Hi, I was wondering if there was a virtual machine app out so I could say run xp on a tablet and use rsd lite off my tablet to flash my phone. I've been searching all over but I'm not really finding anything
Alright, I haven't done this, this is just what a bit of google magic turned up.
Assuming its an Android Tablet, you may be able to get Ubuntu Linux to run on it.
(some quick searching and it seems you execute the commands through ADB, meaning you need to at least have access to a PC to install and get that stage up and running)
Then, I'm not even sure how functional it is, support for usb and all, may be more work than you are prepared/capable of.
If you manage to get Ubuntu up and running, use sbf_flash.
I'm kinda just spit balling ideas here, if you are uncomfortable with this, might be best to just borrow a friends PC to flash; this response was more proof of concept.
I have no access to a pc.... That's the whole reason why I'm looking into this
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this popped up earlier for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M6MwNto3MQ
seems pretty neat but their are a few major things thatd i love to see fixed or somehowfixed.
first mouse support and internet working which would then allow apps hopefully.
and then since its a live cd whenever youd reboot the pc or restart all the info wouldnt be saved. any way for this aswell?
just would like this livedroid stuff to evolve like the andriod device has
seems kind of cool but........... this is what the emulator is for in the android SDK.
well i hope that this will eventually lead or get 1 step closer to dualbooting android, say windows/android id really like, especially with access to droid apps
have you seen what ubuntu is working on? a modified kernel to run android apps along side of regular linux. imagine a 10 inch netbook running ubuntu mobile that also runs the same apps as your phone. pretty slick. I think i remember finding it via hackaday.com but i'm sure some googleing will turn it up
I'd love android as a main distro, they need to make it easier to compile C/C++ apps though, currently wrapping them in java slows development in my opinion.
The wrapper for ubuntu looks good but i wouldn't really try it, that's just me though
well im just really trying to figure out some way to get android onto my laptop, either with flashdrive or dual booting. Id love to have windows as one and then android as the other if I had access to the internet and app store, because if im traveling some of the android apps would be very useful and they are alot easier to access and find then searching google with windows.
so any chance of this?
Here you go
http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/livedroid/downloads/40887/livedroid_alpha.iso/
Created by Japanese developers, a bootable iso image (Live CD) of android for your computer.
Here's a translation of their webpage:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.jp%2Fforum%2Fforum.php%3Fforum_id%3D19230&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=
You should be able to open the iso with any iso program such as PowerISO, or Magic ISO, etc, then repack the iso with the same program (I was able to do it in Power ISO) Shouldn't be as difficult as opening a *.img
thanks for the links but thats the same thing I posted in topic. is their anyway to put this onto a USB and have the USB bootable?
I would deff use this IF
-it had internet working
-could save the data (maybe stored onto a flash drive or turned into an actual dual boot along windows etc...)
-and with the internet working I could download apps from market place, If I could dl apps id actually use this sometimes because some of the apps would be very very useful in public with Inet access such as where, or the information apps and itd just be plain fun
so any chance of these coming?
anyone thinking of messing with this?
samrozzi said:
thanks for the links but thats the same thing I posted in topic. is their anyway to put this onto a USB and have the USB bootable?
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Have you tried googling it? Something along the lines of "how to create a bootable usb drive linux"
Here's one I found that seems to be the most user friendly, I can't verify if it works or not with this android build (although it should.)
http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/08/27/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-or-memory-card/
Why not just use a virtual machine, mounting the ISO?
It is not easy to modify android to support many wifi- or lan-devices..
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Why not just use a virtual machine, mounting the ISO?
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Because this is like when you're installing a fresh version of windows, or restoring.
You need the CD in the cd drive, then restart (as in shut down and start up)
But before it even starts loading windows, it loads the cd instead.
I think some computers can load from a USB drive, check your computer's BIOS
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Because this is like when you're installing a fresh version of windows, or restoring.
You need the CD in the cd drive, then restart (as in shut down and start up)
But before it even starts loading windows, it loads the cd instead.
I think some computers can load from a USB drive, check your computer's BIOS
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That doesn't really answer his question, does it?
I think you could easily mount the iso in e.g. VirtualBox/VMWare and start it virtualized. They seem to have included a standard linux kernel with enough modules
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That doesn't really answer his question, does it?
I think you could easily mount the iso in e.g. VirtualBox/VMWare and start it virtualized. They seem to have included a standard linux kernel with enough modules
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Sorry, I guess I really didn't know what he was talking about =X
But yeah you are right... hmm that should work, although I've never worked with
a VirtualBox
And in virtualbox.. You could use the "freezing"-function to freeze the state ;-) Only thing to fix is wlan/lan.
Wlan should be easier - the driver is named wlan.ko.
You need to compile a driver.
After playing around with it a bit, it's really only a novelty..
I'm running it on Virtual box.. and it seems rather pointless other then for "demonstrating android." The applications that come on it are, for the most part, inopperable and force close left and right. It doesn't seem like it has any practical use, because the available system memory is stuck at 14mb.
