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[Q] Do i really need a data plan

Hey guys I just wanted to ask one question before I actually buy the desire hd. When i got my Tilt 2 one year ago, I told them I didnt want a data plan and they told me it was ok because i have been a customer for 5 years. So question is are they going to force me to get a data plan when i get the desire hd. thanks in advance.

you cannot get it without the data plan, this is ATT's policy now. that said, android OS works much differently, and not having a data plan would probably not work simply because of the way android OS works. you can try it though, curious to hear results...

from what i was told in the past, if you get a cool rep at the store, which i have come across in my area.
You can get them to cancel the data plan after the first month.

epicKA8 said:
from what i was told in the past, if you get a cool rep at the store, which i have come across in my area.
You can get them to cancel the data plan after the first month.
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This is NOT the case anymore. If you get a smartphone on AT&T, you are required to get a dataplan. End Of Story.
If you don't want a data plan, the question you should ask yourself is (unless you have WiFi to connect to all the time) do you really need a smartphone?

epicKA8 said:
from what i was told in the past, if you get a cool rep at the store, which i have come across in my area.
You can get them to cancel the data plan after the first month.
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Once that person makes their first phone call with their phone, the network registers their IMEI and puts them on the correct data plan.
Nice try though.

The ATT policy aside, because android uses data for so much, I doubt you could even set up the phone unless near WiFi. When out and about away from WiFi, so many parts of the OS reach out for data that it would be very different than what one might realize. It's not like the old windows mobile days where data can just be shut off. But this is why I'm curious to see the results though.

I called att support and they can block data on your line so you never get any data ever, you could turn off data plan that way

Hypnopottamus said:
This is NOT the case anymore. If you get a smartphone on AT&T, you are required to get a dataplan. End Of Story.
If you don't want a data plan, the question you should ask yourself is (unless you have WiFi to connect to all the time) do you really need a smartphone?
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really? i was told this when i got my phone from my guy who works at the store. you sign up, the must, but after teh first month they can remove it.
Sportsguy15 said:
Once that person makes their first phone call with their phone, the network registers their IMEI and puts them on the correct data plan.
Nice try though.
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only if you don't unlock it

epicKA8 said:
really? i was told this when i got my phone from my guy who works at the store. you sign up, the must, but after teh first month they can remove it.
only if you don't unlock it
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If you unlock it, what trick is there to fake the imei? I haven't heard of any yet on android and I looked thru the source code and all to try compiling a kernel to do so. Curious what method you know of!

2 things, you can't drop a data plan as far as i know with at&t, they are changing stuff every week right now however trying to get some sort of edge it seems.
I turned on an old tilt this past week for my kid and they no longer require a data plan it seems on older PDA's. It was a ridiculous rule. So i have data blocked on it and he uses the wifi. Finally one tiny issue solved.
More good news.. (remember you get a different answer with every rep)
I was able to turn on the 2gig plan for 25 instead of the normal $30 its been.
And i was told i can turn on a 4 gig plan now for 40 with 250mb roll overs @ 15$ per.
This is news to me ive only seen the 200mb and the 2 gb plan up till now. Tmobi is like 5 gb a month (unlimited) so its nice to see this (since i swear the 4g is eating up data on me)

I've heard from my aunt, who "worked" for att, that if you were grandfathered in, since the old days where you didn't need a Data plan for a Smartphone, you can still get one without a plan. (I remember my first WM Smartphone was bought this way)
You just have to be sure to specify this point, that you are Grandfathered in.
Since she knows this, Her Son, bought a BlackBerry for his daughter, and insisted on no Data plan, the Rep. allowed it because he was Grandfathered in.
I intend to Buy an Inspire, later this week, using my Mom's upgrade; she actually uses a Blackberry, without a Data Plan too! ;D
It should work the same, my dad says we should be Great-Grandfathered in, cause we were there when it was still Cingular and the First $10.00 Unlimited Data Plans came out.

