Hi, I have a slight (and random) problem
I upgraded my phone to wm6.5.3 (from default rom of wm6.1)
I was not aware that there would be compatibility issues ... (only difference is interface I thought -.-)
I have had 3 programs/games that have had issues, 2 freeware, 1 commercial (already sent email to dev)
all have different programs, but they all worked fine in wm6.1 (on both my htc universal and ipaq 910c, and ipaq 910c emu)
the one question I'm hoping to get help on is the error message I posted above in the title
I get a window (error) with the following message:
this application requires a 16 bit pocket pc or smartphone
Now, I am 100% sure that is IS a legit pocket pc app (ran the same files on my htc and emu in wm6.1), however, I can't even find the website anymore (some random 16 tile mahjong game from a Chinese website I found a LONG time ago)
the error seems weird....I couldn't even find it on google/xda....
any advice?
PS: my ipaq 910c is annoying, forced landscape, so very few games work,
this is the only freeware/commerical mahjong16 tile I found that works on my device
Thank you for your assistance
Related
Hi guys,
(I have searched for this and similar topics so my apologies if I'm duplicating)
Bought my Compact about a month ago with T-mobile UK and am only just opening my eyes to its possibilities!
Thanks for all the information on web n walk etc.... i'll be signing up tomorrow!
I have just been on pocketgear.com and have seen all the games a pocket PC can use..... so I downloaded a trial version of a poker game (as is fashionable these days it seems!), but once transferred to my phone it wouldn't work.
Got the error message '[game] is not a valid pocket PC application'
So I tried Bookworm... and got the same message.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it because I downloaded it from an American Website to an English phone?
Any (and I do mean any) help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I haven't tweaked my phone in any way or improved it at all, so any further hints and tips would be appreciated too!
Cheers
J
When you DL software for your device, make sure that you DL software that is designed for your device. If you DL Pocket PC 2003 Software, and you are using a Windows Mobile 5.0 device, the software may NOT work on your device - also, if you are using a older device, you need to be aware that some software is designed for certain types of processors - so if you are using a PDA with an ARM processor, you have to DL software that will run on an ARM processor - not software that is designed for a MIPS processor. The newest devices all use the same processor (as far as I know) - but if you DL older software to run on the newer device, you will have to use software that was originally designed for anARM procesor. This may seem a little complicated, but the best way to find out how this works, is to go to a software distro site (like Handango), and download the different versions of the same software, and then install them. Hope that helps!
Black-wolf
Well, I think it is just plain bad luck. I've downloaded and install.. quite a large amount of software/games to test on my MDACompact2 and most of the software that said to be meant for WinCE, WM2003, SE, etc works well with WM5. I can say, in my experience, the chances of getting one not working in WM5 is like. 20% or less. So, keep trying
Hi onemanfloats!
Did you download an exe file an copied it directly to the device?
If the download is an exe that means it is an installer and needs to be run on you PC while the device is synchronized. Most PPC programs are distributed this way.
Also programs for PPC some times come as cab files. Those you have to copy to your device and tap on them in the explorer so they will install.
As for processor type - don't worry, all devices sold today come with ARM, or ARM compatible (like OMAP) processors, and most of the new software supports only that type.
As for OS, I'm not sure if your device is running Windows Mobile 5 or Windows Mobile 2003, but as far as games and ordinary programs go, if it works on 2003 it usually works on 5 (2005).
The only problem is with some utilities which are very OS dependent.
Finally let me recommend you this site:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com
Tons of free stuff for you device.
Good luck.
ms should make pda's error msg
tell the user that it's a pc application they are trying to
run on the pda
tons of ppl get confused but this
The "not designed for" message on WM2003 only meant that the application perhaps didn't support screen rotation, and other resolutions than 240x320
It's a bit off topic, but the warning "This program may not display correctly..." pops up on every program whose installation cab supports OS lower the 4.21 (that's WM 2003se in plain English ).