However, if this was developed into an installer, not just a live cd, then I could see it having a lot of potential. once you could utilize system resources it would be worth looking into developing drivers for.
For now it would be impractical and maybe impossible to establish a network connection.
I'm having trouble getting adb or fastboot to work with puppylinux.
I ripped the binaries from the tools directory on my other machine and am using them on thier own as i dont want the sdk or its dependencies on my livecd, this cant be the problem as i tested both adb and fastboot on a ubuntu livecd and they worked fine without the sdk.
When i run the commands they seem to work fine but refuse to see my phone over usb.
adb over wifi works fine, just usb i'm having trouble with.
Maybe I could do "adb connect ath to usb:" or something???im lost???help???
Any help troubleshooting would be great.
I have seen others having this problem on google but no solution was found then
Puppy is wacky and a very modified "distro", if you want to call it that. I try playing with it a while back but after a while I accepted that it is just not straight enough to bother with, imho but you draw your own conclusion. Personally, from what I have been reading on Debian's site, they are focused on being alot more organized in regard to mobile devices & phones, etc. Debian or Ubuntu would be my choice.
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well puppy Linux would be great on NC bc of that ability of being small and also you can run it on a usb, and save all your work on 8gb drive which is cool. you change it to run on flash memory so this distro has a lot of option
Maybe I'm missing something (probably am, but my searches have turned up nothing), but I can't seem to find any Linux packages for dealing with the Captivate. Odin, etc, and everything I've found, are Windows apps. I don't have, and certainly don't want, any Windows OS on my computers, nor do I want to deal with wine. I'm running Debian Sid, FWIW. Anyone have any pointers to Linux PC tools for the Captivate?
Heimdall is a start. Basically a replacement for ODIN.
Other than that, most everything you need should be able to be done on Linux.
What specifically are you trying to do, but can't?
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Maybe I'm missing something (probably am, but my searches have turned up nothing), but I can't seem to find any Linux packages for dealing with the Captivate. Odin, etc, and everything I've found, are Windows apps. I don't have, and certainly don't want, any Windows OS on my computers, nor do I want to deal with wine. I'm running Debian Sid, FWIW. Anyone have any pointers to Linux PC tools for the Captivate?
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multiple references are abound to Heimdall .... used as an alternative to ODIN for osx and linux
Yeah dude, all you really need is heimdall and the android sdk. With those two, you should be able to do all the same stuff windows users are able to, unless you're looking for linux versions of all those one-click-root-whatnot programs. If you really insist on using those, you're better off just installing windows in a virtual machine or something.
OK, thanks, I'll give Heimdall a look. I don't have to have 'one-click does it all'. I really can't do anything yet, since my phone hasn't arrived yet, I'm just trying to get prepared. I don't want to be limited to the AT&T lockdowns, and I want to be able to load any apps I want, not just what is available from the Market and approved by AT&T. I want to be able to look at the software and get somewhat comfortable with it before I start trying to do anything.
Heimdall will work great on your set up. There is also a linux version of the"super oneclick" tool. It didn't work great for me but there were some awesome step by step instructions in the thread to root via the command line.
Awesome instructions that didn't work, huh? I'm comfortable with a Linux command line, so I'll probably go with Heimdall. Some people seem to be having problems with it, but the main reason is probably inexperience with the Linux/OSX command line and with technology in general.
Thanks to all for the pointers. Obviously I wasn't putting exactly the right terms into Google, since I never saw a reference to Heimdall. Once I get a phone, I think I can figure it out as I go. Fedex is slow, as usual. We have a priority package sitting in the office at work that has been waiting on a pickup for over a month. The ground guy comes by almost every day, but he can't pick it up, only the air guy can, and he never shows up. Why, oh why, did we ever leave UPS for Fedex? My second-day delivery is going to take a week or so, but I'll survive somehow.
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Awesome instructions that didn't work, huh? I'm comfortable with a Linux command line, so I'll probably go with Heimdall.
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The program hung but the CLI instructions worked like a charm. Here is the CLI post if the app fails you also. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11661579&postcount=2806 (there is a typo in step 6; hint chmod...)
Also, here is a thread with some shell scripts you might find useful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760500
I use linux with my Captivate.
I use Vmware within Linux to bring Win XP up and frim there I can use
Odin just fine!
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I don't have the space for a VM. My netbook only has 32GB, divided between / and /home, and I don't have a Windows license in any case. Nor would I install VMWare just for this, even if I had the space. It's Linux or nothing, and I think I have enough available now to get by when the phone shows up.
i use nlite to strip down windows xp and run it in a vm in virtual box, i only have a 40gig ssd since my other hard drive crashed but find it to be plenty for applications. i keep media on my network drive. the bigger issue than space is ram. if you dont have 2gigs+ on that thing ten virtual machines will bog you down considerably
i see your point though. i think the reason this forum doesnt have too much as far as instructins for linux is that we have odin and most linux users dont mind having windows for some stuff. im pretty sure that if somebody can write heimdal on there own that it is posible to flash without a special application.
also nearly everything you need to do can be done without a computer if you are starting with 2.1, you can root 2.1 with a file downloaded from this site then once rooted you can flash 2.2 roms that are pre rooted and have cwm built into the kernel. once you have root and busybox, terminal emulator and root explorer can do what ever adb can do. you can even use a bluetooth keyboard and tv out if you hate the touch interface for doing things with the file system.
