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What is the most robust backup method for Xperia X10?

Hi folks
What would be the easiest and most thorough way of backing-up/syncing everything on my Xperia X10? I have read some advice on the SE website but I am unsure whether what they suggest includes absolutely everything on my phone, i.e. downloads from the Andriod Market, contacts, music, pictures, settings, etc.
I previously had a Nokia 5800 which had an in-built backup programme which made a copy of everything onto the memory card.
Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Scott

Latest firmware has a backup tool.
I didn't test it
I personally use Titanium but you need root for it.
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Thanks tux Style. What firmware version has this backup tool?
My phone has firmware version 1.6 and build number R1FA016

Yea I like the back up Sony provides in the update.
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The SE Backup Tool (and My Backup Pro too) doesn't include Shortcuts on the Homescreen (I'm using Zeam Launcher).
Does Titanium include absolutely everything?

scott2121210 said:
Thanks tux Style. What firmware version has this backup tool?
My phone has firmware version 1.6 and build number R1FA016
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I think R2BA020.
In 023 is for sure.

I have used My Backup PRO for 2 months till today and today I have tried Titanium Backup beacause I dont want to have both apps on my phone and let me tell you, this app restores your phone to the EXACT state as it were when you made backup. I mean, wallpaper, widgets, shortcuts, data, Market links, EVERYTHING, literally EVERYTHING ! I havent tried My Backup PRO with root features, without them it worked great 1 month ago when I didnt have root but I have decided to dump one of these apps since I hate to have 2 apps that do the same thing and Titanium was first choice because it has ability to uninstall stock apps after root AND it restores all apps with one click, no manual confirmation for installation. Those are 2 major and BIG advantages of Titanium Backup over MyBackup PRO.
Hope it helps

damirbusic said:
I have used My Backup PRO for 2 months till today and today I have tried Titanium Backup beacause I dont want to have both apps on my phone and let me tell you, this app restores your phone to the EXACT state as it were when you made backup. I mean, wallpaper, widgets, shortcuts, data, Market links, EVERYTHING, literally EVERYTHING ! I havent tried My Backup PRO with root features, without them it worked great 1 month ago when I didnt have root but I have decided to dump one of these apps since I hate to have 2 apps that do the same thing and Titanium was first choice because it has ability to uninstall stock apps after root AND it restores all apps with one click, no manual confirmation for installation. Those are 2 major and BIG advantages of Titanium Backup over MyBackup PRO.
Hope it helps
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Fantastic! I will give Titanium Backup a go but it certainly sounds promising. My device is not rooted but if it worked for you then I am sure the same will be for me.
Thanks again
Scott

Hm, you cant use Titanium if you are not rooted :-\ Also, non rooted phones cannot backup Market links and data in apps. For non rooted phones MyBackup PRO is the only solution and the best one, that for sure.
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Yea you are correct...I am not rooted and it therefore did not work.
I will go check out MyBackup PRO and see how I get on.
Thanks again for all your assistance.
Kind regards
Scott

I have accidentally bricked my phone do to some tests on modding
So before that I use SE backup and restore and Titanium to back up apps and data.
after re-rooting, first I use SE restore and restored basics.
and Titanium first to restore all my apk files and then selective applications of data.
Im have easily got my previous state around 95% of it
I would recommend SE backup and restore and Titanium combination strongly to any one.

What does TB backup ? Because MyBackup PRO backups SMS, contacts, call logs, apps, market links, settings, only thing that it DOES NOT backup are widgets and wallpaper. I read on other forum that Titanium does not backup SMS and contacts, WTF ?

damirbusic said:
What does TB backup ? Because MyBackup PRO backups SMS, contacts, call logs, apps, market links, settings, only thing that it DOES NOT backup are widgets and wallpaper. I read on other forum that Titanium does not backup SMS and contacts, WTF ?
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sms, contacts, call log stuff will cover by SE backup and restore.
for me, all my contacts are sync with Google mail. so i just need to sign-in, automatically all will sync with out backup.

That means that Titanium does not cover that !?!? MyBackup PRO covers all of that, I cannot believe that TB does not do that.
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damirbusic said:
That means that Titanium does not cover that !?!? MyBackup PRO covers all of that, I cannot believe that TB does not do that.
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You got to be kidding . Titanium will backup *everything*. No app without root access (such as MBP) will do the same.
SMS is called "[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage 1.6"
Contacts data is called "[Contacts/Calls] Contacts Storage 1.6"
Look at the Legend - "green" is "system service with useful data" and filter by "system" in the Backup/Restore list.

