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[Q] Please Help! Important! Unrooting Question

hey guys,
bought my samsung captivate two days ago and i love it. from reading all the posts about how rooting is awesome i finally took the plunge and rooted my phone with the one click root program. followed the directions to the teeth, everything went fine. even went as far as downloading clockwork and backing up my rom.
few hours later, im totally blown that i rooted my phone. i realized i threw away my warranty.
is there ANY way to unroot the phone and make it totally stock and make it seem like the phone was never altered? i read some answers of "yeah" and some answers of "once your rooted, you can't get back" (i remember reading about an article about how some android phones like the nexus one, once you root theres no going back period). the program i used had a unroot button but im not sure if that would wipe everything away to factory settings and erase all traces of the root.
i know im effing stupid for not thinking it threw. but hey, its good that i came to my senses before i loaded up an os.
to be clear, my phone is just rooted. nothing else. im not running cognitive rom or anything. its running the stock samsung 2.1.
so can anyone PLEASE PLEASE help me solve this problem?
im a total noob when it comes to android.
it took me 20 minutes doing that one click from reading the directions over and over again lol.
i need some step by step directions for stupid people

okay, so i followed the directions to unroot. the programs that were installed when i rooted seemed to have disappear. to be extra sure, i reformatted my sd card and than factory restored the phone (from settings/privacy). quick question though, after i pressed "factory reset" my phone rebooted and than for a quick second i saw the same screen i saw when i rooted (the black screen with the yellow font? looked like a system command prompt i guess). it came on for a sec and than disappeared and it booted regularly. did that happen because i did a factory reset or did that happen because im still rooted?
wtf is wrong with me. i just want my unrooted captivate back (and my warranty lol)

odin to stock with master clear.

There's a thread under android development something with "stock rom" that should restore your phone back to factory.

If you did all of that then you are definitely back to stock now & theres no way of detecting your phone was rooted. You could of gotten away with just using one click to unroot. Thats all I did when I returned mine after a week because my gps never worked at all. I dont think they even did anything to check if it was rooted or anything. Hows your gps on the new one by the way? Mines still bad but at least it sees some satellites now. My old one had a hardware problem where gps wouldn't do anything at all.
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When you use odin to flash back to stock does that restore the AT&T bloatware as well? Or should I use TiB when I first get the phone to get the bloatware back on?
Thanks,
JOe K.

After trying to exchange my phone for another phone (thinking the GPS is a hardware issue) I had rooted and flashed a custom rom. I reverted back using ODIN master clear and ODIN 2.1 rom (Which puts bloatware and everything on it) and there's no way to detect it. The only time it will truly void your warranty (I believe) if you go into the store with a custom rom or if you go into the store with a bricked phone and they figure out you were modifying your phone.

thanks for the answers guys! why is it that you cant "unroot" a nexus one? i heard they'll always be able to tell if your rooted once you do it.

[Q] Doubts about unlocking bootloader and rooting

Hi guys,
I've been playing around with my Nexus S for about 3 weeks and I've decided to root it, but I have some question, I've been searching the answers in older posts but it's not quite clear yet, hope you can help me.
When I unlocked the bootloader, what kind of data will be wiped? It's just the SD card or also all the apps I've already downloaded? what about SMS, pictures and videos?
Is there anyway I can backup that data considering I haven't root it yet???
Thanks in advance.

dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
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lol what? its nobodys fault but your own. all the resources are available, just because somebody isnt responding to your threads and holding your hand to restore a nandriod backup doesnt make it a "lack of a community".. and your phone isn't bricked, it can be recovered but you are too close-minded and cant install Clockwork Recovery / get drivers working
The data that will be wiped are most likely your SMS/settings/etc. This is standard procedure. And its something you'll go through a lot when you are using custom ROMs.

There are complete instructions for rooting, unrooting and unbricking your phone. It's all here in the forums, and many other places, you just have to look and learn. I read for two weeks before I unlocked and loaded a ROM into my NS.
If you don't have a need to root your phone I wouldn't do it just because you can. I wanted to run the Voodoo app so I had to root and load a ROM. It took a little while but it was painless and I liked learning about the Android system.
You do have to backup your app and your SD, but that was the easy part.

It's close to impossible to brick a nexus device. They purposely come with totally open boot loaders specifically for that purpose!

RogerPodacter said:
It's close to impossible to brick a nexus device. They purposely come with totally open boot loaders specifically for that purpose!
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its not only Nexus devices but like I said people are using the term brick wrong. with these new phones coming out, a lot of them are hard to brick.
if you're phone is able to get into recovery/start/download mode (odin not popular but still an option)/bootloader then its not bricked.
if its unable to start in any form or way.. its considered a brick. please stop using the term in its wrong definition.
"brick" describes a device that cannot function in any capacity (such as a device with damaged firmware)
In the strictest sense of the term, bricking must imply that software error has rendered the device completely unrecoverable without some hardware replacement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_(electronics)
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I think guys you have lost focus about my question, it's not about how to root (there is a lot of info about), it's about what kind of data will be wiped and how to back it up
Netconn said:
You do have to backup your app and your SD, but that was the easy part.
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What's the best way to do it? It's there an app or I have to day it by myself?

