This is a sister-thread to "Battery Drain Fix" for the g2x that lists a factory reset as a possible fix to battery drain issues.
First, let me say that even if you do not currently have battery drain issues with your G2X, that doesn't mean that you're immune. My battery has been phenomenal at times, abysmal at others. I've done the factory reset and that DID help for awhile, but battery problems arose again.
I believe the problem that plagued my phone was the dreaded 50% cell standby problem. If you're unaware of this problem, essentially the issue is that "cell standby" (found under settings --> about phone --> battery use) is at or around 50% always -- in other words, it doesn't matter that the phone has fine reception, is or is not being used, or even has the signal active (that's right, the problem persists even with airplane mode activated).
While I do recommend the factory reset method (assuming that you haven't had your phone too long, as it can be a real pain to reconfigure everything if you've set it up how you like it over many weeks...), I think this alternate method is something we should all do as well. In brief, you'll want to do the following:
-open dial pad and dial *#*#4636#*#* (If Testing menu doesn't come up than click "Call" and it will come up)
-Go to Phone information
-Scroll down and you'll see preferred network type
-click it and switch it to GSM/WCDMA auto
-click back button
After taking these steps, you should see an immediate improvement to your battery drain problems, as well as much faster battery charge times. Additionally, your cell standby % should decrease dramatically.
Isn't the same effect achievable from the Network Settings? No need to go to the secret menu. Unless I'm missing something.
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Isn't the same effect achievable from the Network Settings? No need to go to the secret menu. Unless I'm missing something.
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I thought the samw but in the hidden menu it is set to wcdma preferred
switched will report tomorrow
thanx for this. hope it works
sent from my G2X with no regrets
I just changed it, hopefully it works. If it does work, thanks in advance
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Interesting. I've had mine set to 2G networks only, so I hadn't noticed. I'll switch it over as well, and see what happens. I've been getting great battery life though, so this is purely an exercise in curiosity. Regardless, the root cause of this problem has already been determined- the drivers are ****ty. CyanogenMod is liable to fix this up immensely.
I changed mine too and I will report back if I notice any improvements
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The battery reporting is terrible so cell standby could be nothing really.
I believe doing this also fixes the GsmTracker poll failure in one of the threads. At least mine is no longer red but green (in the logs)
I can personally attest to the fact that this does absolutely nothing different. I have had my phone switched between WCDMA, GSM and WCDMA/GSM auto just to see if there was any difference for the past few days. My device has battery life worse than the HTC Thunderbolt that I returned, and being only 7 days in I'm thinking about doing the same to this device. I'm definitely experiencing buyers remorse.
@TheMightiest -- did you do a factory reset first and then try this method?
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@TheMightiest -- did you do a factory reset first and then try this method?
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I've factory reset my device 5 times, just drained it, for the 5th time and recharging it as we speak. I still lose between 15-30% per hour if data is enabled...just like the HTC Thunderbolt. At least I got 19mb download with the Thunderbolt, I'm getting an average of 6mb with the G2x, which ain't bad, i'm just saying.
Mine was set on gsm only. I've just made the switch so i'll report back if there is a difference or not.
I've read a lot on the whole philosophy of "drain completely and recharge fully to maximize battery life," and from the looks of it, that method doesn't do anything for Lithium-Ion batteries, which have no memory effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery - not that wikipedia is the ultimate authority on things, but hey, it's a link at least).
Your battery sounds WAY worse than others' batteries...you should seriously consider returning it and getting a new one.
Well, my cell standby percentage has not gone down at all, but still my battery consumption is much improved.
As was stated in this thread, the battery readings may be very off the mark from actual battery life, however, that fact doesn't help explain why some of us only were getting 5-6 hours of battery life with moderate (and sometimes no) use. There obviously is a problem, and CM7 may well fix it, but the method in this thread has definitely helped my phone stay on longer...irrespective of battery readings.
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I've read a lot on the whole philosophy of "drain completely and recharge fully to maximize battery life," and from the looks of it, that method doesn't do anything for Lithium-Ion batteries, which have no memory effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery - not that wikipedia is the ultimate authority on things, but hey, it's a link at least).
