After logging the temperature for a few days I've noticed a direct correlation between phone temperature and battery life. The phone drains 1% every 3-4 minutes when its at or above 35. when its around 27° or lower it only drains about 5% per hour... I'm having an issue however. Today my phone was extremely hot. Right under 40° all day... with the screen off 90% of the time. Tonight I'm doing a test I've removed the back cover and its nowhere close to as hot as it was.before. I'm starting to think the battery cover is too close to the battery and internals thus causing overheating issues. I love this phone but I may try to swap it out for another while I still can. Has anyone else noticed similar issues? I'm underclocked at 800mhz screen brightness 10%. Does at&t charge a restocking fee if I return it?
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After logging the temperature for a few days I've noticed a direct correlation between phone temperature and battery life. The phone drains 1% every 3-4 minutes when its at or above 35. when its around 27° or lower it only drains about 5% per hour... I'm having an issue however. Today my phone was extremely hot. Right under 40° all day... with the screen off 90% of the time. Tonight I'm doing a test I've removed the back cover and its nowhere close to as hot as it was.before. I'm starting to think the battery cover is too close to the battery and internals thus causing overheating issues. I love this phone but I may try to swap it out for another while I still can. Has anyone else noticed similar issues? I'm underclocked at 800mhz screen brightness 10%. Does at&t charge a restocking fee if I return it?
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well there must be a big current draw for it too get hot. android has a bug that shows up occasionally where the radio consumes large amounts of power. also 2.3.3 has a similar bug where the system wont sleep, this should only effect gingerbread but it may just be more frequent in gingerbread.
check battery usage in settings>about phone. if anything other than the display is over 50% there is a problem. if it is android system then shut it down and pull the battery for a few minutes, start it back up. if it is the cell radio then put it in airplane mode for a minute and take it out of airplane mode.
removing the cover may help it stay cool but there isnt enough heat there to cause battery drain, instead the cause of the battery drain must also be the source of the heat.
was almost thinking bout buying this phone as its very hot in africa this could burn my hands
I am on my second Infuse.
My first one had battery charging issues, and compare to the current one it was also a battery hog. I did not put two and two together until the current one i have, but the first one would get hot around the camera area with just streaming slacker while browsing the web.
I exchanged it like 4 days after i got it due to it taking 6.5 hours to charge from 5% to 100%.
I just had the same issue... it was down to 10% so I put it on the charger... 3 hours later I looked back and its barley on 40%. It took 7 hours to fully charge last night. Something isn't right. Now my screen is completely set to off and I'm underclockong and its gone from 24° to 39° in 5 minutes.
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please check the battery usage in about phone. if anything other than the screen is around 50% there is a problem, the solution may be as easy as starting airplane modeand turning it off
I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
Use spare parts app and find out battery stats on partial wake clock usage and sensors usage
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What I would do if I were you is charge to 100%, recalibrate, and take the battery out for about 15 minutes before you put it back in and turn your phone on. I dunno.why this procedure worked for me but that's just a suggestion if you don't wanna flash to stock and back to whatever you're using.
Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
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I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
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I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
That is really odd but mine has started doing the exact same thing. I have never had battery issues and for the first time today my phone was completely dead within 6 hours, and the past week it seems to hardly make it 12 hours.
I was just assuming it was the launcher I was using but I removed it and it never helped whatsoever.
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Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
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I would agree with you on that but... I really have no idea what all got updated and don't know how to find out. the perils of auto-update I suppose.
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I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
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I'll give that a try... it made it through last night in pretty good shape though. Confused I am.
Not sure if this helps or not, but here is my experience.
I have two wireless routers in my house. One I keep locked to N-only and the other to G-Only. The N router I have suspected for some time has a weak or flaky radio because I can watch the signal strength fluctuate wildly over a period of 10 seconds or so. I noticed a while back that when my phone is connected to the N router it will kill itself pretty much overnight. When I disable that connection and let it connect to the G router it only loses a couple % over an 8 hour period.
I don't know if it is due to being connected to N, or if my suspected flaky router is causing it to use more power staying locked onto the signal or something of that sort.
Anyone know where to get an extended battery? Thanks.
I can't even find a place to buy a regular battery for the phone. I'm not sure if I would need one, but it would be nice to have. I'm in the habit of charging it the last hour I am at work so no matter what, I'll never run out of battery even if I go somewhere straight from work, but a spare battery is always a good thing to have.
I have a wild guess as to why not.
