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Evo Switch v1.1.1 NovaFreq v1.2.1
(APP NAME CHANGED TO SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE)
This is an Android application developed to change the panel frequency for Novatek Panels for the Sprint HTC EVO 4G, in conjunction with ffolkes' Novatek Kernel and netarchy's Kernel,
and any kernel that has maejrep's T2 Interface built in. Every device is different, and with that, those specified kernel's default settings may or may not be optimized with your device.
With this application, you can change those settings on the fly and find the best setting for your device.
[ Please use this application with extreme caution! I am not responsible for any damage this may cause to your device. ]
Requirements:
-HTC EVO 4G
-Android 2.1 +
-Any custom kernel that is built off of toastcfh's htc source
-Novatek Panel
-Root Access
Uses:
-Use as an fps frequency turbo switch for when you need extra fps.
-Use as a debugging tool to test frequencies.
-Use to keep frequency settings even beyond reboots. (new)
Settings:
-340 [Stock] is how HTC intended the EVO to be. This frequency works out to 61hz, but we are capped at 30hz.
-370 [Kernel Default] sets the panel frequency lower than stock, yet provides most around 55fps.
-250 [Stable High Freq] sets the panel frequency higher than stock, which usually gives around 40fps.
-400 [Stable Low Freq] - V2's setting.
-Favorite Setting - Find the most stable setting, and if it's not one of the listed, then "Set Favorite".
-Sticky Settings - Now you can reboot and not have to re-apply your settings!
Custom Setting:
You can put arbitrary settings here, but be warned this may mess up your screen, but usually you can reboot your phone
to change it back to default. Minimum Recommended: 250 Maximum Recommended: 999.
Please do not go lower then the minimum recommended of 250, nor higher than the maximum recommended 999.
To Do:
-Favorite Setting - So you can save the best setting for your device. 07/04/10 - Done!
Change Log:
-Changed app name from Evo Switch to NovaFreq (Novatek Frequency / Freek)
-Totally redid code, should be more optimized.
-Frequencies stick beyond a reboot
-Changed a few of the defaults
-Changed back sleep time to 500ms so the current displayed setting can update (v1.2.1)
Don't be alarmed if you see NovaFreq running in the background. To be able to sticky settings beyond a reboot, NovaFreq has to be run at boot up.
After that you can kill NovaFreq if you want, android will kill it when needed so don't worry.
Thanks To:
ffolkes, netarchy, maejrep, toastcfh, halfline, Cicitrize, geyes30, kpkimmel, joeykrim, and many others involved in trying to uncap the EVO.
Reserved...
Reserved again.
woah, this is badass. I will check it out soon
works great! Whats the number I set it at to equal the V2 setting of ffolkes kernel? I think its 400, is that correct?
Awesome!! This is the first time I've been able to break 30 fps! (thanks to your app!)
I'm on Froyo and the v4 had never worked, but now v4 + high frequency with your app = 40 fps.
I love you.
this may a silly question... but would this fix camera when i have it disabled as to if i switch it on the camera is now broke? or just the kernel itself breaks the camera??
Great little app, I would recommend users experiment with the values just ever so slightly for optimum performance. Using the default value of 361 netted me about 50-51 fps, whereas using 365 nets me about 54-55. Not a huge bump, but even a little bit is nice
Great application. May I suggest adding maybe a quick cycle to move between frequencies so users can go through a number of settings at once? Kinda like the Scan feature in most radios to pick the best frequencies.
timgt said:
works great! Whats the number I set it at to equal the V2 setting of ffolkes kernel? I think its 400, is that correct?
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Yes, I think V2 was 400.
madunix said:
this may a silly question... but would this fix camera when i have it disabled as to if i switch it on the camera is now broke? or just the kernel itself breaks the camera??
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Every custom kernel does not have a working camera, because we do not have the source code for it. When HTC finally releases the source code, then we will be able to fix the camera.
antiphon said:
Great application. May I suggest adding maybe a quick cycle to move between frequencies so users can go through a number of settings at once? Kinda like the Scan feature in most radios to pick the best frequencies.
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This sounds like something to think about. Only problem is, while scanning, no one will know what the fps is unless they have their favorite fps app running, but then we wouldn't know what the frequency setting is since the fps app is running in focus. Might be a bit difficult to pull off without building an fps test into the app.
Well done!! Thanks
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This sounds like something to think about. Only problem is, while scanning, no one will know what the fps is unless they have their favorite fps app running, but then we wouldn't know what the frequency setting is since the fps app is running in focus. Might be a bit difficult to pull off without building an fps test into the app.
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Yeah I agree it would be difficult to implement without a built in fps counter. I was thinking more along the lines of something that would flag or eliminate the frequencies that are really bad (ie the ones which make your screen go haywire). So maybe the user could, for example, pick frequencies 300-310 and then the app would cycle through them 1 second at a time. From there the user would be able to run FPS2D or whatever to test out those frequencies that didn't make their screen all blotchy.
Anyways, just something to think about. Great work nonetheless!
antiphon said:
Yeah I agree it would be difficult to implement without a built in fps counter. I was thinking more along the lines of something that would flag or eliminate the frequencies that are really bad (ie the ones which make your screen go haywire). So maybe the user could, for example, pick frequencies 300-310 and then the app would cycle through them 1 second at a time. From there the user would be able to run FPS2D or whatever to test out those frequencies that didn't make their screen all blotchy.
Anyways, just something to think about. Great work nonetheless!
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This won't work, because the interface that is used to write these settings to the panel cannot handle both full-speed graphics, and setting panel registers. I tried this when I first created the sysfs attr file, and if fps2d is running, it seems impossible to set or query the current T2 value. the display pretty much has to be idle for this to work.
Using a mutex lock might help, but I didn't look into it any further.
maejrep said:
This won't work, because the interface that is used to write these settings to the panel cannot handle both full-speed graphics, and setting panel registers. I tried this when I first created the sysfs attr file, and if fps2d is running, it seems impossible to set or query the current T2 value. the display pretty much has to be idle for this to work.
Using a mutex lock might help, but I didn't look into it any further.
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Yep, that's why I had to put in a "sleep" command in my app so that the system could process the change and update the app on if the register changed or not. Thanks for the interface maejrep!
Where is the link to the switch app?
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Yeah? Where is version 1.1.1? 1.1.0 is the only available for download? Or am I a special needs kid?
Force close only.
apollooff320 said:
Where is the link to the switch app?
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VoXHTC said:
Yeah? Where is version 1.1.1? 1.1.0 is the only available for download? Or am I a special needs kid?
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Sorry, maybe I forgot to change the version in the app, 1.1.1 should be the only one linked in the original post.
Sprockethead said:
Force close only.