I also was really suprised when I saw this:
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/128633-mybackup-pro-need-help.html
And I have abandoned MyBackup PRO because I dont want to have 2 apps that do the same thing and TB was better because it could uninstall apps after root. But my schedule backup in TB does not work !?!? It is ON and on ignore list in Task Manager but no backup was made
EDIT: MBP also has root acces.

Well, is something strange.
The schedule is working but it seems is missing some tasks.
At least on my phone.

Nope, mine says with red letters next backup and writes date and hour but when that passes it only says next time when it is scheduled but also says "No backups yet". Really have no clue why is that so...

Is the default Backup and Restore program any good?

Hello, I have a question, I come to have a milestone, and can be done
an entire system backup using nandroid backup, there is something similar in
the xperia? like I can do if you accidentally brick the phone?
P.S: sorry for my bad inglish, google translate sucks xD

General Question

I have a general question about the AT&T apps that I uninstalled via Titanium Backup. I used Titanium Backup to first backup and then uninstall all the AT&T bloatware apps. I thought the purpose of backing them up first was so they could be reinstalled at some point. But now I find out that the backups made by titanium backup are basically worthless since I uninstalled the original apps. Now I have to try and find the apk files for all those apps if I want to reinstall them.
Is all this correct? Or is there some way to reinstall from the backup files that were saved. If not, what would be the purpose of backing them up first?

On a "normal" android device, Titanium Backup works perfectly to backup your apps and system data. But on a locked down AT&T device its only really good for removing apps after you root the phone. There is a fix that lets you install 3rd party apps but I'm not sure if that includes factory apps (my guess would be no). On a regular Android phone you can download files in your phones browser and use a program like Astro file manager to find them and install them from your SD card. So we are basically waiting for custom roms and hacks to give us the most basic Android functionality. Not cool.

Yes, I know about the AT&T lock down, and I have done the settings.db mod to get non market apps to install.
I guess my question was more about titanium backup. On several threads in here about removing AT&T bloatware using titanium they always said "make sure you back them up before uninstalling them." So I did back them up. I was thinking that the backup was so after we uninstall them, we could later re-install them if we changed our minds. But this is not the case. If you back them up, then use titanium backup to uninstall them, the backups are worthless. The only way to reinstall them is to find the apk file and then reinstall them that way.
So whats the use of backing them up before uninstalling them? And where can we find the apk's for reinstalling them if we need to return our phone for servicing? All of this should have been discussed before offering directions on how to get the bloatware off. I'm pretty new to android so I had no clue that once gone you can't get those apps back. Thats all I was saying; wondering if that is correct.

really? i had no idea, ill fix the guides.

systoxity said:
really? i had no idea, ill fix the guides.
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I dont know what the current guides say, I got my captivate on the 18th and there were several threads then about how to use Ti-backup to remove bloatware.
Its not the end of the world, the full one-click odin flash back to stock is available.
I was just rooting around inside the .tar.gz files that titanium backup creates last night. Discovered that there's no apk file hidden in there. Got me wondering whats the sense in backing up before uninstalling since now those backups are good for nothing. When I go into Ti-backup now and go to restore, the att apps are gone completely from the list.

I think people were just saying to do a backup because thats what they were used to doing on other devices. It may be able to restore everything once a custom Captivate rom comes out. You could try asking all the guys that flashed the i-9000 roms if they had any luck with it. I used it to delete wallpapers and such that were stock on my nexus one and it saved them....but my Nexus didn't have any bloatware to delete and restore so....

big99gt said:
I think people were just saying to do a backup because thats what they were used to doing on other devices. It may be able to restore everything once a custom Captivate rom comes out. You could try asking all the guys that flashed the i-9000 roms if they had any luck with it.
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Yea, I've downloaded the Odin 1-click factory restore thing and got it saved on my computer just in case.
I'm ready for some custom ROMs, I've thought about trying putting that I-9000 ROM on my phone, but it seems like a lot of work for little or no gain. I've got my phone rooted, did the settings.db mod, uninstalled all the att bloatware, got launcher pro on it; so it runs pretty well. I dont really see a need to put the I-9000 2.1 rom on it, with how much trouble it is to get on. Now if it was 2.2 or if it fixed the crappy GPS I'd jump all over it.

derek4484 said:
I dont know what the current guides say, I got my captivate on the 18th and there were several threads then about how to use Ti-backup to remove bloatware.
Its not the end of the world, the full one-click odin flash back to stock is available.
I was just rooting around inside the .tar.gz files that titanium backup creates last night. Discovered that there's no apk file hidden in there. Got me wondering whats the sense in backing up before uninstalling since now those backups are good for nothing. When I go into Ti-backup now and go to restore, the att apps are gone completely from the list.
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If you do a backup & then uninstall, it's not gone from the list. You can find them at the bottom of the list.
From what OP is saying im guessing TB isn't letting people restore from a backup?