As far as I know it doesn't work that way. You are already grandfathered in because they are allowing you to use a smart phone without data. But as soon as you get a new phone you will automatically be forced to upgrade to a data plan. My wife tried the same thing, she had a blackberry with no data but when she got a new phone they automatically gave her a data plan.
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freekquency said:
2 things, you can't drop a data plan as far as i know with at&t, they are changing stuff every week right now however trying to get some sort of edge it seems.
I turned on an old tilt this past week for my kid and they no longer require a data plan it seems on older PDA's. It was a ridiculous rule. So i have data blocked on it and he uses the wifi. Finally one tiny issue solved.
More good news.. (remember you get a different answer with every rep)
I was able to turn on the 2gig plan for 25 instead of the normal $30 its been.
And i was told i can turn on a 4 gig plan now for 40 with 250mb roll overs @ 15$ per.
This is news to me ive only seen the 200mb and the 2 gb plan up till now. Tmobi is like 5 gb a month (unlimited) so its nice to see this (since i swear the 4g is eating up data on me)
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where were you able to do this?

aeneas3 said:
where were you able to do this?
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The 2GB data plan has always been $25. The unlimited data plan is $30.

$15 unlimited data????

Has anyone else seen this or have any idea about it? I'm going to call them but jw if anyone has gotten this sorta thingy.
Thanks!
ps i'll post updates after i talk to tehm

Hmm. Never seen it before. Keep us posted.
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I have seen the $10 unlimited EDGE data plan in the email I got from AT&T after upgrading my phone.

I'm pretty sure it's for non smartphones.
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hiltun said:
I have seen the $10 unlimited EDGE data plan in the email I got from AT&T after upgrading my phone.
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Wha? What's this.

I've seen the $15 for 200mb data plan.. I use average of 3gb a month so that's a no go for me..
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The $15/month unlimited data feature is supposed to only be for QMP's (Quick Messaging Phones), since it's basically just a MediaNet perk.
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You can try enabling the $15/mo plan by doing the following:
Find yourself a really old phone that has medianet capabilities. Put your sim card in it and wait a couple hours for ATT's network to recognize the IMEI. Go online and manage your account's features and change your data plan to $15/mo unlimited MediaNet plan. Take SIM card out, put in android phone and celebrate. I've done this trick before on other phones a while back and I'm not sure if ATT has fixed this bug or not but it always worked without a hitch and they never caught it.

akira02rex said:
You can try enabling the $15/mo plan by doing the following:
Find yourself a really old phone that has medianet capabilities. Put your sim card in it and wait a couple hours for ATT's network to recognize the IMEI. Go online and manage your account's features and change your data plan to $15/mo unlimited MediaNet plan. Take SIM card out, put in android phone and celebrate. I've done this trick before on other phones a while back and I'm not sure if ATT has fixed this bug or not but it always worked without a hitch and they never caught it.
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Sounds good
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magnumforce2006 said:
Wha? What's this.
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Here is a quote from the email:
Get connected to the Mobile Web with unlimited access to search, email, apps, games, music and more. Data Unlimited plans start at $15 per month
Pay just $10 per month per line for unlimited data access to the Mobile Web when combined with a Family Messaging Unlimited plan.
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Yes I have. It works with the non smartphones this is what I used to have. But my similar Sid not work in this phone wig it..I've tried
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rtbluver said:
Yes I have. It works with the non smartphones this is what I used to have. But my similar Sid not work in this phone wig it..I've tried
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Huh?

