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Convince me not to buy a Thunderbolt… please...

(I have Verizon)
So I see that the Bionic is going to be dual core, better resolution etc. And it’s all over the internet that it appeared on Amazon for $149 for a few hours. So I would be an idiot to get the Thunderbolt now for $199 right? I mean even if I did want the thunderbolt I should wait for the Bionic because the TB’s price will go way, way down if the Bionic is $149..!
Anyone know when the Bionic will be out? I have seen post that it could be any time, others that it will be June...

A guy I work with has been looking for a new phone for at least a year now, constantly putting it off because there is something better around the corner.
Personally I really love Sense UI on my desire HD - it seems far better than motoblur, or any of the other UI overlays I've seen.

Yeah I know all about the putting it off thing. But these are big differences. The Thunderbolt is going to be like one of the last very top single core phones... Screw that.
If all phones are 2 or 3 months from all being dual core I want to wait.
Plus the Bionic has the bigger screen res and the dual core Nvidia CPU!
These are not little differences…

HawkStream said:
Yeah I know all about the putting it off thing. But these are big differences. The Thunderbolt is going to be like one of the last very top single core phones... Screw that.
If all phones are 2 or 3 months from all being dual core I want to wait.
Plus the Bionic has the bigger screen res and the dual core Nvidia CPU!
These are not little differences…
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So what the **** was the point of this post? Jesus
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Spastic909 said:
So what the **** was the point of this post? Jesus
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Since I posted it I have convinced myself even more! Lol
And I’m waiting for a post from someone saying I should wait for the Bionic too to make me feel better about it! lol

And unlike your friend I’m not waiting for “a better phone”… Its between the Thunderbolt and the Bionic only… I guess if the Galaxy S II came out I would think about it a little, but not much…
So it’s all about when the Bionic will come out and how much it will be when it does….

does seem very much like you've made up your mind
I seem to get burnt every time I stray from HTC. The big decider for me is actually holding one in my hands and playing with it - I've been all for a certain phone til I held it and thought "wow... feels a bit cruddy" hence why I have a Desire HD rather than a Galaxy S.

drengur said:
does seem very much like you've made up your mind
I seem to get burnt every time I stray from HTC. The big decider for me is actually holding one in my hands and playing with it - I've been all for a certain phone til I held it and thought "wow... feels a bit cruddy" hence why I have a Desire HD rather than a Galaxy S.
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I appreciate that but I am not a brand loyalty guy…
I go ATI or NVIDA, Intel or AMD, Motorola or HTC, who cares… I want best bang for the buck period.
That changes all the time and so I change what I buy all the time. I have never not been "burnt" a little by any brand... They all have their pros and cons...

HawkStream said:
I appreciate that but I am not a brand loyalty guy…
I go ATI or NVIDA, Intel or AMD, Motorola or HTC, who cares… I want best bang for the buck period.
That changes all the time and so I change what I buy all the time. I have never not been "burnt" a little by any brand... They all have their pros and cons...
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I gotta agree with the HTC sentiment. You will be much better off with HTC than with Motorola or Samsung. HTC phones are just superb, in my opinion. I have an Inspire 4G (HTC Desire HD) as well as an HTC HD2 and I had an HTC HD7. All are and were (hardware wise for the HD2 and HD7) excellent and superbly reliable and well built. My Inspire is the friggin love of my gadget life. I have not ever owned a phone like the Inspire that ever impressed me as much as it has. The Thunderbolt is basically the exact same as the Inspire/Desire HD except with front facing camera and other stuff...the LTE radio, as well.
If I were going to Verizon, the Thunderbolt would be my no-thought, no-blink choice. The Bionic is pretty much Verizon's version if the Atrix from AT&T. It has had some issues and the UI isn't as smooth as Sense 2.0. Plus if you want to customize, Motorola isn't too keen on an open platform. The Bionic looks good in specs and appearance, but that only goes so far. At the end of the day, the Thunderbolt will keep impressing you.