Your battery sounds WAY worse than others' batteries...you should seriously consider returning it and getting a new one.
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This is not the reason people on these forums recommend draining completely and charging fully. The reason is that in order for your phone to get a semi-accurate idea of what percentage the remaining battery life is at. With this particular phone, however this is probably still a lost cause as the driver will never give an accurate approximation of remaining life.
At any rate, the full drain, full charge is a one time thing. This will also in no way extend battery life (but I haven't seen anyone on the forums claim this either). You can, however, extend battery life by keeping the charge at ~80% and keeping it as cool as possible.
On a side note, great to see yet ANOTHER battery thread
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This is not the reason people on these forums recommend draining completely and charging fully. The reason is that in order for your phone to get a semi-accurate idea of what percentage the remaining battery life is at. With this particular phone, however this is probably still a lost cause as the driver will never give an accurate approximation of remaining life.
At any rate, the full drain, full charge is a one time thing. This will also in no way extend battery life (but I haven't seen anyone on the forums claim this either). You can, however, extend battery life by keeping the charge at ~80% and keeping it as cool as possible.
On a side note, great to see yet ANOTHER battery thread
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It's amazing right - we have dual core 1Ghz processors in our smartphones with 1GB of RAM and high res screens, 4G data, etc. etc. yet battery technology hasn't advanced in years. Whoever improves battery tech is going to be the richest person in the world. Think about it.
Edit: Btw, mine was set to WCDMA preferred although in Network Settings it was on Auto so I changed it to Auto.
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It's amazing right - we have dual core 1Ghz processors in our smartphones with 1GB of RAM and high res screens, 4G data, etc. etc. yet battery technology hasn't advanced in years. Whoever improves battery tech is going to be the richest person in the world. Think about it.
Edit: Btw, mine was set to WCDMA preferred although in Network Settings it was on Auto so I changed it to Auto.
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I thought 512MB of RAM?
Can someone explain to me what WCDMA is? I am in a 2G only area. Should I select GSM only?
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I believe the problem that plagued my phone was the dreaded 50% cell standby problem. If you're unaware of this problem, essentially the issue is that "cell standby" (found under settings --> about phone --> battery use) is at or around 50% always -- in other words, it doesn't matter that the phone has fine reception, is or is not being used, or even has the signal active (that's right, the problem persists even with airplane mode activated).
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Okay. I read the original thread and it sounds like the 50% is refering to the "Time Without Signal" value when you actually click on Cell Standby. Not the value of Cell Standby itself.
My G1 running FroYo last month had at least 50% Cell Standby with only ~1% Time Without Signal and the battery lasted about 2.5 days with moderate use.
I'm not an EE so obviously, I could be wrong about this.
You sir have just received a thanks, because this could also be the cause of some of our data issues and how the phone picks up on 3G vs 4G signal. Im doing some testing regarding APN and now with this hidden menu. Have noticed my speeds are a little bit better then they were. Battery drain was not a problem for me before.
Thank you! i did this to mine and my husbands g2x's last night. seems to have fixed the switching issue
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I have searched the interwebs high and low for this one, but I haven't found another with this issue.
Phone: One XL, ATT - 4.0.3 - CleanRom 4.1 - 1.85
Was browsing using chrome this morning with my battery at 48%. Right before my eyes it flashed the "0% battery - plug in" alert for a split second before it powered off and literally had no battery.
Furthermore, this seems to have been happening 1-2 times a week for a couple months. I keep waking up in the morning to a phone w/ 0% power, despite going to bed with somewhere between 50-100% charge.
I have also experienced the problem where I hold the phone in my hand and the are a near the antennae/camera gets very warm and my battery drops at almost a percent a second until it's dead. This occurs even with Wi-Fi turned off (which I tested due to "scanning" being the perma-status of wifi when the antennae area got warm).
