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So I want to do the new sw update but can't because I deleted some stock apps so the checksum wouldn't match and a hard reset won't restore them I guess so I would flash a stock rom but am I right thinking there isn't one yet? So how can I get to an original rom and then update or maybe make the new update work?
D2G stock rom
I don't know if the update will be compatible or not but from my understanding this is pretty much the stock rom that Motorola handed Verizon to put all their bloatware on then release the phone. I did load this rom on my d2g and it works flawlessly. Might be worth a try, not a direct link but will get you headed in the right direction. The rom manager gives you the opportunity to load the barebones stock google rom or the Vanilla based version, it just downloads and flashes, works perfect I didn't even have to re-activate. It is already pre-rooted so maybe the update won't work but I just wanted to make you aware of it. I work at verizon and did the update to the floor model and my dad's stock d2g also and didn't notice any difference really. I think vzw is just fixing some of the bugs that they created anyway so having the stock rom may end up with the same result, a rom that functions perfectly, good luck!.......droidforums.net/forum/droid-x-roms/106629-rom-fission-2-4-droidx-vanilla-generic-android-aosp-like-fission-rom-manager.html
@evil yeah im kind of in the same boat, let me know if srensber solution works for you.
I froze a bunch of apps with Titanium Backup and renamed some stuff with Root Explorer. I recently just re-named everything i changed back to the factory stuff (bak -> apk) but it still doesnt seem to do any good.
I did create a number of back ups using Rom manager but i cant seem to find out where they are located and how to restore them. hmm. Not sure what to do.
Ah i realize what ive done wrong ... i didnt know you had to have bootstrap installed along with clockwork recoveryy in order to make a backup hmm. Going to need a rom of stock d2g lol.
clockwork recovery installs a boot hijack, which might be the culpirt
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I don't know if the update will be compatible or not but from my understanding this is pretty much the stock rom that Motorola handed Verizon to put all their bloatware on then release the phone. I did load this rom on my d2g and it works flawlessly. Might be worth a try, not a direct link but will get you headed in the right direction. The rom manager gives you the opportunity to load the barebones stock google rom or the Vanilla based version, it just downloads and flashes, works perfect I didn't even have to re-activate. It is already pre-rooted so maybe the update won't work but I just wanted to make you aware of it. I work at verizon and did the update to the floor model and my dad's stock d2g also and didn't notice any difference really. I think vzw is just fixing some of the bugs that they created anyway so having the stock rom may end up with the same result, a rom that functions perfectly, good luck!.......droidforums.net/forum/droid-x-roms/106629-rom-fission-2-4-droidx-vanilla-generic-android-aosp-like-fission-rom-manager.html
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I cant seem to find the download link anywhere... and after you loaded this rom did you try to update to 2.4.3 ?
If anyone else has any input about this please help!
Hi All -
So I'm posing a somewhat esoteric question. If you were starting with a new Android device tomorrow, what would you do to it to make it your own?
Root? Unlock? New ROM? Must Have Apps?
Here is the reason for my question. I am ABOUT to be the proud new owner of a Nexus S that should arrive tomorrow. I'm completely new to Android, but am a self proclaimed computer geek and have been an iPhone user since their inception and I just want a new challenge.
I'm on AT&T in the US and bought the i9020A. From what I have read, I will want to get the 2.3.4 update that is now available, and will also want to flash the radio to KB3 to get uncapped data speeds on Ma'Bell...
But what else??
I am pretty much in the same situation.
Bought the NS last Saturday but still far from home (and so having time to evaluate whether to root or not).
Meanwhile you can easily update to 2.3.4 going to the proper menu.
If you are new to Android it might be a good idea to just use it as is for a while. Get used to how everything works and where everything is.
Once you have a good understanding of how to use the OS you can then venture out and flash custom roms and since you've used stock Android you'll be able to spot the changes people have made and appreciate the new functionalities more.
If you are coming from iPhone a lot of the things that you can do only with jail breaking can be done out of the box on Android. You can customise your phone a lot without rooting or flashing a custom rom. One example which comes to mind is the transitions between home screens. On Android switching to any of the popular homescreen replacements (LauncherPro or ADW) will allow you to have many different transition styles.
When using Android you just have to keep in mind that practically everything is customisable. If you really want to you can change individual graphics in the OS. Anyway, congratulations on your new purchase, I do hope you enjoy it and welcome to Android!
