Internal Storage 2GB? Why Is that? - G Tablet General

So I managed to get a ROM going on my tab that came today, and all is pretty good so far. One question tho; I went to my settings --> SD card usage or whatever its called and my internal memory is showing 1.79GB total space.
My SD card is 16GB and that's showing up fine as 14 or whatever FREE, since I partitioned at 2048/0.
I don't get why the internal storage is 1.79. Shoudn't it be 16GB or whatever since that's how much this tablet has? I'm confused.
Thanks!

I may be wrong on this (Developers, please correct me if I am wrong) but I think the 2GB is reserved for the Android system and the remaining space is what you can use for apps, etc.

stuaross said:
I may be wrong on this (Developers, please correct me if I am wrong) but I think the 2GB is reserved for the Android system and the remaining space is what you can use for apps, etc.
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if thats the case, why won't it show the remaining 14G or whatever hmmm

The 16gig is divided as 2gig for apps and 14gig for storage (/sdcard). After format and overhead you get what you see.
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So how do i mount my internal? Im only able to mount my microsd card..

Actually I take that back. I can only mount my internal storage to my computer but not my microsd card. I have no idea how to do that...

That's normal behavior for the gtablet. There is no built in method for mounting the external SD to your computer.

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SD Card problem

I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
jimbo831 said:
I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
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You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
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vinnyjr said:
You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
Thanks
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Sorry, but I can't answer that one yet, I haven't even ordered my G2x yet. I just read about this issue from another thread on this forum because apparently it was the same setup on the Vibrant. Perhaps some Vibrant owners can chime in with a suggestion? Not sure if it's possible to put apps to SD or if they just automatically go to the internal storage. However, if I were you, I'd rather have the apps on internal storage and save the SD for videos, pictures, music, etc. The internal storage will be more reliable (not fail later) and faster than the SD. 5GB should be more than enough space for app storage.
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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tsquire99 said:
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
jimbo831 said:
Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
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I just never had that set up before with any of my android phones. I just didn't know how to put any files to the ext sd card, I foolled around with it and basicly I just went into my file manager and long pressed the app of file, copy, went into the extsd card and paste.
Thanks for the help.
I have had the MyTouch 4G and the Nexus One, neither had that set up.
PS this phone flies.
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
bguzmanz2 said:
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
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It doesn't come with any sd card. Supply your own.
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
crazythunder said:
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
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Yes, this is true. However, from 2.2 up, Android allows you to move apps to the "SD card" (or in this case the 5GB extended internal storage) as long as the developer enabled this feature. This way large games and other such apps don't use up all the storage.
bguzmanz2 said:
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
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Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
aironeous said:
Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
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Having a Nexus One I put most of my Apps on ext 3. Worked great and always had over 140 mb of free memory space which kept my phone very fast.
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vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I think the idea is your apps/data go into internal 5GB (which is mounted as SDCARD) and then you use your SDCARD for media (mounted as /SDCARD/_ExternalSD)
yup.. that is right mobilehavoc.
The phone has no "sdcard" when you get it new, but it's got basically 5.35GB internal SD already built in.. So you have plenty of storage, plus you have 1.3GB for apps, and can move them to that 5GB if needed.
Although I just put in my 16GB and tried to titanium restore and it doesn't find anything cuz it's looking in /sdcard and my file is on my sd card, and the g2x has that as /external_sd
that is irritating, will I need to move all the important stuff over, and downloads and pictures n such will all from now on go to the internal 5GB. so move everything over and use actual SD for rest
Hey there, so I'm having a different sd card problem, but I can't find any threads directly related to it so I'm just going to post it here because it seems just as good a place as any.
So yesterday morning, about 3am or so, cause I'm weird like that, I finished the movie I was watching, so I went to go move it off my phone and put another one on, so I hooked up my USB and connected to Ubuntu, the sdcard popped up and I deleted the file, then deleted the trash file but when I delete the trash file I get an error message saying Error removing file: Directory not empty, and no matter what way I try to edit my sd, it won't change, it won't save any new data or delete the old, I've tried reformating with the phone, reformating with ubuntu, I've tried file managers, using a micro to sd conversion chip and putting it in my card reader, but no matter what I try my sd won't change, somebody please help me out, I just got the 16gb card like a month ago, but I bought it in Austria so I can't really return it, because I'm living in Italy.
Thanks in advanced.
Never mind my last post, I did a wipe of my sd card from the phone, pluged it back into ubuntu, and then magically, I could erase all the files.
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
Dragon509 said:
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
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See it's really a hard problem to solve. I'm coming from an Incredible which had 8GB of internal storage but it was mounted as /emmc. This meant no app except the custom camera and music apps and maybe one or two apps specially designed by devs could use the internal storage.
The way the G2X does it, all apps can see the internal storage and use it. All media apps can see the external SD as well. But you are right, the dev would need to update the app. Although I don't see why it is so difficult - they could give the user the option to a path so you could put in /sdcard/_ExternalSD/
And that would work.

