Hi there, to those who have one, how much of the internal 16gigs is available for app installs? 1gig or 2gigs?
Like 14gigs. Whatever the OS doesn't take up.
Zach Alt said:
Like 14gigs. Whatever the OS doesn't take up.
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Are you sure? There are no Android phones that can do that.
Galaxy S, Nexus S, etc..etc.. all have 16gigs or more "internal memory"
but only 1 or 2 gigs of it is available for the system for APP INSTALLS and the rest is partitioned out as an "internal external sd".
I know. It's new for 3.0
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I know. It's new for 3.0
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That's awesome news. I was a little worried about ordering the 16GB model, but I will just leave that space for apps and put all of my music, movies, pictures, etc. on the external card. Now I just need to find a decent micro SD card that is supported by the Transformer.
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Cool thanks.
Transformer will be my first Honeycomb.
Can you still mount this to your PC and copy stuff to it?
The Tablet will still work when mounted? (Since on Android 2.3 and less, anything on the SD/Internal SD is unusable while mounted).
If so, good job Google for finally figuring it out.
nxt said:
Cool thanks.
Transformer will be my first Honeycomb.
Can you still mount this to your PC and copy stuff to it?
The Tablet will still work when mounted? (Since on Android 2.3 and less, anything on the SD/Internal SD is unusable while mounted).
If so, good job Google for finally figuring it out.
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If you use multi-mount widget or dual-mount widget the device should still be usable, just don't mount using the built in mounts while doing so.
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Hi there, to those who have one, how much of the internal 16gigs is available for app installs? 1gig or 2gigs?
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When I bought the Xoom out of 32GB there was about 29 or 30 or so available for app installs etc.
14GB for apps in 16GB HC tablets.
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I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Makes sense.
njstein said:
My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Well, that makes sense. The phone did come with the external SD card. I never really thought about it cause the external SD card that came with my phone was corrupted. I have a 2GB external right now. By the way, I use PacRom too.
PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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Yes and no
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PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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It did come corrupted, and I didn't ask for a replacement. Doesn't seem like a big deal until I can store apps and stuff on my SD card. Also, SD cards are cheap. I just never got around to buying another one.
gilberts555 said:
I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
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I just got this phone and I'm wondering about the same thing. There are two "internal storage" bars and they show total space of 1.12 and 1.4G respectively. The SD card remains mostly unused. It seems that the internal storage is partitioned in two? It appears all the appdata is also stored on the 2nd "internal storage". How do i consolidate the two into one, and use the SD card for all the data storage?
Many thanks.
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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tommyboy8125 said:
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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So I take that the partition is permenant?
This really severaly limits the usability of the phone to that of a novice/beginner, with only <2gb for apps and another <2gb for data. Is there any script/app/etc that mounts the 2nd partition to the external SD? I've searched and Link2SD shows up a few times, something I've used on P509 (optimus T) and didn't think I would have to use it again. It works, but it's annoying when it fails. Was hoping for something cleaner than that.
I bought the phone imagining that the 4GB could be used for app and the data would go on SD..
Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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it seems all of these solution (including link2sd) isn't permenant and would screw up (and it did) after rom update. Link2sd is kinda pointless when it doesn't move the data to the external sd, and mounting scripts would just run into problems when ROM's updated.
There doesn't seem to be a very clean solution for this.. Would have been nicer if they just relied on extSD for storage.. why bother with the SD slot when you store things internally by default?
kinda frustrating really.
Well there's 4gb unformatted, which means 10% less afterwards, so 3.6gb but the system needs space, so there's another chunk gone and then system apps and whatnots are using space, as does cache etc. So we get about 2.5gb usable to us, then we install gapps and the other basics and have about 2gb left.
with a camera app that now allows storage to external, it gets a lot easier. Move big apps to external SD as with music and downloads. I did have some success with the script that swaps internal/external, but now I just get by with the occasional cleanout.
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That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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nothing is crippled, nothing is stolen, missing, or deceptive. buy a 32Gb microsd card and enjoy it.
if you applications don't use sdcard or have the option to, page the developer to change it.
all my apps, backups, videos, pictures, gpx's, waypoints, offline maps, - everything - is on my sdcard. it works fine.
Do you think Google will add SD Slot on the new nexus line or will they keep it without it so people can use more "cloud" ????
Trying to think if I should wait or not to buy a new phone
BruKnowsBest said:
Do you think Google will add SD Slot on the new nexus line or will they keep it without it so people can use more "cloud" ????
