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4G Back online - battery worse

Before 4G went out few days ago, I was getting pretty good battery life (40% - 60% remaining by bed time). Since it's been back online, my phone is only lasting about 6 or 7 hours before it starts to die.
Has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since 4G has come back online?
Thanks all.

I noticed the same thing

Same... And slower speeds.
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samesies....Idk what verizon did when the network went down but it was for the worse. Ever since I have had terrible battery life (did full restore, not that) and I lose data ALL the time. It's atrocious I have to reboot my phone like 7x to get data back. It will show as connected, but won't actually transfer anything.
I want this update pushed out immediately and hope that it fixes my data issue. I'm tired of not having data especially when I need it most (GPS)
Hopefully they get their network figured out so I can go back to using my phone like I did with my incredible

I'm not noticing any difference in speed or battery.

Thanks for all of the replies everyone.
Yesterday, I ran my phone using 3G only; I turned off LTE. The battery was amazing (running Tesla Coil and lean kernel).
I'm wondering if I should just leave 4G off until I really need it to download a file or something. It would be a different story if Verizon was charging additional fees for LTE.

I had the same problem a few days ago, shortly after the network came back up. I noticed that my 4G signal, which once was always at "full," would bounce between half 4G, full 4G and then down to 3G without really evening moving the phone.
I think that, despite the network coming up, it still wasn't perfect on the signal and that's what was killing people's batteries faster. I'm now getting a solid signal and have noticed my battery life returning back to the way it way before. No empirical data here, just my observation.

my phone is jumping between 4g, 3g and no data so often that its worthless for downloading or browsing the web today. Been having this issue since the outage. I assume this is killing my battery.

It's much better today! I'm guessing the network wasn't fully functional until recently.
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I am getting amaign 4G speed again. startign today, been flaky even after they fixed it.

I wasn't sure if it was because I installed Tesla yesterday or what, but I had only 30% battery drain in 15 hours yesterday, albeit on 3G.

I've been using 4g pretty consistently since I got the phone a few days ago, and haven't noticed any real battery life issues. I wonder if you really only get issues when the phone is bouncing back and forth between 3 and 4g?

Searching for Service (aka why I'm ditching my Charge)

So I have two Samsung Droid Charges on my account.
One of them is completely stock, very minimal apps because it is a work phone and has to comply with provisioning standards for my company.
One is my personal phone, which I have rooted and have used various versions of Gummy and Humble, currently running Gummy 2.0 with the EP1Q radio.
While I absolutely love the screen and form-factor of this phone (even the hardware buttons), it seems to have a fatal flaw that I cannot abide. Verizon and Samsung both seem to be oblivious to the issue, but I have experienced it on both phones in several major markets (Atlanta, Charlotte, Norfolk, Richmond, etc).
Occasionally, my phone will simply lose all signal. It will display a 4G/3G/1x icon depending on my coverage area, but the bars will be empty with an "X" and I am unable to make phone calls or send text messages.
At other times, the data connection will simply disappear for no reason, even when I have solid coverage. There are areas where I know I have good service (my office, my home) and I simply lose data for no reason.
Each of these issues occurs randomly as I will have one phone sitting next to the other with signal or data, while the other one does not have it.
Sometimes switching airplane mode on/off will work, but usually I end up having to reboot the phone.
I am posting this to see if there are others experiencing these same issues because Verizon is giving me some push back, insisting that I go through the replacement process (receive a refurb Charge), despite the fact that one of the phones is already a replacement and one was a retail unit off the shelf, indicating the issue is - if not widespread - certainly not isolated.
If there are more people notifying Verizon, they may make it easier for those of us who experience these issues and cannot wait for a software update for which Samsung is notoriously slow at releasing.
(Side Note: The issue seems to be way worse in 3G coverage areas, but it also happens in 4G areas.)

its a known bug with the modems a lot of people have data drop problems. hopefully when GB official is released it will have a better modem
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We would've had GB a LONG time ago if Sammy wasn't fiddling around with the stupid Galaxy S2. They neglect every other phone on their lineup just because the Galaxy S2 sold so well.