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Hi All -
So I'm posing a somewhat esoteric question. If you were starting with a new Android device tomorrow, what would you do to it to make it your own?
Root? Unlock? New ROM? Must Have Apps?
Here is the reason for my question. I am ABOUT to be the proud new owner of a Nexus S that should arrive tomorrow. I'm completely new to Android, but am a self proclaimed computer geek and have been an iPhone user since their inception and I just want a new challenge.
I'm on AT&T in the US and bought the i9020A. From what I have read, I will want to get the 2.3.4 update that is now available, and will also want to flash the radio to KB3 to get uncapped data speeds on Ma'Bell...
But what else??
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I was in you shoes a few months ago, Nexus S was my first ever android device, i was on stock for 2 days then flash cyanogenmod.
In short, do everything you said xD. The differences between custom and stock ROMS are HUGE, especially in Cyanogen Mod
I would update to the latest official Nexus S firmware first (to get the latest radio, etc): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056062
Then unlock the bootloader, flash latest cwm recovery, nandroid backup, flash the latest CM7 nightly, flash latest gapps, then reboot.
Enjoy your new Nexus S with CyanogenMOD 7.
All this can be done without fully booting up your Nexus S.
PS: (KB3 is not the latest radio, KD1 is)
I'm just going to say that I was on stock unrooted Android 2.2 HTC Evo for 4 months before I ever rooted and flashed Cyanogenmod 6. And I'm really glad I had that time. I appreciated the customizations so much, and really understood why they were a big deal.
I've moved to the Nexus now and had it for a month. I'm back to stock for a while and loving it. Not sure if I will root or flash CM again. Its just not as necessary in the Nexus. Its possible to have a great Android experience without it. Not so true on other phones.
Anyways, I agree that you should run stock for a while until you are feeling really comfortable with all the nuances of the OS.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
If you want to the rooted/custom rom route straight away might I suggest you give miui a go. It is quite possibly one of the most customised and visually polished Android roms available.
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Hi All -
So I'm posing a somewhat esoteric question. If you were starting with a new Android device tomorrow, what would you do to it to make it your own?
Root? Unlock? New ROM? Must Have Apps?
Here is the reason for my question. I am ABOUT to be the proud new owner of a Nexus S that should arrive tomorrow. I'm completely new to Android, but am a self proclaimed computer geek and have been an iPhone user since their inception and I just want a new challenge.
I'm on AT&T in the US and bought the i9020A. From what I have read, I will want to get the 2.3.4 update that is now available, and will also want to flash the radio to KB3 to get uncapped data speeds on Ma'Bell...
But what else??
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The phone stock is very nice, so you might not have to jump into flashing ROMS ATM. Rooting though gives you alot of options. One being is for titanium backup.
Best backup app on the market IMHO. Android at default lacks a way to backup app data. Say u drop your phone get a replacement and now all the angry birds levels you beat are gone.
nxt said:
I would update to the latest official Nexus S firmware first (to get the latest radio, etc): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056062
Then unlock the bootloader, flash latest cwm recovery, nandroid backup, flash the latest CM7 nightly, flash latest gapps, then reboot.
Enjoy your new Nexus S with CyanogenMOD 7.
All this can be done without fully booting up your Nexus S.
PS: (KB3 is not the latest radio, KD1 is)
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Hey - Thanks for the info!! You mention that KD1 is the latest radio, but I've read that KD1 still suffers from the speed capping issues and that KB3 is the radio to use if you want full speed 3G connections over AT&Ts cell network.
BrianDigital said:
The phone stock is very nice, so you might not have to jump into flashing ROMS ATM. Rooting though gives you alot of options. One being is for titanium backup.
Best backup app on the market IMHO. Android at default lacks a way to backup app data. Say u drop your phone get a replacement and now all the angry birds levels you beat are gone.
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Thanks for the feedback - is it your contention that Titanium Backup is better than some of the other backup methodologies ... i.e. Nandroid?
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Thanks for the feedback - is it your contention that Titanium Backup is better than some of the other backup methodologies ... i.e. Nandroid?