MartyLK said:
I gotta agree with the HTC sentiment. You will be much better off with HTC than with Motorola or Samsung. HTC phones are just superb, in my opinion. I have an Inspire 4G (HTC Desire HD) as well as an HTC HD2 and I had an HTC HD7. All are and were (hardware wise for the HD2 and HD7) excellent and superbly reliable and well built. My Inspire is the friggin love of my gadget life. I have not ever owned a phone like the Inspire that ever impressed me as much as it has. The Thunderbolt is basically the exact same as the Inspire/Desire HD except with front facing camera and other stuff...the LTE radio, as well.
If I were going to Verizon, the Thunderbolt would be my no-thought, no-blink choice. The Bionic is pretty much Verizon's version if the Atrix from AT&T. It has had some issues and the UI isn't as smooth as Sense 2.0. Plus if you want to customize, Motorola isn't too keen on an open platform. The Bionic looks good in specs and appearance, but that only goes so far. At the end of the day, the Thunderbolt will keep impressing you.
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Agreed... I'm not one for brand loyalty, they all seem to have their ups and downs. HTC is on a great roll currently, and still seem to have something to prove.
My last phone was a sony and it was a horiffic letdown, as was my wifes X10. Both were some of the best around on paper. Premium price, nice design, AWFUL build quality and rotten support.
The other big plus is HTC tend to keep updating their handsets - the old desire is still getting 'em! Most other companies tend to stop caring once they have your money.

HTC is the RollsRoyce of phones

Rumor has it when the bionic comes out, it will come with new data pricing for 4G. Possibly tiered and higher rates.
You don't want the thunderbolt because its basically a refresh of the EVO. Tbolt has a better screen, 2nd generation qualcomm, better camera, more memory pre installed, new kickstand design, louder speaker, and its 4G at 30 bucks unlimited. All these reasons are not enough to get the phone now. ........sarcasm.
Get your bionic and have motoblur ... Yuck. Plus the bionic is ugly phone. Your truly going to sacrifice everything just for a first generation dual core phone?! ........besides you want a dual core dual channel phone but that's another story.

So far the only reason anyone has given to get the Thunderbolt is because they think HTC is better than Motorola. That is not a valid reason.
Anything else?

Inspire vs. Atrix, considering selling my Atrix

Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid

the fact that it doesn't have blurr should be the main reason. Alone the inspire is such a mod-able phone its not even funny. Performance wise from playing with a friends atrix and mine (not o.c.). Mine still ran smoother.
Its all about what the person wants. Specs or customization.
Not over clocked I get a good day day half of heavy use.

There have been a few devs who left the atrix for the inspire, the inspire has bigger dev community. As far as 1.8 goes, I don't think thats realistic for everyday performance. 1.5 is the performance sweet spot for most.
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I had an inspire, got rid of it BC I was a noob with android and the battery wasn't working out. Bought an atrix, and was disgusted after about a week to the point that I didn't care if the battery OJ the inspire was small - I just wanted it back. Sold my atrix, bought a new inspire and never looked back. The phone is seriously just 100 better. L
The kicker is that with certain custom roms, cm7 being the best, the battery life is equal to that of the atrix.
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yeah i bought the Galaxy S because of the "specs" Let's just say i learned my lesson on that... For me it's all about the Dev Support, and as you can see the Inspire 4G has LOTS!!!
On a side note.. I actually checked which phone was supported by CyanogenMod before purchasing..
I believe that HTC is the way Android is meant to be..

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Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
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mmm....
$199 - Atrix
- 79 - Inspire4G
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$129 Difference.
That's (2) weeks worth of Gasoline! That's what made up mind in a heartbeat!