I had 'spotty coverage' with my Charge with some of the older ROMs, however, since I have been on EP1Q (Stock debloated) I have had so few issues that I am perfectly happy to use the ROM as my daily driver.
The radio is fantastic as are my DL speeds. Auto brightness works again as well as the hardware key backlights. The best part of the ROM is the absolutely fantastic battery life! I take my phone off the charger at about 7am every morning and still have 50% left on the battery after almost 15 hours. Throughout that time, I send and recieve alot of email and text messages, make several short calls to colleagues and of course there is the innevitable round of Angry Birds while on the can.
All in all, I love this device!!!
~E~

It happens to all of us. Go try getting a new SIM.
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I had the problem with my Thunderbolt I bought on the first day fought with version constantly they replaced 4 of them before they sent me this charge, and guess what same issues. I am not a expert but I believe it's the network. Lte has problems and Verizon isn't saying anything for fear of looking bad. They have invested their future in it but there are issues and holding signal is one of them. Battery life is another that has to improve Apple can't release a phone until this is worked out unlike android you can't pop another battery in after 6 hours. BTW 3g had the same issues in the beginning
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I was having the same problem as you. Would go from 3g to 1x to nothing. Sometimes it would return in a few seconds sometime i would have to toggle data on/off/on or airplane mode and sometimes it would take a full rebot to fix the problem. I also would lose voice too but didnt happen no where near as often.
Ive had the problems from day one on stock non rooted EE4 and all the rooted roms ive ran. I didnt want to replace my phone with a recert phone so i got the verizon tech to just replace my sim card. Also updated my modem to the newest one the day after i got the new sim card.
Ive been running the new GC 2.0 FE for almost a week, along with a new Sim card and updated modems and have yet to lose voice or data at all.
As another suggested try getting verizon to replace your sim and/or reflash the newest modem. Hope that helps you it did for me.

give the EP1Q modem a try, my signal has improved immensely in the few crappy areas around here

Thanks for all the suggestions.
I'm already on my second SIM card and I've experienced the issue on both my stock Charge and my Charge that has been on Gingerbread (currently GC 2.0) and has the EP1Q radio.
I'm just going to head up to VZW next week, show them the threads and hopefully have one of the phones flip out while I'm there and not leave until they either offer a lateral replacement or give me a real time frame for a software fix.

jarnoldsr said:
I had the problem with my Thunderbolt I bought on the first day fought with version constantly they replaced 4 of them before they sent me this charge, and guess what same issues. I am not a expert but I believe it's the network. Lte has problems and Verizon isn't saying anything for fear of looking bad. They have invested their future in it but there are issues and holding signal is one of them. Battery life is another that has to improve Apple can't release a phone until this is worked out unlike android you can't pop another battery in after 6 hours. BTW 3g had the same issues in the beginning
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Dude.. That's an excellent point about the IPhone.. Once you Die.... Your Dead! God I Love me Droid Charge !

RaiderWill said:
Dude.. That's an excellent point about the IPhone.. Once you Die.... Your Dead! God I Love me Droid Charge !
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Actually, it's not. My wife has an iPhone and the battery lasts FOREVER in that damn thing. It irritates the hell out of me.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE my gummy charge and would never buy an iPhone but her battery life is WAY WAY better than any Droid phone. Sure, you can't replace the battery but hers never fails to make it through a day of HEAVY use anyway so she doesn't care.......
~John

jmorton10 said:
Actually, it's not. My wife has an iPhone and the battery lasts FOREVER in that damn thing. It irritates the hell out of me.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE my gummy charge and would never buy an iPhone but her battery life is WAY WAY better than any Droid phone. Sure, you can't replace the battery but hers never fails to make it through a day of HEAVY use anyway so she doesn't care.......
~John
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Some of my friends have iPhones too (the dumb ones ) and the only thing im jealous of is the damn battery life. It has a 1420mah battery and easily lasts twice as long as an android phone. The iPod Touch (i happen to have a 3rd gen from before i got an android phone) lasts for a whole week with a 950 mah battery. i want you to get that galaxy player wifi and try getting that thing to last a whole week. I know that there are much more proccesses running in android and real multitasking (not the **** apple feeds to there customers on a white pretty boxed platter) but still, thats how they get that battery life, by limiting functionality. I am not pro apple or completely anti-apple, more pro android and google , but one thing apple has got in the bag is battery life.

An Android device can run just as long if not longer than an iPhone, it simply depends on usage. I'm pretty sure the way Android handles multitasking compared to iOS and push notifications play a role, too.
Regardless, my Nook Color can idle for a couple of weeks with a custom Froyo ROM and kernel. My Droid Charge has lasted me over a day with moderate usage, easily. With heavy use, I get 12-16 hours pretty easily. If I turn off data completely and only use my phone for texting and voice calls, the phone lasts two days, no problem.
Usage is key, and is often misunderstood and judged improperly/subjectively.