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Titanium Backup is the best for backing up all your apps and system settings, nothing compares ie. installs busybox for you, can sync to dropbox and etc. Look for your self its saved me plenty of time and reconfiguring a lot. But you need to be carefully with it if going from Stock ROM to Custom. As for a nandroid backup, that is a backup of your entire ROM from the phone. Its a function in Clockwork Recovery.
Where is my 2.3.4?!
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Meanwhile you can easily update to 2.3.4 going to the proper menu.
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I feel like I'm missing out on a secret menu, my nexus has yet to update! Not sure why.. I thought it was due to my carrier. But if the NS is pure google experience that shouldn't impede my update. N1 users have their update! Where is mine!
Flash SuperAosp! Such a tasty rom.. Makes my phone feel so satisfyingly fast
Thanks everyone for the suggestions!!
Here's what I decided to do...
I got my phone, immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted (installed Clockwork Recovery).
Once rooted, I installed the KB3 radio (immediately see speed improvements - went from .51Mbps Down, and .14Mbps Up to 2.10Mbps Down and 1.12 Mbps up - equivalent if not better than what I was getting on my iPhone).
I think I'll take the majority of the advice I got on here and stick with the stock ROM for now - that's why we bought Vanilla Google, right? I'll play with that for a while and get familiar then go for a custom ROM.
Thanks again everybody...you guys were really helpful and welcoming to an Android N00b!!
hey guys. Long story short, i had my first captivate for almost more than a year, rooted it and had all the fun with it. Then, the screen cracked, i used my insurance and got a new captivate. But, after 3 months of being super busy... I figured id rather just send the new (unrooted, uncracked) captivate back, get my refund, and go back to using my old captivate, that is already rooted has all my contacts and so on. Now....as i said its been quite a while, so i am definitely rusty. First question is that i remember that since i was rooted i was able to download apk files and install them onto my phone when it waas plugged into my pc. I definitely remember using a program and having to restart the phone and apply changes or something like that. But, i don't remember the name of the program nor how i am actually suppose to do it. Also if someone can point me in the right direction and tell me what update and what not i am supposed to be on. My captivate is just rooted with a lag fix i believe. Yet, its still really slow and laggy, even overclocked... So im hoping that the new updates will be more efficient; in being fast without taking up all my battery. in my "about phone" it reads:
firmware: 2.1 update 1
kernel version 2.6.29
[email protected]#voodoo_lagfix_3.0_v1.10
Build number: ECLAIR
sorry for being so ignorant. Its just that it has been a while, and i don't want to start off my current rooting experience on the wrong foot.
are you referring to "quickboot" for easy rebooting? you may also want to look into Autokiller memory to help kill the junk. I also used ryan's OCLF.
I like you ran a rooted captivate for the longest time. it worked decently but then I tried to go to Gingerbread. MISTAKE. it was laggy bad and very unstable (Used Cezar's ROM). I didnt like it. Flashed back to the 2.2 rom (supposedly stock) and it was terrible compared to how it was. lots of lag and just overall... YUCK.
so yesterday I got the guts to flash a custom rom. I was mad at the phone so I flipped thru several flavors and ended up putting the Phoenix Ultimate (JS7) on it. HOLY S**t Balls mom!!! it was super fast, extremely responsive and worked like a dream. took me a little while to do it, (I had to flash to 2.1 (you are there), root it, cyanogenmod, then Phoenix) but it is SOOOO worth it. super fast now. my wife is asking me to do hers...ugh...
also, all the animations, graphics and just in general. it feels like I got a brand new phone. I could not be happier
thanks for the reply. Haha sounds like you have an iphone status phone now that's what im shooting for; something fast and reliable. Im going to wait and see what the majority of people like on they're captivates. So i am waiting on standby until i know exactly what and how to do it. And no, the program i believe was only on my computer. i would plug in my phone, drop in the apk file.,remove the phone, and do that recovery mode reboot thing on my phone so that the application i just dropped in installs. Sorry if what im saying doesn't make sense like I've said its been a while -.-
the program you are thinking of is the sideload wonder machine
and yes you are on a very outdated version of android, 2.1 (eclair) there has been an official update to 2.2 (froyo) and also many leaks of 2.3.x(gingerbread) but nothing officially from at&t since froyo.
noone can really tell you what you will like best, you will have to do what the rest of us do and read, read, read, then read a bit more, flash a few to try and pick what you like the best....
thank you! it was SWM.