akira02rex said:
You can try enabling the $15/mo plan by doing the following:
Find yourself a really old phone that has medianet capabilities. Put your sim card in it and wait a couple hours for ATT's network to recognize the IMEI. Go online and manage your account's features and change your data plan to $15/mo unlimited MediaNet plan. Take SIM card out, put in android phone and celebrate. I've done this trick before on other phones a while back and I'm not sure if ATT has fixed this bug or not but it always worked without a hitch and they never caught it.
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same for me im runing 15$ data plan from way back when...upgrade to LG VU with 15$ unlimitedd data bcuz its a (multimedia pnone and not a smart phone) then in high baught a blackberry off of friend data worked, found an iphone 3gs 16 in venice tried to return to owner but it was locked, jailbroke it had it for a year, i had to change the APN with unlockit.co.nz. now i upgraded to Inspire with my sisters contract told them to switch numbers so i kept my old sim, still 15$ unlimited data but i had to search and manually change the APN on the inspire to get 3g to work. If anyone has that problem and needs help ill be glad to help you out

ive gotten the $15 unlimited data too, havent been caught yet

akira02rex said:
Huh?
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I had the 15 unlimited data on my non smartphone. Then I got this phone and the sim did not work in it. So I got a 4g sim. But I forgot that you could if you changed the APN.
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I had the $10 unlimited data plan with my fuse and tilt2 up until I upgraded to this phone last month. I'm confused as to why the letter says Congrats on your new inspire and offers me a dumb phone data plan and I'm secretly hoping it might be a loyalty or secret data plan haha. I still haven't called them yet but I will definitely update you guys once I do.
And you don't even have to wait a few hours to do the sim trick. Last time I did it, I just popped it in my old phone and called them and gave them the imei for that phone. Worked like a charm for 2 years until I had to upgrade and change my data plan to get this phone (which ultimately I got for free lol).
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C'mon nhshah7, you had all dang day and you still haven't called about this? Where's the update?

kimtyson said:
C'mon nhshah7, you had all dang day and you still haven't called about this? Where's the update?
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hahahah i'm sorry i'll do it first thing in the morning tomorrow, it's been a busy day. Tomorrow morning, I promise!

I have had this since 1997. The down side is that I had to do it with a WinMo phone for too long.
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The long awaited update...but it won't satisfy.
So I called ATT a little while back (ironically I had an issue where I couldn't dial numbers for half an hour, even after pulling the sim, so I couldn't even dial ATT's number!). After I got that sorted out, I asked about the letter. I mentioned that it specifically says my name and phone (Inspire 4g) on it so it was directly mentioning my phone and not sent for another line in my family...all of us have smartphones anyways. she put me on hold for some time and came back and basically reviewed all the data plans with me (something i was already aware of......) and said they don't offer that plan. After a little more of bugging her that it was sent to ME with MY PHONE and said $15 unlimited data, she said that I can fax in a copy of it to customer service and that they would research it and get back to me within 3-7 business days.
Basically it's getting sent to someone else to review and research. I'llkeep you guys posted and see if i can wiggle my way into a custom data plan

[Q] AT&T 2g Data-cap work-around? ? ?

Is there ANY way around the 2g data-cap?
i cant afford to upgrade at all, and would really love to use my phone at the end of the month...
i hit my limit about 4 days ago and have till the 28th when my plan rolls over.. this is freaking driving me nuts having to wait to be home or somewhere with WiFi to use my interent or check my various news sources...
I use my wifi when i can, but i stream pandora at work, and it chews up data pretty fiercely! Also get on YouTube alot and run the radar on AccuWeather...
When im at home or any friends' houses, i use wifi... but its not available in the warehouse i work at.
Im curious if there is a way i can use more data, or regain my UNLIMITED data i had with my milestone, but not pay for an upgrade. I can blow through 2g like a fat kid at a buffet. I averaged 5-6g per month with my 'stone.
There has to be a way around this... someone help me.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698

Wait for Onavo
If you can't follow the method outlined above then you may want to wait for Onavo to release their Android client.
Visit the Onavo website for more details--it's on their blog. It should be here by the end of the month.

I got my unlimited data like that. It works.

Yup..I have several friends across the forums that have done it. I can't seem to find an iphone 2g anywhere tho lol.
going to send my sim off to a dude next week so he can do it for me.
untill then I just pay for what I use. pretty sure I just hit another gb today..yay..$10 more

I have 2 iPhones for rent.
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With ATT changing their plans around, does it still work? The data plans even changed as of yesterday.
(I got in on the $10 for 1000 msg right before it changed.)