Coming from every iPhone generation, I really like this phone , but the battery issues are pretty substantial. (worse, dare I say than the annoying death-grip apple tried denying was even real)
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Lastly, each time, the battery meter appropriately reflects the drop of power to 0% from 50%+. I have tried reformatting phone to default RUU, upgraded to 1.85, tried newer Cleanrom, everything, no cigar. If anybody has any advice, I'd really appreciate it. I'd also be happy to provide more info if I can.
Thank You!
robenwzrdhat said:
Coming from every iPhone generation, I really like this phone , but the battery issues are pretty substantial. (worse, dare I say than the annoying death-grip apple tried denying was even real)
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Pulling the "I had an iPhone, and it was better" card is pointless, and is only going to win you enemies here.
I'd say close to half the people I know with iPhones have had battery issues, or other severe hardware issues, at some point.
Have you tried flashing a different radio? If there is a reception issue, it can be killing your battery quickly searching for the network, even while connected to WiFi.
Also, posting a screenshot of your battery usage (particulary the "large" battery graph called "History details") for us to look at may be useful to help diagnose the problem.
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Pulling the "I had an iPhone, and it was better" card is pointless, and is only going to win you enemies here.
I'd say close to half the people I know with iPhones have had battery issues, or other severe hardware issues, at some point.
Have you tried flashing a different radio? If there is a reception issue, it can be killing your battery quickly searching for the network, even while connected to WiFi.
Also, posting a screenshot of your battery usage (particulary the "large" battery graph called "History details") for us to look at may be useful to help diagnose the problem.
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forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/207174-instant-battery-drain-0-t-one-x.html
This pretty much sums up my issue. Guy just went to ATT to replace his.
Also, I'm not pulling the iPhone is better card. It isn't. Period. This phone is amazing and android is vastly superior to iOS. I hate programming in objective C anyway and though the NDK isn't exactly straightforward at least I can run native code. If anything, my complaining about iPhone's crappy hardware problems should gain me praise and camaraderie. I left iPhone and blindly made the leap to an android phone for a reason. "anything has to be better than this (except blackberry o.0)"
Would hate to try and exchange this phone with ATT, given that mine is rooted and unlocked. I'm expecting resistance, and I haven't done my homework to see if I can walk out of ATT with the latest version replacement and still unlock it. Also, I have a tiny chip on the bottom. Don't know if they'll replace it.
Edit: Also, no issues with reception (4g LTE all day). Haven't tried flashing a new radio, but that may help with the second issue. The battery just plummeting to 0% though makes absolutely no sense.
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Edit: Also, no issues with reception (4g LTE all day). Haven't tried flashing a new radio, but that may help with the second issue. The battery just plummeting to 0% though makes absolutely no sense.
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You're right, it doesn't make sense for the actual battery voltage to instantaneously drop like that. Steep line yes, vertical, I don't think its really possible. The vertical drop is likely an incorrect battery meter reading, and the phone correcting itself.
I've seen this once on my phone, and a factory reset cleared it up (never saw it again). Same with at least one other use on here. But the fact that you've flashed some ROMs and ran the RUU should have accomplished the same.
I'd still encourage you to post a screen shot of the battery usage (for several hours of use), as looking at the battery grapsh versus the bars for network signal, awake, etc. might shed some light.
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You're right, it doesn't make sense for the actual battery voltage to instantaneously drop like that. Steep line yes, vertical, I don't think its really possible. The vertical drop is likely an incorrect battery meter reading, and the phone correcting itself.
I've seen this once on my phone, and a factory reset cleared it up (never saw it again). Same with at least one other use on here. But the fact that you've flashed some ROMs and ran the RUU should have accomplished the same.
I'd still encourage you to post a screen shot of the battery usage (for several hours of use), as looking at the battery grapsh versus the bars for network signal, awake, etc. might shed some light.
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I had hoped a factory reset would solve it for me as well, but once it started happening nothing would stop it I will update the thread the next time it happens then. Just got off the phone with ATT and they'll exchange it if it doesn't have physical damage, but the small chip out of the bottom could possibly deem it out of warranty, in which case they charge the full price of the phone (509$)!
robenwzrdhat said:
Just got off the phone with ATT and they'll exchange it if it doesn't have physical damage, but the small chip out of the bottom could possibly deem it out of warranty, in which case they charge the full price of the phone (509$)!