But at the end of the day. My droid charge is out of battery and my girls iphone is at 70 percent. I remember reading somewhere that apple has special patented battery technology too. Android needs some special battery technology. I will gladly pay more for a better product.
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jmorton10 said:
Actually, it's not. My wife has an iPhone and the battery lasts FOREVER in that damn thing. It irritates the hell out of me.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE my gummy charge and would never buy an iPhone but her battery life is WAY WAY better than any Droid phone. Sure, you can't replace the battery but hers never fails to make it through a day of HEAVY use anyway so she doesn't care.......
~John
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It's because the iPhone doesn't have that obnoxious hog we call the LTE radio. If you set your phone to CDMA(it disables 4g) you can effectively double your battery life. I disable mine if I'm going somewhere and I know I won't be back in 10+ hours. Or if I'm going somewhere that doesn't have 4g, the battery life with 3g only is CRAZY.

afmracer6 said:
But at the end of the day. My droid charge is out of battery and my girls iphone is at 70 percent. I remember reading somewhere that apple has special patented battery technology too. Android needs some special battery technology. I will gladly pay more for a better product.
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You fail to describe how you and your "girl" use the phone. My money says that you use your phone more heavily than she does. As another poster mentioned, how you use the phone and what apps you are running make a big difference. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the results were quite a bit different if ya'll switched phones for a day, but continued using them the way you would normally use your phones.

You can't compare your gfs iphone to your Charge if you're using the LTE modem. Completely different animals. Once iphones have lte, then you can compare away.
Besides I get incredible battery life from my Charge. I can easily last 20 hrs.
Back to topic however, yes I too have problems with connectivity regardless of Roms or modems I've flashed. If I had to guess, I would say its a network issue with LTE phones... anybody know if the Revolution has similar problems? I believe the TBolt does as someone mentioned earlier, but nobody seems to talk about the Revolution.
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Well just to update, I had a pretty serious situation that was caused by this issue. Verizon is unable to provide a firm timeline for an update and won't even confirm that any forthcoming updates will resolve the issue (which they have not yet officially recognized).
That said, the situation I encountered was significant enough that they are issuing a credit toward my bill and the GM of my local corporate store is working on having my phones replaced.
As much as I absolutely love this phone (as one user said in another thread, SAMOLED+ is like the heroin of phone displays), having a phone that is unreliable in important or emergency situations is just absolutely not acceptable to me.
If they do allow me to change phones, I will do my best to move to another 4G phone (not the tbolt obviously) and I will report back on whether or not it appears to be a network issue.

You will find most of your problems will follow you from one 4g phone to another. There are already a few grumblings in the bionic forums radio staying locked on and battery and that is a huge battery
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I don't think it's necessarily a DC problem. Here lately my fascinate has been getting 1x locks and my DC has been doing that too. Maybe it's a network issue?
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[Q] going back from ics to gb

how do i go from ics back to gb?

Use Odin, how to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
SKYROCKET FIRMWARE REPOSITORY:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548750
I think you can also use nandroid backup of GB if you have one to go back to GB.

why would you want to
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xxsicknessxx said:
why would you want to
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Because it's unstable, battery life, modem sucks, no band switching, no bln, force closes render the phone useless for half a minute, the list goes on and on. It's cool to hop on ics for a bit, but it's not ready to be my daily

xcrazydx said:
Because it's unstable, battery life, modem sucks, no band switching, no bln, force closes render the phone useless for half a minute, the list goes on and on. It's cool to hop on ics for a bit, but it's not ready to be my daily
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I never had any of those issues. Battery is actually better for me with ICS.

musa13 said:
I never had any of those issues. Battery is actually better for me with ICS.
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It seems to all come down to how good of a connection area you are in. It seems that people in low or bad connection areas experience way faster battery drain on ICS, but if you are in a strong signal strength area the battery actually seems better. Of course, this is just what I have noticed because I work in a low signal strength area (way faster battery drain), but I live in a good signal strength area (extremely good battery life). I've tried several different modems and although the rait of drain varies, it still holds true. Everbody's results may vary. I am hoping when "network switching" is introduced to ICS that it will help solve the problem.

scott14719 said:
It seems to all come down to how good of a connection area you are in. It seems that people in low or bad connection areas experience way faster battery drain on ICS, but if you are in a strong signal strength area the battery actually seems better. Of course, this is just what I have noticed because I work in a low signal strength area (way faster battery drain), but I live in a good signal strength area (extremely good battery life). I've tried several different modems and although the rait of drain varies, it still holds true. Everbody's results may vary. I am hoping when "network switching" is introduced to ICS that it will help solve the problem.
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Lower the signal more power is needed by modem to hold connection; this is how all modes work. But I do work in the area with very week LTE or even week 4G and I still get better battery life then with GB. It took few days to get batter battery life.

musa13 said:
I never had any of those issues. Battery is actually better for me with ICS.
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Good for you, glad it's working well for you.