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Do you meet the minimal requirements on the original post? Because you have to be running a custom kernel with the T2 interface in it.
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im not sure whats wrong, i downloaded this on my phone and it says it dosent recognize the file i downloaded
In this post I'd like to share a small bit of Android information with you. I've discovered it while looking around at the build.prop file and did some research on it, and it turns out to be a pretty cool and powerful feature. Of course, seeing as this requires root you can probably already guess that it involves some more-than-consumer level risk, so anything you do here is your responsibility. This is not a tweak for a fairly novice user. You will need some basic knowledge on command line terminal and how to copy/edit files. I will be assuming you know how to setup and run ADB, and how to execute it and work with it in command prompt.
What's this mod do? Basically it changes your resolution (not really, but for simplicity sake we'll say it does) to a higher pixel density. What this means is everything on your screen will look smaller as if you changed your resolution on your PC to a higher setting. Now obviously we don't want to increase this too much or it will make our screen look bad and be impossible to read things, so I recommend you stick with the settings I have and only tweak it if you're daring.
Now for setup:
1: You require root access for this to work, so make sure you have it prior to doing anything else.
2: Next you will need to get your build.prop file from the /system directory. An easy (and free) way to do this is to use Astro file manager. Open up Astro, navigate to /system/ and copy the build.prop file to the sdcard.
3: Hook the phone up to your PC and enter USB Mass Storage mode. Open the drive on your computer and copy the build.prop file to the desktop.
4: IMPORTANT: make a second copy of this file, and rename it to: build.prop.BAK - accept the change to filetype and leave it alone for now.
5: Open up build.prop using notepad. Once its open you'll see a whole ton of text assuming you have Word Wrap enabled. Press Control + F and type in "density" then press enter.
6: Close out the search menu and find the number "240" to the right of "density"
7: Change the number from 240 to 200. Save the file and close notepad. (Note - higher numbers means bigger text/objects, smaller numbers means smaller text/objects allowing you to fit more on the screen)
8: Put your phone back into PC Mode, and then enable USB Debugging in Settings->Applications->Development
9: At this point I assume you have ADB setup on your PC. Copy and paste the modified build.prop file into the folder with ADB, and then open up a command prompt, change directory to wherever you have ADB installed (ex: cd C:\adb\ ), and type in "adb devices" without the quotes to start ADB and make sure your device is configured properly
10: Now you must push the modified build.prop file to your sdcard. To do so type this in:
adb push build.prop /sdcard/build.prop
11: You should see the text indicating it successfully transferred the file. Now type in "adb shell" without quotes. You should see a $: appear. Once it does, type in "su" and it should change to a #: sign.
12: Now that you're in root access, you must mount /system as read/write to copy over the new build.prop file. To do so type this in exactly as it is, making sure to not skip any spaces or use wrong letters/characters:
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system
You should see the line repeated and that means it went ok. If you get anything else like an error, somethings not right with the text you entered. Go back and double check it.
13: Now we'll copy the file from the sdcard to the system directory to overwrite the old build.prop file:
cp /sdcard/build.prop /system/build.prop
Again, you should see the line repeat below to confirm it copied it successfully. You can now reboot the phone to make the changes happen (note: for a speedy reboot, simply type in "reboot" from the #: prompt, this will drop you out of root shell and do an automatic reboot of your phone pretty neat)
Once your phone is booted back up you should notice some pretty significant changes in appearance. Everything will look smaller much akin to the changes you see on your desktop PC when you increase the resolution from say 800x600 to 1600x1200. In case you want to change it back to the old look, simply re-trace your steps using the original build.prop file, with the pixel density set to 240 instead of 200.
Screenshots for comparison. Note how lines of text are fully exposed in the new screenshots compared to the old ones, where it has to scroll/cut off text in App names etc:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/motorola-x-roms-hacks/32035-how-resolution-tweak-req-root.html
Or you can save a whole lot of time and effort and use this app. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lcd-density-changer-application-v3-0-released/
I think that is pretty sweet bro!! Great finding
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njfoses said:
Or you can save a whole lot of time and effort and use this app. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lcd-density-changer-application-v3-0-released/
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Been using this for a few days now. It works great. They should have released the Evo with the higher resolution from the start.
Looks great in my opinion. I lowered just slightly to 220 and i used RootExplorer to just change the Build.prop file.
Shouldn't this be in general? This is like dpi in windows lol... not resolution
rawdikrik said:
Looks great in my opinion. I lowered just slightly to 220 and i used RootExplorer to just change the Build.prop file.
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yeah, root explorer is fantastic. it even creates a backup for you after you edit the file.
The interesting part about this is, I made a thread about the density change back when the EVO first launched and nobody cared lol
Just changed to 200 with the aforementioned app, the only problem I have is the main status bar and most of the popup menus and stuff look like crap. Hoping we can find some higher resolution (or whatever) pieces to use. Might be because I'm using Manup's theme.
bdoople said:
Just changed to 200 with the aforementioned app, the only problem I have is the main status bar and most of the popup menus and stuff look like crap. Hoping we can find some higher resolution (or whatever) pieces to use. Might be because I'm using Manup's theme.
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i noticed that too....so i just went to like 215. 200 was looking good though
ro.sf.LCD_Density=240
Is that the proper value to change in root explorer?
Right below it, there is another value of 160, that's why I ask. I'm on an Evo
Poor resolution has always bugged me. On such a big screen, that number of pixels really isn't enough. This will be a great mod, just don't wanna mess it up.
Thanks.
see there's an easier way to do everything, by that i mean there is an app for that, lol.
scottspa74 said:
ro.sf.LCD_Density=240
Is that the proper value to change in root explorer?
Right below it, there is another value of 160, that's why I ask. I'm on an Evo
Poor resolution has always bugged me. On such a big screen, that number of pixels really isn't enough. This will be a great mod, just don't wanna mess it up.
Thanks.
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The line below it (With the value of 160) has a # in front of it as that is the default value if none specified. Change the 240 to 200 or 220 or 210 or 190 etc depending on your preferences. Again, appelflap has an awesome application to easily do this for you and it provides a boot monitor as well that will check to make sure you can see the screen, and if you can't it will revert back to default setting in case you mess something up. It costs approximately $1 and is well worth it.
On my evo I am using the app and I set mine to 180. Everything looks fine so far. I don't recommend using it with the sense launcher at this level though.
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Appreciate all the feedback. When it comes to system tweaks like this, I've always preferred to do them manually. Makes it easier to keep track of changes, and, if you know what's goin on 'behind the scenes'. Even with winmo, I always would opt for tweaking via registry editor, rather than some blind, hands-off tweak app.
Thanks all, though.