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From what other XDA users have posted, I don't think one small ding will void your warranty, if its in good shape otherwise. Its when people try to send a phone in that is pretty beat up, or has a cracked screen or water damage, and want a warranty replacement, that they get denied.
Been having the exact same issue with my Rogers One X recently. The problem comes and goes... I woke up and found it dead twice just like you described. Sometimes it even dropped 20% of battery in a flash second.
I'm on Clean Rom V SP1. Just flashed BeastMode kernel a couple days ago and it's normal so far for two days... Just a note (it might not even be relevant), I had to use flashlight for a longer than usual period once. Not sure if the aggressive draw of battery screwed up the battery's voltage meter and thus causing this issue..
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From what other XDA users have posted, I don't think one small ding will void your warranty, if its in good shape otherwise. Its when people try to send a phone in that is pretty beat up, or has a cracked screen or water damage, and want a warranty replacement, that they get denied.
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Thanks for this. Am leery of ATT, as it's often their way or the highway.
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Been having the exact same issue with my Rogers One X recently. The problem comes and goes... I woke up and found it dead twice just like you described. Sometimes it even dropped 20% of battery in a flash second.
I'm on Clean Rom V SP1. Just flashed BeastMode kernel a couple days ago and it's normal so far for two days... Just a note (it might not even be relevant), I had to use flashlight for a longer than usual period once. Not sure if the aggressive draw of battery screwed up the battery's voltage meter and thus causing this issue..
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Hope new version of cleanrom works for you. It's a great rom. I haven't used the flashlight beyond turning it on and going "spiffy" and turning it back off, so I doubt that contributed to it. Mine started out every once in a while, then just happened more and more frequently. I don't want to leave my phone charging all night. Think I'm going to try and exchange at ATT today.
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You're right, it doesn't make sense for the actual battery voltage to instantaneously drop like that. Steep line yes, vertical, I don't think its really possible. The vertical drop is likely an incorrect battery meter reading, and the phone correcting itself.
I've seen this once on my phone, and a factory reset cleared it up (never saw it again). Same with at least one other use on here. But the fact that you've flashed some ROMs and ran the RUU should have accomplished the same.
I'd still encourage you to post a screen shot of the battery usage (for several hours of use), as looking at the battery grapsh versus the bars for network signal, awake, etc. might shed some light.
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I think the described problem looks like this (attached)
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I think the described problem looks like this (attached)
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Yup, I understand perfectly what it looks like, and I've seen it myself. I want to see a screenshot of the OP's phone, not random other people. In particular, the screen "History details" accessed when you tap the graph, which shows bar graphs for Mobile network signal, Awake time, etc.
It also seems the OP is talking about 2 completely different issues. One is the vertical drop in the %battery graph (which is probably just a metering error). The other is a steep (but not vertical) battery drainage including the phone possibly overheating. I'm more interested to see the screenshot for that case.
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Yup, I understand perfectly what it looks like, and I've seen it myself. I want to see a screenshot of the OP's phone, not random other people. In particular, the screen "History details" accessed when you tap the graph, which shows bar graphs for Mobile network signal, Awake time, etc.
It also seems the OP is talking about 2 completely different issues. One is the vertical drop in the %battery graph (which is probably just a metering error). The other is a steep (but not vertical) battery drainage including the phone possibly overheating. I'm more interested to see the screenshot for that case.
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Yes, I do mention two issues. The main one I address here is the vertical drop. And the above poster is right, that's exactly what it looks like when the battery dies. If (when) it happens again though I'll include the more detailed graph.
