Hi folks.
My Tornado (imate sp5) was flashed from factory WM5 to WM6 with VJ Grace 3.3, it worked just fine. One day I lost conenctivity via activesync over the usb cable. BT activesync still works fine. I had not done anything to the connecter port other than using USB cable to activesync occasionally, and to use the wall charger.
After 2 months of going like this, I decided to upgrade to a newer Nitrogen ROM, and I enter the bootloader mode by pressig the camera button and plugging in the usb cable. The three color screen comes just fine.
Now, when I attach the USB cable, I do not see the small writing "USB" at the lower left hand corner.
Also I cannot connect it with Terraterm pro or the RUU utility, says phone is not connected via the USB.
But my usb cable still charges the phone when connected to the PC, even though activesync doesnt do anything.
Is there anything I can do?
Can it be a hardware error? Or a registry change I might have done using smarttweaks (enable/disable charging over usb-- I dont remember). If so can it be restored or undone?
I tried hard resets (clear storage and leftsoftkey/rightsoftkey/powerbutton combinations), but still it doesnt recognise activesync.
My other windows mobile devices get connected to same pc activesync with no problem, using the same data cable. Heck I even repaired by reflashing a friend's Wizard using the same pc and cable last week.
Is it possible that my tornado's usb connector port might have gone poof (it still charges the phone), and is there any remedy to that?
Thanks for reading, and please help..
Regards,
Steve
I've got the same problem. I can't connect via AS:/
I had a similar problem once in a while when I upgraded my phone to WM6; it seemed almost random. One day, the phone wouldn't switch out of Vibrate mode, and ActiveSync wouldn't synch with the phone. The first time it happened, I had VJGrace's 3.3, and 3.4 had just come out, so I went ahead and flashed it. I didn't format binfs or anything (which, in my experience isn't necessary for a functioning OS flash, just a clean one) but it flashed a fresh WM6 on, and the problem went away.
Then, a couple weeks later, I had the same problem again. It was right around the time that VJ's 3.7 came out, so I flashed that (again without format binfs) and it fixed the problem again.
Then, a couple weeks later, I had the same problem yet again. This time, Nitro's Platinum Edition had just come out, so I flashed it. Haven't had the problem again.
Interesting note - since I got my Tornado, my first Smartphone, I have only ever done the format binfs once - the first time I flashed WM6. Haven't done it since. It's my opinion that format binfs gives you a CLEAN install of WinMobile, but is not strictly necessary.
So, to summarize: try direct-flashing a new WM6 install. Just plug in the USB cable - ignore ActiveSync when it fails to synchronize - and run the updater program. It'll take care of the rest, even if AS doesn't synch.
djsleepwalker:
If you lost USB connectivity, how did you flash your phone?
Should I read between the lines that the bootloader connected properly and that it was a WM6 driver problem?
Exitao said:
djsleepwalker:
If you lost USB connectivity, how did you flash your phone?
Should I read between the lines that the bootloader connected properly and that it was a WM6 driver problem?
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To be totally honest, I'm not 100% certain. See, ActiveSync wouldn't SYNCH with the phone, but I could still "Explore" the phone. WM6 was active and working, and charged via USB cable, it just wouldn't synch.
So, after I connected the USB cable and ActiveSync popped up a message that said it couldn't synchronize with the phone, I just started up the ROMUpdateUtility program. It rebooted the phone into the bootloader for me.
I honestly never tried to start it back up in bootloader mode. The only reason I decided to just flash a new ROM was because I had already downloaded the ROM, but where I was at the time, I had no internet access (and therefore couldn't remember the steps before flashing the new ROM.) A friend of mine who has a Wizard (and who, I think, might be a member of this forum) suggested that I didn't *have* to format binfs to put an updated ROM on the phone, so I said screw it. I needed it out of Vibrate mode (my phone is my second alarm - my second line of defense against oversleeping) so I flashed the new ROM.
ninja edit: If ccpraveen is getting *nothing* when he connects the USB, then my suggestion probably won't help. But if Windows recognizes something being connected, and he can *explore* the phone, but ActiveSync just won't synchronize, then he's probably having the same problem I was. I can't tell for sure from reading his post.