Internal Memory wasted?

I don't know what happened but for some reason the music app only detects music from external, and all my music is on internal. Anyone know what to do? Since it doesn't have a way to set a directory....
Edit: Ok...i checked Storage Settings and it says my Total Internal Memory is 1.83GB while my External is 5.22GB when it should be the other way around...anyone know whats wrong?...
SnipeySnake said:
I don't know what happened but for some reason the music app only detects music from external, and all my music is on internal. Anyone know what to do? Since it doesn't have a way to set a directory....
Edit: Ok...i checked Storage Settings and it says my Total Internal Memory is 1.83GB while my External is 5.22GB when it should be the other way around...anyone know whats wrong?...
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What ROM are you running? It detects it from both for me, I'm running the latest CM7 KANG.
Eaglesblood 2.3.7 latest, but its the music player from the previous version since i don't like the new MusicĀ³
SnipeySnake said:
Eaglesblood 2.3.7 latest, but its the music player from the previous version since i don't like the new MusicĀ³
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Hmm, well I'm using Google Music, so maybe that's why? There should be an option in the CMsettings menu to swap the mount points.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Hmm, well I'm using Google Music, so maybe that's why? There should be an option in the CMsettings menu to swap the mount points.
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Yeah I tried it but either way the mount points mess up. When "Use internal storage" is checked. SD card: 5.22GB(2.02GB free)[This should be the 8GB internal storage], Internal Storage:1.48GB(195MB free)[I don't even know where this storage came from], and Additional Storage /mnt/emmc: 1.83GB(878MB free)[This should be my 2GB SD card].
Now when I uncheck "Use internal storage", the "Additional Storage /mnt/emmc:" and "SD Card" switch places, leaving the Internal Storage with that Unknown storage space.
SnipeySnake said:
Yeah I tried it but either way the mount points mess up. When "Use internal storage" is checked. SD card: 5.22GB(2.02GB free)[This should be the 8GB internal storage], Internal Storage:1.48GB(195MB free)[I don't even know where this storage came from], and Additional Storage /mnt/emmc: 1.83GB(878MB free)[This should be my 2GB SD card].
Now when I uncheck "Use internal storage", the "Additional Storage /mnt/emmc:" and "SD Card" switch places, leaving the Internal Storage with that Unknown storage space.
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The internal storage is split. It is 8GB, but only 5.22 is used for internal SD. the rest is used for OS and apps and such.
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The internal storage is split. It is 8GB, but only 5.22 is used for internal SD. the rest is used for OS and apps and such.
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Oh ok, but for some reason I can't get it to recognize that the 5.22GB is the internal storage, since it has all my apps and music.
Is there a way in CM7 to put the apps on the internal (5gb drive) and the media on the sd card (my 16gb card)? It seems to be either all or nothing.
If I switch my external to be the sd card, the 5gb drive is pretty much wasted, right?
timmyjoe42 said:
Is there a way in CM7 to put the apps on the internal (5gb drive) and the media on the sd card (my 16gb card)? It seems to be either all or nothing.
If I switch my external to be the sd card, the 5gb drive is pretty much wasted, right?
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Is it like that for CM7 nightly's too? Thats odd, since its kind of a major issue.
Perhaps someone can write up something about our storage?
I know, that I'm a bit confused about it. At one point, I was looking at this thread, about changing the mount point
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144553&highlight=emmc
There was also this mod as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093231&highlight=emmc
But there has been the CM "Use Internal Storage" option as well...
What is the best use of our storage, internal and sdcard? Should we use a mod to change mount points?