The secondary issue though, some have speculated is a result of the phone losing and then regaining 4g lte signal. Not sure about that one though, as it happens late at night for me. The one night I left my phone in the charger is when I discovered it in the morning. My phone was at 100% charge when I fell asleep, but when I woke it was at 80% and was very warm. It was using more power than the charger was providing, it seems, and that is when I experienced the rapid drop of a percent every second-ish after I took it off the charger. The wi-fi status was also set to "scanning" the entire time the phone was discharging until I rebooted it once it hit 10%. The issue stopped and the phone cooled off. Charged as advertised afterwards.
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Also, I went to the ATT store and since it was a core store they weren't familiar with exchanges. I got the manager though and had them take a peek at the phone and made certain they noted in my account that it's in good condition (they didn't notice care about the chips, I suppose). Replacement will be here in 6-10 days, but it will be a refurb (which surprised me). Hopefully I won't get two with the same issue.
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Yes, I do mention two issues. The main one I address here is the vertical drop. And the above poster is right, that's exactly what it looks like when the battery dies. If (when) it happens again though I'll include the more detailed graph.
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No need to post that graph. I think its just a metering error, and I don't think the "History details" graph will shed much light.
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The secondary issue though, some have speculated is a result of the phone losing and then regaining 4g lte signal.
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Could be. The "History details" graph indicates data network strength, as well as dropouts (amongst other things). So that is the one I want to see (not the graph for vertical drop).
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Could be. The "History details" graph indicates data network strength, as well as dropouts (amongst other things). So that is the one I want to see (not the graph for vertical drop).
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Will post it next time it happens!
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Will post it next time it happens!
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I've actually had this issue happen to me about once a week, and I haven't figured it out.
I used to think it was from Google Maps or some rogue app eating battery, but I've really been careful about leaving them running and it still occurs.
I'll also try and grab a battery graph next time, but it literally looks like a complete instantaneous jump from 70% or whatever to 0%.
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I've actually had this issue happen to me about once a week, and I haven't figured it out.
I used to think it was from Google Maps or some rogue app eating battery, but I've really been careful about leaving them running and it still occurs.
I'll also try and grab a battery graph next time, but it literally looks like a complete instantaneous jump from 70% or whatever to 0%.
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Not sure if this has anything to do with it, but I have had "auto-brightness" turned off since I made this post and it hasn't happened since. My phone might also have known that I ordered a replacement, so now it's trying to be on its best behavior.
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I've actually had this issue happen to me about once a week, and I haven't figured it out.
I used to think it was from Google Maps or some rogue app eating battery, but I've really been careful about leaving them running and it still occurs.
I'll also try and grab a battery graph next time, but it literally looks like a complete instantaneous jump from 70% or whatever to 0%.
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As I've already mentioned, the vertical jump is likely not related to any actual battery usage (such as a rogue app). Its probably just a metering error, and the vertical jump is the meter trying to correct itself. If the issue persists, the only solution that I have seen that helps is a factory reset.
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As I've already mentioned, the vertical jump is likely not related to any actual battery usage (such as a rogue app). Its probably just a metering error, and the vertical jump is the meter trying to correct itself. If the issue persists, the only solution that I have seen that helps is a factory reset.
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You're probably right. The other possibility is a battery failure... I hope not. I've definitely reset battery stats in recovery but I haven't done a factory reset recently. Next time I flash I will.
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You're probably right. The other possibility is a battery failure... I hope not. I've definitely reset battery stats in recovery but I haven't done a factory reset recently. Next time I flash I will.
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I doubt its a battery failure. I'm no expert on batteries or anything. But I would think that it would be impossible for the battery voltage to just drop to zero. Where would all the energy go? It would at least have to be expelled in a burst of heat or go to ground, or something. Conservation of energy says its got to go somewhere, it just can't vanish. That's what leads me to believe its just a metering error, not a real life event.
As for clearing battery stats, it really does nothing. It just clears the stats displayed on the battery usage screen, which also happens when you turn the phone off, or charge it fully. The myth of clearing battery stats was debunked a while ago: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
Either way it's really hard to tell. If it's a battery failure issue, then capacity won't be reliable. In conjunction with a metering problem, then the voltage is not really dropping, it's just reading much lower than it thought it was... which signals the phone to power down.
