worked sometimes. When I did get it to work, I flashed RC5 (format and wipe data, dalvik, cache, factory reset, etc.), which fixed my reboot problem, but not my power button.
-I came across this thread: at plus.google(.com)104277415207525128383/posts/iAVpVPYqMtM and updated the radio, even though the RC5 fixed my random reboot.
-I did try flashing CWM, TWRP, and Stock recoveries (the latest ones, and from CWM/EZ recovery apps), but have not tried CWM Touch. It doesn't seem to matter, it won't boot into recovery.
Perceived Solution:
-I have a plan with Best Buy - I am considering smashing the phone and getting it replaced with a refurb, but would like to avoid that if possible.
Anyone have any ideas? I am okay with the phone as is, but I would like to be able to update CM or to another ROM in the future
Thanks for helping me out!
Can you get into recovey just long enough to do a system wipe?
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Can you get into recovey just long enough to do a system wipe?
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Thanks for responding; It doesn't boot into recovery at all. Right after holding Vol. Up, Menu + Power, I get the screen with the small text in the corner, so you know it's going to enter recovery. Then the logo appears, except after that the phone either hangs with a blank screen, shuts off, or resets itself.
I think something got corrupted, but I'm not sure how to find out what, or what steps I could take to fix it.
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Thanks for responding; It doesn't boot into recovery at all. Right after holding Vol. Up, Menu + Power, I get the screen with the small text in the corner, so you know it's going to enter recovery. Then the logo appears, except after that the phone either hangs with a blank screen, shuts off, or resets itself.
I think something got corrupted, but I'm not sure how to find out what, or what steps I could take to fix it.
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Unfortunately if you can't get into the recovery mode or the Odin mode then you would need to replace the phone. It's bricked.
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Unfortunately if you can't get into the recovery mode or the Odin mode then you would need to replace the phone. It's bricked.
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Thanks for the response.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I've never really heard or seen someone with a "functionally bricked" phone, so I'm not sure what to do.
Before I go ahead and smash it for the insurance replacement, I want to see if anyone else has any ideas..
Like I said, the phone boots normally just fine. Is there some kind of app that can flash files? Or maybe some commands I can enter in the terminal emulator?
phospholipid1 said:
Thanks for the response.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I've never really heard or seen someone with a "functionally bricked" phone, so I'm not sure what to do.
Before I go ahead and smash it for the insurance replacement, I want to see if anyone else has any ideas..
Like I said, the phone boots normally just fine. Is there some kind of app that can flash files? Or maybe some commands I can enter in the terminal emulator?
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Have you tried Odin Mobile Pro? I've never used it myself, but I've heard a lot of good things about from some friends.
It sounds to me like a faulty power button, it isn't hardbricked because your phone is able to boot into recovery and download mode. But If for some reason your power button is stuck in the on position, it will skip booting into recovery and eventually boot out of download mode. Just because the power button physically moves and clicks doesn't mean it can't get stuck, there's obviously something funny going on with it that isn't rom/kernel regulated.
You can try terminal emulator to see if it will work, but I honestly wouldn't do anything in any menu because your phone has the potential to reboot during a process and destroy your phone. Commands are:
su
reboot recovery
su
reboot download
If it's a power button issue, best buy should replace it anyways, you shouldn't have to smash it. Samsung will also fix it under your manufacturer warranty despite it being rooted.
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Thanks for responding, guys
rellomar said:
Have you tried Odin Mobile Pro? I've never used it myself, but I've heard a lot of good things about from some friends.
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Yes, I did. This brings me back into download mode, at which the phone just turns off.
BadUsername said:
It sounds to me like a faulty power button, it isn't hardbricked because your phone is able to boot into recovery and download mode. But If for some reason your power button is stuck in the on position, it will skip booting into recovery and eventually boot out of download mode. Just because the power button physically moves and clicks doesn't mean it can't get stuck, there's obviously something funny going on with it that isn't rom/kernel regulated.