So, I want to do this, but I have a question.
If I do it, and I get unlimited data, do I lose my Unlimited texts with unlimited mobile to mobile? Because if I do, I won't do it since that's how we save money on our phone bill by having "umlimited" minutes thanks to that plan.
I ask this because the Unlimited Data plan apparently adds the unlimited texting plan, removing the one I have right now, if I do it.

fml... seems like i cant do it, cause I'm not the master account holder on my family plan. I know if it gets changed or altered without her say-so, she would bust my balls.
FAWK!
...guess ill keep looking.

apallohadas said:
With ATT changing their plans around, does it still work? The data plans even changed as of yesterday.
(I got in on the $10 for 1000 msg right before it changed.)
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I believe the "unlimited loophole" was closed a number of months ago. At least according to MacRumors.Com forums. I did it back in January (didn't even need an original iPhone just a dumbphone) with my iPhone 4 and an old Moto Krazr but it seems it no longer works.

MisterEdF said:
I believe the "unlimited loophole" was closed a number of months ago. At least according to MacRumors.Com forums. I did it back in January (didn't even need an original iPhone just a dumbphone) with my iPhone 4 and an old Moto Krazr but it seems it no longer works.
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I just used a iphone 2g and switched 2 lines over and they showed on the account as iphone unlimitted within minutes of registering. Getting the rest of the story done is yet to come

MisterEdF said:
I believe the "unlimited loophole" was closed a number of months ago. At least according to MacRumors.Com forums. I did it back in January (didn't even need an original iPhone just a dumbphone) with my iPhone 4 and an old Moto Krazr but it seems it no longer works.
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had a friend do it just last week to both his phones
so how much does an iphone 2g rent for these days lol

You work so what's another 10 bucks a month for an extra gb?

Longcat14 said:
So, I want to do this, but I have a question.
If I do it, and I get unlimited data, do I lose my Unlimited texts with unlimited mobile to mobile? Because if I do, I won't do it since that's how we save money on our phone bill by having "umlimited" minutes thanks to that plan.
I ask this because the Unlimited Data plan apparently adds the unlimited texting plan, removing the one I have right now, if I do it.
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no you dont all it changes is your data plan. PLEASE SEARCH

What if I have a dumb phone? Can I just take that in?

Nope, it has to be a smartphone unlimited data. The plan for the 2G iPhone was unlimited data with a bundled text, hence the $20 plan that everyone talks about. The AT&T billing system is set up to allow the unlimited smartphone data plans to transfer between phones, so this iPhone gateway allied you to get any of the smartphone plans. Then once you have it, your grandfathered in.
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I had an unlimited $10 a month plan from my dumb phone days. I was using it on my captivate for over a year until I updated to the Infuse due to the captivate dying. They got rid of my $10 unlimited and placed me on the $25 a month 2 GB plan :-\. I was just wondering if there is anyway anyone has switched back.

Eddie Bombay said:
You work so what's another 10 bucks a month for an extra gb?
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like i stated, i cant afford the extra 10 bucks... works are getting cut left and right at work, so i have to pinch my dollars where i can.
so if i do this, is there any way it can eff up the phone or sim?

Ph0z3 said:
fml... seems like i cant do it, cause I'm not the master account holder on my family plan. I know if it gets changed or altered without her say-so, she would bust my balls.
FAWK!
...guess ill keep looking.
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Lol my dad is I changed it like a boss
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I bought an iPhone 2G on ebay but it was missing parts and had to return it.
Still looking on eBay.
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AT&T Contract vs. Data Plan vs. Android.