I noticed this phone battery has the "near field communication" labeling on the BATTERY. The other phone that I'm aware of having NFC, (the galaxy s2) does NOT have this wording on the battery.
Why did I notice this? I randomly read that there is an SD card manufacturer that is putting NFC chip's into their microSD cards, and even some ipod cases are getting NFC chips built into them as well.
I don't know too much about NFC, but with the labeling being on our battery, and not the S2, I kinda think our NFC chip is actually in the battery, and not the phone itself. If an NFC chip can be put into an SD card or case on a phone that never had NFC to begin with, I don't see why it couldn't be put into a battery, especially since one of the terminals might not even be for power, but just for an NFC connection.
That's my theory, I could be wrong!
you're probably right. This is how it is with the Galaxy Nexus, also built by Samsung. I hadn't noticed the label, but I also wasn't looking for it.
I'd be curious to find out what an "extended battery" for this phone would look like. I'd be all for it so long as it kept NFC and didn't bulge out of the back
I'd be interested to find one. Being on a stock rom and standard battery, my battery drops about 5% in five mins just checking Facebook. GPS drains it another percent per min it is in use. Half way thru the day my battery is dead. It really sucks having to carry around a charger. I'm also using juice defender and other tweaks I know to save battery
I'd bet you a waffle cone your screen brightness is set too high.
Forget most of those "battery defender" apps, especially if they are those stupid task killing applications.....a program being in active memory is not necessarily actually doing anything, which means it is not using your battery, and if it gets killed, if the OS needs it open for any reason, it having to be re-opened will just use cpu cycles anyway
I'd agree with most people that using the automatic brightness option is very annoying, it's really sensitive and it also tends to make the screen not be bright enough. Having said that, using any of the many available brightness widgets can be a very good thing.
The stock one is not so bad, personally I've been enjoying powerful control, http://goo.gl/2vZXl but I've had great battery life and easy readability if I use the brightness setting where it looks like a half moon.
If you're outdoors in the bright sun, you'll need the screen to be as bright as possible if you want to read it, but otherwise it's fine. The screen brightness is always the single biggest battery usage factor.
Personally I've always disabled the haptic feedback as I think it's annoying and I'm sure that using vibrating alerts is also a huge battery drain.
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I'd bet you a waffle cone your screen brightness is set too high.
Forget most of those "battery defender" apps, especially if they are those stupid task killing applications.....a program being in active memory is not necessarily actually doing anything, which means it is not using your battery, and if it gets killed, if the OS needs it open for any reason, it having to be re-opened will just use cpu cycles anyway
I'd agree with most people that using the automatic brightness option is very annoying, it's really sensitive and it also tends to make the screen not be bright enough. Having said that, using any of the many available brightness widgets can be a very good thing.
The stock one is not so bad, personally I've been enjoying powerful control, http://goo.gl/2vZXl but I've had great battery life and easy readability if I use the brightness setting where it looks like a half moon.
If you're outdoors in the bright sun, you'll need the screen to be as bright as possible if you want to read it, but otherwise it's fine. The screen brightness is always the single biggest battery usage factor.
Personally I've always disabled the haptic feedback as I think it's annoying and I'm sure that using vibrating alerts is also a huge battery drain.
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My screen brightness is at zero without automatic brightness on, and im not using haptic feedback. The phone battery is fine if its just sitting over night, but as soon as I turn on GPS to use maps for 5 mins or to check facebook the battery just drops a % every min. So i guess the phone is fine if Im not using it, but then whats the point?
You're exaggerating.
I've never had a phone battery drop 1% per minute.
Look man, I just spent 5 minutes playing music at max volume, while getting directions to 8 different places in google maps, sent two emails, downloaded a new app from the market, and received one text message.
Battery level after all this? Still at 100%. Does that mean I can do this an unlimited number of times? No, it does not.
Frankly, I don't believe you. I've used this phone, and my previous phone for playing movies at full screen brightness with the audio being played through bluetooth to my stereo headsets. Does it effect the battery status? You bet it does.
Two weeks ago when I last played a snes game on my phone I did so at full screen brightness over bluetooth to a ps3 controller. When I wasn't playing the game I was sending or receiving text messages and had vibrate on. I played super metroid from the very beginning to almost through the end of the game. When I play snes games on my phone I tend to use quick save and quick load and frame skipping very commonly, effectively letting me do things "perfectly" but this is a lot of saving and loading and running the game even faster than how it normally is. I started at 2, and the next thing I knew it was 6:00 and I was supposed to meet a friend for dinner at 6:30.