According to MSDN that's because the OS assumes the program inside can't support VGA, screen rotation and square.
It's pretty stupid design since a lot of programs try to be backwards compatible, at least to WM 2003, and the message just scares users.
It's a good thing they got rid of it in WM5.
cheers guys,
just got back from a tiring weekend in snowdon and read your replies.
Will digest in the morning and see what I can do!
Thanks again for your help!
I'm pissed. I ordered the Celluon Laserkey CL800BT as a mobile keyboard. But it appears it still has not had drivers/installation software created for WM 5. Nowhere on the seller's website did it mention this very critical piece of information. The Celluon website utterly fails to even mention the existence of WM 5 as something they either support or don't support, it's like they're stuck in 2003.
So, the question is... Is it possible to get this thing working on WM 5? I'm not sure if the input panel changes from 2003 to 5 are so big that the drivers supplied won't work or if it might be possible to just fiddle with the registry keys enough to get it to use the 2003 drivers. I figured out that certain registry structure changes were made in how the input software gets listed and so I tried to "upgrade" the entry for the Laserkey and that got the "Projection Keyboard" appearing in the list, but when I select it it just switches to the built-in WM keyboard input.
So, please, all you super clever people, help!!!
Quincy
Wow, that's a neat product. Thing is there is no difference in software keyboards between WM 5 and 2003 but what you have is a hardware keyboard that connects via BT.
If the drivers don't work it means they don't support your devices hardware or BT stack.
Unfortunately short of writing new drivers i do not see a solution to this.
I assume you tried installing it using the WM 2003 setup?
If it doesn't work i think you should ask for your money back.
Thanks, yeah, I tried the install for PPC 2003 and that completes, but as I mentioned the "Projection Keyboard" option in the SIP list does NOT appear. So I figured how what registry tweaking would make it appear but selecting it doesn't work. I changed the registry to point to the DLL I presumed should be called (there were only 2 that came with it, and I tried both) but nothing. I assume the SIP hooks into the DLL/etc. have changed from 2003 to 5.
It is an amazing product, if only it worked. Celluon must be in bad shape or something for them not to have current drivers (I contacted their tech support and have not heard back yet...). There are few things more annoying than having in your hands something that is amazingly cool and having absolutely no ability to use it.
I talked to the seller and it looks like they'll take it back, but I'm stunned they wouldn't have a big warning or at least a little warning/mention of the fact that it won't work on the current PPC OS.
So, warning to all, don't buy the Celluon Laserkey if you've got WM 5!
Quincy
One thing I just thought of, probably should have mentioned it before (this is really stupid of me):
Maybe the DLL you are messing with is not a SIP DLL at all? This is a hardware keyboard and it should work no matter what software keyboard is selected.
So try to do a clean installation (so your registry tweaks won't get in the way) and just open Word for example and type.
Also maybe it needs parring or some special BT settings?
Good suggestion, Levenum. I don't know exactly it is supposed to work, but I do know that you use the SIP selector to choose the "Projection Keyboard" and then it takes input from the keyboard. So, I'm pretty sure it really does act as a SIP. I've tried re-installing a few times, along the lines you suggest, having cleared everything out but still no luck.
I guess I'll wait another couple days and ship it back. I've written several times to Celluon but have yet to hear anything.
Quincy
Hmm, if they have written it this way (its possible of course) it would be a very stupid approach.
I had a chance to use a couple of hardware keyboards and they usually work separately from the SIP system be it BT or IR keyboard.
Strange that company creating a product primarily for mobile devices seems to know so little about them.
I too have the same problem with my IPAQ hx2490b running WM5.
I have found this web site which hosts a Celluon Laserkey driver for WM5 which installs OK without any registry changes.
The problem is that when the Projection Keyboard is seleted from the Input list and from the keyboard icon, I get a message to say BTM Cannot get current state. If I exit from the driver screen, I then get an error to say that the serial port is in use by another device which should be stopped before trying to use the Projection Keyboard again.