You can try terminal emulator to see if it will work, but I honestly wouldn't do anything in any menu because your phone has the potential to reboot during a process and destroy your phone. Commands are:
su
reboot recovery
su
reboot download
If it's a power button issue, best buy should replace it anyways, you shouldn't have to smash it. Samsung will also fix it under your manufacturer warranty despite it being rooted.
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Thanks for the commands; they ended up just shutting the phone off.
Yeah, I did ponder the idea that even though the power button "clicked," it might not necessarily be working. I google searched "galaxy s 3 broken power button" and there was a video with a description where the guy mentioned something about the circuit always being switched "on"
But his phone experienced different symptoms than mine (because the circuit was always switched on, the phone actually restarted itself while in normal operation. This hasn't happened to me).
Is there an app for me to definitely determine which buttons are being registered as they are pressed? Similar to programs that tell you what buttons you're pressing on your keyboard.
I would take it back to Best Buy, but I just don't want to give them any reason to say it was my own fault since I rooted and put a custom ROM on it.
Haha, I'll dunk it in salt water in favor of smashing it
Thanks again for your suggestions and ideas :cyclops:
Hello everyone. I have Katkiss Kitkat #19 and TWRP recovery 6.something but I can't remember which. Anyway, I use to reboot into recovery by holding down the Volume down, then press Volume up when prompted to get into recovery. Now the power and volume buttons are completely busted. I can't press any of them. And I need to go into recovery to flash the new Rom.
So, here is what I tried:
1. Rom Toolbox. I tried to "Reboot into recovery" option but it just reboots the ddevice.
2. Terminal emulator: su reboot recovery, it says reboot: no such order
3. Tried to hook it to my laptop and use ADB, but no devices attached. I have Windows 8.1 64 bit. I have Android drivers installed and in the device manager it say Asus ADB and it shows Asus in the "safely remove" but I still can't see it in the My computer. I have USB debugging on and it asked me to allow my laptop keys and I agreed. Still, ADB doesn't work.
I don't know what else can I do. I can't go into recovery, bootloader or APX mode without the power and volume buttons. Is there anything i can do, or am I stuck here?
Any help will be greatly appreciated...:crying:
There's a few different apps that let you boot to recovery
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
More
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=reboot to recovery&c=apps
When you say the power and volume buttons are completely busted, have you tried taking the plastic bezel off and pressing the micro buttons under the normal silver ones ?
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There's a few different apps that let you boot to recovery
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
More
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=reboot to recovery&c=apps
When you say the power and volume buttons are completely busted, have you tried taking the plastic bezel off and pressing the micro buttons under the normal silver ones ?
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I tried the first one and six from the second link and none of them work. Actually, when I was installing Xposed, I pressed reboot, but it said Reboot: No such tool. I don't know what's going on.
The problem with the power button is that my kid dropped the tablet many times and it got so many dents, so I took of the casing (or whatever it's called0 and then straightened it out, out the buttons in their places and then glued it in place. Now it's really hard to press the power button (the one underneath) but it works. But how can I do that every time I want to power off or reboot into recovery, specially if there is a boot loop. I can't do anything except pressing the power button.
That's why I wanted an easy solution at least to reboot recovery.
May be I should take off the casing one more time and try to fix the power and volume buttons one more time.
I just want to thank you for your super fast reply and taking the time to find those apps.
Thanks a lot...
In the past, while still on stock ROM,I have been using this tool to overcome the missing "reboot to recovery" option in the regular Asus power menu: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.transformer.recovery
Now I have tested it on KK #19 and this tool apparently does not reboot the tablet BUT:
when I run this tool and then reboot the tablet normally (with the power menu...) I get into recovery.
So if you are already able to reboot normally through Rom Toolbox you might try to run this one first before rebooting with Rom Toolbox.
NOTE I imagine you are perfectly aware that you are playing with fire here.
In case your tablet gets into a boot-loop while installing the new ROM, you might end up with a useless tablet. Is it really worth the risk?
Aliante said:
In the past, while still on stock ROM,I have been using this tool to overcome the missing "reboot to recovery" option in the regular Asus power menu: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.transformer.recovery
Now I have tested it on KK #19 and this tool apparently does not reboot the tablet BUT:
when I run this tool and then reboot the tablet normally (with the power menu...) I get into recovery.