I am wondering if anyone knows of any way or if someone is working on a way to get ICS or JB to boot on a home-built PC? My PC is AMD 64, 8G RAM, etc. I have seen some instructions online, but they failed to mention that you must have a certain laptop or tablet. I would like to be able to tri-boot Android and run it whenever I feel like (probably use it the most). Thank you for any input.
Massive overkill. Why not simply run VMware and stick Android in a virtual machine?
android-x86
There is a project called "android-x86" - this might help you.
I tried android-x86. That is where I found out after several failures that you can only use a handful of specific Lenovo devices to boot into Android. Apparently there is a way to use Android 1.6, but who wants that.
As far as the overkill thing. Well I did build it as a workhorse PC. And I could run VM. But I would rather boot into it. I think it would be great for average tasks.
How difficult would it be to make it work for myself from AOSP?
Kernel build, hardware support etc. That's why I just run a VM for mime when I want to play. Also means I can access all my synched days such as SMS messages easily on my PC.
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Cant figure out where else to ask this but you all seem to be the brightest group of computer users I know.
I may be dreaming on this technology and I cant find much form web searches here is my thought please let me know if it or something similar would work.
Have a thumb drive running an OS (Ubuntu, or Windows 7,8 whatever) that is plugged into a USB input on a cable or WiFi modem. So technically this thumb drive is always on or I can somehow access it to turn it on. Now the tricky part. I would like to access this windows or Ubuntu via my android table or my note 2 and use it as though it is my desktop (as needed). I see I can use apps like "Jump" to access a freestanding computer with internet connection but wondering if I can take it a step further and just have everything housed on the thumb drive.
I ask this because I recently lost my tablet due to display issues. I am interested in alternatives before I go buy another full on computer.
thanks in advance for the assistance.
It sounds like you are asking for two separate things, booting from a USB drive, and accessing that computer via a tablet. For the first, you can use a program such as Unetbootin, to create a bootable linux distro onto a USB drive. With that, you should be able to have a fully functional linux distro on a USB stick. For the windows equivalent, you could try WintoFlash. As for the second part of your question, if you enable SSH on your computer, you should be able to SSH tunnel into your computer from any other device that has SSH. As android devices already allow themselves to be SSH'ed into, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it to access your computer remotely.
syung said:
It sounds like you are asking for two separate things, booting from a USB drive, and accessing that computer via a tablet. For the first, you can use a program such as Unetbootin, to create a bootable linux distro onto a USB drive. With that, you should be able to have a fully functional linux distro on a USB stick. For the windows equivalent, you could try WintoFlash. As for the second part of your question, if you enable SSH on your computer, you should be able to SSH tunnel into your computer from any other device that has SSH. As android devices already allow themselves to be SSH'ed into, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it to access your computer remotely.
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Thanks for the info! Yes you are correct I am trying to do both those things, however I am trying to do it without the need of a physical PC. I kind of want this boot able thumb drive or whatever to be my PC that I can access whenever needed. I am thinking this is kind of like a virtual server but I dont know how those are housed. i have heard there are cable modems with a USB drive on them to allow them to act as a server if I could just access my boot-able windows or Ubuntu thumb drive that is in the cable modem that would be what I'm wanting.
Does it have to be a USB device? If not, you could look into using a Rasberry Pi to do just that. If you want to have your own virtual server, you would need some sort of physical PC or other device, although if you only want to have a box that just constantly hosts VM's, you could look into running your own ESXi server. with ESXi, you could just turn on the box and any computer on the network should be able to use the VM's that are being hosted on the server. However, you do need the VM tools to do it so I do not know if you can use an Android Tablet, unless you figure out a way to SSH into the VM without using the tools or porting the tools over to Android.
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Does it have to be a USB device? If not, you could look into using a Rasberry Pi to do just that. If you want to have your own virtual server, you would need some sort of physical PC or other device, although if you only want to have a box that just constantly hosts VM's, you could look into running your own ESXi server. with ESXi, you could just turn on the box and any computer on the network should be able to use the VM's that are being hosted on the server. However, you do need the VM tools to do it so I do not know if you can use an Android Tablet, unless you figure out a way to SSH into the VM without using the tools or porting the tools over to Android.
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Well it can be anything really just prefer not to go through having a "box" if I can skip all the steps and just access it to run the OS. That raspberry Pi looks pretty cool wonder if there is something similar out there to run a windows OS. Looking at it if I rooted my phone apparently i coudl run Ubuntu on the phone
yes, basically you would just run a virtualbox on your phone and SSH into it as a localhost. It works the same way for SSHing into an actual box. The problem is that you wanted windows OS, and windows 7 uses at least 20 gb in storage just for the OS alone, therefore it would be impractical to run it from your phone. If you want windows at some point you will need to have a box even if it is just running as a server.