NOW
what is MIUI, cm7 and pinnacle? custom flashes or something? i am also running my current root with launcher pro. Most of everyone on this thread seem happy with their setup as far as smoothness,responsiveness, and battery life go, which is exactly what i want!
MIUI/CM7 are AOSP versions if 2.3.x,aka gingerbread. Pinnacle is a leaked version of Gingerbread, made for the captivate by Samsung.
so gingerbread is the way to go? or rather should i say 2.3.. how hard is it for me to upgrade to 2.3 i noticed that some apps aren't even available to me in the market on 2.1. but still i want the features that 2.3 has. Besides just updating to a version of gingerbread, what are the other common things people do for anti-lag/responsiveness, while still being conservative on the battery aspect.Thanks for all the help so far guys!!!
I wasn't pleased with the gingerbread as of yet. It will get better I'm sure of it. Try out one of the 2.2 based roms as they are the most stable at this point.
Sent from my Phoenix JS7 run Samsung Captivate
so what do i do? Just get one of the 2.2's that a developer on here made? that way it has pre made fixes and stuff like lagfix already in it correct? how do i go about installing that and from where?
This thread is the best start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887525
after looking that over, I followed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
and had chosen the Phoenix ROM.
thannks but im still comopletly clueless. What exactly is it that i have to do. I know where to find the .zip rom files, but what is a kernel to a ROM? I really dont get it. does the ROM include the build like 2.2 or 2.3 or what not?
just out of curiosity, do you have AT&T captivate or rogers?
what is Rogers?
Yes. I have AT&T samsung captivate
Rogers is a rom version. You are on stock but rooted. The second link has very easy step by step instructions. The rom u get will have all u need including the kernel and modems
1. Back up ur data with titanium backup. If u don't have it, check market.
2. Flash ur phone with Odin
3. One the flash is done to stock do a master clear with Odin (your phone is on, plugged in and USB debugging)
4. Install the root per directions
5. Copy clockwork and the rom. Of ur choice to ur internal zip
6. Install the clockwork recovery (you run it twice back to back)
7. Run the new rom install with clockwork
I. Phone boots to new rom.
First time it takes about an hour. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE DIRCTIONS IN MY PREVIOUS POST.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
^^Rogers isn't a ROM version. It's a Canadian cell service provider...
thanks for clearing that up. Had no idea what Rogers was lol. Ok so, i guess i just download and install a ROM of my liking? that will also update me to froyo or 2.3 as well? any recommedations as for as ROMS go?
I stand corrected. The rom will upgrade you to what it is based on. The one I use is froyo based. There are gingerbread roms too. Mosaic seems to be a popular one as was Phoenix that I am running. Best advice.. go read those threads. Look at screenshots they have and the user feedback
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Personally, I'm a huge fan of DesignGears' roms. I'd suggest you go with something like Cognition 5v2. Its 2.3.3, very stable, very fast, and, since you've only used stocks rom up 'til now, it'll be very familiar (minus all the bloatware). He's also got a step by step guide on how to install the rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127578
i was trying to get to use that ROM^^ buuut i had to go to rooted 2.3 first. used this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249&page=31
then i hit a problem, i posted on that thread as well still waiting for a response. idk what happened to my phone...this is my post on that thread "ok so i did this and i hit a problem. I got up to the red fish, i turned off the phone to get it into download mode again. and i did, Placed the kernelKF1.tar file in the pda slot and hit start on odin my phone reboots and right after the AT&t logo my screen goes crazy. it looks as if my screen is tripping on acid... and it just keep looping att logo then that. What should i do? i need the files on my phone atleast its not completly bricked"
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Hi there, my friend is coming round soon and I was planning to give it a custom rom
Now, I've done this type of stuff before (on my nexus) I just want to see how you would do it for this samsung phone
Now, what recoveries can you get? I use 4EXT on mine
And, can anybody send me to a stable and up-to-date rom that can be used everyday and has nearly no issues? I need one without all the samsung stuff, just a normal default android one
And, how would I go by rooting the phone?
On mine, I used the zergrush exploit, does it work for this phone??
If you want one with everything working, then use the Froyo roms. CM7 is under development. The major bugs are bluetooth and youtube hq. Leaving that, even thats useable. It's even better than Froyo.