I'm the type who waits for something to be tested and proven before I'll try it lol. My phone runs well enough and I'm not willing to risk crashing my daily driver. I think the headaches just aren't worth it. But I am grateful to all the other guys in these forums dealing with those headaches so they can try new things and learn more about our phones. Eventually they'll get it....and I'll read a forum post about a total noob (even worst than me) installing a rom or fix effortlessly on the first try...and I'll jump right on it lol. I'm not going near the i-9000 stuff for now...no proven gains and so far every version has lost functionality somewhere along the line....but it makes for good reading

systoxity said:
If you do a backup & then uninstall, it's not gone from the list. You can find them at the bottom of the list.
From what OP is saying im guessing TB isn't letting people restore from a backup?
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You're right, the uninstalled programs still show up at the bottom of the list, but if you click on it, the options are Backup, Freeze, Uninstall (dont know why, because its already been uninstalled). There is no restore or re-install.
That was my point, Ti-backup lets you uninstall an app, but it wont reinstall it from a backup that you make using it.

I backed up all the crapware just as advised. But now I cant reinstall them using TB. Please devs help us what happened to our TB crapware backups. I need them to update the phone. That seems the only way the jh7 would install
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It seems to me that there are a lot of bugs in the Captivate, even with the new GPS Update available. I have held off buying the Captivate (I want it alot!).
So I watch these and other boards to see when AT&T comes out with a Captivate that actually works to most everyone's satisfaction. (I am struggling to keep my Tilt ! alive for a little longer.)
Keep up the great work you first adopters. Its valuable to guys like me who are second adopters!
Thanks,
Dickr

titanium backup

wouldnt it be good idea to make a sticky about the fact that titanium backup causes more problems than its good for,most of the posts i have read about probs have one thing in common they all tried to restore a titanium back up now this wont work and that fc's or it just wont stop rebooting, factory reset and flash seems to always work and if ya.want a different kernel let it boot one time then install the kernel,naturally after you wiped cache and delvik again. those two ways always seem to work
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Never, ever restore system data. I bet if everyone that had a problem only hit "restore missing user apps" there wouldn't be a problem.
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Titanium backup rarely causes problems unless you restore system apps. Tibu is one of the most useful apps in the market, I would never discourage anyone from using it. It's especially helpful to have backups of an app that gets updated & then you find out the update breaks something or removes a good feature.
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Keep tb, lose rom manager
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restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm

No problems here. You just have to be smart about what you restore. There is no "one click" method.

I think we are looking at user error ... but blame the software if you must.

As others have pointed out, I've never had an issue with Titanium Backup. Great software! Just do not restore system apps + data.

lynneddington said:
Keep tb, lose rom manager
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Ha, ditto.
Can we ditch rom manager or do you have to have it installed for CWR?

now if only there was something for unrooted phones to backup before they root so they could avoid that initial loss

patdroid1 said:
restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
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Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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I have had a problem with titanium backup, but it might be a setting. I restored using Titanium Backup from my Droid Incredible with no apparent issues to my 1st Thunderbolt. I did a backup w/ both Titanium and MybackupPro before swapping out my Thunderbolts. I always backup twice on my phones in case something goes wrong. Oh FYI it did go wrong before I returned the Thunderbolt I copied the MyBackup, but forgot the Titanium data. This is why i always double my efforts as I always forget something.
On my 2nd Thunderbolt I started to restore MyBackupPro data after unchecking everything that was a system app. I never looked into how to have MyBackupPro only copy user apps+data since I discovered Titanium. As soon as I went into Market Place multiple app updates downloaded.
For reasons that I am not sure why I decided to do it I did a hard reset to factory defaults. I copied my incredible data back over to the 2nd Thunderbolt and did a restore. None of the apps required updating from an older backup. I'm just wondering if something didn't restore correctly to market?

Powell730 said:
Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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Thats funny because I was just reading that thread thinking "where the hell did my post go"?