I went back to GB earlier due to my dialer being extremely laggy, but the market place wouldn't allow me to download from the marketplace. It would go through the motions like it was going to download but then it would do nothing . Suggestions on let this?
I went back to the ICS leak and then installed the Super lite version and my phone is running amazing, but would like to know any suggestions as I may still go back to gb.
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[Q] Burning hot GS3 and indoor reception issue...

Alright, so I have my SCH-I535 rocking ParanoidKangDroid 2.2.1, although this isn't exactly the primary contributer to this problem as its happend across all roms. If I use 3g for any extended (see 10 minutes) amount of time, the thing goes up to about 38 degrees C, which is enough to be noticeable and slightly uncomfortable. It also drains battery like a mother on 3g. This is ONLY on 3g though. On 4g and wifi I get great battery life and it stays at a normal temperature. it is only on 3g that I see this unusually high drain. I am running paranoidkangdroid 2.2.1 with the CPU at ~1100 max and 96 min running the smartassv2 governor if that's any help. Also, for some reason after a full shutdown and turn on it started to get incredibly hot. it went from 30 C to 50 C in 5 minutes then shutdown. I have since turned it back on and now see that this ordeal drained the battery by half. It has not however become hot again. Is this a ROM issue? Is there anything I can do to fix it without switching roms? Also, does anyone get terrible reception indoors? I get 4g everywhere where I live, unless I happen to be indoors. At which point it becomes rather selective and spotty.

nrock2256 said:
Alright, so I have my SCH-I535 rocking ParanoidKangDroid 2.2.1, although this isn't exactly the primary contributer to this problem as its happend across all roms. If I use 3g for any extended (see 10 minutes) amount of time, the thing goes up to about 38 degrees C, which is enough to be noticeable and slightly uncomfortable. It also drains battery like a mother on 3g. This is ONLY on 3g though. On 4g and wifi I get great battery life and it stays at a normal temperature. it is only on 3g that I see this unusually high drain. I am running paranoidkangdroid 2.2.1 with the CPU at ~1100 max and 96 min running the smartassv2 governor if that's any help. Also, for some reason after a full shutdown and turn on it started to get incredibly hot. it went from 30 C to 50 C in 5 minutes then shutdown. I have since turned it back on and now see that this ordeal drained the battery by half. It has not however become hot again. Is this a ROM issue? Is there anything I can do to fix it without switching roms? Also, does anyone get terrible reception indoors? I get 4g everywhere where I live, unless I happen to be indoors. At which point it becomes rather selective and spotty.
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Happens to me sometimes too. I hadn't necessary attributed it to 3G, but it would make sense because it only happens at work where there's spotty 4G coverage. I thought it was just a rogue background process
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Could be the modem you're using. What version are you on now? I've heard the latest one does better with switching to 3g. See here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-modems-vrbmb1-verizon-sgs3-sch-i535-recovery-flashable/
Also, AOSP is just not as good with the 3g switching as stock. It's always been that way.

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Could be the modem you're using. What version are you on now? I've heard the latest one does better with switching to 3g. See here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-modems-vrbmb1-verizon-sgs3-sch-i535-recovery-flashable/
Also, AOSP is just not as good with the 3g switching as stock. It's always been that way.
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I had my issues before switching to aosp, so maybe mine was a different issue
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If you don't get good reception indoors change modem and rpm, each phone is different so no one is the best. Depending on what rom you are on some seem to be better than others. Look at the Radio thread and it will link you to the full thread on another forum. second when it gets hot turn on airplane mode and see if it cools if so that most likely shows its the radio connecting and disconnecting constantly to be the problem. If so changing modem is the best bet. Also on Verizon I found better signal on SynergyRom r373 and new r4?? with the latest radios (modem and rpm).
Good Luck
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[Q] All the sudden can't get past 1 hour screen on time?

Hey guys, for whatever reason I cannot get past an hour to an hour and a half screen on time per charge. I used to be able to consistently get 3 but for whatever reason that no longer seems to be the case. I use CM 10.1, usually the official but sometimes mastamoon's build. Intially I thought my battery went bad but even after replacing it with a new one I've seen no real difference. I actually replaced the phone once as well but still to no avail. Any ideas?

What's eating most of your battery? Do you have Better Battery Stats it has more specific info on wakelocks.
If you have no significant wakelocks first thing I would try is a different ROM/kernel combo. TouchWiz roms generally get better battery life than AOSP.