I'm definitely going to factory reset soon when I flash, and see what happens.
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I doubt its a battery failure. I'm no expert on batteries or anything. But I would think that it would be impossible for the battery voltage to just drop to zero. Where would all the energy go? It would at least have to be expelled in a burst of heat or go to ground, or something. Conservation of energy says its got to go somewhere, it just can't vanish. That's what leads me to believe its just a metering error, not a real life event.
As for clearing battery stats, it really does nothing. It just clears the stats displayed on the battery usage screen, which also happens when you turn the phone off, or charge it fully. The myth of clearing battery stats was debunked a while ago: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
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So I think it happened again.
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Either way it's really hard to tell. If it's a battery failure issue, then capacity won't be reliable. In conjunction with a metering problem, then the voltage is not really dropping, it's just reading much lower than it thought it was... which signals the phone to power down.
I'm definitely going to factory reset soon when I flash, and see what happens.
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Hi Guys
I'm currently on Stock Android w/ Franco Kernel, Rooted and as I was watching my battery level closer after the first few cycles, I noticed that Cell Standby was making up a huge amount of my battery consumption.
In BBS I personally don't see anything reflecting that, but as you see in the attached screenshots Cell Standby consumption is huge. I've never experienced something like that with my former phones. Could the reason be, that I have bad reception over the day?
Any sugestions what I could try to fix that?
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I'm currently on Stock Android w/ Franco Kernel, Rooted and as I was watching my battery level closer after the first few cycles, I noticed that Cell Standby was making up a huge amount of my battery consumption.
In BBS I personally don't see anything reflecting that, but as you see in the attached screenshots Cell Standby consumption is huge. I've never experienced something like that with my former phones. Could the reason be, that I have bad reception over the day?
Any sugestions what I could try to fix that?
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I'm having the exact same issue. My cell standby is at 49%. I can't even go a full work day without charging it (something I didn't have to do with my nexus 4).
I've turned mobile data off for now to see what's going on. I have friends with Nexus 5s and they're getting pretty good battery life. I might even erase my phone and start over again to see what's going on.
That's weird. Have you tried reflashing the kernel? Not sure if that'll really matter or not, but it would be worth a shot.
What is your Phone Idle time showing in comparison to your screen on time and standby time? I'm just really surprised your WLAN is showing as off. I take it that's a fix related to the kernel too? Mine is always on no matter what I do (I'm running stock though).
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That's weird. Have you tried reflashing the kernel? Not sure if that'll really matter or not, but it would be worth a shot.
What is your Phone Idle time showing in comparison to your screen on time and standby time? I'm just really surprised your WLAN is showing as off. I take it that's a fix related to the kernel too? Mine is always on no matter what I do (I'm running stock though).
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Yes, I tried reflashing the Kernel, but I guess it's not kernel related. Tonight I fully charged it and took it off the charger, and left it there for four hours. (Screenshots attached) I have Mobile Data always on, and WLAN (as I've currently no WLAN router here) as well as Location Services always off.
Everything seems about right, just the Email-sync is a little bit off the charts in terms of wakelocks. The next things I'm going to try are disabling email sync, then switching radio, and if nothing helps, a complete restart from scratch with a Factory image.
I understand that when there is poor signal the cell standby is going to drain but this seems to be a bug. Once I return to good signal the cell standby shouldn't continue consuming battery. If I forget to put my phone into airplane mode before I go into the hospital the bug will drain it no matter if I get back into good signal area shortly after. If I get into airplane mode before the bad area and turn it the radio back on after leaving the area, my battery lasts fine the rest of the day.
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Hello all.
I'm getting the feeling I'm not exactly getting the battery life I should be getting with this phone.
I had another LG G2 before the one I currently have now. I swapped it out during the 14-day return period. That one had screen flickering (which I now know that is due to content adaptive contrast etc.) and [aesthetic] the day after actually getting the phone, getting a scratch on it. However, with that day of having the phone, I felt as if I got better battery life compared to this one. That phone had Carrier IQ running on it when I didn't know anything about it. I only knew about Carrier IQ's problems once I had the current G2.