I have removed all of my other BT pairings, done a hard reset and started from scratch to no avail.
The CL800BT pairs OK until I load the driver. If anyone has any ideas for a workaround or has had success in getting this keyboard to work under WM5 I would be grateful for your advice.
I have emailed Celluon but have had no reply. The UK distributor has been trying to sort this for me for a week with no success.
IPAQ hx2490b
ROM 1.02.h
OS 5.1.1702 (Build 14366.1.0.1)
http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/
Laserkey and hp2490
Thanks for the info guys I found the web site and installed the 2005 drivers but as I expected I have the same problemb< ihave tried Celluon (waste of time never reply)
Looks like my new toy will have to go back unless anyone finds the answer
sucessfull test
Dear all,
there is a WM5-driver on the plawa page aviable -
and it's working as well on WM6 (testet with Hermes)!
okay, that's not a surprise - but the german shortcuts
are working as well!
can I have a link to the plawa page you refer to? I want to use it on wm6 too.
thanks
is there any hope that we can upgrade the ultimate 9502 to wm6.1 soon ????????
There is another thread on this a little further down, but so far i-Mate support is telling some people yes, and some people no - so I'm not sure.
so y cant some1 cook wm6.1 for imate 9502?
6.1 soon?
Signs of activity, or just wishful thinking?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/57sshv
Well we are trying to develop rom for imate 9502 but we are not getting enough support from the community. Check out the link in my signature and help the community in whatever way possible, so that we can build a working rom for the device.
This turned up in the Imate forums today. If anyone can translate from Polish it'd be great.
UniCom (Polish i-mate distributor) informed that i-mate confirmed OS update to WM 6.1 for 9502 and 8502.
The exact date will be announced soon.
Source:
http://www.gsmonline.pl/portal/news...M,Professional,6.1,w,smartfonach,marki,i-mate
Edit: Same link as above. Sorry.
samy.3660 said:
Well we are trying to develop rom for imate 9502 but we are not getting enough support from the community. Check out the link in my signature and help the community in whatever way possible, so that we can build a working rom for the device.
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Hmmm. Perhaps that's because you've set up shop outside of the community? 9502 users are thin on the ground as it is, so why fragment that user base further by trying to divert them off to a lightly used forum? There's a wide audience of ROM experts here at xda-dev, so wouldn't it be more productive to share your ideas here? I have enough forums to check everyday as it is, so I don't really need another one with limited content and only a handful of users.
OK, the 9502 hasn't got its own section on xda-dev (and isn't likely to). But neither has the i780, and that hasn't stopped very successful collaboration and development for that device right here at the home of ROM cooking.
Ineedtoys said:
Signs of activity, or just wishful thinking?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/57sshv
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Are we there yet?
Answer -NO STILL
So I personally doubt Imate will do it, I think its more likely they won't be around for long given the reports I read.
eg.
HTML:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7733.html
I think this is interesting!
"Sales for the six-month ended of September are estimated at $20.6 Million compared to $46.2 Million for the same time last year. This resulted in an estimated operating loss of $10.8 Million loss compared to $29.4 Million loss for the same time last year. Our cash position is at $11.2 Million and stock at $9.1 Million with debtors of $3.9 Million and creditors of $2.6 Million."
If I am reading this right it sounds like a good thing sales are about half because now the losses are only about 1/3. To me it's obvious why they are delisting and the customer support is legendary for all the wrong reasons.
Looks like we need to make our own ROM if my 9502 will work like its supposed to.
calibration code !
Originally Posted by corollatercel View Post
So i've been having problems with the screen alignment on mine since i had one spot on my MDA screen that was dead and my screen was cracked so the alignment wizard basically got stuck in limbo when I tried to calibrate it. SO basically what I had to do was download PHM Registry Editor and change the registry key touch referenced in here.