Inspire vs Atrix
A stock Inspire runs very smoothly and very quickly. The Atrix is very fast because of the dual core processor, but that's pretty much it. Motoblur slows the phone down quite a bit and while it does seem to maintain it's responsiveness despite some lag, as I said it's still pretty laggy. HTC Sense isn't just an overlay on top of Froyo, it actually seems to enhance the experience of using an Android phone because everything seems to run so much smoother. Gaming on the Inspire isnt as good as it is on the Atrix because it's not dual core, but games for the most part run very smoothly (I've played quake 3 on mine with no issues). But yea, if you're just looking for speed, the Inspire is more than capable. It's already very fast underclocked, but its very fast overclocked as well.
This vid may help u decide if u should keep the Atrix or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFKACFIu1s

Atrix disappoints
I work at a Best Buy and a lot of people bought the Atrix on release day at my store. I, however, wanted to wait and see, plus being a huge HTC fan the Inspire was really desirable (pun intended). So yeah I got an Inspire while one of my co-workers in the Geek Squad has an Atrix, and we go back and forth. "My resolution is higher!" he says, "My screen is more vibrant and larger" I say... Then his phone lags and doesn't scroll smoothly and I laugh. Speed test side-by-side I blow him out of the water, it really ticked him off when I connected his Atrix to my 3G hotspot and Speed tested quicker than his Atrix alone. Plus with the Atrix you have to rely on Motorola to release updates, and there is no way to put CM7 or another custom ROM (as of now due to encrypted bootloader)... Not to mention the version of 2.2 on there doesn't utilize the second core (if I am incorrect let me know). Sure he can hook it up to a TV and play around, but that isn't useful...

Get rid of the atrix. For a dual core phone that thing is a straight up embarrassment to Android. No ones kidding when they say the inspire is faster with no overclock. Doing side by side tests of inspire (stock) vs both atrixs I had, the inspire won EVERY speed test I gave it. With an overclock, its not even close.
And yes the atrix IS utilizing both cores with that version of froyo that's its shipped with, and with no possible way to ever flash a kernel, don't expect it to get much faster than it is right now
Edit- and my battery life actually isn't to bad at 1.8 surprisingly. It thought it was gonna be really bad, but it turned out to be pretty good.

Update:
Bought a brand new Inspire today!
Thanks for the input everyone!
PS. If anyone is interested in my Atrix it is for sale. $400
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in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least

lonehawk2k4 said:
in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
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If it was even close to a rip off it would be passable.., but its far from it.
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plvaulter06 said:
Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
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The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.

MartyLK said:
The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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I had both the inspire and the artix
my atrix experience wasn't terrible but that might have been because of the fact i was rooted running gingerblur the best rom out right now for the atrix... i enjoyed the atrix's great battery life and fingerprint scanner but the build quality wasn't good and felt cheap to me
in my opinion if your running a stock atrix with no intention of flashing a rom to it your going to get annoyed and bored of blur..
that being said sense isn't much better for me im much more a fan of stock android or miui actually is pretty good to. I would personally get rid of the atrix and try the inspire the screen is bigger and brighter in my opinion and has a lot more of rom development the atrix

acPIZZA said:
Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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QFT. I couldn't stand how badly my back cover creaked. Nothing about that phone screamed quality to me at all, software or hardware wise.

locked bootloader= no reason to buy EVER. Even with the cool dual core you can't overclock or do any cool **** w/ roms. On top of that motoblur is a piece of junk.

[Q] What to buy?

Hi im in the process of looking for a new upgrade from my touch pro2.
I was intending to get a Desire S, due to its aluminium body and 1ghz processor. But my provider has the Motorola Atrix and Samsung Galaxy S on offer too.
All 3 phones cost the same monthly fee when bundled with the same phone plan.
What would you get? HTC Desire S, Moto Atrix or Samsung Galaxy S. My last 2 phones have been htc and Ive been very impressed with the build quality of them. I maily use the phone for web browsing, watching movies, and occasional games and do enjoy loading roms etc.. Anyone have any advice on what to get or what not to get?

i would get the moto atrix fingerprint + dualcore ownz

Don't get Moto due to locked bootloader. I had to choose between Galaxy S, Nexus S and Desire S.
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get the moto atrix!
Well Desire S has a locked bootloader too. And up to now, there are no updates about the unlocking announcement of HTC

Thanks for the advice.
Ive checked out the atrix a little on youtube and it does look nice and responsive. Seems lag free and that will be strange comming from winmo 6.5 on my htc touch pro 2 lol. The games on the atrix run very well too.
I suppose its more furture proof being dual core and I am a nvidia fanboi lol.
So the Desire S and Atrix both have locked bootloaders? So no flashing on either device untill either of the companies provide an unlock or someone hacks one?