Sweet...
Thanks for the comments, its all dejavu again
Djsleepwalker's comments did make me wonder, hey this is exactly my problem, except that mine doesnt connect in any manner.
Lots of similarities, problems started with VJ 3.3, on and off for a while with USB, then totally lost connection.
I am not concerned with formatting BINFS now, I somehow want to get the phone recognized.
Exitao has actually asked a VERY VALID query. It is indeed impossible to flash a phone without any USB connectivity (unless via an SD image or something). Djsleepwalker's issue was minimal, only that the PC was not showing up the activesync as connected, but indeed there WAS a connection, he could explore the phone from the pc etc, and I bet if he did go into the 3 color screen, he would have seen the "USB" on the left lower portion.
So, mine is just that. No connectivity. Nada. PC just sits dumb. Phone just gets charged, and finally into the fully charged green LED. Thats it.
Could there be something in VJ's ROM that is doing this?
I wonder, because a Wizard I once tried to repair would not let me flash upgrade either. I had to go back to a basic BUTTON ROM to get the upgrades running properly again. But there atleast I had connectivity then.
After I read DJ's comments, I tried running the RUU straight, without getting into the bootloader (for a change). Again its the same error 260. Here is a screenshot.
Anybody?
Regards
Steve
It seems, from the description, that the activesync profile became corrupt.
Deleting any device profiles from Activesync and connecting the phone as a new device might also solve the problem. However, it might be active synch on the phone that is the problem...
Anyone unsure how serious their problem is should just turn off the USB connect in activesync, start the phone into boot loader and do an "info 2" with terraterm pro.
If terraterm discovers the device, the USB is not the problem. It's activesynch.
Terraterm pro would not connect either.
I started the phone into bootloader by plugging in the usb while keeping the camera button pressed. Started the terraterm pro, selected Serial > USB, clicked Ok, Terraterm says ERROR, Cannot Open.
One minor thing, what do ppl normally see in their bootscreens? I see these lines, Tornado IPL 2.00 Tornado SPL 2.00.0000 and another line Tornado IU.
I dont remember seeing this third line saying Tornado IU before. Is it normal? It is in the middle zone( green coloured zone).
I believe my usb connector port might have a physical error. What else it could be. PC just will not detect ANY sort of USB connection.
Thanks again Exitao, I am stumped.
Regards
Steve
Have you tried any other USB ports on your computer? I know it's a longshot, but on my desktop PC one of the onboard USB ports just doesn't function at all. The other three do.
ninja edit: Maybe try it on another computer, too?
I tried on all four USB ports of my laptop, as well as on another Desktop PC I have.
Even without activesync installed, plugging in this should bring out a DING, saying something has been connected to the PC USB. (and asking for drivers, if Activesync was not installed. Here nothing happens, no DING). Remember, the same USB port is being used to sync my Wizard, Blackjack 2 and my old Himalaya even now.
Another possible reason, I was using a dumb chinese charger for charging the phone, after I lost the original one. Could that might have fried the usb pins?
ccpraveen said:
I tried on all four USB ports of my laptop, as well as on another Desktop PC I have.
Even without activesync installed, plugging in this should bring out a DING, saying something has been connected to the PC USB. (and asking for drivers, if Activesync was not installed. Here nothing happens, no DING). Remember, the same USB port is being used to sync my Wizard, Blackjack 2 and my old Himalaya even now.
Another possible reason, I was using a dumb chinese charger for charging the phone, after I lost the original one. Could that might have fried the usb pins?
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Please excuse me if I'm stating the obvious, or if I'm a bit off, as I don't haven't used my Tornado in a bit (upgraded to Touch Cruise), but in the last ROM I used, NitroGen's latest WM6 version, there was an option in settings to disable usb connectivity and only allow USB charging. Perhaps VJ's ROM has the same option and you activated it. Have you already checked this?
Did you remeber to uncheck "Alllow USB connections" in activesync before you connected the boot-loaded phone?
This may be a hardware problem. Is it possible to use a can of compressed air to blow out any dust or debris from the USB socket on the phone?
