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Sorry if this has been discussed before, but i checked some performance related threads and nobody mentioned it.
After hanging up a call, why does the entire device hang for about 10-13 seconds before I can use any other function (including making another call) ??
Anything that can be done to fix this?
Thanks for the help!
hello? I'd really appreciate someone to reply to this, just so at least I know I'm not the only one with this problem. Thanks!
did you do any radio changing?
It seems to be an issue with some radios on some phones. I have a list of radios that I use that will crash the phone after so many calls.
No, no radio changing. In fact I don't even know what that means.
The phone doesn't crash, it just hangs after a phone call for about 13 seconds like it's trying to process something. Doesn't anyone else experience this?
have you downloaded a bunch of app to run in the background of your phone?
it does sound redundant, but if you take a look at your task manager it'll show you how much of your ram is being used up. if it's somewhere high like 75% then you need to close whatever program is taking up the most memory.
another possible thing might be active sync. I heard that when active sync tries to sync while not connected it can cause slow downs and that might happen during or when you hang up a call.
good luck
Just tested it. Active directory was not on, and neither was there any background processes working according to Task Manager, and it still took 10 secs after I hung up the call before I could reuse the phone.
How long is it supposed to take for the rest of you?
a second or less. Active sync is the usual culprit for bad battery life, but it looks like something is running in teh background and making your phone calls take longer to quit.
download and install advanced config, and look in one of the settings which is called "hangup delay" or something like that default is 1500 mS (1.5 seconds) change it to 500 mS or what ever you want and see if that makes a difference
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download and install advanced config, and look in one of the settings which is called "hangup delay" or something like that default is 1500 mS (1.5 seconds) change it to 500 mS or what ever you want and see if that makes a difference
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I've done that now, and all I've done is improve the "hang time" by the number I've reduced the "hangup delay" by. The hang-up delay was originally 3000, and I reduced it to 1000, so my "hang time" is reduced by 2 seconds, but I still have to wait around 9-10 seconds before the phone is usable again.
How come no-one else is experiencing this? There's nothing special running on my phone.
I have the Telus device and have the ' hang' problem as well. I have seen updates on the HTC website for different carrier versions that may correct this problem. None for Telus yet though.
do you have any sort of battery meter running at the top of your screen? ie tnt battery meter?
that app KILLS KILLS KILLS performance on the TP for some reason...
Yes I have a battery meter at the top of the screen, but it's the stock one. I don't know what a "TNT" battery meter is. Should I disable it, and if so how? And after I do, how would I know how much power I have left? And are you saying that those of you who did not turn of the battery meter had performance problems when hanging up?
Thanks!
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I have the Telus device and have the ' hang' problem as well. I have seen updates on the HTC website for different carrier versions that may correct this problem. None for Telus yet though.
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Thank-you! I am also with Telus! If anyone has any suggestions - please help! This is the number one problem with the phone, as well as dropped calls on occasion. I like all the non-phone (ie. PDA) functions though (except that all my outdoor photos turn blue)
Found this which seems to help:
Dealt with HTC for the same issue you're talking about. Turn the "Auto save contact" off and make sure you wipe you call history and the issue will go away.
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Yes I have a battery meter at the top of the screen, but it's the stock one. I don't know what a "TNT" battery meter is. Should I disable it, and if so how? And after I do, how would I know how much power I have left? And are you saying that those of you who did not turn of the battery meter had performance problems when hanging up?
Thanks!
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im talking about a meter that runs across the very top of your screen so that if it's halfway across your screen you ahve 50% battery left. if you don't have any idea what i'm takling about then ignore this lol
Okay, I have an Imagio (please don't judge me ) and like many of you TP2 owners, the only real complaint I have about the phone is the battery life.
For me, I rely heavily on the device as a phone first (no big surprise, right?), email second, and then text and internet. Based on how I use my phone, I think the biggest contributor to my quick battery drain is the fact I have to leave my data connection 'on' to auto send/receive email.
I'm interested to know if there's a tweak or something out there that would allow me to leave my data 'off', automatically turn it 'on' to send/receive email at my specified interval, and then turn it 'off' again once completed. I know I could do that manually but was curious if there's something out there that could run in the background.