So if you are already able to reboot normally through Rom Toolbox you might try to run this one first before rebooting with Rom Toolbox.
NOTE I imagine you are perfectly aware that you are playing with fire here.
In case your tablet gets into a boot-loop while installing the new ROM, you might end up with a useless tablet. Is it really worth the risk?
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OK, you did it. You got me scared, so I separated the casing in the power button part and clicked on the original button with a small screwdriver and it worked. Also the volume buttons. Now I don't know what to do. May be the buttons are broken from the inside. I'll try to see if those are sold on ebay or something. If not, I'll try to attach something to them from the underside.
Anyway, I'm really grateful that you made me take this step. I'll fix it tomorrow first thing in the morning. Well, we both know I'm not gonna sleep until I get it fixed, hahaha.
Again, thanks a lot...
I got this phone used. (Droid Razr HD) Not sure of its history. As far as I know it was all stock until today.
When I found out I could root and unlock the bootloader I did so. Then I wanted to go into recovery and make a backup (yea I know...did that backwards) I powered the device off...hit the volume rocker switch and the power button at the same time and it entered into the Boot Mode selection menu. I hit the volume down to move to the recovery option and then hit the volume up button to select recovery.
At this point the big red M & Dual Core Technology logo appears. Stays there for 1.5 minutes then disappears briefly, comes back on for 15 seconds and then boots the phone normally.
So....I downloaded and installed Rom Manager and had it flash the latest CMW Recovery, turned the phone off to access the newly flashed recovery and the phone again went to the big red M & Dual Core Technology logo set there for 1.5 minutes, disappeared briefly and then booted the phone normally.
So.....I downloaded the lasted CMW Recovery image and used ADB and Fastboot to flash the recovery. Same result. Cannot access the recovery.
So....I downloaded a Stock recovery image and used ADB and Fastboot to flash the stock recover. Same result....cannot access the recovery.
Can someone tell me what I am missing or what I am doing wrong? Or what I can do access recovery.? A rooted phone with an unlocked bootloader isn't much good if you can't access recovery.
Thanks for reading and for any advice you might be able to give.
Jeff
I believe when in the boot loader menu, you need to Volume down to your choice, then Volume up to select the highlighter choice. Pressing power just resets the phone as you experienced.
ESCollins90 said:
I believe when in the boot loader menu, you need to Volume down to your choice, then Volume up to select the highlighter choice. Pressing power just resets the phone as you experienced.
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Sorry....my op is wrong and has been corrected. You are right, the volume up selects the highlighted choice. Which is the way I was doing it, I just described it wrong.
And my problem still exists, I can't access recovery. Thanks for your reply.
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Sorry....my op is wrong and has been corrected. You are right, the volume up selects the highlighted choice. Which is the way I was doing it, I just described it wrong.
And my problem still exists, I can't access recovery. Thanks for your reply.
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If you haven't tried it already, since you seem to have ADB setup and working, try to use "adb reboot recovery" and see if you have change in luck. If not, my knowledge does not go much further, I hope someone knows how to answer this for you. I can imagine how distraught I'd be.
The only other thing is to ensure you've installed the correct recovery:
Google Dhacker29 and choose the AndroidHosting site, choose msm8960.
(I can't post url's because i've had less than 10 posts... spam thing)
Since you seem to have unlocked bootloader with the most recent case of KitKat make sure you have the "TWRP2710-RAZR-HD_M-KITKAT.img" file.
I will say I didn't use ADB to push mine, I'm not home often, I used Flashify from the Google Play Store. I had no problem with this method.
Hope you can figure it out! Good luck!
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Since you seem to have unlocked bootloader with the most recent case of KitKat make sure you have the "TWRP2710-RAZR-HD_M-KITKAT.img" file.
I will say I didn't use ADB to push mine, I'm not home often, I used Flashify from the Google Play Store. I had no problem with this method.
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Thanks!! Your 2 suggestions made the difference. Works like a charm!
jlstark1 said:
Thanks!! Your 2 suggestions made the difference. Works like a charm!
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Awesome! Enjoy your new phone!![emoji1]