Do you have WMStorage on your phone? If not, can you load it onto your storage card and install/run the app and see if the PC will recognise your device as a USB mass storage device?
I guess you also want to check the Device Manager in Windows and check for any exclamaition marks (!) or "bangs." Both with the phone disconnected and connected, and maybe even with wmstorage enabled. If it does show your phone in the device manager, delete or remove the device in the manager and reboot.
(To get to device manager, you can right click on "my computer" and select "properties", or press the Windows key and the Pause/Break key, or go to the control panel applet.)
BTW: is this XP?
If you are using Vista, try the following:
Step 1: Press Start
Step 2: Select settings
Step 3: Select (6) Connections
Step 4: Select (0) More
Step 5: Select (1) USB to PC
Changing the type of USB connection your device uses can help with problems
connecting ActiveSync.
Step 6: Disable the option - Enable advanced network functionality
Step 7: Press done 3 times
Step 8: Return to main screen.
Step 9: Uninstall unrecognized USB device in device manager (on PC)
Step 10: reboot Phone and reconnect
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If XP, keep going...
You've stated that the PC is recognising your other devices. Isn't there a limit to the number of windows mobile devices you can sync or associate with one installation of activesync? Can you delete a device and try again?
Is USB charging enabled or disabled in your phone? Try toggling the setting to opposite whatever it is.
If you are using a firewall app, add these programs to your firewall's exemptions:
# Wcesmgr.exe
# Wcescomm.exe
# Rapimgr.exe
Or simply disable any firewalls, network traffic optimisers or possibly antivirus (some have network protections) app to test if that has an effect.
Ok guys..
I will try doing all these, step by step and lets see
And accept my sincere gratitude from my heart for detailing all these info for me, I am soo deeply moved
Sincerely
Steve
ccpraveen said:
Ok guys..
I will try doing all these, step by step and lets see
And accept my sincere gratitude from my heart for detailing all these info for me, I am soo deeply moved
Sincerely
Steve
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No need for thanx. If I helped, just give Nitro a donation on my behalf.
Well guys, with deep regret, I must say, even after trying all that, the phone stays put. PC wont recognise it, neither as a phone nor as a mass storage device. The connector port must have gone kaput.
I kinda feel stupid, u know, with all the tweaks and hacks out there, what use it is, if the dumb thing wont be recognised? Hmm.. So much for the tornado, now stuck at VJ 3.3 (unless someone find a way to flash via an SD image or something).
Well, thanks guys, your support did make me feel better, in the WM world, all is not lost, as long as there are good souls like you, willing to help, live and let live.
Regards
Steve.
PS: If the phone was not recognised in the bootloader mode, (ie even before the operating system has kicked in), I guess there should not be any difference if activesync was installed or not; and if or not mass storage option is enabled or not, right? Well, correct me if I am wrong, I think so. Could be wrong.
This is probably a useless comment, but have you tried using bluetooth instead of usb to connect to your computer?
Have u tried to delete the network card from XP device manager ?
U can also disable advanced network functionnality from your smartphone in "settings" -> "connections" -> "USB to PC"
Good luck
Can You Tried Different Usb Cable :d
i have some problem, after flashing to WM6 activesync or WM5torage can't connect..i have HTC prophet too, and i use same usb cable & PC, my HTC Prophet still can connect via activesync or WM5torage
*please..please..help us
I UPGRADEd vjgace Build_5.2.1616.18120_____v3.7 three days before today i can't connect to usb i tried diffrent app(activesync,wm5storage,internetsharing) but i can't connect so i go to bootloder mode and checked devicemanager i found device so i flashed nitrogenius rom and now working usb. try upgrade other ROM ON BOOTLODER MODE.
Hi friends,
I am having a very weird situation here and I need your help.
My phone was working perfectly after the last time I have upgraded the rom which happened a couple days ago. Then yesterday I have discovered that my phone is turning on and off on its own. It turns on, then after a few seconds it turns off and then turns on again.
When I hard reset, it gets stuck at the smart mobility screen.
I can enter the bootloader screen by pressing the camera key and inserting the usb cable. The tri-color screen shows usb at the bottom left corner. When I run mtty, it says the usb port cannot open.