[Q] What EXACTLY does it mean to move an app to the SD Card

OK. So I know you can "move" apps to your SD card. Let me get straight to the point. On my Epic 4G Touch, I moved an app that was about 20MB in size and had about 1.2GB of downloaded data. I "moved" the app to the SD card and saw no space change on my Ext-SD card. My apps are installed in the phone, about 2GB. The downloaded data is saved on the USB storage, about 10GB. This is still part of the internal SD card. Meaning, I have about 12GB of actually personal usage. My apps save on a 2GB partition (Not too sure if I should call it a partition) and my other data saves on a 10GB partition aka USB Storage.
I guess I'm asking when an app is moved to the SD card, what is happening? Is it moving an app to my USB storage, or my Ext.SD card? I also ask this because I moved an app that was 1.2GB in size and saw no change in my Ext.SD card space. My USB Storage did change, but it was in MB, there was no GB difference. So now I'm wondering what exactly is happening when moving apps to the SD.
Also, is moving an app to the SD the same as installing an app on the SD or should those be referred to as 2 different things? And also, when referring to the "SD card" that apps are moving to, is the SD Card the USB Storage or the internal one, or is it the Ext.SD card?
I'm asking because I'm going to start using my phone as a console via MHL. LoL!! Sadly my Nexus 7 can't do it.:crying: So I'm going to start downloading all my big games again. I want to move most of those games to my 32GB SD card Class 10. Got it on sale for $25!! :highfive:
I'm sure it being a class 10, things wouldn't falter too much. I know apps' performance hinders when being on an Ext.SD card. My only issue is it doesn't seem like apps are actually being placed on my SD card. I have Apps2SD free from Amazon. Would that do the trick?
I want to have ALL my games. LoL!!
Batman
Spiderman
GTA 3
NOVA 2 and 3
Modern Combat 3
As you can see, that's probably 10GB already. LoL!! And I'm still not done with that list. =.P
EDIT: Oh yea, forgot to say thanks for anyone helping. Just in case I forget to hit the thanks button.

[Q] Reclaim internal space? (data2sd)

Is there a way to make the internal storage more usable after doing a data2sd (and even a rom2sd) install? I understand that if the card is pulled the tab will want something to fall back on, but it need not be huge. In my case I have under 6 gigs available from internal storage, and that just seems like a waste. There is a link to my old internal storage space I found as well, but is is separate and hard to get to. Anyone have any ideas? (and yes, I have been searching. Everything I find is on partitioning the external SD)
Thank you for all of your excellent work on improving the TF700!

dji crystalsky /data 1,5gb full limitation.

how can I use more than 10 apps?
which twrp, app2sd, dalvik symlink can I use, bec their lack of reason of designing /data partition to 3gb? (64gb inside)
Assumed your device has slot for external SD-card and assumed your device's Android supports Adoptable Storage then you can extend Android's storage memory up to capacity of external SD-card.
Note: Android still installs the apps on the internal memory and dumps their data on the external SD card. So, you are deprived of installing any further apps if your phone has a scarcity of internal storage.
FYI: Once an APK got installed, you can delete the APK to regain storage space.
it does have 51gb more free space on that internal 64gb, so but im tryin to solve it with link2sd, and a 2partitioned external sd
regh said:
it does have 51gb more free space on that internal 64gb, so but im tryin to solve it with link2sd, and a 2partitioned external sd
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You don't want to load and slow your CrystalSky down with much more than you need to fly. It wasn't exactly meant to be a tablet.
Droid4200 said:
You don't want to load and slow your CrystalSky down with much more than you need to fly. It wasn't exactly meant to be a tablet.
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I bought it only for navigation in bright sunshine. because other tablets difficult to see, don't care about flying, it's too expensive
regh said:
I bought it only for navigation in bright sunshine. because other tablets difficult to see, don't care about flying, it's too expensive
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I installed a few programs regularly from appstore (also side loaded) then after they installed moved apps to SD card. Saved a lot of space on the Crystal Sky, but there are a few system apps that can't be.

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