Edit: ok, foot in mouth. So I opened root explorer, found build.prop, opened it clicked the mount R/O toggle, but can't seem to edit it no matter what. NVM, found editor
Also, I checked out the app on the market, looked at comments and saw lots of people say that density broke certain apps, and can't get back to normal, broken phones, blah blah blah
Anyone speak to this?
Exposes lame apps
Worked great on rooted EVO running CM6.2.
Need to increase the power of my bifocals now!
Also exposes lame apps that display set screen resolutions, such as WeatherChannel. Poopnoodles!
Very cool find, not one I will be keeping though. The taskbar icons get a bit blurry, and the widget/icon spacing looks ugly.
njfoses said:
Or you can save a whole lot of time and effort and use this app. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lcd-density-changer-application-v3-0-released/
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Just tried that. Was able to make a few changes with no problems. As soon as I tried to go back to the stock settings my phone would no longer boot past the white EVO screen. Doing a restore now
And of course the restore isn't working properly for some reason. Argh.
yeah
Yeah, I read the thread by Appleflap, about his app, and it really sounds like there are a lot of issues from doing this (at this point), some of which cannot be recovered from. And at the very least, there are apps and icons that won't scale properly, and there's no fix for that but to find new ones (from the horses mouth).
Things to be worked out by some real sharp devs.
I'm not totally convinced that this makes things anything beyond just smaller. I've been testing this a various resolutions and am not sure it really adds any new pixels...aren't "pixels" more hardware related? If it were just a software thing wouldn't everyone do it?
Is there a way to change/increase resolution of tablet running the vegan 5.1?
I love the high resolution which comes with the gingerbread build?
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Try LCD densitychanger from the market. Its free and doesnt survive a reboot, There is a paid version that will make it permanent. You can do a search of this forum and the instructions for changing it permanently manually are around.
rob_z11 said:
Is there a way to change/increase resolution of tablet running the vegan 5.1?
I love the high resolution which comes with the gingerbread build?
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{from a secret bunker somewhere in the canadian rockies}in /system/build.prop there's a line that says ro.sf.lcd_density=xxx the default android density is 160. The actual pixel density of the gtablet is ~120. Since xxx is really only a UI scaling factor relative to 160, you should get reasonable results with a number between 120 and 160... 120 will make things smaller. 140 seems about right to me.
If you use RootExplorer, navigate to /system, mount it as r/w, select build.prop and open in text editor... edit the line, save your changes, and mount the directory as r/o... and reboot.
If you don't use RootExplorer, edit the file elsewhere and push it back using adb.
bittrix said:
{from a secret bunker somewhere in the canadian rockies}in /system/build.prop there's a line that says ro.sf.lcd_density=xxx the default android density is 160. The actual pixel density of the gtablet is ~120. Since xxx is really only a UI scaling factor relative to 160, you should get reasonable results with a number between 120 and 160... 120 will make things smaller. 140 seems about right to me.
If you use RootExplorer, navigate to /system, mount it as r/w, select build.prop and open in text editor... edit the line, save your changes, and mount the directory as r/o... and reboot.
If you don't use RootExplorer, edit the file elsewhere and push it back using adb.
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Thank you both for your help, and I think 120 is too small, and 140 did the trick for me which is the nice combination of the workspace and not too much strain on eyes.
I am sorry to report you Bittrix, but down in Florida temperature is gong to hit 60 and may be 68 tomorrow, so enjoy the cold weather in Canadian rockies
I use 120 for my tablet on all roms. I used 140 for awhile when starting to use lcd density, but eventually went to 120 because of app issues. 120 and 160 seem to nativly supported in android, and numbers in between its hit or miss as to whether they would work or not, even with compatibility turned on. (Some would only take up 3/4 of the screen instead of full or not open at all)
My build.prop does not have a line ro.sf.lcd_density=xxx and am running the latest Vegan build...
Any ideas?
EDIT: Added the line and no issues - just dont like it that small.. reverted back. Thanks
bittrix said:
{from a secret bunker somewhere in the canadian rockies}in /system/build.prop there's a line that says ro.sf.lcd_density=xxx the default android density is 160. The actual pixel density of the gtablet is ~120. Since xxx is really only a UI scaling factor relative to 160, you should get reasonable results with a number between 120 and 160... 120 will make things smaller. 140 seems about right to me.
If you use RootExplorer, navigate to /system, mount it as r/w, select build.prop and open in text editor... edit the line, save your changes, and mount the directory as r/o... and reboot.
If you don't use RootExplorer, edit the file elsewhere and push it back using adb.
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Moved to general
First of all many thanks to all those people who have made it possible to run CM10 on our mobiles - Kabaldan most importantly for developing CM10 and skrilax for the nightly builds. Also all developers like zepellinrox, fufu for the various applications, scripts and tweaks.
Since other users asked for a list of tweaks/modifications etc. I prepared this post.
The things I am proposing below are working for me, they might not work or be suitable to you and the way you use your device. I am just sharing my experiences.
Before installation:
- Fast micro sdhc card (4K random writes at 2 MB/s)
- 1 Ext 3 partition of 950 MB
- 1 Swap Partition of 950 MB
- Fufu open recovery minimod v.0.23
- Wipe all
After installation
- Install miui cam app from the link below. The first time camera is run, it asks for default application just choose the miui
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1687161&d=1359486822
- Install Quickpic. The first time gallery is run, it asks for default application, just choose quickpic.
- If there is a trouble with alarms of the default clock application (app freezing after choosing alarms) just erase cache of the app.
- Install FTL Launcher Lite (free mode is ok – no need for the paid one).
- Activate swap. I am using 98swapon script by fufu and I activate the whole of the available swap on my card. With the settings I use after a couple of days it usually stays below 100 MB. If you want experiment with fixed 64 MB, 80 MB or 128 MB.
- Install script manager from market
- Download the latest zeppelinrox script and the supercharger starter kit
From the starter kit install only sqlite3+zipalign_installer_v6.sh
Run the supercharger script and install it and activate what you want (I have activated everything and use 512 MB multitasking settings)
After that you will achieve 50% activation of the script.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
- Download Ultimate Jar Power Tools windows version. In order to install it you need to activate usb debugging and run the application as administrator from the pc. I think you also need Motorola drivers so that the phone is recognized by the pc. I activate everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914159
- I install autostarts, this is a program with which you can disable startup items. It is a paid app, I have not searched if there is a free alternative. I disable almost all non-system apps that I do not want running after boot and some system ones with great care like maps.
- I disable hardware acceleration for most apps I usually run. I have found this makes things a bit faster. This is because we are running with a CM9 graphics driver (maybe this is not the only reason, please correct me).