I know that it has sufficient power in the batteries (tried with two different batteries I have). However, when I plug it to a wall charger the charging light doesn't turn on.
So basically I have a tornado which cannot boot, mtty seems not able to recognize it. Is there any way to push an SPL, radio rom or OS rom to the phone? Is it possible to flash a tornado with an SDcard?
I really need some help here as I am out of ideas. thanks in advance.
Did you try hard resetting it? (While off holding both softkeys and then pushing the power button)? If so, flashing from card is possible...you just have to install the original ROM though. Google this: Tor_TMOUS_10140_191916_10900_SHIP.exe
Extract it then copy the nbf file to your memory card.
You may have to rename it and change the headers though...that I don't know
Here might help you by the way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409286&highlight=original+rom
Good luck!
Your problem is more likely seems the power key is stuck.
thacen said:
Your problem is more likely seems the power key is stuck.
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I am almost sure that this is not the case because I can use the power button for shutting the device off and restarting it, etc.
My only hope is to be able to flash from the SDCard now, as unforsakenrule mentioned. The problem is I need a step by step guide to do that.
burkay said:
When I run mtty, it says the usb port cannot open.
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Did you disable the USB connection from ActiveSync properties?
I had had a similar problem which was solved after reinstalling the ROM.
NiTroGenious said:
Did you disable the USB connection from ActiveSync properties?
I had had a similar problem which was solved after reinstalling the ROM.
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sure I did. The problem is no matter what the device is not recognized by the pc. mtty, activesync, tera term, etc. all fail whether usb connection is enabled or not. Weirdly, in the bootloader menu it says USB in the bottom left.
It really sucks, because I have the bootloader there but I cannot load anything to the device to recover it.
While it is in bootloader screen activesync couldn't connect or it could not detect your device. If you want to connect by teratermpro you need to disable USB connection from active sync otherwise teraterm could not connect your device.
I think your PC will not show you any connection symbol while connecting in bootloader but you may hear some sound while connecting or disconnecting.
One thing you can try is just try reflashing a stable rom by just running RomUpdateUtility. If it cannot find your device then check on your PC's Hardware device manager, if there is any unworking driver. if such driver is there just uninstall it and try connecting again.
May be it can solve your problem.
thanks for the advise, but I pretty much tried everything... everything except an SDCard flash. And that, I don't know how to do. I have been an HTC user for the last few years. This iMate SP5, which I owned a year ago, belongs to my sister now. I now have a Hermes, waiting for the prices to come down before ordering my touch pro. I flashed tens of roms in both devices, connected using mtty, teraterm etc. many times. This is the first time I am totally left clueless and I believe this is what we call a brick, indeed
This morning I tried to flash bikertibi's WM6.5 ROM.
In the middle of flashing, the connection was lost and now my phone is stuck in the tricolor bootloader screen.
the weird thing is that the screen keeps flashing? is like it keeps restarting every 15 seconds or so. So it can't retain a connection with my computer long enough for me to do anything.
when i take out the battery and leave it for a while before placing it back, it could hold the connection for a longer period of time (but not that long. probably for a minute?).
i can't figure out what is the problem. I've changed the USB cable and still no change. could it be the battery has problems or is it a hardware problem?
many thanks to anyone who could help (tho i'm not optimistic since this part of the forum seems quite dead)
well
Now...this is vry important ...... plz do at ur own risk...
remove the battery
Cut ur data cable (USB) and u'll find a white wire in da bundle of wires ... connect it to the battery plug near the camera
All the others , u connect to the last plug...(there are 6 plugs for putting battery...do not connect to the middle ones)
now connect the USB cable to ur "xp" pc.
the pc will recognize the device and start syncing...
run the rom u want AFTER COMLETING SYNC ... It is sure to succeed ...
plz if any thing happend let me know
cscheng:
I losted a lot of times comm upgrading Roms and NOTHING HAPPENS! (sorry for screaming...) Try to search some info at forums but....
-Try to close your upgrading soft (PC)
-Switch off-on your phone
-Connect usb cable again and try to upgrade now.