At the moment I'm using a HTC Tilt 2 WM 6.5 without a data plan due to the fact I'm Grandfathered in via the pre data forcing by AT&T. Since I have never purchased a cell phone from AT&T my contract has never been renewed. Hence I can switch from one smartphone to another with no activation of a data plan.
My question:
I plan to get, and root, a used HTC Inspire. I have heard all Android phones must have a data plan or they physically will not work. Is this true? Or is this coming from individuals that have not been Grandfathered in and just do not know better?

i was in the same boat as you months ago when the inspire came out. I have an unlimited data/txt/MMS plan which cost me $29.99 a month. I have not renewed a contract in about 5 years. My unlimited data plan is grandfathered in. I can use as much data as i want and dont have to worry about overages.
Yes, ATT will detect that you are using the new phone. They will also tell you that you HAVE to upgrade your data plan. You dont. They will also tell you that they will automatically update your data plan when they detect you are using the '4g' phone. That is wont, its actually illegal.
I have had the inspires since the day it came out and i still pay $90 a month for 900 min of talk time and unlimited text/data/mms.
I did the math the last time they tried to make me upgrade my plan to the $35/month "4G" data plan. Over two years of paying more for less (data), i would save money by buying the phone for the list price and not upgrading my plan. They i would have to buy a plan for text and mms messages.
So i would suggest you buy the phone outright for whatever it costs now.
I go so far as to not even give them my phone number and tell them the phone is a gift for a friend. When they give me a problem about that, and say the MUST have a phone number, i give them the phone number of one my friends that has an iphone, or use my work number, since the are both ATT phone numbers.
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note though, if you do not have a data plan, you may want to make sure the data radio is turned off and simply use the wi-fi on the phone to access the internet. Android is always running stuff in the background that uses your data plan.
I turn mine off so that i dont get emails when i am out and about at night or asleep.
never had an issue except with the sales people and the store that 'know it all' because they are paid to get you to upgrade to the latest plan. they tell you that you MUST upgrade just so they can get their commission or meet some quota i guess. call their bluff. its worked for me ever since i went to the original tilt a few years back.

Your android phone will work without a data plan. However ATT will detect it and can hook you up to a data plan and charge you without asking you. There is nothing illegal about that. ATT has every right to do that. It is their policy.
But ATT is not the evil cellphone provider that everyone thinks they are. Most likely what I said above will happen. But since you are in a grandfathered plan and have been a valued ATT customer I would talk to an ATT representative. Most likely they will just put a block on your data and you will be able to continue on as you have in the past. That is as long as you buy the phone outright.

Agoattamer may be right about automatically signing your up for a data plan. I am lucky because I signed up for the unlimited plan years ago, so technically, i do have a data plan.
I do know for a fact that they have told me they will automatically change my plan to one of their newer plans because now i have a smarter phone. I pretty much got in an argument about it with the sales rep on why i should 'upgrade' my plan when it is already unlimited. His only answer was, as Agoattamer stated, it's ATT policy for the newer, smarter phones.
They have not 'automatically upgraded my plan' though, but have told me they will each time i go in there. The first time was when i bought the tilt 1, and then i had to get a international roaming plan for a vacation, and they looked at my account and said the same thing. Has not happened yet, and it has been a few years.
i am sure that if i were to consume 10 gigs of data in one month though, i would probably get automatically upgraded, so thats why i fly under the radar and mostly use wi-fi. Only use my cell data radio on the road or when i NEED it outside of wi-fi coverage. To this date, i still have not consumed more than a 1 gig in a month on my cell data radio.

What ngravatt says here is true. They may get you and they may not get you. There are many that get by under the radar and then I have heard of many that get caught the first day. It is a coin tossup. But as ngravatt also said which I said above: Talk to them and they will work it out with you usually. But since you have no data plan your phone will begin using data shortly after you turn it on. And I think that will be a major red flag to ATT. So either they will catch you and add you to a plan or you will get charged for the data you use which can be quite expensive.