Afterwards I used the remote alignment tool (attached) to retrieve the correct settings from the correctly aligned mda(after changing the registry key then rebooting the device) then made sure the file was saved on my pc....normally it's saved by default in the C:\Program Files\Code Factory\Remote Screen Alignment directory. The file was called WIZA200.dat. I did a soft reset then when the alignment screen came up I did the skip function in the remote screen alignment application and it automatically read the proper calibration from the wiza200.dat file and then properly calibrated my mda now my screen is properly calibrated even though i never ran the alignment wizard.
So here are the Instructions folks:
1. Download the latest activesync and connect your mda to your computer and verify your device is connected(not as guest)
2. Perform a soft/hard reset on your MDA then tap your screen to start the screen alignment wizard
3. Download the remote screen alignment tool attached and install it on your machine.
4. Download the wiza200.txt file attached and rename it to WIZA200.dat then put it in the C:\Program Files\Code Factory\Remote Screen Alignment directory on your computer
5. Ensure your MDA is connected to your pc(A green activesync Icon usually indicates a connection )
6. Open the remote screen alignment tool on your pc meanwhile your phone be displaying the alignment screen wizard.
7. Click SKIP in the screen alignment tool.
Assuming everything went fine a message box displaying "The operation has been completed successfully. Your device will be restarted." should pop up on your computer and your device should restart. Afterwards your phone will run the files it always does when you do a soft/hard reset then you touch screen should be properly calibrated and work fine.
​thanks in adv !
I fixed my problem doing a Hard Reset and uninstalling the Palm Translator software pt-BR. So, I'm still using 6.1 and I'm very happy with it.
Guys,
I'm in desperate mode on. It has been two days I updated my treo 750 to wm. 6.1 ( Treo750_OS5_2_19199WWE_STD). Everything went just fine. The system is nice and all. A little bit faster than the old 6.0.
But then the nightmare started: My "Notes" and "Task Manager" are there but don't work! I put Network frame 3.5... but nothing happened.
These are the two app I most use! I know there is a lot of other apps but I wanna use these ones that came with the wm.
I have two choices: downgrade to wm 6.0 or fix this issues. I've been without sleep for two days 'cause every procedure I try to downgrade fails! I tried this one ( Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater) but it says "you already have a newer version installed". And yes, I tried changing the payloads archive.
I tried Cheetah Unlocker, SD card method but nothing happens, just the three color screen saying serial or usb. It also says:
CHEE100
IPL-0.20
CHEE100
SPL-1.40.OliNex
The info about my phone is:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (the start screen says 6.1 Professional)
CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0)
Software Version: TREO750-2.27-RWE
Firmware version: 1.12.0c.00
CC-CAP: GEN-ENG-010
I also tried T750URT but it does nothing but getting my firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
I took the 6.0 rom from here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335402
Are them really 6.0? I took the "Generic Rest-of-world - English"
Please guys help me. I've been searching over here and other forums and I just can't make it work. I chose this forum to subscribe and post 'cause it looks like the more expert. What am I doing wrong? I got this phone last weekend and I'm pretty new to this HTC world. My first smartphone! I live in Brazil and everything, even my 3G connection was working on the 6.0. This device came from USA 1 year ago and the last owner (my friend) just put the portuguese-br translator and used it.
I think I'm not forgetting any information. Thanks in advance. Going to try to sleep.
Peterson
I'm using the same rom and the two app. work fine.
After search in the internet I found this link for rom 6.0
http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/1336491
but first check what is wrong with the 6.1 rom ...
One more thing - there are softwares that you can download and do the same job even better...( replace "Notes" and "Task Manager")...
one more link for rom 6
http://rapidshare.com/files/173145556/Treo750_2.23_ROW_WM6.rar
My 6.1 ROM is working superbly, +some registry edits to speed it up even more! It's more likely, that something went wrong in the flashing process. Just try again the same 6.1...
Thanks!
Thank you all for your words. You won't believe what happened.