Also, thinking about it, has anyone looked into changing the weather tab uppdate time? I'm also wondering if the weather sync feature is sucking battery power?
Ok, my TP2 with Telus I have on data all the time, with push email (so more frequently goes active) and have no problems at all with battery usage. I can go several days between charges, but don't because I plug my phone in every night anyway.
How much talk time do you have on the phone on an average day? How many emails do you recieve? Is it exchange based on POP/IMAP?
You can easily set up the email sync itself to be manual, i.e. open your email app and click on send/recv - this way it won't hop on itself to grab emails all the time which will help with your battery life, but not really by much.
Similarly just set the weather application not to update automatically.
Keep in mind that a single phone call (on average) lasts about 3 minutes, a single data session lasts only a few seconds.
But even if you still want it to send/recv at a specified interval then when the connection is dormant (i.e. in between scheduled send/recv) it's not really taking any more power than if it was "offline" - this is just a state that both ends know, not an always-active transmit/receive when there is no actual data.
If you really need more battery life then just wait a few seconds when you check your email or the weather for it to go online and grab the data on demand.
Thanks for the reply Telek. Since I've had the phone, my talk time per day has been pretty low, relatively speaking. I seem to notice the drain after the phone's been sitting idle. I charge daily but if I didn't, I'm guessing I wouldn't come near several days on a single one.
I do get poor reception while I'm in my house and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. What you wrote about the data connection while inactive makes a lot of sense - I should probably be looking elsewhere.
Also, my phone is set to CDMA only in case any viewers are thinking of asking the question.
Well poorer reception will hurt battery life, but only while the phone is active. CDMA signals all have to reach the tower at the same strength (IIRC) so if a phone has poorer reception it will have to up it's broadcast power.
How many emails are you getting daily? Is it feasible to just go to "on demand" and manually do a send/recv to see if that helps your battery life?
It's possible that the phone isn't going into sleep mode, or times out at a much longer interval than normal. Perhaps try going into the power management page and shrinking the timeouts?
Not sure what else to suggest - maybe you just have a bad battery?
I am in the same boat here. Although I use pop and don't get that much email. I use it as a phone, text, then data. Just through a days use, sometimes not making a phone call at all my battery will be near death. I HAVE to charge it daily. I have a car charger, charger at work, and 2 chargers at home so I always can charge so it isn't that big of a deal for me. My signal strength is normally above 70% through my house and work.
I am ready to try out a new rom to see if that makes a difference.
PS not trying to thread steal but throwing out some info that might help.
I have to charge my TP2 like 3 times a day. Between Twitter, email, and reading on the net it goes pretty fast.
My battery life isnt too good either...I have email set to check every 2 hours. If i browse the net for about 15 minutes I lose a notch in battery life. I have to charge every night too!!
I got the 2100 extended battery in the mail today, im going to try it out and see how it does...if it's not a big improvement then im sending it back...the extended battery cover is ugly and slightly bulky so I dont like that to well...
Has anyone fooled around with the power management settings in ATC? If so, any notable changes worht exploring?
Well for my usage on a Sprint Touch Pro 2, I get good battery life. I make maybe 10 calls a day but each call is less than 2 minutes.
I surf the web maybe an hour a day and send + receive maybe 75-100 texts a day. I dont check my email to often.
Maybe 3 times a day I press Send/Receive but after I finish my stuff, I go to Communications and turn off my Data Connection.
At the end of the day I have about 60%. Although I have my backlight set at 30%. Others like it halfway and others fully set.
30% is ok for me indoors but once outside I turn it up to 80% if I really need too but then set it back to 30% once indoors.
Some solutions to Imagio battery drain
My 1st Imagio had no problem with battery, but the "end" key broke so I had a replacement sent. The replacement had nicks on screen and major battery drain, with overnight charge, by 3:00pm I had 5% left. So I sent for 2nd replacement. Same problem with the battery, fully drained by midday. Frustrated, I went to Verizon and requested replacement battery. All seemed well at first. Then, the new battery began to drain. I started eliminating programs running and now, at 10:00pm, I still have 72%, I talked, texted, sent pic mssg, got email, updated weather...etc. This is what I changed.
I turned the phone to CDMA only.