I'd say go Desire S....(in fact I did, and I also came from a HTC WM device - topaz)
You're used to HTC phones, you obviously like the Sense look and feel and you'll get a head start with the conversion to Android having the already familiar Sense as you user interface.
Currently Desire S and Moto both have locked bootloaders but Desire S can be unlocked with XTC and will hopefully be software unlocked either by XDA Alpharev or HTC.
Good luck picking!

Yeah I do like the sense look and feel, and have been sick of trying to run android on my touch pro 2 only to have it sleep of death on me after 20 mins
Im wondering how much difference the dual core vs single core cpu in these phones would have on phone lag, especially when it comes to web browsing/navigation etc. Are most of you Desire S users happy with the power under the hood, so to speak?
Also I work in a pretty rough environment and my old touch pro 2 has dents and scratches all over it, its survived being dropped from 3mts in the air down onto concrete lol. It wont die.
Ive read the moto atrix seems plastic like, that worries me. Do you think the desire s would be pretty tough?

yagermaster said:
Yeah I do like the sense look and feel, and have been sick of trying to run android on my touch pro 2 only to have it sleep of death on me after 20 mins
Im wondering how much difference the dual core vs single core cpu in these phones would have on phone lag, especially when it comes to web browsing/navigation etc. Are most of you Desire S users happy with the power under the hood, so to speak?
Also I work in a pretty rough environment and my old touch pro 2 has dents and scratches all over it, its survived being dropped from 3mts in the air down onto concrete lol. It wont die.
Ive read the moto atrix seems plastic like, that worries me. Do you think the desire s would be pretty tough?
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Desire S seems plenty fast for me, I don't play games on the device and browsing speed is mainly determined by the network speed as oppossed to CPU power.
Screen protector and a case should be a must, even though Desire feels like a strong well made device you won't want to wreck it and it will still be smaller than your old device.

anyway u still don't know what apps for android are coming and how much cpu they'll need, so with a dual core u are more future proof than with a single core

On my opinion, I recommended to buy desire s, I moved from touch pro 2 as well , MOTO atrix's screen is bull****, don't buy it , you will loss money, galaxy s2 is best one, but price is too high at momnent, just wait couple weeks
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hmm thanks for the advice guys, ill go to a store tomorrow and compare the 2 phones builds. I am thinking ill probably go with the desire s.

yagermaster said:
Hi im in the process of looking for a new upgrade from my touch pro2.
I was intending to get a Desire S, due to its aluminium body and 1ghz processor. But my provider has the Motorola Atrix and Samsung Galaxy S on offer too.
All 3 phones cost the same monthly fee when bundled with the same phone plan.
What would you get? HTC Desire S, Moto Atrix or Samsung Galaxy S. My last 2 phones have been htc and Ive been very impressed with the build quality of them. I maily use the phone for web browsing, watching movies, and occasional games and do enjoy loading roms etc.. Anyone have any advice on what to get or what not to get?
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I am more or less on the same boat, but I'm torn between desire s, galaxy s2 and iphone 4. (the dark side is tempting a bit )
Coming from hd2 with desire rom (lost it... ) I know I will love d.s, also it is the cheapest of those above so more likely I'll get one as soon as I will leave the bath.

I had a Atrix for a while but ended up sending it back. It is a really nice device, super fast and pretty good build quality (although i'd say the Desire S is better).
The negative for me were:
1. Battery Life sucked (although the Desire isn't amazing in this area either)
2. Motoblur sucked: Really disliked the interface although Sense is also showing its age (Launcherpro ftw)
3. Apps: I've found a total of 2 apps where I can see the benefit of a dual core processor; Dungeon Defenders and Google Earth (noticeably smoother on the atrix)
4. Cost: Total cost of phone over the contract was 1/2 that of Desire S, In a few months I'm pretty sure I could pick up a dual core tablet for the difference.