(maybe it refuses 2 or 3 times the upgrading, but I was trying and after 4 times it was like ever!)
Please, make it as your own risk.
Good luck friend!!
I have same Problem PLease Help
Have S200 G3 in Tri Color screen that gets to 50% on ROM load before it starts shutting off n on. It does the same thing if it is plugged into a pc via usb cable w/ battery installed after a short period of time.
It does not turn off n on it it is simply sitting there w/ the battery installed. Only when it is plugged in w/ a USB.
Does some 1 have access to info on phone recovery via flash card and Rom that I can use.
If not steps on resolving the problem long enough to load a basic Rom on the unit.
cscheng said:
This morning I tried to flash bikertibi's WM6.5 ROM.
In the middle of flashing, the connection was lost and now my phone is stuck in the tricolor bootloader screen.
the weird thing is that the screen keeps flashing? is like it keeps restarting every 15 seconds or so. So it can't retain a connection with my computer long enough for me to do anything.
when i take out the battery and leave it for a while before placing it back, it could hold the connection for a longer period of time (but not that long. probably for a minute?).
i can't figure out what is the problem. I've changed the USB cable and still no change. could it be the battery has problems or is it a hardware problem?
many thanks to anyone who could help (tho i'm not optimistic since this part of the forum seems quite dead)
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Provide better break down, if possible w pics of actual steps. Ex. I don'd understand what you mean about the white wire and middle conectors in battery section. Only allow the other 2 to connect or ???
Dr.Thrax said:
well
Now...this is vry important ...... plz do at ur own risk...
remove the battery
Cut ur data cable (USB) and u'll find a white wire in da bundle of wires ... connect it to the battery plug near the camera
All the others , u connect to the last plug...(there are 6 plugs for putting battery...do not connect to the middle ones)
now connect the USB cable to ur "xp" pc.
the pc will recognize the device and start syncing...
run the rom u want AFTER COMLETING SYNC ... It is sure to succeed ...
plz if any thing happend let me know
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Hi there...
A quick question about the USB...
Is is at all possible to have a USB-port that can still charge the phone, but at the same time is "dead" when you try to connect the phone to the computer ??
I have also asked about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179171
The story is that the Phone (SonyEricsson X10i) can be charged fine, but when i connect it to the computer, my computer say that the hardware is not recognized, nomatter if it is in flash-mode, mounted from recovery or in the normal way.
And the phone don´t even show anything about USB connection in the status bar eigther.
I have tried 5 different computers now, and 2 different usb cables.
I have also a X10 mini and a Desire HD that works fine on all the computers and both cables.
I have tried to remove software, remove drivers, clean computers, reboot, check the memory-card in the phone, install software and drivers and all other things i can think off...
It is two windows 7 and three windows XP computers btw.
So is it at all possible that the phone can still be charged, but data-connection fail ?
As i see it, there must be some kind of data-exchange or else the computers would not even say "hardware not recognized"...?!?
I'm not quite sure I understood your question correctly, but let's see if this helps:
I used to have phone that didn't have drivers for Windows I used at the time (I think it was Windows 7). That meant that Windows wouldn't recognize it (when plugged via USB cable) and will not therefore provide power to that USB port (hence the phone will not charge).
I was able to get around the problem by going to the device manager, locating the relevant "unknown device" and force installing some random drivers for it -- I don't even remember what it was that I picked -- something that Windows would allow me to do. Of course the port wouldn't work as a data connection like this, but since Windows now 'knew' the device, it powered the USB port and I was able to charge my phone from it.
My problem is that I actually can charge the phone ok...
But I am not able to make a data connection between the computer and the phone at all...
My question is then, if the usb connector in my phone can somehow be broken even though I am still able to charge the phone...?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
I'm fairly sure that yes, the contacts or the controller can be broken so that you can still charge but be unable to establish data connection.
Hi all, I'm afraid I already know the answer to my question but I'll still ask if there's even a slight chance to get this fixed on my own.