- After installing about 50 apps I have some trouble with play store. The app downloads but never installs. I have to exit play store, open a couple of apps that need much memory (e.g. navigation software, browsers etc.). After that I fire up play store again and the app starts installing. Also it has happened with some big apps in size (above 20 MB) that it says no free space is available. After clearing the cache of apps like web browsers, skype, navigation software, etc. the installation is possible.
- In order to make vibration stick even after reboot, it must be activated in profile settings. If the choice is made through the drawer it is lost after a reboot.
Most probably I have forgotten something; I will add it later on…
950MB for swap? Really? Too big.
Improve speed by setting all (3; windows, scale and speed) animations to disabled in Dev Options.
Uninstall Gallery and Trebuchet when you have installed an other app (QuickPic, FLT or Lightning Launcher) same for the Cam App.
I will keep this reply updated with all infos I can remember.
Never intended to use 950 MB swap with milestone and whenever I have seen the swap going over 150 MB in usage the phone is at the edge of usability. There are scripts and apps with which you can set a specific part of the swap partition for swap so you can actually set whatever you want from the 950 MB.
When going from one mobile to the next I usually don't format the card, since mp3s and so on will remain there. I formatted the card assuming that I would use it with my future phone as well and anyhow 32 GB are more than I currently use (about 15 GB). My last memory card of 8 GB came from my previous phone.
I was doing tests to see when the phone started to lag and this is why I had let it unlimited to the full 950 MB. It was about the time I installed zepellinrox script with ultimate jar tools. One side effect was that swap grew very slowly in comparison with before. I noticed that even after 3-4 days rarely it exceeded about 100 MB. Fufu also said that he would include in his script the option to set a specific size of the swap in the next version. So I kinda let it there.
Thanks _crAss_ for the usefull post and the work you put into it to help others. Whenever I have the time I will take the plunge into CM10 to see how it goes. As soon as I get it to my liking and if I enconter any problems/issues I will report it here so others might read as well.
Thanks again. :good:
I think one the most important of all this tricks is the fast SD Card. But I'm unable to find a good one. Mine is a SDC10/8GB from Kingston, but is not really fast at 4K writes. Do someone know good models? I want to buy a new one if it complies the necessary speed.
There is a post at another forum with lots of benchmarks. I give the link below. The problem is that different production dates give different results. I got the transcend Ultra 32 Gb, the results are not the same as the ones reported in that post, but are comparable and fortunately the 4K random writes is good. My old card was a Toshiba class 6 bought years ago, presenting class 10 speeds in sequential read/write. Unfortunately 4K writes were down to 0.016 KB/s making it unusable for swap (I used to use the internal memory for swap then).
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1582172
Also yesterday I installed viber and experienced huge battery drain, about 10-10% per hour. Even though I disabled everything through autostarts it kept popping up in running apps list and I guess it constantly tried to connect to no avail (since I activate wifi or 3G only when I want to log on to the internet). The new battery I have with moderate use goes up to 2 days, so imagine my shock of going down to almost in a couple of hours with screen off during the night...
I´ve installed CM10 on my phone and I´m in the process of configuring all the apps I need on it. I will just give my first impressions of the pros ands cons.
Pros:
- CM10 seems smoother than 9 (when everything works correctly), but this might be due to cpu overclock settings (I´ll explain later);
- Still did not experiment with other cm10 exclusive functions like Google Now for example, but if they work that is a plus for me;
- Contacts Import/Export from SDCard option available from the Phone app;
- SMS sending on Enter issue with CM9 seems not hapening on 10 (I remember using it before and it did not happen on 10). Still need to further check on that.
Cons:
- Power button options do not include a screenshot option (as CM9 did);
- Notification bar when pulled hides the icons on top (I do believe on cm9 they remained there), and the user can´t see, in real time, the changes made;
- Network icon stays blank when conection is very,very low/no conection is possible (happens a lot with ****ty Vodafone at may house), to the point that I do not know if I do not have any conection at all (on CM9 when the network was inexistent a "x" appeard instead of the network strengh bars);
- Camera app does not have the option (nor the media/camera sounds renaming option helps) to disable shutter and focus sounds (it could be useful for people who wanted to use the stock camera for photos and panorama and another camera for video). I´m using UCam at the moment and the option is there. Did not try MUIU camera nor Zoom Camera as other options yet as mencioned somewhere, but I believe at least MUIU camera does not have panorama option (a feature I love to use and used alot on CM9);
- Overclock feature does not stick even after a screen on/off situation. It always reverts back to maximum 1000MHZ cpu clock (what I talked above-maybe the smootheness I feel is due to the cpu clock this high?). Most probably. My battery came to 20% from 100% in less than 6 hours with the cpu clocked like that.
On CM9 I used to use 600MHZ for comon tasks and 800MHZ for heavier tasks/heavy games (along with Swap enabled) and it did the trick perfectly. More than 800MHZ the cpu just gets to hot and the battery drain is too high in my opinion. Using the overclock script mod (when you need to change/scale everything to the clock you need) simply does not cut it for the use I´m after (quick change between options). Will try and see if old Milestone Overclock does the job on CM10.
From the top of my head these seem to be the things that popped out at first glance (and some really anoying - like the cpu thing). Will test it further and report back :good:
P.S: Is it possible to disable the CRT screen off style? I do prefer a simpler "old" school screen off style.
First of all which governor have you set? With it set to inteactive most of the time it settles at 250 MHz when doing nothing. I get (with a new battery) very long standby times. Even when fooling around with the phone a lot I can get easily a full day.
The screenshot in the power button menu can be activated in settings (System-Power menu).
If I remember correctly the animations can be turned off in Developer options.
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First of all which governor have you set? With it set to inteactive most of the time it settles at 250 MHz when doing nothing. I get (with a new battery) very long standby times. Even when fooling around with the phone a lot I can get easily a full day.
The screenshot in the power button menu can be activated in settings (System-Power menu).
If I remember correctly the animations can be turned off in Developer options.
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Thanks for the reply. The governor setting is set to interactive, but still when I do use the phone it ramps up to 1000MHZ which, at least in my phone,the battery has got to years plus, it shortens battery life a lot, and I do believe the cpu gets to hot for my liking really. I installed Set CPU, the problem with it is that sometimes when rebooting the stock governor settings stick and override the Setcpu one´s. Other times it does not happen, and Setcpu one´s prevaile...
Relating the screenshot option, I found the menu I needed thanks to your input:good:. Still I can´t find any option for the CRT animation under development options or any other option really. Maybe it is not present on CM10? Other things I notice on CM10 is that sometimes when turning the phone on (booting) it does not always lock on my network provider, even filling in the pin number. Sometimes I go and notice the network is not activated at all and have to put the phone to fligh mode and back again for it to lock in. Other than that I´m installing all my apps and will see how it goes. For now it is snappy enough
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I´ve installed CM10 on my phone and I´m in the process of configuring all the apps I need on it. I will just give my first impressions of the pros ands cons.