But for crying out loud you are saying you can drain your battery from 100% to zero in less than 2 hours.
I'm calling shenanigans. I don't think you could even do that intentionally, unless you sat there and forced the phone to vibrate the entire time.
Phone batteries don't last for days like they used to. Batteries have not changed too much in the last few years, but the things phones do, and the screens they do them on certainly has. Stop expecting your phone to last over the entire weekend even when you actually use it.
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I'd be interested to find one. Being on a stock rom and standard battery, my battery drops about 5% in five mins just checking Facebook. GPS drains it another percent per min it is in use. Half way thru the day my battery is dead. It really sucks having to carry around a charger. I'm also using juice defender and other tweaks I know to save battery
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Something to keep in mind:
When this phone hits 100%, it STOPS CHARGING. Even plugged in, it will no longer be drawing power into your battery, yet it'll still be running on battery.
If you plug it in when you go to sleep, it finishes charging within 2 hours, then it goes 6 hours idling on battery power but it still says 100% until you disconnect it. Then, while you're using the phone it'll adjust as you use it until it gets to the right level. This is likely what you're seeing.
If I use my phone from the moment it finishes upping to 100%, I get great battery life. I get great battery life in general and have been happy with the phone.
Of course, this might be a totally different issue where you just got a bum battery. But it's something worth considering.
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Something to keep in mind:
When this phone hits 100%, it STOPS CHARGING. Even plugged in, it will no longer be drawing power into your battery, yet it'll still be running on battery.
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I don't believe this is true. I hate to constantly be a naysayer in this thread, but this didn't seem logical to me so when my battery went to full, (when the battery is full, unplug charger text showed in the notification bar) I kept it plugged in and set it to play a couple tv episodes on full brightness while I did laundry and made dinner.
Two hours later, I first looked at the battery status while the phone was still plugged in. As expected, it was at 100%.
I unplugged the charger, waited a couple minutes, and checked again.
Still at 100%, which completely makes sense because I've never had a phone that behaved as you've described.
I also would have noticed the battery dying very early, *every single day* because my habit for the last week or so has been to plug the phone in when I go to sleep. I have an app called syncme that pulls files off my computer such as music and video while I'm sleeping, and on average it transfers about 6 gigs of data this way, every single day.
I don't know if you've ever transferred 6 gigs of data on a phone via wifi, but yes, it's not exactly battery power friendly.
My phone's always been 100% battery when I leave for work, just like my last phone was where I also plugged it in at night.
Just saying!
So you guys know.. I have galaxy nexus and the blaze and the batteries are the same so you can order a battery fro the nexus and it will work with the blaze
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radiohead7778580 said:
So you guys know.. I have galaxy nexus and the blaze and the batteries are the same so you can order a battery fro the nexus and it will work with the blaze
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Just did an ebay search for Galaxy nexus.. You might need to clarify which model number as there are various Galaxy Nexus batteries listed per Nexus model on ebay...
Galaxy Nexus GSM I9250
Cirkustanz said:
I don't believe this is true. I hate to constantly be a naysayer in this thread, but this didn't seem logical to me so when my battery went to full, (when the battery is full, unplug charger text showed in the notification bar) I kept it plugged in and set it to play a couple tv episodes on full brightness while I did laundry and made dinner.
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Actually he is pretty close to the way it operates. The way your phone gauges battery life is similar to your car with gas. When the meter reads 100%, it is really more like 98%. When the battery reaches true 100%, the phone will stop charging the battery (but will run off of USB power, not the battery). They do this to account for small variations in the many variables that affect a battery's performance (like temperature). Likewise, your phone will read 0% before the battery is truly completely drained (this is also to protect the battery - they don't like being charged to 100%, nor drained to 0%).
This could also greatly affect your previous test on battery performance. To get a more accurate result, let the phone drain to about 60%, then test the time to drop a percentage point.
What you are talking about is a suggestion that the battery meter doesn't necessarily update it's strength meter all of the time, and you even say that the phone runs off the plugged in power at this point.....
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Actually he is pretty close to the way it operates. The way your phone gauges battery life is similar to your car with gas. When the meter reads 100%, it is really more like 98%. When the battery reaches true 100%, the phone will stop charging the battery (but will run off of USB power, not the battery). They do this to account for small variations in the many variables that affect a battery's performance (like temperature). Likewise, your phone will read 0% before the battery is truly completely drained (this is also to protect the battery - they don't like being charged to 100%, nor drained to 0%).