I suggest you to try either Kyorarom or Kyrillos v9.6. Both of them are froyo based, pre-rooted, and have other mods to make it even more faster than a stock one.
Happy flashing!
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If you want one with everything working, then use the Froyo roms. CM7 is under development. The major bugs are bluetooth and youtube hq. Leaving that, even thats useable. It's even better than Froyo.
I suggest you to try either Kyorarom or Kyrillos v9.6. Both of them are froyo based, pre-rooted, and have other mods to make it even more faster than a stock one.
Happy flashing!
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Thanks, and how do I go about flashing the rom, would I have to root it first?
No need.
This is something to good to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372414
BTW to root the phone use super one click root (or sth like that )
Ah, I get it now, thanks
Just one more question, does ODIN delete the phones data before installing the rom?
You have to wipe all your data after flashing(or not if from Froyo to Froyo)
I mean from recovery. ODIN don't delete user data
I exactly I don't know the working of odin, but after flashing you are directly taken to the recovery and advised to wipe data and factory reset.
Hi,
i have seen many people got problem after installing a new firmware or Rom.
Even though the next update might fix the error, but it feels annoying right?
So do you prefer to stay on stock rom or update if there is a new update?(not custom rom, official one.)
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
Sent from my rooted tomato using xda app
cascabel said:
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
Sent from my rooted tomato using xda app
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Thank you
But i afraid if i update and have a problem, and have to change back to previous rom it might affect my warranty, since i still have my phone's warranty i will not root and install custom rom, i afraid it might be affected even though it can still back to stock rom.
I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
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I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
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I did install a custom rom before to my previous rom and ever heard about getting warranty back by reinstall to stock rom, but i didn't have a chance to do it, so i am not really sure.
maya79 said:
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
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I had a LG before, and did try some custom rom. It was not so complicated.
But maybe other phone procedure might be a little different.
I've never left any of my Android phones alone ever. When I got my Motorola Droid (my first android OS phone) I rooted it a few hours after activation, a new ROM a few hours later while at work then put it all back to stock and got it replaced with a HTC Droid Incredible with the 30 day swap thing VZW does.
Flashing a custom ROM or staying stock is the whole reason XDA-Developers exists. Stock firmware are solid builds, but they are also very, very limited in what they allow you to do. I say allow because that is exactly what your carrier/manufacturer is doing with their firmware. With a custom ROM, you open the door to so many more possibilities, (ie tethering, mobile hotspot, Superuser access apps,...)
Now whether to stay on a stock FW or go custom, that is going to be up to you and what you want to get out of your device. My wife and I each have a phone and a tablet. All are Rooted. My Phone (Samsung Vibrant) is running a custom ROM by me, her phone (Motorola XT720) is running a custom ROM, her tablet (Nook Color) is running CyanogenMod 7.2, but my tablet (Asus Transformer) is running stock ROM but custom kernel.
Personally, I do not like Touchwiz from Samsung or Motoblur from Motorola, hate the bloat that both manufacturers put in there that I do not use. I also bought my wife a tablet that was Barnes&Noble branded android based FW, but I completley scrubbed it off and put a custom ROM on there for her. So now she has a full on tablet instead of a simple reader. See where I am going with this?
My tablet is fast, has all I need on it and since I am considered a power-user, I tinker with it but at this point I am satisfied with it as stock. Now, that is not to say that I have not altered it. I put a custom kernel on it and frozen some of the bloat that Asus provided. It came out with Honeycomb and then updated to ICS. Since I have had it on HC, it has seen 6 FW updates and every one of the ICS ROMs were terrible and left most users with a useless piece of machinery. Myself, I was able to keep it from de-evolving into that and have been happy with it ever since.
Hopefully this shows you that there are plenty of options for why to use a custom ROM but also to stick to stock firmware. It really just depends on you and what you want. Flashing is easy. Just read the OPs, search and read some more and above all, learn to make a Nandroid Backup.
Personally, I prefer to stay as close as possible to AOSP, with custom ROMs like Cyanogen. You don´t feel bounded by the locks imposed by the manufacturers or, even worse, the carriers.
In my experience, they are not as stable as stock ROMs (currently, I´m having some random reboots with cyanogen 9 in my Galaxy Note) so, if you don´t feel adventurous, stay stock.
Regards,