Pros:
- CM10 seems smoother than 9 (when everything works correctly), but this might be due to cpu overclock settings (I´ll explain later);
- Still did not experiment with other cm10 exclusive functions like Google Now for example, but if they work that is a plus for me;
- Contacts Import/Export from SDCard option available from the Phone app;
- SMS sending on Enter issue with CM9 seems not hapening on 10 (I remember using it before and it did not happen on 10). Still need to further check on that.
Cons:
- Power button options do not include a screenshot option (as CM9 did);
- Notification bar when pulled hides the icons on top (I do believe on cm9 they remained there), and the user can´t see, in real time, the changes made;
- Network icon stays blank when conection is very,very low/no conection is possible (happens a lot with ****ty Vodafone at may house), to the point that I do not know if I do not have any conection at all (on CM9 when the network was inexistent a "x" appeard instead of the network strengh bars);
- Camera app does not have the option (nor the media/camera sounds renaming option helps) to disable shutter and focus sounds (it could be useful for people who wanted to use the stock camera for photos and panorama and another camera for video). I´m using UCam at the moment and the option is there. Did not try MUIU camera nor Zoom Camera as other options yet as mencioned somewhere, but I believe at least MUIU camera does not have panorama option (a feature I love to use and used alot on CM9);
- Overclock feature does not stick even after a screen on/off situation. It always reverts back to maximum 1000MHZ cpu clock (what I talked above-maybe the smootheness I feel is due to the cpu clock this high?). Most probably. My battery came to 20% from 100% in less than 6 hours with the cpu clocked like that.
On CM9 I used to use 600MHZ for comon tasks and 800MHZ for heavier tasks/heavy games (along with Swap enabled) and it did the trick perfectly. More than 800MHZ the cpu just gets to hot and the battery drain is too high in my opinion. Using the overclock script mod (when you need to change/scale everything to the clock you need) simply does not cut it for the use I´m after (quick change between options). Will try and see if old Milestone Overclock does the job on CM10.
From the top of my head these seem to be the things that popped out at first glance (and some really anoying - like the cpu thing). Will test it further and report back :good:
P.S: Is it possible to disable the CRT screen off style? I do prefer a simpler "old" school screen off style.
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Dear Ricfil,
I also agree with most of your findings.Are you using the stock launcher 'Trebuchet'?If you install 'Lightening Launcher' and delete Trbuchet CM10 will become more smooth.More over Lightening Launcher is lighter than than Trebuchet and FTL Launcher also.
Regarding UCam,it's present update is much worse than the previous making it user unfriendly and it's camera mode unusable.So I uninstalled it and tried with MIUI Camera.Although it is much light with 463 KB it is spartan and lacks major options like video flash.video zoom ,panorama camera etc.So I installed Zoom Camera now and found it is the most smoothest than the stck,MIUI&UCam having a low weight of 550 KB,with all functions like,Video Zoom,Video Flash,Shutter Sounds,Panorama, abundant options of focusing&colour filters etc.It's also is the most user friendly and it is having frequent updates also.
Coming to Battery Drain,if you install an apk from Playstore namely 'Greenify',it will considerably reduce the battery drain by hibernating unwanted applications running in the background all the time.It will allow the apk to run only when it is needed.
About CRT I don't know much much about it.So will you please through some light on it so we can understand in detail?
Thanking you...
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- Power button options do not include a screenshot option (as CM9 did);
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Did you enable this option (Settings > System > Power menu)? I loved this feature in CM10 (don't remember if it is available in CM9).
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- Network icon stays blank when conection is very,very low/no conection is possible (happens a lot with ****ty Vodafone at may house), to the point that I do not know if I do not have any conection at all (on CM9 when the network was inexistent a "x" appeard instead of the network strengh bars);
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This was changed in CM10. When you have no signal, the icon is a unfilled triangle with a thin border. But if there is signal, but it is too low, you see the dark grey bars.
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P.S: Is it possible to disable the CRT screen off style? I do prefer a simpler "old" school screen off style.
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I didn't find the option, maybe kabaldan didn't put it yet.
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Dear Ricfil,
I also agree with most of your findings.Are you using the stock launcher 'Trebuchet'?If you install 'Lightening Launcher' and delete Trbuchet CM10 will become more smooth.More over Lightening Launcher is lighter than than Trebuchet and FTL Launcher also.
Regarding UCam,it's present update is much worse than the previous making it user unfriendly and it's camera mode unusable.So I uninstalled it and tried with MIUI Camera.Although it is much light with 463 KB it is spartan and lacks major options like video flash.video zoom ,panorama camera etc.So I installed Zoom Camera now and found it is the most smoothest than the stck,MIUI&UCam having a low weight of 550 KB,with all functions like,Video Zoom,Video Flash,Shutter Sounds,Panorama, abundant options of focusing&colour filters etc.It's also is the most user friendly and it is having frequent updates also.
Coming to Battery Drain,if you install an apk from Playstore namely 'Greenify',it will considerably reduce the battery drain by hibernating unwanted applications running in the background all the time.It will allow the apk to run only when it is needed.
About CRT I don't know much much about it.So will you please through some light on it so we can understand in detail?
Thanking you...
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:good: Thanks for the info man.
Relating Lightning Launcher, I´ve tried it before but the learning curve for it is to much for me right now. I need something easy ti use and fast. This Launcher is so amazing in the way it has got so much it can do that it tends to be to overwhelming, for me at least. I´m using the good "old" Launcher Pro on CM10 and for now it is doing the job pretty well in my opinion. Fast, stable, with all I need.
Another subject I notice is when titanium restoring apps some of them restore to the sdcard (not internal memory-ext partition). if I try to move them to the ext partition(internal memory) with the built in app configuration of CM10 an error appeares relating low memory on internal memory-when there is plenty of memory in there-on the ext partition. A workaround I found was using Titanium himself to move the apps to internal memory. It does the trick for me
Relating the camera aspect, I´m fortunate enough to have an old UCam version (agree with you, last one is not indeed user friendly-I much prefer the version I´m using). Will have to check Zoom Camera to see how it goes for me. By the way, did you unistall stock Camera and Galery? If so, did you do it the normal (aplication configuration) way?
Will definetly check the Greenify app also. But still the 1000MHZ clock is there, which is too much in my opinion at least. I´ve already created 2 10 overclock files with one of them with max cpu clock at 800MHZ (for heavy stuff-like games and such) and one with 600MHZ (for common tasks). They work great, the problem is that the script only sticks at boot, If I could find a way to make it stick when the system is on that would be awesome (to swap between them on the fly ). It probably isn´t possible-at leats for now.