I changed input back to default HTC qwerty (I had sip change to swype)
I set email to check once a day, but I hit send/receive periodically
I set weather to check once a day.
Sorry, but I also uninstalled "codyppc performance booster"
I reinabled Auto Divice lock. (this seemed to help save battery by locking)
I am running spb mobile shell 3.5 and WM 6.5 interface. Whenever I run the HTC Touchflo3D it seems to drain more battery, along with suck up memory.
I check running applications often, reset a couple times a day. I am having an issue with my spb time alarm going off in the morning though. I will try something tonight to eliminate that as the culprit. Overall, I think anything set to run regularly will drain the battery. With these fixes, now I LOVE THIS PHONE. I have all my programs on it, lots of program and storage memory left, (more than I had out of the box) tweaked just the way I like. Hope this helps someone.
Please don't forget Clean Ram(search xda) , helped me alot.
HTC Desire S, not rooted. Original ROM.
Yesterday I noticed my battery starting to plummet FAST.
As in 1% every two minutes I was on wifi.
It had been doing very well with no real issues.
I had installed a new keyboard, which I disabled thinking it might have been that. No go. Still plummeting.
Just under display at 64% was Dialer at 18% This is new, I'd only ever seen it if I'd been on the phone a long time. This time is was eating up the % when I'd never even made a call.
I killed every task I could see trying to find the cause. Nothing.
Then, out of luck, I noticed the sync icon flash for a micro second on the notification bar. It was doing this every 30 seconds.
I Looked around in synching and disabled everything. The icon stopped.
I enabled background data, but turned off auto sync. The icon remained off.
Then on the google part of the sync menu I clicked Google reader, Gmail, Calendar and Contacts .... Contacts came up with a little red (!) and a note saying Sync is currently experiencing problems, try again later.
no problems, I disabled it.
Now, on full charge I left the phone for 2 hours. Only thing on was Wifi. And, again "Dialer" is popping up under Display as being the top usage of battery?!!
I've not touched it! And the phone is back to loosing 1% every 2/4 minutes again.
Within "Dialer" in the About, battery etc I see Simtoolkit, Phone, Dialler storage as included packages.
That's all I know.
Can anyone offer a solution or idea as to what and why "dialer" is eating my battery like this?
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I'm afraid that I can't explain but can say I've seen the same with Dialer before.
You did the right thing, in manually adjusting the syncing, that eats battery when phone should be idle....
I'd suggest that you read the sticky [GUIDE] Update 28/06/11: HTC Desire S Guide (V1.03) For Newcomers to Android which shold give you some pointers on battery usage.
Wasn't this that was fixed by going to Manage Applications/All and clearing data for "Contacts Storage"? I'm not 100% sure, but if you do clear the data for contacts storage you will probably need to resync any social network contacts. It won't delete your contacts though.
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HTC Desire S, not rooted. Original ROM.
Yesterday I noticed my battery starting to plummet FAST.
As in 1% every two minutes I was on wifi.
It had been doing very well with no real issues.
I had installed a new keyboard, which I disabled thinking it might have been that. No go. Still plummeting.
Just under display at 64% was Dialer at 18% This is new, I'd only ever seen it if I'd been on the phone a long time. This time is was eating up the % when I'd never even made a call.
I killed every task I could see trying to find the cause. Nothing.
Then, out of luck, I noticed the sync icon flash for a micro second on the notification bar. It was doing this every 30 seconds.
I Looked around in synching and disabled everything. The icon stopped.
I enabled background data, but turned off auto sync. The icon remained off.
Then on the google part of the sync menu I clicked Google reader, Gmail, Calendar and Contacts .... Contacts came up with a little red (!) and a note saying Sync is currently experiencing problems, try again later.
no problems, I disabled it.
Now, on full charge I left the phone for 2 hours. Only thing on was Wifi. And, again "Dialer" is popping up under Display as being the top usage of battery?!!
I've not touched it! And the phone is back to loosing 1% every 2/4 minutes again.
Within "Dialer" in the About, battery etc I see Simtoolkit, Phone, Dialler storage as included packages.
That's all I know.
Can anyone offer a solution or idea as to what and why "dialer" is eating my battery like this?