This could also greatly affect your previous test on battery performance. To get a more accurate result, let the phone drain to about 60%, then test the time to drop a percentage point.
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This is what the person said.
When this phone hits 100%, it STOPS CHARGING. Even plugged in, it will no longer be drawing power into your battery, yet it'll still be running on battery.
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His entire post is incorrect, and has nothing to do with what you are talking about either.
Cirkustanz said:
What you are talking about is a suggestion that the battery meter doesn't necessarily update it's strength meter all of the time, and you even say that the phone runs off the plugged in power at this point.....
This is what the person said.
His entire post is incorrect, and has nothing to do with what you are talking about either.
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Before you discredit anyones post, you should understand how many battery chargers work, and the importance of them shutting off following a complete charge. Here is a quote regarding Li-ion battery maintenance :
Li-ion cannot absorb overcharge, and when fully charged the charge current must be cut off. A continuous trickle charge would cause plating of metallic lithium, and this could compromise safety. To minimize stress, keep the lithium-ion battery at the 4.20V/cell peak voltage as short a time as possible."
Many chargers have this feature built in to avoid any overheating and/or damage to the cell. I'm not saying this is the case because I have not tested whether the battery charging circuit in this particular phone, or it's charger operate, but I will say that this has been the case in MANY of it predecessors.
That being said, I think an extended battery would be a welcome addition to the options of this phone. Mine too only lasts a day at it's best. Perhaps not 1% a minute...but then again who knows?
I'm having issues with my phone shutting off when the battery meter is low but not dead.The indicator will be yellow and still shut off. When I power it back on and plug it in, its completely dead .
is the phone innacurately reporting the battery percentage?
Sounds like the battery isn't conditioned correctly. There are apps in the market to help with that.
Look in battery configs battstats prob in /data/system and prob elsewhere
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Arent there other ways to condition the battery with an app? i heard like running the phone to empty and then fully charging? any advice?
The problem with running it empty is the battery will never fully discharge because the phone is reading the stats incorrectly.
can you recommend any specific app for this? do you have to be rooted?
You'd have to look at the requirements per app but I do believe you need root.
Your phone isn't going to report one thing, but "believe" a different thing because of bad battery stats. A Google employee has already debunked "conditioning" your battery by deleting battery stats; the phone uses it for reference only, not to make any decisions, especially when to shut down. Something is wrong with the battery itself, or your phone, not your stats.
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It might be better over time. Had mine for two weeks now, and I had it run out on me three times. First time it shut down at about 13% left on the meter, second time around 8% and this last time at 2%. Good enough for me, but it's annoying if an untampered new phone doesn't report at least somewhat close to real battery-state.
I usually hook it on the charger at 15%-30% (approx 12-16 hours usage) in the evening, and sometimes have a few short charges (25-30 minutes) from the car-charger during the day.
I've never let mine get below 50% since I got it, but I just ran it into the ground with a terminal process ('yes && yes') and it went all the way to 0% and then powered off.
Hi everyone
My problem is.. my DS started to charge slowly.
Now it doesn't really charge slowly, If I check the voltage, I will get like 4220mv but as soon as it reaches that, the charging graph just goes flat.
If say I have charged it to 70% and it started going slow. i switch it off, place on the charger, and the lamp goes green. I turn it on, and it is showing 100%.
I have tried calibrations, diffirent kernels, wiping, factory resets e.t.c.
Another thing is that if I will run a v6 battery calibrator,it will show that actually I should have a 100% charge although a phone is showing only 70%.
So the summary: Phone charges normally when off (when recovery monitors charging), showing the correct voltage when on... But showing the wrong percentage if on charge.
Also sometimes if the battery is like 14% left. And I turn the phone off and then on again, it will show 22% bearing the same voltage as when it was 14%.
Question: Is there any way to tweak the battery indicator so it would show % values same as the v6 calibrator does it or is it a hardware fault, if yes, which part of it ?
This happens to me on my older (original) battery, but not my new one. I bought the second battery when this problem started happening. So, I think it's just a symptom of an old battery.
By the way, if you leave it on charge long enough, it will eventually jump up to 100%.
Other than this weird behaviour, it has no real impact on anything.
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Thought so, mines been acting similarly lately, but strangely enough it seems to be getting better
I think I found out..
I actually purchased a new battery recently, because my old one was jumping like crazy and started discharging in a few hours..
This new battery I bought from a mobile repair shop.
It is a cheap chinese battery with no name, anyhow I just took it out to take a look at it...
And guess what, it sais 1200mah..
Can the phone be confused because of that ?