The CRT aspect I mencion is the effect you see when pressing the power/on/off button to turn the screen off (that quick white line effect you see, like it happened with "old" CRT TVs (don´t know if your familiar with them, those big boxes of the 70s/80s/90S
Do you have a way to turn that effect off? On CM9 there was an option for it. On 10 I can´t seem to find it.
Will continue configuring the phone and will be posting back:good:
Thanks again.
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Tiago Costa said:
Did you enable this option (Settings > System > Power menu)? I loved this feature in CM10 (don't remember if it is available in CM9).
This was changed in CM10. When you have no signal, the icon is a unfilled triangle with a thin border. But if there is signal, but it is too low, you see the dark grey bars.
I didn't find the option, maybe kabaldan didn't put it yet.
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Screenshot issue:
Obrigado. O user _crAss_ ajudou-me com essa opção é já a encontrei
Thank you. User _crAss_ helped me with that option and I´ve already found it.
Network Icon:
Yhea, I did get that. I guess I prefered the x icon when no network was available, because I do not know if when the signal is to low any bar appear (and if so, that might confuse me between very low signal and no signal at all). When the signal is good the bars are clearer?! I do believe this change is way more confusing than using the CM9 method, but... opinions
CRT style screen off:
Yhea, same here... :good:
Obrigado.
Thanks again
Ricfil said:
When the signal is good the bars are clearer?!
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Yes, they are almost white, it's very easy to distinguish them. But when data is activated and working well, they turn blue.
Ricfil said:
Obrigado.
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De nada ! You're welcome.
Ricfil said:
:good: Thanks for the info man.
Relating Lightning Launcher, I´ve tried it before but the learning curve for it is to much for me right now. I need something easy ti use and fast. This Launcher is so amazing in the way it has got so much it can do that it tends to be to overwhelming, for me at least. I´m using the good "old" Launcher Pro on CM10 and for now it is doing the job pretty well in my opinion. Fast, stable, with all I need.
Another subject I notice is when titanium restoring apps some of them restore to the sdcard (not internal memory-ext partition). if I try to move them to the ext partition(internal memory) with the built in app configuration of CM10 an error appeares relating low memory on internal memory-when there is plenty of memory in there-on the ext partition. A workaround I found was using Titanium himself to move the apps to internal memory. It does the trick for me
Relating the camera aspect, I´m fortunate enough to have an old UCam version (agree with you, last one is not indeed user friendly-I much prefer the version I´m using). Will have to check Zoom Camera to see how it goes for me. By the way, did you unistall stock Camera and Galery? If so, did you do it the normal (aplication configuration) way?
Will definetly check the Greenify app also. But still the 1000MHZ clock is there, which is too much in my opinion at least. I´ve already created 2 10 overclock files with one of them with max cpu clock at 800MHZ (for heavy stuff-like games and such) and one with 600MHZ (for common tasks). They work great, the problem is that the script only sticks at boot, If I could find a way to make it stick when the system is on that would be awesome (to swap between them on the fly ). It probably isn´t possible-at leats for now.
The CRT aspect I mencion is the effect you see when pressing the power/on/off button to turn the screen off (that quick white line effect you see, like it happened with "old" CRT TVs (don´t know if your familiar with them, those big boxes of the 70s/80s/90S
Do you have a way to turn that effect off? On CM9 there was an option for it. On 10 I can´t seem to find it.
Will continue configuring the phone and will be posting back:good:
Thanks again.
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Obrigado. O user _crAss_ ajudou-me com essa opção é já a encontrei
Thank you. User _crAss_ helped me with that option and I´ve already found it.
Network Icon:
Yhea, I did get that. I guess I prefered the x icon when no network was available, because I do not know if when the signal is to low any bar appear (and if so, that might confuse me between very low signal and no signal at all). When the signal is good the bars are clearer?! I do believe this change is way more confusing than using the CM9 method, but... opinions
CRT style screen off:
Yhea, same here... :good:
Obrigado.
Thanks again
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Thanks Ricfil for the reply.
regarding stock gallery apk,I uninstalled it using TitaniumBackup with deletion of Backup and wiping of Data.
Coming to setting of CPU,have you used the facility in Settings/Performance/Processor/Maximum CPU frequency to set maximum to 800?
Regarding installation apks,I use the following method.After installation using Playstore or side loading the apks which show in the internal memory are moved to SD Card using Titanium Backup.AT first Titanium will ask whether Ext partition has to be activated.I opted yes.Thereafter Titanium will move all the apks to sd .In it there is also option to move the apks to internal memory.
And thanks for the information for CRT.Iam familier with it with my CRT TV.But I am sorry to offer a remark since I didn't give a particular noticce for it.
Thank you again
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Yes, they are almost white, it's very easy to distinguish them. But when data is activated and working well, they turn blue.
De nada ! You're welcome.
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Ok. I guess I´ll have to live with the color adaptation in the network icon on CM10 . I guess it must be ok, after a few days/months of usage.
Thanks.
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pnsdhrn said:
Thanks Ricfil for the reply.
regarding stock gallery apk,I uninstalled it using TitaniumBackup with deletion of Backup and wiping of Data.
Coming to setting of CPU,have you used the facility in Settings/Performance/Processor/Maximum CPU frequency to set maximum to 800?
Regarding installation apks,I use the following method.After installation using Playstore or side loading the apks which show in the internal memory are moved to SD Card using Titanium Backup.AT first Titanium will ask whether Ext partition has to be activated.I opted yes.Thereafter Titanium will move all the apks to sd .In it there is also option to move the apks to internal memory.
And thanks for the information for CRT.Iam familier with it with my CRT TV.But I am sorry to offer a remark since I didn't give a particular noticce for it.
Thank you again
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Ok. If I understood correctly, you unistalled the galery.apk of the phone using titanium, and after also deleted the galery backup on Titanium?... Did not quite get it May I simply unistall the camera and gallery whithout the phone go bootloop or something like that (my main issue, since no backup was made yet)?
Regarding Titanium apps installation, mine did not ask where I wanted the apps to be installed, they simply install and the stock app2ext script installs the apps onto the ext partition (when it works-since some apps do not install using the stock functions on my phone). That is why I mencioned I´m using titanium to "force install" apps to internal memory (ext partition). I´ve managed to install them all, will see if they are not broken or something like that.
On a side note. I´m pretty shure when I first installed CM10 (5 months ago) it had the option on keyboard settings to choose to disable the enter key to send sms messages (hardware keyboard). That was one of the things that made me switch to it again, since CM9 does not have this option. But lately I´ve been looking for that option and it is no longer there. At least I can´t find it...arghhh I HATE the lack of that feature. Pisses me off! LOL. Maybe kabaldan took the option out? Hope not...