Trying to think if I should wait or not to buy a new phone
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Not adding a SD card slot is part of Google's policy for many years.
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Do you think Google will add SD Slot on the new nexus line or will they keep it without it so people can use more "cloud" ????
Trying to think if I should wait or not to buy a new phone
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SD card or not? I don't think is a problem, with a 32GB phone you have plenty of space. Now, if you like having a lot of music, photos, videos and movies it might not be enough. The SD card option is always welcome, after reading all of google reasons not to include a SD card on the nexus line up, I still don't get it. Is always nice to have some extra space.
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SD card or not? I don't think is a problem, with a 32GB phone you have plenty of space. Now, if you like having a lot of music, photos, videos and movies it might not be enough. The SD card option is always welcome, after reading all of google reasons not to include a SD card on the nexus line up, I still don't get it. Is always nice to have some extra space.
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Primokorn said:
Not adding a SD card slot is part of Google's policy for many years.
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That sucks
A nexus device with a SD Slot would be perfect
BruKnowsBest said:
That sucks
A nexus device with a SD Slot would be perfect
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I had a Galaxy S II and a Note II and I'm now more than happy to not have sd card issues or difficulties to reverse internal/external memory and so on...
32GB is enough on my end even if we can expect a 64GB model.
Primokorn said:
I had a Galaxy S II and a Note II and I'm now more than happy to not have sd card issues or difficulties to reverse internal/external memory and so on...
32GB is enough on my end even if we can expect a 64GB model.
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I had an S3. I didn't have too many issues with /extSdCard. It was nice having the extra memory but in this day and age, I no longer see the need for one as long as I have sufficient onboard space. That said, I bought the 16 GB N5 and it turned out it was not enough for me.
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I had an S3. I didn't have too many issues with /extSdCard. It was nice having the extra memory but in this day and age, I no longer see the need for one as long as I have sufficient onboard space. That said, I bought the 16 GB N5 and it turned out it was not enough for me.
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Actually I didn't have any issue with my Note II but I saw a LOT of users who were complaining about this or were wondering about how to apply such mod or how to return to a regular setup... It was a pain. We do not have this on the N5 and that's a good thing.
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Actually I didn't have any issue with my Note II but I saw a LOT of users who were complaining about this or were wondering about how to apply such mod or how to return to a regular setup... It was a pain. We do not have this on the N5 and that's a good thing.
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Yep I agree.
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Actually I didn't have any issue with my Note II but I saw a LOT of users who were complaining about this or were wondering about how to apply such mod or how to return to a regular setup... It was a pain. We do not have this on the N5 and that's a good thing.
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Yep I agree.
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I had an S4 and it was great having extra space and never had problems, the reason why I would like to have one is because last week I had a situation with my nexus 5, I tried to install the SNAPSHOT M10 (CM11) OTA and I had a Nightly version installed so it messed up my phone and I had to push another ROM thru ADB .... if I had the SD slot I could've just plugged in an SD card on the computer and copied to the card
yea, and I got the 16GB N5 too, doesn't seem to be enough
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I had an S4 and it was great having extra space and never had problems, the reason why I would like to have one is because last week I had a situation with my nexus 5, I tried to install the SNAPSHOT M10 (CM11) OTA and I had a Nightly version installed so it messed up my phone and I had to push another ROM thru ADB .... if I had the SD slot I could've just plugged in an SD card on the computer and copied to the card
yea, and I got the 16GB N5 too, doesn't seem to be enough
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You wouldn't have had to remove the sdcard. Just mount USB mass storage from recovery
adb push is only a minor inconvenience. You should be able to do it in your sleep.
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None of my phones have had one, so while I may not know what I'm missing it seems I'm fine without it. Last phone was 16GB and currently at 32GB. I only ever keep a few albums of music on at one time, and I delete most videos or games when I'm done with them.
If I did use one I would make sure to buy the fastest SD card avaiable that cost 3x as much, as I would not want it to become a bottleneck.
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You wouldn't have had to remove the sdcard. Just mount USB mass storage from recovery
adb push is only a minor inconvenience. You should be able to do it in your sleep.
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I just recently learned ADB and stuff ....I'm a noob when it comes to things like this, but that's why I love nexus devices so much, it's easier to learn, I almost bricked my Galaxy S4 trying to root it
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I just recently learned ADB and stuff ....I'm a noob when it comes to things like this, but that's why I love nexus devices so much, it's easier to learn, I almost bricked my Galaxy S4 trying to root it
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I'll never own a sammy again. Such a volatile device
Did you read my adb and fastboot thread?