BattsNotIncld said:
What's eating most of your battery? Do you have Better Battery Stats it has more specific info on wakelocks.
If you have no significant wakelocks first thing I would try is a different ROM/kernel combo. TouchWiz roms generally get better battery life than AOSP.
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Yeah, but it seems like people usually end up getting better battery life on AOSP ROMs than I am. I haven't checked this iteration of CM but usually it's screen on time eating most of it and wake-locks doesn't seem to be an issue. It just drains super fast, especially with even 5 minute phone calls. I'm in the middle of Cleveland so signal shouldn't be an issue. Although it is usually yellow on the graph.

I would definitely install BetterBatteryStats and see what that shows you. I only run AOSP roms and while battery life isn't great its nowhere near that bad.

I'm having the same issue. No big wake locks, my phone just dies really fast. Running latest AOKP nightly with latest KT747 kernel
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So here are some pictures from my dreadful battery life. More to come. Anyone see anything? I'm not sure what deleted wake locks is.

Slacker101 said:
So here are some pictures from my dreadful battery life. More to come. Anyone see anything? I'm not sure what deleted wake locks is.
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So those were yesterday, here is today. Noticeably less talk time but I hit that magic 1hr screen on time.

The only thing I can get from that is your poor signal, it's simply destroying your battery. I don't see anything else that could be the problem besides a bad battery.
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The only thing I can get from that is your poor signal, it's simply destroying your battery. I don't see anything else that could be the problem besides a bad battery.
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****ed up thing is I live in Cleveland and work down town yet sometimes this phone refuses to get signal. It's really frustrating that it's also killing my battery.
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Slacker101 said:
****ed up thing is I live in Cleveland and work down town yet sometimes this phone refuses to get signal. It's really frustrating that it's also killing my battery.
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I also think it's mostly due to signal loss. You have an 8 hour no data connection. That entire time your phone is looking for a signal and killing your battery. I highly recommend trying to use a touchwiz rom, doesn't really matter which one. I used to use cm10 but it would drop my signal constantly. From my experience, touchwiz roms are much more stable when it comes to holding a phone signal.
There are some amazing devs who've made some cool aosp features and customizations built into touchwiz roms. Some highly customizable roms are goodness and hyperdrive. In my opinion, pair one of those with nova launcher and you'd get a very aosp like experience with the stability of touchwiz.
I also recently flashed the mb1 firmware, that's giving me slight increases in signal strength. Might just be a placebo affect, but I think it helps.
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You might have to try a touchwiz Rom. My battery is at 77% after extensive use for an hour and 40 minutes.

jmxc23 said:
You might have to try a touchwiz Rom. My battery is at 77% after extensive use for an hour and 40 minutes.
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I am having a similar issue with stock, verizon OS. There was a system update just a couple days ago through verizon, and I installed it, ever since then it's been horrible. My battery usage blames it on "Media Server" though. Not really sure if it's related, but wanted to let you know in case it might help someone trouble shoot. Also, I noticed that since the update, my 4G icon in the top is on at the same time as my Wifi icon, which previously was just one or the other depending on if I was connected to Wifi or not.

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I am having a similar issue it with stock, verizon OS. There was a system update just a couple days ago through verizon, and I installed it, ever since then it's been horrible. My battery usage blames it on "Media Server" though. Not really sure if it's related, but wanted to let you know in case it might help someone trouble shoot. Also, I noticed that since the update, my 4G icon in the top is on at the same time as my Wifi icon, which previously was just one or the other depending on if I was connected to Wifi or not.
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Just disable the caller id app and the 4G icon won't show up. Also I don't think you get my post as I said extensive meaning watching movies and playing games with out any screen off time all in an hour and 40 minutes the person who started this thread is on an AOSP ROM and is getting the same. The main difference is I still had 2/3 of battery life left while his battery is dying or dead. Right now I have been on this phone for 3 hours and have about 60% of battery life left. I don't have a media server problem and on a custom touchwiz ROM with a custom kernel.

Usually the ROM is not a factor, its one of two things 99% of the time,.
1. a rogue app, that won't stop looking for location or data or is just hung
2. Poor or lost signal and the phone keeps boosting power to stay attached or search for signal;

Slacker101 said:
So those were yesterday, here is today. Noticeably less talk time but I hit that magic 1hr screen on time.
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Edit: As many have pointed out by now,
It appears that you are not getting the best cell signal on your phone. From personal experience, I can tell you that bad reception takes a huge toll on battery life.
You could try switching modems/roms to see if that will solve your problem. In my experience, I have gotten better signal using a TouchWiz ROM. However, I do miss the lag-freeness of CM