ngravatt said:
Yes, ATT will detect that you are using the new phone. They will also tell you that you HAVE to upgrade your data plan. You dont. They will also tell you that they will automatically update your data plan when they detect you are using the '4g' phone. That is wont, its actually illegal.
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well...they can, but they ahve to send you a notice saying they're changing your contract terms, but they give you an option to back out of your contract if you disagree with the new terms.
You should be able to buy it outright or upgrade, and turn off your data plan. You could just use the sim card swap technique to put it in another phone and say you lost the other one (after a month) and that you want them to turn off ALL data. This way you can upgrade and get the cheapest price on the phone (?free) AND only pay a month of data. ATT *does* let people with smartphones disable data and they don't force you onto a data plan. I have friends that do this with iphones and other smartphones. This might be your cheapest option.
off topic here, i was on a tilt2 up until the beg of march when my screen refused to turn on, and since it was 6 months after my warranty expired (90 day refurb warranty), i had to upgrade. mannn, wish i could've held out until att lte phones came out...

If you buy at upgrade pricing you have to re-sign your service agreement. That is when they hit you with the data plan change. If you purchase your phone outright then you will not sign a new service agreement. If you get a text saying that you need a new data plan call 611. Tell them that you have unlimited data and you are receiving text messages. They will update the data plan you are on to the new grandfathered data plan and you are all set. At least in my experience that was what happened to me. Text messages stopped and I am on the corrected unlimited data plan. And I pull about 5-6 gigs a month so yes it is unlimited, and no I do not tether.

Sorry just re read a little more. They will require a data plan for you and they will not grandfather you since there is nothing to grandfather. I would buy outright online from a private party and pop your SIM in.

i have been using smart phones for a while since the windows mobile times, and have upgraded since sometimes buying the phone on ebay or sometimes renewing my contract
i put a data block on my phone and just use wifi
the other people on my plan have data on there phone

What if you have a desire HD, would they tag you too?
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Yes. They will still notice. Using a desire hd still requires your sim and still uses att network.
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Oh okay, thanks
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How about h2o?
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Gizmoe said:
Yes. They will still notice. Using a desire hd still requires your sim and still uses att network.
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But how will they know it's a smartphone? My understanding was that if the imei is not in their database, they have no way of determining what device you actually have.
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biglittlegato said:
But how will they know it's a smartphone? My understanding was that if the imei is not in their database, they have no way of determining what device you actually have.
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This is true from what I hear. You can buy a Telus DHD (uses the same frequencies as AT&T) and add an unlimited non-smart phone data plan for like $10/month. Your Telus DHD will get 3G/4G just like an Inspire, but won't be flagged as a "smart" device by AT&T. This could all change at any time though if AT&T gets wise to you.

Gene Poole said:
This is true from what I hear. You can buy a Telus DHD (uses the same frequencies as AT&T) and add an unlimited non-smart phone data plan for like $10/month. Your Telus DHD will get 3G/4G just like an Inspire, but won't be flagged as a "smart" device by AT&T. This could all change at any time though if AT&T gets wise to you.
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I assume they would notice that you are using a device that does not match your imei number and they would require you to activate it. It might not take them too long to notice but who knows. Things do slip through the cracks.
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biglittlegato said:
But how will they know it's a smartphone? My understanding was that if the imei is not in their database, they have no way of determining what device you actually have.
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Carriers have been working with the OEMs to fix this. They are at the point where they may not be able to determine what device it is but can tell what type of device. Its not that hard to look at the data usage and other things and determine what type of device is being used.

Check my sig and you will see I am using a Telus DHD. Before that I used a T-mobile Samsung Vibrant and before that I used a Telstra HTC HD2. All three phones worked on ATT for 3G. None of the 3 showed up on the ATT web site. It still shows to this day, my samsung impression. I am using the non smartphone $10/month unlimited data plan. It has worked for 2 years but I do not abuse it. It may change in the near future, who knows.