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rootSU said:
I'll never own a sammy again. Such a volatile device
Did you read my adb and fastboot thread?
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VocĂȘ tem o link da thread?
Oh damn my bad I wrote that in portuguese...
Do you have the link to the thread?
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VocĂȘ tem o link da thread?
Oh damn my bad I wrote that in portuguese...
Do you have the link to the thread?
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You can get it from my signature
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You can get it from my signature
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Cool, I'll check once I am back at the office, tapatalk doesn't show signatures
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Cool, I'll check once I am back at the office, tapatalk doesn't show signatures
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Nope it doesn't.
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zcucurullo said:
SD card or not? I don't think is a problem, with a 32GB phone you have plenty of space. Now, if you like having a lot of music, photos, videos and movies it might not be enough. The SD card option is always welcome, after reading all of google reasons not to include a SD card on the nexus line up, I still don't get it. Is always nice to have some extra space.
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32gb is definitely not enough. I need that amount of space just for my apps, and AT LEAST another 32gb for my music. That's one of the main reasons why I always have an iPhone as well- more storage space. I had the 64gb iPhone 5s and it was maxed. My 32gb N5 is maxed, and I don't have a single song on it. I can't stand streaming music.
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32gb is definitely not enough. I need that amount of space just for my apps, and AT LEAST another 32gb for my music. That's one of the main reasons why I always have an iPhone as well- more storage space. I had the 64gb iPhone 5s and it was maxed. My 32gb N5 is maxed, and I don't have a single song on it. I can't stand streaming music.
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I hear you, but Google Play Music is not bad, the problem is that you need to have internet to listen to your songs... but i wanted more space for my music, I have over 80gb of music on my PC and I wanna be able to play them on my phone without having to stream it thru Play Music
I have an old iPod Video (1st gen) that I se for my music, it has 120GB and it's almost maxed with videos and music
For me, Play music just doesn't cut it. Every file I've ever listened to from Play has had horrible compression artifacts. Spotify extreme quality is passable in a pinch, but I like my lossless files. ALAC on iPod/iPhone, FLAC on everything else.
Come on this is 2014, i need at least 24gb for App storage. Looks like ill be forced to buy the note 4
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Agreed. I'd much rather import a 32GB Z3 from the UK. Now when I get my TMobile Z3, I'll have to wait for their carrier bs.
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Just stick an SD card in and use that for the compatible ones. Most big apps like games and things will happily sit on SD and download their additional data to it. If you get a nice speedy class (6 or above) you'll have no problem.
3Shirts said:
Just stick an SD card in and use that for the compatible ones. Most big apps like games and things will happily sit on SD and download their additional data to it. If you get a nice speedy class (6 or above) you'll have no problem.
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None of my games sit on the SD card. Baldur's Gate, Bard's Tale together take up over 4 GB of storage space. Not sure I've ever installed a game and it installed to the SDCard.
According to the following document,
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
only the D6616 variant will have 32 GB of internal storage. AFAIK the UK will receive the D6603.
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Just stick an SD card in and use that for the compatible ones. Most big apps like games and things will happily sit on SD and download their additional data to it. If you get a nice speedy class (6 or above) you'll have no problem.
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No they dont. Its a real problem. Sony dont do one phone that has more than 16GB in Europe. Although the old short lived xperia T did.
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I own Xperia TX and still use it.... Never has Sony done more than 16GB except for some special case imports.... the phone will be out of date by the time you can get your hands on one... worse than that is Android not allowing you to switch anything you like onto SDCard.. Its bad enough that they reserve X GB for system and not allow non critical apps to be completely stored on SDCard.
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None of my games sit on the SD card. Baldur's Gate, Bard's Tale together take up over 4 GB of storage space. Not sure I've ever installed a game and it installed to the SDCard.
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Root it, install Xposed framework and then use the Obb to SD module to store all the obb files on the SD card.
dl12345 said:
Root it, install Xposed framework and then use the Obb to SD module to store all the obb files on the SD card.
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Oooooor buy the 32GB version. It's not a question of can, I spend 8 hours a day developing. I don't want to spend my free time messing around with the inner workings of my phone.
It's worthwhile rooting and using this mod anyway, even with the 32GB version
Not if you don't have the free time!