One thing, I am playing the lastest gameloft games (The games that have the best graphics) and they work perfect... i dont see why i need a dual core phone?!?!
BTW Its Dungeon Hunter 2... an AWESOME game xD

Between Galaxy S and HTC Desire S I’d go for the second cause 1st I personally don’t like Samsung’s implementation of UI and menu and 2nd HTC has a more solid build.

Ive had a SGS and had nothing but problems.The phone spent more time in the repair centre than i it was with me so eventually i sold it and bought a DHD and now also own a desire s.apart from the screen size the desire s is a better all round phone imo.sgs had the motherboard changed 2 times,screen turned dull and maps was miles in accurate plus no camera flash

yagermaster said:
Hi im in the process of looking for a new upgrade from my touch pro2.
I was intending to get a Desire S, due to its aluminium body and 1ghz processor. But my provider has the Motorola Atrix and Samsung Galaxy S on offer too.
All 3 phones cost the same monthly fee when bundled with the same phone plan.
What would you get? HTC Desire S, Moto Atrix or Samsung Galaxy S. My last 2 phones have been htc and Ive been very impressed with the build quality of them. I maily use the phone for web browsing, watching movies, and occasional games and do enjoy loading roms etc.. Anyone have any advice on what to get or what not to get?
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YES! I have been offered a desire s or sgs as a backup phone.. and 'm in a dilma on which to get. i have never owned a android htc, so dont really know much about sense. on the other hand i own 2 samsung android devices (sgs2 + sgt) so i'm familiar with touchwiz etc.
i want a phone with better battery prefably... desire s or sgs?

olyloh6696 said:
YES! I have been offered a desire s or sgs as a backup phone.. and 'm in a dilma on which to get. i have never owned a android htc, so dont really know much about sense. on the other hand i own 2 samsung android devices (sgs2 + sgt) so i'm familiar with touchwiz etc.
i want a phone with better battery prefably... desire s or sgs?
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I'd say go Desire S, but then I'm biased, I think that you'll love Sense over TouchWiz in no time.

Well thanks for everyone's input. I ended up with the desire s, the atrix looked good, but I didn't like the MOTO theme. The HTC sense is much nicer looking and I'm familiar with it. So far the fone is great. I'm missing my touch pro 2 keyboard, but ill be use to the onscreen kb soon enough.
Thanks again, time to learn as much as I can about this new world of android.
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desire s 其实还是不错的
摩托罗拉 4G 其实优缺点，别看他应配置牛逼，是TFT屏幕的，不灵敏
你们外国人买iphone4 算了，反正都那么有钱的。。。擦

Motorola Atrix vs HTC Sensation?

I am thinking of buying one of the two phones and I have some questions.
Which is better overall?
I heard that Atrix with 256mb more, makes a noticable difference in speed.
About rooting, is Atrix's bootloader unlocked?
Which of the two has more support from the community (custom kernels,roms etc)?
Thank you

So, I think is a Sensation is a Better.
The Bootloader will be (or is) Unlocked.
Also HTC is realy good when you overclock him but always the battery get drained immediately.
but...
Atrix had a Better Batery and Badass GPU Tegra 2

The atrix has an unlocked bootloader and CM7 is being worked on right now. Battery life is great too. I get about 15 hours average.
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Htc will always win this battle
ADR6300

htc sensation don't have hdmi port, and have a poor processor
but have a nice job on ui
atrix have tegra zone, tegra processor, more ram, webtop, media center, hdmi port soo
htc lose this time.....only winner here is htc evo 3d

I vote for the Sensation because I played with one and was impressed. HTC hardware is usually high-end and styling is sweet. Sense is super smooth, too. However, I am still wanting an Atrix. But I wouldn't choose it over the Sensation. I would pick an Atrix if it were a choice between it and a Galaxy or Nexus S or something along those lines.

Sensation is better ya. Sense 3.0

About Atrix's custom roms, why aren't there roms like MIUI, Cyanogen and other roms that are very popular in HTC devices.
Also why there so few roms for the Atrix?