Gizmoe said:
I assume they would notice that you are using a device that does not match your imei number and they would require you to activate it. It might not take them too long to notice but who knows. Things do slip through the cracks.
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Did this for three years no issues. Didn't manage to upgrade to my Inspire with the same data plan though :-(
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Gizmoe said:
I assume they would notice that you are using a device that does not match your imei number and they would require you to activate it. It might not take them too long to notice but who knows. Things do slip through the cracks.
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That's the thing with GSM phones. They only care about the SIM for activation. The IMEI is secondary and only used (by AT&T anyway) to identify the type of phone. If it's not in their database, they have no way of knowing what kind of phone it is.

[Q] AT& T require 4G data plan!

Hi Forum,
My wife bought a Iphone 4 last year with a 200MG/ month data plan. She gave her Iphone to her nephew. She told AT&T that her Iphone was broken. She has been using my old Samsung Vibrant with no issue from AT&T, for several months now. I got her a used Infuse yesterday and was using data. AT&T sniffed it and sent a text message.
( Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4G data connection today.)
Do any one know what AT&T will do if she continue to use the Infuse?
Thank you in advance for your opinions, and knowledge!

They are going to add the data plan to your account. You have a choice currentley between 200mb/$15 @ overage rate of 200mb/$15, or 2gb/$25 @ overage rate 1gb/$10. if you dont call and choose a plan they will stick you with the 2gb/$25 rate.

Thanks!
So the options are pay more for data or back to the Vibrant! Do you think calling them and explain the situation would change anything?

Romeo20 said:
So the options are pay more for data or back to the Vibrant! Do you think calling them and explain the situation would change anything?
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Call them until you get a rep that does what you want. That usually does it, haha. I'm sure this situation could be no exception.
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You can try calling and yelling all you want, theres always that small chance you may get sombody to bend a rule for you. However it is at&t's policy that with all smartphones you are required to have a data plan, so understand you are on the losing side of the battle and can only HOPE sombody bends the rule for you to allow you to continue with no data plan.

She has data plan, 200 mg/ per month for $15. AT&T want her to have 4G data plan.

Romeo20 said:
She has data plan, 200 mg/ per month for $15. AT&T want her to have 4G data plan.
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well than your just on the wrong 200mb/$15 plan, pricing is same for 3g/4g devcies the feature code is just different. call and get it fixed so they dont change you to the $25 plan or somthing stupid

Thank you all!
I resolve the issue with AT&T. After over 30 minutes on the phone, AT&T rep said that I need to provide the SIM and IME number of the Infuse. The data plan is still the same which is 200 Mg/ month for $15. As first, AT&T tried to hook a new 2G data plan. I did not complaint or yell; in fact, I was very polite. I stated that the Vibrant was not getting Voice mail notification, and that my wife hardly use the 200 MG that she has per month. Anyhow, a bit of patience and gratitude seem to do it, this time!

Tomdg07 said:
You can try calling and yelling all you want, theres always that small chance you may get sombody to bend a rule for you. However it is at&t's policy that with all smartphones you are required to have a data plan, so understand you are on the losing side of the battle and can only HOPE sombody bends the rule for you to allow you to continue with no data plan.
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Back when I got my HTC Tilt I had a very annoying situation with them. At the time of contract signing I was told I had to have a data plan. 3 months later on a night I was not even around my phone I had a $200 data charge for megabytes upon megabytes of transfer charges. Complained to high heaven, and had ALL data service cut to my line.
Fast forward to this past Sept, got online to upgrade our two phones. Well it seems I got lucky and got an Infuse WITHOUT any data plan. Kind of annoying I have someone trying to text my photos...wink wink, that I can not receive. However our other phone AT&T was kind enough to automatically add the data plan (most expensive one of course) without indicating this. Only when we got the October bill that I saw this. *** I just hate these mobile carriers with a passion. Been years of bend over and take it up the arse with this fools. Actually had AT&T try to change terms AFTER a contract was signed.
Honestly folks, with these phones how having Google Voice, we have actually talked about saying FU to ALL carriers and just using the internet. Yeah, so I cant call when I am driving...dont want to talk then anyways. Just anything I could do to give these **** the finger.

i wouldn't imagine they can do anything if you didnt buy the phone on contract. but if you are on an iphone unlimited plan they might try like hell to get you off of it.

ssa2204 said:
Actually had AT&T try to change terms AFTER a contract was signed.
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Are you referring to the terms and cinditions YOU signed, which actually state subject to change at any time without giving notice?
I also want to remind you, you can also leave att at any time
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If you buy your smartphone outright, paid full price, they can not make you buy a data plan.
But, you then "can not" use your phone to access the internet or e-mail unless on WiFi. Or they can/will force a data plan on you.
Texting and MMS are part of the Phone plan not data.