I'll post my battery results at the end of the current day from GSam, but attached are my current battery results at the given moment.
I have been using it actively since 6AM or so.
Screen at 30% brightness, WiFi on all the time. I have made the effort to disable all AT&T bloat and I have stopped Carrier IQ, LG Intelligent Agent or whatever its called and SmartCard.
I'm unrooted, totally stock (what comes out of the box). I have KNOCK ON disabled along with SlideAway if that helps.
No gaming has ever been had on this phone. Just Facebook, Messenger, and Chrome for browsing the web. I also listen to Google Play Music.
I talked on the phone with AT&T on Wednesday and they suggested a factory reset, and if it didn't fix it, to warranty the phone out...which would result in a refurbished phone and I'm kinda not okay with that because I paid for a new phone and I don't like having to get a refurbished one that is supposed to resolve my issue somehow. That's just me though.
Last night, I charged up to full while the phone was shut off. Factory reset my G2 and I still get this feeling I'm not really getting proper battery life.
Are these the type of results of what I should be getting? Not representative of a day actually out and about (which will be Monday as I have school then), rather at home. I will give stats of the end of the day use of Monday...at the end of Monday. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I have given enough info AND stats. I'm still sorta new to XDA.
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day. People mention such screen time and more (4+), with getting upwards of 30 total hours of usage etc.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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Ahh okay. I tried a similar thing where I uninstalled updates and reinstalled... Cuz I read that somewhere. But now I'm doing this. Will report back if I see any difference.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
I average %5 per hour.
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I average %5 per hour.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
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oh okay. I read people use system tuner app, but I'm not sure how as the check boxes for the running services are all grayed out so it isn't possible to uncheck them. unless a rooted phone is needed, I don't know, I can't find specific information on it.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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Okay, yeah. Nice stats. I'll see how things go so far with the past suggestion of Maps etc. but yeah I totally agree with 30% thing...its weird thinking that too. But I have adjusted...kinda.
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room
So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!
I heard good reviews about battery life of Moto G but mine's battery life is disappointing, could you please see my stats and tell me if its normal or something is wrong.
There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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Screen on time is around 4 hours, I haven't called even for a second or used my data connection yet, but I keep wifi always on because I thought it causes lesser battery drain.
How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
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I thought Wifi uses lesser battery than 3G and I expected 20 hours battery atleast.
I see your Wifi is working all the time. Are you aware of this?
In some JB Android version google implemented automatic Wifi networks scanning (probably for their purposes), even when Wifi switch swhows "disabled".
You can disable it, maybe it can save some battery: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422689,00.asp
Cheers.
Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538691
Your battery is normal with so much screen on time.
It does look disappointing,i get a lot more than that but mine is rooted and greenified and set up how i like it.
Im currently on 1d 18h and have 39% left with 4 hour screen time and that's with a mixture of wifi and 3G.
i enable airplane mode overnight though which only uses 1% in 8 hours.
I'd say that's normal battery life for this phone here's mine for today.
I'd agree with the previous post.
I've been on a WiFi network for the past 7 hours.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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LOL. I miss my old Nokia too but face it. That old Nokia had a tiny screen and did little more than phone calls and texts.
I've had a few androids and The G is by far the best in terms of battery life.
I miss my indistructable Nokia but I wouldn't go back
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Motorola is advertising this phone as all day battery phone so shouldn't it last more than 12/14 hours.
A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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Atleast the reviews said it last more than a day and I didn't used the phone under full load, just the Wifi was on all the time which uses lesser battery than 3G and I did 0 calls.
It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for different purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses only less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation to battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for differnet purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses unly less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 Parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation Battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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Yes see the gsmarena battery test I've attached, my phone doesn't even come near to its battery life
Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
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Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
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Hi that's a lot of drain i'd say theres some rogue process that runs even in airplane mode with no internet killing the battery i'll attach a screenshot of mine from last night this is with network on but WiFi and data off.
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
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Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
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My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
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My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.