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About Atrix's custom roms, why aren't there roms like MIUI, Cyanogen and other roms that are very popular in HTC devices.
Also why there so few roms for the Atrix?
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I think the main reason is Motorola's locked bootloaders. But according to reports, Motorola is going to change that policy and begin opening up their bootloaders.

Sensation is definitely better...

Newbie, Thinking of buying a Desire S

Hi, Im thinking of getting a Desire S as my next phone. Im not exactly new to this as i had a regular Desire for about 18 months which i rooted, s-off and installed many customs roms.
I was looking for a upgrade and bought a Sensation a few weeks ago but its not for me as i find the phone abit too big. Even though its really fast, I dont find it comfortable to use.
The only phones that i can see that are similar size to the original desire is LG Optimus 2X, Motorola Atrix or Desire S. But as I want Sense, the Desire S is only the option. Even though it is not dual core, it should be much quicker than a Desire as;
- Has 50% more RAM. 768MB compared to 512​- 1GB internal memory so no need for A2SD which should make things faster​- Processor, even though its a 1GHZ i believe it can be overclocked to over 1.8GHZ and at a safe 1.4GHZ. Is this correct?​
In terms of ROMS, the Desire S has got a large collection.
Anything else that i have missed out or need to know?
Thanks

Hi, please tell me where did you find it ?
This configuration is awesome.

From what you've written there, you already know the answer as to which phone you should be getting. If you are lookin for something th same size as the Desire S then there is no real competition as faras I'm concerned - not just for design and specifications, but also for ROMs, development and user forum support on XDA
As the Nike adverts say "Just Do It!!"

Thanks guys, am I correct regarding the overclock statement I've made?

Hi.
If You are not bothered with not having the latest tech, then I would say Desire S is a good choice.
So far android experience is great on it, haven't found any real reason to go with multi core just yet.
Things You'll like - alloy unibody, size, battery life (depending on rom and useage), overall speed, quite decent main camera + front cam (skype works very well), price (I wouldn't sign for a long contract on it though).
Cons - well... battery life (still, ain't bad but more energy efficient devices are going to be in sale soon)
Good luck.

You are correct with all statements
The Desire S also has better battery life than the original, thanks to its larger capacity, and the more optimized 2nd gen CPU (which is very good for OC'ing)

I have my ds for 6 months now, and im very happy with iti had the same problem like you (the sensation was to big)
I had the choice between samsung galaxy s and desire s, and i have choosen the ds because of sense too
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Decision made, desire s it is. Just need to put my sensation on eBay now.
Also noticed that sensation xl has the same CPU as the desire s which is clocked to 1.5ghz.

I think there is a thread on here somewhere about the CPU being the same as the one in the Sensation, and i think that though it is the same model number the one in the Sensation it is a later generation model so it is designed differantly and runs at a higher speed.
The only other thing i would say is perhaps wait a month or so and see what new models HTC announce. it could be that the Desire S gets upgraded similar to the move from Desire to Desire S.
Edit heres link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459911

There is a HTC primo coming out in a few months but that only has 512mb RAM.

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Anything else that i have missed out or need to know?
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Yup, you missed something huge. THE MWC IS COMING IN LESS THAN A MONTH !!!!!! The Desire S was revealed at MWC last year. Surely, something waaaaaay better will show up this year. I LOVE my desire s, but i won't reccomend you to buy it at this time.
The Galaxy S Advance has been announced, it's roughly the same size as the Desire S (4.0 inch screen), similar price but has much better hardware (Dual core 1 Ghz CPU, Super Amoled Screen). HTC must compete with this, so somthing big (with sense ) will come at MWC. TRUST ME. Even if you don't like what comes, you can buy the Desire S later, it's not like HTC is gonna stop supplies