This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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I'm stock and rooted. Used ROM manager to install CWR, then Titanium Pro to uninstall ROM.
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The only issue I have had with titanium backup is that when I went to restore my apps and their data it did not seem to restore any of the data, just the apps. I was a little discouraged at first but then figured maybe the original location on my old droid X might have been different then where it is on the Thunderbolt. I doubt it but that's what I keep telling myself since the app data won't restore.

Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.

Without Titanium Backup, I would not be as willing to try new ROMs. As with all things relating to rooting and flashing custom ROMs, you have to learn how to use the tools and understand their limitations.
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jrgalarza1 said:
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
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I've had the same problem when moving to a GB-based ROM. So what is this "user error" that we're committing?

cowisland said:
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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It's up to you really but that's how I do it. Just restore the data to apps that need that data and you can restore apps that didn't D/l from market and Ti will link them to the market so you'll still get updates.
I have no problem with TiBackup restoring data. When I move to GB ROMs (maybe that's just coincidence) Ti 'forgets' my settings so I have to setup my custom labels and scheduled backups again. I used to backup and restore texts (which is system data) but since switching between Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs I've gotten a separate app to do that if I want to take my SMS/MMS to my new ROM. Never backup/restore system data. I wish there was a way to exclude system data in TiBackup without also excluding uninstalled.

Transfer info from my rooted Captivate to my Infuse?

I am getting the infuse on Tuesday when it comes in FedEx. Right now I have my Captivate rooted and I have used apps to backup my Captivate when installing or updateing Roms. The apps I have been using are ones that need to have my phone rooted. I am not sure if I want to root my infuse as soon as i get it. I am wondering what are some good apps that I can backup my data with on my Captivate and transfer it to my Infuse with out having to root my Infuse?
Or is there not a way to save all my game saved data?

I personally use Mybackup root but Titanium backup is a good one too..

Unfortunately, I think root is going to be a prerequisite for you to be able to restore your previous apps. TitaniumBackup is an excellent choice. Just remember to only restore apps, never system data; and to also only restore apps that are missing rather than just batch restoring everything that you have backed up.
Rooting from my experience does nothing but open doors for you though. So, it won't hurt to give it a go. =)

Rooting and titanium backup is the easiest.... I came from a captivate too and have all my apps and data from it on my Infuse now.
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Ok so I will have to root to be a backup to save all the info. One click will work on this phone like my captivate correct?

Its funny but I'm in the same circumstance u are, my infuse should show up tomorrow. Personally my favorite app for baking up/restoring apps is titanium backup. For text my backup pro.
(my backup pro is slower with apps, & I tend to have problems with titanium correctly backing up text /call logs.
I plan on rooting my infuse, flashing a rom. Then installing them manually just because I want to start fresh.
But in the future I'll use the titanium/my backup mix again.
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veener79 said:
Ok so I will have to root to be a backup to save all the info. One click will work on this phone like my captivate correct?
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Yes, but you MUST have the Infuse drivers installed for it to work!

[Q] Titanium backup and the rooted skyrocket

Just wondering If this app is a good idea to have or do we really need it?
From what I have been reading, it is... doesn't cwm and a nandroid backup accomplish the same thing.... Also is the current version compatible with the ics leaks and all current roms?... I will continue my research but thought I'd throw this out here... It is a question.... Thanks...

Cwm backs up 95% of your setup (it doesn't catch the modem), it's also an all or nothing backup and restore. You can't selectively pick apps or data to restore. That is where titanium comes into play. You can selectively backup your apps their data and your user data (texts, mms, contacts). This is really useful if you flash new Roman. You don't have to reinstall all the apps and data from scratch. You can do batch backup and restore. Titanium also allows you to recover apps from Cwm backups. It's really useful
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Titanium works wonders with ICS. I use it after every flash. The previous post described it perfectly. Backup and restore what you want. Its a must have for a flashaholic. I highly reccomend it. You wont regret it. Oh and you can delete, freeze, and unfreeze apps that you dont use or bloatware.
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WWill MM said:
Also is the current version compatible with the ics leaks and all current roms?...
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Yes, I've used TB with the ICS leaked ROMs.

I'll third that. I was without home internet few over a month and instead of re-downloading apps and using my data I was able to just restore using TB whenever I was flashing roms. I just started using it and wonder what I did without it.

Titanium Backup is awesome if you switch out ROMS and want all your APPS back without individually re-downloading them.
You can Backup selectively or all apps at once. Restore them selectively or all apps at one.
You can even backup to Dropbox for those unique apps that you don't want to risk losing.
If you are rooted, Titanium Backup is an essential App in my opinion.
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