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I have also seen this before, but not for a while now. I think it was an inherent bug with Android 2.3.3 and the Battery usage manager. Read through this thread where the DHD crowd have suffered the same issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069251
Edit: just noticed you've already found it!
It appears that the reported percentage of use was invalid. If you select Dialer from the list, it'll say only a few seconds of CPU time and a few kb of data have been sent/received if things are normal. The actual percentage of use is being mis-represented by the bug.
Your battery drain (which is definitely not normal) may actually be coming from a different culprit. The Dialer could be a red herring.
I'm pretty sure since I've been on 2.3.4 I've not seen it since. Typically after the first sync and Google Contacts are all pulled down onto my phone, I turn the Contacts sync off. No need to keep syncing contacts when they rarely change. I do a manual sync if I add a contact.
Use this to track down the battery drain...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
And/or this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031124
If it's data traffic related this'll point you at which specific app is using it...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.radioopt.widget&feature=search_result
If this problem has started suddenly and you are on stock, the above should help point the finger in the right direction. As Ben has suggested give my guide a read too, and see if that helps. The first things I do after putting a new ROM on are;
1. Turn off 'Always On Mobile Data' in Mobile Networks.
2. Turn off 'Network notification' in WiFi Settings.
3. Turn off 'Best WiFi performance' in advanced WiFi settings.
4. Turn off 'Pocket Mode' in Sound settings. (A bad drain that one)
5. Turn off 'Auto screen brightness' in Display settings. (normally set to 25%)
6. Turn off 'News', 'Stocks', 'Contacts' and 'Google Reader' auto-syncing.
7. Set Weather sync to every 3 hours.
Would be interested to know what you discover. If you need further help, please ask!
Hi,
First post here, so I hope I'm posting at the right place.
Just bought an unlocked Samsung Omnia W (Focus Flash stateside) around four days ago. I didn't notice anything about the battery life the first two days since I was using it quite heavily and felt the rapid discharge was normal (the usual rigmarole- everything turned on).
Last two days, I've started using services more selectively, and still see my battery discharging at an alarming rate. I'm talking 5-8% in an hour with barely a minute or so of the screen being on for checking texts and sending a few.
I've disabled everything- location services, ALL live tiles, WiFi, Bluetooth, even went as far as to disable 3G and switched to 2G. I switched back to 3G because where I'm at I get a full 3G signal but a very light 2G signal. I've put off all background services (Gmapps was the only one, I uninstalled it). Turned off Xbox Live connection as well. Turned off facebook chat. Removed the People Tile. Three email accounts set to sync "as mail arrives".
I noticed the battery saver screen was showing me only 3 hours on 48% charge. I then completely discharged the battery through WPBench battery test (which showed 52 minutes starting at 25% battery life). Now, I've been charging it for an hour or so, and the battery saver screen shows 22% and estimates only 1 hour as the run time.
Is my battery defective? The WPBench time of 52 minutes for 25% seemed par for the Focus Flash (Engadget gave it a run time of 3 hours 30 on WP bench I think), but this fast discharge is really baffling and makes me kind of afraid to use the phone too much. I've heard the Flash has stellar battery life, so if anyone can throw some light on the matter, that would be great.
By the way, updated to 8107 two days ago through Zune. Normal usage consists of 30-40 texts a day, an hour of calls max and maybe 10-15 minutes of browsing. Battery saver screen usually shows only 9-10 hours on a full charge, though it does last a bit longer than that (14-16 hours). I'm sure such light usage doesn't warrant such a quick discharge.
I apologize if this makes for a really long read, first time here.
Thanks.
First, battery saver gives times based on previous data so it will get more accurate with time. Second, the battery will get better after about of week of use, it takes a little time to 'break in.' Third, if you are in an area that has poor reception your phone will try to find a signal a lot more and this can drain power quite a bit. Fourth, try returning everything to normal as far as background agents, email sync, and data settings ect. but turn 'battery saver' on after a full charge. If you still have bad battery life then perhaps somethng is wrong with your battery/phone.
EDIT: if you are using 'light' as your theme you will use a lot more power since amoled screens work best with black bacgrounds since the black areas are essentally 'off'
Been using a dark tile. Let's see how it handles with time.