Truckerglenn said:
If you buy your smartphone outright, paid full price, they can not make you buy a data plan.
But, you then "can not" use your phone to access the internet or e-mail unless on WiFi. Or they can/will force a data plan on you.
Texting and MMS are part of the Phone plan not data.
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unless you have smartphone exclusion, get a dumb phone, put the infuse on that sim card and turn off data.

If u are in contract with att and you buy a phone out of contract u are still required to have a data plan as long as its on an active acct.
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FIX !!!
1. Get a.dummy phone put sim card in it and have att put your number on that phone
2. Have them remove data on that phone
3. Hang up with att
4. turn OFF DATA on the infuse(long press power button and turn mobile data off)
also delete att APN
5 enjoy your phone with out att adding data plan on your phone and still use wifi
Ive been using this method for years. Cheers

Justinfedor said:
If u are in contract with att and you buy a phone out of contract u are still required to have a data plan as long as its on an active acct.
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not if you have smart phone exclusion. my brother uses my old captivate without mms or data on att. only if you lose smart phone exclusion do they force it on you, so if you have a number that never had a data plan you are good, if you had a data plan and got rid of it and bought another phone you need to change phone numbers and sign a new contract to get smartphone exclusion. also how many people are using iphone unlimited plans and arent forced to upgrade to a 4g plan? only people who are suspected of tethering are forced to change.

Dani897 said:
not if you have smart phone exclusion. my brother uses my old captivate without mms or data on att. only if you lose smart phone exclusion do they force it on you, so if you have a number that never had a data plan you are good, if you had a data plan and got rid of it and bought another phone you need to change phone numbers and sign a new contract to get smartphone exclusion. also how many people are using iphone unlimited plans and arent forced to upgrade to a 4g plan? only people who are suspected of tethering are forced to change.
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The smartphone exclusion is being removed if someone has it on the acct and upgrades to a diff phone and data plan. So make sure he doesnt get data added on it
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I tryed to change the 3G to a 4G plan (switch from Captivate to Infuse) online.
This did not work right away and so I started a chat with an ATT representative and it was taken care of in no time!
I am jsut wondering, if ya'll ain't got no datat plan. What do you use your smartphone for?

timf79 said:
I tryed to change the 3G to a 4G plan (switch from Captivate to Infuse) online.
This did not work right away and so I started a chat with an ATT representative and it was taken care of in no time!
I am jsut wondering, if ya'll ain't got no datat plan. What do you use your smartphone for?
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Media player and phone. Before I got my unlimited data plan, I didn't have much of a need for a data plan as I was always on campus using their wifi.

Romeo20 said:
I resolve the issue with AT&T. After over 30 minutes on the phone, AT&T rep said that I need to provide the SIM and IME number of the Infuse. The data plan is still the same which is 200 Mg/ month for $15. As first, AT&T tried to hook a new 2G data plan. I did not complaint or yell; in fact, I was very polite. I stated that the Vibrant was not getting Voice mail notification, and that my wife hardly use the 200 MG that she has per month. Anyhow, a bit of patience and gratitude seem to do it, this time!
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In case anyone comes here with the same question.. I started off with the 2 gig plan a year and a half after they canceled the unlimited plan. Popped my SIM card into the original iPhone set it up in iTunes and 20 minutes later had the unlimited data plan. Popped my SIM card in later that day and get that text every month. Just don't call or mention it. Hint: They don't really care.