@libal
This morning I was in classroom and I had a crazy idea. I pressed the red button (to end calls) and reset at the same time and erased all the data. Guess what? Everything is working fine! But I sure remember about doing this same reset stuff after upgrading. Anyway, I didn't put the translator to PT-BR yet. I'll try now and if anything goes wrong, I'll just reset it again and leave in English. English wouldn't be a problem to me as you see. I'm thinking about my wife (she's still learning English).
I wanna thank you both 'cause I just gave it a try after reading that you were not having problems with the same phone. Thanks for your time and patience.
@otoinsa
Is this safe? I mean, editing registries to get a faster wm? Can you tell me which mods or just point the link about what you did? Thanks again.
By editing the registry you can customize a lot of stuff (for me replacing left soft key's permanent "e-mail" to SMS was a must. Now under "SMS" I have a submenu containing "e-mail" AND "messaging"), also disable a lot of useless windows mobile features, or enable (power management - longer lasting battery).
To some extent it's completely harmless, just try to avoid experimenting with it too much! There are a lot of instructions on the web, most common keywords used for search are "windows mobile registry hacks" or "pocket pc registry edits". It's best to add the version number (WM 6.1 for example) when searching. Also don't confuse your Treo 750 with Windows Mobile Smartphones - they don't have a touchscreen and those run a different type of Windows Mobile. It's almost the same, however there are some differences...
Most of the older WM regedits will work on 6.1. Also Treo has some Palm-specific registers. Just for starters, here's a link:
http://pocketnow.com/wiki/Windows_Mobile_6.1_Registry_Edits#Power
Wish you luck and hope you'll help to keep the 750 alive in this forum! Post your success afterwards.
I found it!
I found the problem. After doing all the customization and testing all the apps, I installed the translator Pt-BR from Palm's site. Guess what? All the apps I mentioned before stopped working. I did the uninstall process and guess what again? Everything was in English again and most important: working!
So this is the trick: don't use Palm Translator (at least pt-BR) if you are using a non-official wm6.1 rom.
The guy who sold me this Treo has the Treo Pro 850 now. Such a nice device, but 750 was my first pocket pc and I won't forget about that.
Gotta change the post title to resolved lol. But don't lock it yet. Maybe someone else may has a experience to share with us.
Peterson
hi guys - nice site!
I just have a few comments and questions and maybe a tip for who ever are interested.............
I bought a htc x7500 advantage lastweek.
this is my first htc or windows mobile device so some of the "negative" points could be something i could maybe just need to get used to over time.......
I already upgrade to spl1.2 and from there to 3.5 - not bad for a first try - all thanks to the directions and explanations from these forums!!!!
I am currently running ap 4.0 (spl 3.5) - so far this is the best one for my device. I tried wm6.5 but it is way too slow (any comments - maybe my device's processor can't handle it?)
I am used to symbian and are quite comfy with it regards to installing apps - self sighning etc.........
now......
(1) is there anyway to get garmin xt to work on this windows mobile thing?
I can install it - no problem - but I cannot get it to use the "build in" gps?
any body with ideas - on a symbian it is no problem
(2) x7500 build in gps SUX - or is it just me?!
(3) where can you get a PROPER alarm clock for this thing. a single beep is not
going to get my attention never mind waking me up! or is there a way I can
copy a mp3 file into the windows folder where i can then select it from the
settings tab on that little alarm icon. I tried to look for it (for example
windows\splat.wav but to no avail.....
(4) is there a proper call blocker or blacklist for this thing - one that blocks
private numbers and where you can just import the number from your
contacts or sim. I know on the symbian (nokia n97 to be preciese) there
is a thing called blacklist - it works very well but for windows mobile it
looks like it is not quite there yet
(5) field test display or net monitor for the x7500? I know for some HTCs
you type in *#*#364#*#* and it brings up the engineering function.
This is quite important to me as I am working as a field technition in the
cellular industry and use it almost every day
and that's it for now
awsome site with nice instructions - hope some will be able to help me with these 5 points - thanks and cheers