A lot of my friends with Android phones simply keep data off since their batteries barely last if it's on, do I need to take any such harsh measures with WP? I hope not, I like my mail to arrive immediately (I have set sync on "as mail arrives").
Push email (the "as mail arrives" setting) is actually a very substantial power-drain. Setting it to even just every few minutes (5? 15? I forget what the next level down is) will help.
I may be wrong, but won't it cost less battery if the phone was getting push mail, say, three times a day for 3 separate mails as compared to checking every hour 24 times a day?
Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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I thought push email and other kind of push notifications were sent from the server to the phone, and so the phone didn't have to be constantly checking for email updates...
The phone needs to be listening for those notifications. That requires running the radio (for data) at a higher-than-minimum level. Push notifications have a similar impact to push email, in terms of battery life. It's not hugely destructive - I have two email accounts that use push, and still tend to get through the day and then a bit just fine - but it does impact the battery life.
Hello peeps,
I have just received my Pixel 6A and while i am extremely satisfied, coming from a Huawei P30, this phone has definitely few drawbacks.
1. The signal strength. My phone constantly keeps dropping 1-2 bars while being in my room. (previous phone was full good signal always.
a) Whenever i call someone, before getting the signal tone, like 10 seconds have to pass with the phone being silent and then reaching the 'ding ding' tone.
b) Signal in the gym is extremely low and i almost get no reception. (P30 from huawei had signal almost everywhere inside.
c) I recorded a 5 second video in a shopping mall yesterday and i tried sendig the video to my friend 30 times using whatsapp/ viber / facebook / instagram on cellular internet and different wifi-s and couldnt send it from the mall, from my friend's house and it suddenly started working after 1 hour. (I also had the phone restarted 2 times in between to try and make it work ( unsuccesfully)
2. There is a date/weather (weather can be removed) display on the first main page on the phone, on the upper right which cannot be removed no matter what.
I have a widget that i would like to place there but i cannot since their internal date is stuck there and obstructs the place i would like to use my date/weather/time widget on.
3. Apps just stop sometimes and are non-react-ant. I always keep 1-2 apps open, and never more than that. Example, oppening instagram app > going to my profile > suddenly i cannot click anywhere, i can only close the app and open again and it will work. This happens for multiple apps.
4. No notification number on the apps like there is on almost all android phones. You should have an option to have example Messages(3) next to your Messages app, but instead it states Messages and a random colored circle just indicating that there IS a message, not how many.
Being my third day with this device, im somewhat really bothered by these minor/major issues so i am wondering, has anyone else complained for these and how come that they havent been addressed/implemented/fixed already?
Thank you for the read/input =)
The bars indicating mobile data signal strength on your phone do not provide an accurate measure of the signal strength. Each carrier and phone manufacturer has their own interpretation of what each bar represents, so the number of bars can vary across different carriers and phones [1]. Therefore, it is not possible to compare signal strength between different phone models simply by looking at the number of bars displayed on the screen [8].
Date, weather, notification dots, etc depends on your launcher, perhaps the default Pixel Launcher isn't to your liking, there are plenty of others that you might prefer.
I'm using Lawnchair 2 personally, it's close to Pixel Launcher but allows to hide At a glance (the time weather thing) and the search bar, and also has notification dots with numbers.
There is also a mod for the Pixel launcher if you're rooted, didnt try that one though.
That apps randomly close or stop is a bit worrying though, mine don't do that, well that said, it's normal that apps that rely on internet data need to refresh when you reopen them due to battery optimisation.
Aka, if you dont clear them from your recent apps then they stay open as in in memory, yes, but they still get stopped from actually processing stuff after a while to save battery.
You can try to disable battery optimisation for those apps if you don't like that.
They shouldnt be crashing though.
Unfortunately, i am no fan of launchers.
On the other side, i have just found another glitch/issue/hardware problem?
Whenever i use my phone for the calls (the thing it should be mostly used for) and use speaker instead of putting the phone to my ear, the other person will hear around 20 % of what i say.
The phone is literally 30 sentimeters away from me and ill say 3 sentences to which the other party is quiet and asks if i have said anything since the voice is sliced/muffled/cut/low volume.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Well, as far as I know, huawei excels on signal strenght due the fact that they own a lot of intelectual property regarding to that.