Also today, a feature I was having pretty comonly the first time I installed CM10 happened again. The "Telephony problem-phone needs to reboot" dreadfull window appeard again, no network resulted from there and a reboot was the only way out of it. Some bugs I guess... that is why CM10 is still in Alpha stage I believe...
See you.
P.S: I´ve just read a private message from a fellow forum member named Sunxperous who was kind enough to help me out regarding the CRT style effect option. Better than using my on words, I believe he might not mind if I put here what he explained about the options to enable and disable that setting. It went like this:
Hello
I do not have the number of posts required to post in the development forums, so here is a private message with regards to the screen-off CRT animation.
I believe the option you are looking for is found under Settings > Developer Options, "Window animation scale". A scale of 1x renders the CRT effect, a scale of 0.5x and off disables the CRT effect.
I read elsewhere on the forum that turning the animation scales off or setting them at 0.5x makes the phone feel snappier. I liked the CRT animation, hence I kept "Window animation scale" at 1x.
I hope this helps, and if it does, do enlighten fellow Milestone users in the thread about it.
Sun
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Big thanks for his contribution and once again thanks for the info :good:
Ricfil said:
Ok. I guess I´ll have to live with the color adaptation in the network icon on CM10 . I guess it must be ok, after a few days/months of usage.
Thanks.
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Ok. If I understood correctly, you unistalled the galery.apk of the phone using titanium, and after also deleted the galery backup on Titanium?... Did not quite get it May I simply unistall the camera and gallery whithout the phone go bootloop or something like that (my main issue, since no backup was made yet)?
Regarding Titanium apps installation, mine did not ask where I wanted the apps to be installed, they simply install and the stock app2ext script installs the apps onto the ext partition (when it works-since some apps do not install using the stock functions on my phone). That is why I mencioned I´m using titanium to "force install" apps to internal memory (ext partition). I´ve managed to install them all, will see if they are not broken or something like that.
On a side note. I´m pretty shure when I first installed CM10 (5 months ago) it had the option on keyboard settings to choose to disable the enter key to send sms messages (hardware keyboard). That was one of the things that made me switch to it again, since CM9 does not have this option. But lately I´ve been looking for that option and it is no longer there. At least I can´t find it...arghhh I HATE the lack of that feature. Pisses me off! LOL. Maybe kabaldan took the option out? Hope not...
Also today, a feature I was having pretty comonly the first time I installed CM10 happened again. The "Telephony problem-phone needs to reboot" dreadfull window appeard again, no network resulted from there and a reboot was the only way out of it. Some bugs I guess... that is why CM10 is still in Alpha stage I believe...
See you.
P.S: I´ve just read a private message from a fellow forum member named Sunxperous who was kind enough to help me out regarding the CRT style effect option. Better than using my on words, I believe he might not mind if I put here what he explained about the options to enable and disable that setting. It went like this:
Big thanks for his contribution and once again thanks for the info :good:
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Regarding uninstallation of gallery.apk,I uninstalled it using Titanium with deletion of Backup.You can uninstall without deleting Backup.If Backup is deleted you can't restore the apk with Titanium.
Titanium will ask only in the first time after flashing the ROM with a full wipe and reinstalling Titanium as to whether ext sd card is to be configured for installing the apks.If we agree to it then it will install the apks to ext sd card automatically all the time afterwards without repeating the same question.
In relation to keyboard settings for "enter key' I also do not see any options in Settings/language input.
But I experience a problem with MMS.?The phone does not send MMS eventhough I completed the APN set up for the MMS as per the default settings specifications provided by my Carrier provider.When I press the SEND button the MMS shows 'Sending'.But it never sends.What should be the problem and what is the remedy?
Thanking you once more....
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Titanium will ask only in the first time after flashing the ROM with a full wipe and reinstalling Titanium as to whether ext sd card is to be configured for installing the apks.If we agree to it then it will install the apks to ext sd card automatically all the time afterwards without repeating the same question.
But I experience a problem with MMS.?The phone does not send MMS eventhough I completed the APN set up for the MMS as per the default settings specifications provided by my Carrier provider.When I press the SEND button the MMS shows 'Sending'.But it never sends.What should be the problem and what is the remedy?
Thanking you once more....
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Titanium did not ask that on first time for me. I´m pretty shure it didn´t. Nevertheless, I found the way mencioned before to install all the misisng apps to internal/ext partition.
Relating the mms issue, I havent tried to send an mms yet. Will let you know how it goes when I do. If you did enable "activated data" option on definitons>wireless & networks>more>mobile networks, have network data enabled on the carrier side and it still does not send it, it is probably another CM10 bug I guess. I´ve read about people also having problems with tethering and the likes... Things meant to happen in "a work in progress" I guess...
Regarding Grennify, I´ve already configured all the apps possible to be hibernated on the app, but still, system apps like Maps, Google Play and others (which are always turning on on background memory) cannot be "grennified", with a warning that those system apps can´t be "touched"... It would be cool if this app would actually let users grennify all available apps...
Just remembered, things I don´t like on the notification area on CM10: The fact that the drop down isn´t semi-transparant like on CM9 and date is above the icons with big letters (personal opinion, but I prefered the smaller below the icons date letters on CM9). Small issues I believe .
Things I do like on CM10 notification area:
Available info regarding calls received, sms received and the option to directly send an sms back/call someone on the fly. I also like the fact that the user is able to quick delete all running background apps on multitasking menu by simply clicking one button. Good thinking! :good:
Thanks for the heads up.
Ricfil said:
Titanium did not ask that on first time for me. I´m pretty shure it didn´t. Nevertheless, I found the way mencioned before to install all the misisng apps to internal/ext partition.
Relating the mms issue, I havent tried to send an mms yet. Will let you know how it goes when I do. If you did enable "activated data" option on definitons>wireless & networks>more>mobile networks, have network data enabled on the carrier side and it still does not send it, it is probably another CM10 bug I guess. I´ve read about people also having problems with tethering and the likes... Things meant to happen in "a work in progress" I guess...
Regarding Grennify, I´ve already configured all the apps possible to be hibernated on the app, but still, system apps like Maps, Google Play and others (which are always turning on on background memory) cannot be "grennified", with a warning that those system apps can´t be "touched"... It would be cool if this app would actually let users grennify all available apps...
Just remembered, things I don´t like on the notification area on CM10: The fact that the drop down isn´t semi-transparant like on CM9 and date is above the icons with big letters (personal opinion, but I prefered the smaller below the icons date letters on CM9). Small issues I believe .
Things I do like on CM10 notification area:
Available info regarding calls received, sms received and the option to directly send an sms back/call someone on the fly. I also like the fact that the user is able to quick delete all running background apps on multitasking menu by simply clicking one button. Good thinking! :good:
Thanks for the heads up.