I had this issue on Android 8.1 where my Pixel kept saying "Supplying power to connected device via USB" even without anything connected to it, (it started doing that one day without any reason) tapping the notification allowed me to switch to "Charge this device" and then turn on MTP mode, battery life was terrible but I wasn't that much bothered by it because I am an Android developer so I kept it connected in USB Debugging mode most of the time anyway.
When I got the notification for Android 9 update I decided to update hoping it'd fix the USB issue but after the update it now always says "Charging connected device" and tapping the notification does bring up the "USB Preference" screen and it allows me to switch to "USB Controlled by this device" and it starts charging but there's no way to switch "Charge only" mode to anything else, ADB does not see it, fastboot does not see it and there's no persistent notification on the phone about it being connected via USB at this point (in any mode). My understanding is that this is a hardware issue but Oreo still allowed me to workaround this and get the USB debugging connected.
Is there anyway I can get back to Oreo without using fastboot flash or any other solution to this?
Thanks for reading.
PS. I'm on Ubuntu but I can access a Windows machine if required and bootloader is already unlocked.
I'm curious if you're able to connect to a USB OTG storage device.
I'm having this issue connecting it to my windows 10 laptop.. the cable recognizes it.. starts charging.. shows option on phone to change type of connection.. but not matter which one i change it too, the computer will not pull lit up as a drive to see the files..
Jaws4God said:
I'm having this issue connecting it to my windows 10 laptop.. the cable recognizes it.. starts charging.. shows option on phone to change type of connection.. but not matter which one i change it too, the computer will not pull lit up as a drive to see the files..
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Same here! I plug the cable into the Windows 10 computer, I even can change the mode from charging to MTP file transfer, but the device won't show up in the Windows Explorer. It appears under connected devices though.
My Pixel 2 XL would not connect to PC for file browsing if USB debugging of Android Apps was enabled in developer settings. Didn't matter which option I chose to connect. IDK if that is expected or not, but it took me a while to figure out. Happened Spring 2018, idk if Google fixed it.
pyro226 said:
My Pixel 2 XL would not connect to PC for file browsing if USB debugging of Android Apps was enabled in developer settings. Didn't matter which option I chose to connect. IDK if that is expected or not, but it took me a while to figure out. Happened Spring 2018, idk if Google fixed it.
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I don't think i've tried to turn that mode off.. i'm so used to needing it on for the computer to recognize and connect to all my previous Android Devices.. thanks for the recommendation...
post-mortem said:
I'm curious if you're able to connect to a USB OTG storage device.
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Couldn't find any OTG cable to try that but strangely enough a few days back I connected it to PC for charging and Nautilus popped up, same cable, same USB port and it started working all of sudden. Did verify with a couple of other cables and different ports and everything is working fine since.
"Charging connected device" notification never appeared again, only thing different (when it started working again) was that I was out of the air conditioned room most of those days, might it be moisture or something like that?
I'm back to my normal routine for a few days now and it's still 100% normal, will have to see if it stays that way.
Sorry for late response.
Here's an update in case someone else runs into this situation, I can say this with 99% certainty that is caused by the blackish residue build-up around the USB port over time. It's not too much that it's visible just by looking into the port but it's enough to make the device behave like this.
Here's what I did to get rid of it, took a match stick (don't use anything metal) and broke it in half making a sharp edge on both broken pieces, took the non coated piece and inserted sharp edge in the bottom side of the port and gently wiggled it around while applying some pressure towards the connector (just a little bit, make sure you don't break anything), did this for about 45 seconds then took out the match stick and the part that was touching the connector had turned blackish (I guess this is when you know you have 'cleaned' it enough?), repeated the same process on the top side of the port with a new match stick piece (guess you can use the same one after cleaning it with a tissue), the only difference was that this time applied the pressure in opposite side (other side of connector), device was on during all this time.
It builds up again after a while (~3 months) so I had to repeat the entire process again when it started doing that again at the start of December but it wasn't that annoying this time because I knew exactly what was wrong and how to get rid of it, device is still working fine 100%.
I'm simply sharing my experience and not encouraging anyone to do this but if you do decide to try this be sure not to use anything metal and don't break the connector inside the port (turning the device off would be a good idea too) and you'll be fine and if something does go wrong I won't be responsible.