+1
Sadly, as much as I love my Desire S too, I can only agree with Shrome.
Unless you aren't too bothered about having the latest and greatest, and aren't a tech-head, this phone is recommended and will serve you well for basic smartphone tasks.
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olyloh6696 said:
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Sadly, as much as I love my Desire S too, I can only agree with Shrome.
Unless you aren't too bothered about having the latest and greatest, and aren't a tech-head, this phone is recommended and will serve you well for basic smartphone tasks.
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I'm sure the Desire S will serve for a lot more than just basic tasks. I know synthetic benchmarks are not a lot to go by, but considering the stock Galaxy Nexus gets 32 fps in Nenamark 2 and my Desire S gets 27 fps (without any overclock), it's somewhat reassuring and makes me believe the Desire S still has a bit of kick remaining.

shrome99 said:
Yup, you missed something huge. THE MWC IS COMING IN LESS THAN A MONTH !!!!!! The Desire S was revealed at MWC last year. Surely, something waaaaaay better will show up this year. I LOVE my desire s, but i won't reccomend you to buy it at this time.
The Galaxy S Advance has been announced, it's roughly the same size as the Desire S (4.0 inch screen), similar price but has much better hardware (Dual core 1 Ghz CPU, Super Amoled Screen). HTC must compete with this, so somthing big (with sense ) will come at MWC. TRUST ME. Even if you don't like what comes, you can buy the Desire S later, it's not like HTC is gonna stop supplies
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I believe the HTC Primo will be the replacement for the Desire S but it only has 512MB RAM.
Also, i presume the phone will be launched towards summer time and have a price of £300? Whereas the Desire S is available on ebay now for roughly half that price.

325i. said:
I believe the HTC Primo will be the replacement for the Desire S but it only has 512MB RAM.
Also, i presume the phone will be launched towards summer time and have a price of £300? Whereas the Desire S is available on ebay now for roughly half that price.
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Although the leaked specs say 512mb, I highly doubt the device would come like that.
HTC wouldn't downgrade the succesor.
Leaked specs aren't always true you know
The HD2 original leak said it has 384mb RAM. But it ended up having 448mb (576mb actually, if you unlock the hidden RAM)
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You can't be sure of any of those things( except the price, maybe). The leaks are HIGHLY unreliable. I'm 99% sure it won't have lower RAM than the Desire S if it's a successor. For all you know, it may be a succesor to Wildfire S, cost waaaay less, and the Desire S may have a different succesor entirely

Hmmm, not sure now.
When will the official release be of these phones? And when they become available, are we talking weeks/months?

325i. said:
Hmmm, not sure now.
When will the official release be of these phones? And when they become available, are we talking weeks/months?
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325i Please see my response to your other thread about coming from the old Desire. I just edited it. Noticed a worrying trend on the recent Amazon reviews.
Regarding new phones releases, it depends. If the manufacturers have any sense, they'll have the product ready to swing into the shops riding on the hype-wave from MWC. Others may want to hang back and see how their product is received before committing to getting x amount of them made.
For the first time I'm not 100% about sticking with HTC for my next phone. I just don't trust their reliability and after sales support so much any more. I buy my phones outright SIM-free and unlocked so I can't really afford to make a bad decision.
Problem is looking around at alternatives I don't yet see anything tempting, baring in mind I don't like whopping screens and not too fussed about multi-core devices. I mean if the Xperia Arc S was slightly smaller and had a front-facing camera I'd probably already be saving up for it.
The Sony (minus the Ericsson) Xperia S is just far far far too big. OK 12MP camera but I bet it still blurs if taking a moving shot. Plus is it me, or have the designers copped out? A formless, plain rectangle of a phone like SGS2. Doesn't look comfortable at all to hold, and doesn't hold a candle to the Desire S in terms of looks.
Only thing I'm certain of is I wont be selling my DS. I'll keep it around so I can stay in this section of XDA and carry on with testing and support.

yeah the desire s overclocks very well indeed.mine will run at 1.5ghz stable. its definatly a much more capable phone than the original desire and as you say there arnt many other phones that match the form you are looking for.
we also have the best section on xda with a huge selection of roms.cant go wrong really.BUY ONE!

Think ill go for the Desire S.
I also buy my phones sim free, usually slightly used ones off ebay. Ive decided to get a Desire S, if i newer/better HTC comes out, i can always put the Desire S back on ebay.