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Maps and Google Search can be greenified by converting it user apk using Titanium or by uninstalling them and reinstalling from Playstore.I didn't try to greenify Playstore as it may become harmful sometimes considering the unpredictable nature of it.But I think it won't run in background all the time if we get out of it after it's use by long pressing the back button if this button has assigned 'kill apk function'.
And waiting for your report on MMS after your test in convenience,
with thanks....
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Maps and Google Search can be greenified by converting it user apk using Titanium or by uninstalling them and reinstalling from Playstore.I didn't try to greenify Playstore as it may become harmful sometimes considering the unpredictable nature of it.But I think it won't run in background all the time if we get out of it after it's use by long pressing the back button if this button has assigned 'kill apk function'.
And waiting for your report on MMS after your test in convenience,
with thanks....
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Ok man. Thanks. I´ve used Titanium to convert Maps and Google Search to user apps and it works wonders Play Store does not work, whenever you go to update an app, Play Store crashes and never launches again, with an error. It must be a system app I believe - when coverted back all went ok. On the first launch Greenify seemed to ocuppy lots of ram on my phone, making it sluggish, but after a reboot all started to go well It seems a pretty nice app indeed.
Relating the mms option, I do not use it a lot, but when I get my operator monthly feed on the phone again (low on cash at the moment ) will try to send one an see how it goes. Will report back here.
Take care man.
Before my Asus tf700 Infinity, I owned a Samsung Galaxy Tab. I purchased some programs and games for it, and all was well until it was stolen. The problem? Now I've downloaded and used those same apps on my tf700 Infinity, and the orientation is off by ninety degrees on quite a few. It has to do with Android's API and Honeycomb, and how the default base orientation is set in the framework policy. Before tablets, the default orientation for the Android API was portrait, but tablets made landscape defaults a possible better default. Apps not written to accommodate this would have the sensors read 90 degrees skewed for landscape default devices (like my tf700), because the sensor data is being read from landscape (regardless of orientation), but interpreted as portrait by the app. Even though my Galaxy Tab was a tablet, it's default orientation was portrait, so there was no 90 degre skew. I have read enough to know that it's possible to change the Android system default value, but it has to be changed in the framework . . . No easy task, especially if the rom is ODEXed.
So . . . anyone have any advice or fix so my paid apps aren't wasted money? I don't think emailing every single developer is the key, when I could modify a single system value to fix the problem for all apps. Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated.
Doesnt ever gyro-based app/game have a recalibration setting? Have you tried that?
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GrayHat137 said:
So . . . anyone have any advice or fix so my paid apps aren't wasted money?
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You could try Ultimate Rotation Control. It can have an individual setting for each application (Forced Portrait/Forced Landscape/Forced Auto).
ShadowLea said:
Doesnt ever gyro-based app/game have a recalibration setting? Have you tried that?
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The problem is that the data the app is getting is from the sensors is rotated 90 degrees. For example, if the app assumes the tilt data it is getting is from the left and right: tilt left, go left. On my tablet, it's default boot state is landscape, so if the app is asking for the sensor info the wrong way (a deprecated way - from before the Honeycomb API), it's getting the tilt axis from the top and bottom, so: tilt up, go left. I can calibrate, but I still have to tilt up to go left.
Sounds like badly programmed apps to me. Have you tried asking the devs to update based on the correct APIs?
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You could try Ultimate Rotation Control[/URL]. It can have an individual setting for each application (Forced Portrait/Forced Landscape/Forced Auto).
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I had hoped it would override the default framework, but apps were still polling the sensors wrong no matter which orientation they were displayed in. The sensor data was rotating the same amount as the app, but the original sensor data was still originally off by 90%.
Thanks for the tip; Ultimate Rotation Control is a good app that solved another issue I had, just not this one.
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Sounds like badly programmed apps to me. Have you tried asking the devs to update based on the correct APIs?
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Yes, that's the consensus. Some I've asked, others are no longer in active development (nostalgia for holding onto these apps). I stumbled upon a web hit while googling for answers, the solution was about changing a simple setting in the android framework, but I'm a not experienced with ADB, and things like ODEXing and DeODEXing are nerve-wracking while I learn and experiment.
Also, thanks for coming sbdags. Running Xenogenesis since late April, fantastic job! :good:
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Yes, that's the consensus. Some I've asked, others are no longer in active development (nostalgia for holding onto these apps). I stumbled upon a web hit while googling for answers, the solution was about changing a simple setting in the android framework, but I'm a not experienced with ADB, and things like ODEXing and DeODEXing are nerve-wracking while I learn and experiment.
Also, thanks for coming sbdags. Running Xenogenesis since late April, fantastic job! :good:
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Which part of the framework do you need to change?
sbdags said:
Which part of the framework do you need to change?
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Navigate to the androidpolicy\com\android\internal\policy\impl folder and open PhoneWindowManager.smali in your favorite text editor (Notepad++ is my favorite)
Search for the method "rotationfororientation"
(Picture of code here)
Make note of the variables (v#) for portrait and landscape (in my case portrait is v5)
Scroll to the end of the method and you should find something like:
"move v2, v5" (make sure it's the last move command before the end of the method)
Change the second variable (in this case v5) to whatever orientation you wish to be default. In my case I have set portrait as the default orientation.
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There are other steps, but this is the only variable changed. I can't post links yet, and I didn't want to copy all of the text there, but that's it. The attached picture is the picture of the code.
Eureka!
GrayHat137 said:
There are other steps, but this is the only variable changed. I can't post links yet, and I didn't want to copy all of the text there, but that's it. The attached picture is the picture of the code.
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Dear friends,
As I was also facing the same problem in my Ubislate 7C+(EDGE) tab by DATAWIND. While reading your post an idea struck to my mind. With the help of Root Browser app I navigated to /system/build.prop, opened it in text editor and in "ADDITIONAL_BUILD_PROPERTIES" changed the value of "ro.sf.hwrotation=270" 270 to 180 saved it and rebooted the tablet. Yes! the problem was solved but it created a new problem that the orientation of animation while boot and camera orientation has changed now but in order to rectify it I pulled bootanimation.zip to my computer and after unzipping it changed the orientation of animation files from portrait to landscape. Changed the orientation in 'desc.txt' from 480 800 to 800 400 and zipped both without any compression. Pushed it back to /system/media and changed the permission, user,group to original one with the help of root browser. Then for camera orientation with the help of root browser I navigated to /system/etc/camera.cfg opened it in RB text editor and changed camera orientation from 90 to 0, saved it and rebooted my tablet and now all the games using gsensor tilt are working fine.
Thanks,:good:
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I had the same problemen, i resolved it by going to setting, location and then status (only GPS) then i started GPS tools , just waited a min or so . now everthing is oké again.
I hope thuis helps you