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It's worthwhile rooting and using this mod anyway, even with the 32GB version
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Theres loads of apps you cant use if rooted, especially banking apps. You shouldnt have to root and mess about with stuff to get extra app install storage.
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jkr284 said:
Theres loads of apps you cant use if rooted, especially banking apps. You shouldnt have to root and mess about with stuff to get extra app install storage.
Sigh. If you don't want to root then don't. There's loads of apps you can't use if unrooted and I for one wouldn't dream of using a banking app on an insecure, unencrypted mobile device that is prone to be lost or stolen.
I was pointing the way to a mod that helps to save large amounts of space on internal storage. No matter how much internal storage you have, it will always free up some. It's not a replacement for larger internal storage, but a utility that performs a specific and useful function. If you don't want to use it, maybe others reading this thread might want to give it a spin.
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Is there a way to root this phone yet? I would love to. I used easy root tools for the Z2 and it made the phone so much more useable. I don't want to flash any roms or anything like that. I simply want access to some of the great root required apps in the playstore.
Thanks
You can gain root access with unlocked bootloader, check development forum.
I can't access my external SD card through root explorer. Any ideas?
This is what I'm coming up with.
Here's another shot.
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Here's another shot.
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The 5088 folder is probably your SD card. Mine was mounted as F956-4EE0 rather than ext_sd or sdcard(x)
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The 5088 folder is probably your SD card. Mine was mounted as F956-4EE0 rather than ext_sd or sdcard(x)
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Yup, that was it. Thanks.
Just for your reference, Android 6.0 now allow you to use SD card as internal storage, and if your card is fast enough, doing so will benefit you greatly.
Caution: Require formatting your card.
Don't forget to reboot after your doing so, an known bug will prevent apps behave properly after migration.
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Yup, that was it. Thanks.
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Have you integrated your SD Card with internal memory. If so, how do you find performance. I've been holding off waiting to hear from others if it's worth doing this.
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Just for your reference, Android 6.0 now allow you to use SD card as internal storage, and if your card is fast enough, doing so will benefit you greatly.
Caution: Require formatting your card.
Don't forget to reboot after your doing so, an known bug will prevent apps behave properly after migration.
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Have you integrated your SD Card with internal memory. If so, how do you find performance. I've been holding off waiting to hear from others if it's worth doing this.
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I'm using a 64G Samsung Pro SDXC, which can do sequence R/W at the speed of 70MB/s from my testing, but the system still warned me about "slow sd card, will degrade performance".
From my daily using I don't notice a big difference from Galaxy S6, whose internal storage claimed to be very fast thanks to Samsung's new tech.
But it could be I'm not sensitive enough to notice the difference.
One interesting thing I would like to mention is when using a tf reader along with this card on my nexus player, I don't get similar warning. The nexus player did warn me if I use a very outdated 2G usb drive, so how "fast" a Android 6.0 define an external storage may even vary depending on the device itself.
Is there a way to move oculus apps to sdcard? I've just started using this thing and only 14.81 Gb is left . Reminds me Htc desire times, when we had ~140 mb of internal storage.. Well apps on those days were 100 kb - 2 mb in size Now oculus eats gazillions bytes of precious internal storage.
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
If it cannot move the Oculus apps to SD, then VR is going to flop. As 32 GB (24GB actually) is really insufficient to hold regular + VR apps.
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vukis said:
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
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Give this a try http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
I went to one of my games for example and changed the storage location and it moved everything. I had to go to the application manager to do it. when you open the application in there just select the storage type which mentions internal and select internal and click move. worked like a charm
Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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Yes it works, make sure type out the disk stuff properly and migrate data at the end.
Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
Can confirm. With latest Samsung update can move regular apps to sdcard but not a single oculus app or game can move to adoptable storage.
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ned4spd8874 said:
Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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The phone should have come with 64GB option really. The SD card, even the Samsung Evo Pro+ is slow. Actually, the internal memory controler for the SD card is half the speed of what the Pro+ supports on a PC. Sad really, and it's such a sweet phone. What a shame!
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How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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Probably on purpose because running huge VR games off a (possibly) slow SD card would cause performance issues.
Link2SD
skywalkr2 said:
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
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To use the adaptable storage method you need at least a U3 card. I was about to buy one when I came across this app on google play:
Link2SD allows you to move Gear VR apps to external storage. I have moved 3 successfully and have not encounter a problem. There is a plus version which allows you to link after moving but I'm loving the free version so far!