Make a nandroid backup first and foremost! Use Titanium Backup to make a backup of all your apps. If you want a backup of your sms, go sms pro really does a great job of that. Dont forget your contacts as well! Then copy your sd card and place it on the hard drive of your computer. When you unlock the bootloader, it does wipe your sd card. Once your unlocked and rooted, you should be able to restore everything once you replace the copy of your sd card back on the phone. Coming over from a Vibrant, I was nervous about rooting the phone but its an easy process. Just take your time and do lots of reading! Hope this helps!

Thenx, but I still have one doubt, if I haven't root my phone yet, will nandroid or titanium work?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Woops..yeah, your right there. Too quick to reply. I followed this method here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
and had no problems. Once you get unlocked/rooted and clockwork recovery, then you can make the fore mentioned backups. Export your contacts to the sd card then copy the sd card to the hard drive of your computer before unlocking the boot loader. I do not think apps get affected during the sd wipe unless you have them stored there.

zephiK said:
its not only Nexus devices but like I said people are using the term brick wrong. with these new phones coming out, a lot of them are hard to brick.
if you're phone is able to get into recovery/start/download mode (odin not popular but still an option)/bootloader then its not bricked.
if its unable to start in any form or way.. its considered a brick. please stop using the term in its wrong definition.
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i followed the instructions to flash gri74 back to stock and my phone wont turn on, wont goto any mode, wont read that its hookedup to my pc
isnt that what we call a brick? ive had issues on a galaxy s with this game issue. htc devices i can fly through the root procedure but i got this 1 rooted, tried reflashing to stock and the phone wont turn on at all.
may i suggest a noob proof guide|? i postted 1 in the htc desire forum and people love it. yesterday i returned a moto xoom because ti was overheating , got a nexus s and 2day il b returning that because it wont turn on. can any1 help me think of a good idea i can tell the future shop return people?

kmhil said:
I think guys you have lost focus about my question, it's not about how to root (there is a lot of info about), it's about what kind of data will be wiped and how to back it up
What's the best way to do it? It's there an app or I have to day it by myself?
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you are forced to lose your data to initially root your device. then after that point, you can always create backups and never lose data again while you switch between ROMs and flashing etc. but i think to initially root, you have to lose everything. not the sd card though.

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
i followed the instructions to flash gri74 back to stock and my phone wont turn on, wont goto any mode, wont read that its hookedup to my pc
isnt that what we call a brick? ive had issues on a galaxy s with this game issue. htc devices i can fly through the root procedure but i got this 1 rooted, tried reflashing to stock and the phone wont turn on at all.
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Do keep in mind, we don't have an i9020 or an i9023, we have an i9020A So the instruction out there all need to take that into considerations. I rooted mine fine with no "Bricking" I had to follow the instruction for the i9023, but it worked. I figure it took me all of 1 minute to root my phone. Admitedly, the "One click root" for the Galaxy series was easier.
I try to make it a point to never be the "First" person to do something on their phone. Much safer that way.
I also find it very unusual that you've managed to brick two phones, I've also had the pleasure of owning the telus fascinate, and not once did i get it bricked, I tried Bionics, CM7, Darky's and a bunch of other ones. Just never mess with the boot loader. When you went back to stock, did you make sure it was a stock ROM for the I9020A?
Have you tried connecting the USB to a computer, holding the volume up (or in the case of the galaxy, both up and down) While powering on the device? I've had to use that a few times to recover my galaxy (Thank you odin!!).
Now in regards to the OP, I would recommend using a program like Ti to back everything up, unlock the bootloader then restore from Ti, it's a little more hassel, but you can pretty much keep your settings and data. Personally, i rooted my phone before configuring a single thing on it.

kmhil said:
Thenx, but I still have one doubt, if I haven't root my phone yet, will nandroid or titanium work?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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there is no way to make a good backup without rooting.
basically yes, you will lose all your settings
there are a few apps you can use to backup your apk before unlocing/rooting the phone.
look for App admin on market https://market.android.com/details?id=az.mecid.appadmin&feature=search_result
the stuff backed to SD does not get wiped
only the internal storage stuff

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
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i took about 12 minutes total to unlock my bootloader, flash clockwork, and flash a custom rom. its not difficult if you pay attention to what you read. youre phone is not bricked. btw, i read your threads. if you werent so demanding, i would have helped. use the pdanet website the next time you need to install the proper driver, and follow the directions that they give you.

When I unlocked I used Astro to back up my apps, I turned on the Google data sync to back up my contacts and I did a back up of my SD on my computer.
When the unlock and recovery was done NS asked for my Google account then it restored all my contacts, Astro restored all my apps and I restored my files from my computer. A few steps but not difficult at all.
You will have to redo your accounts and data, and maybe an app or two won't load but the market will show them installed, just reinstall any that didn't.
Make sure you follow the directions properly in the forum. I had to use two computers to get it to work, but it did work and nothing was damaged.
With all that said.... This was the first time I have ever owned or altered an Android phone. Sure I was nervous... Now I'm hooked.. haha
I wound up using NSCollab .17 so far so good..

First thing I did when I got my phone was fastboot oem unlock.
Even if you don't want to root, use another ROM. Fastboot unlock it so your data doesn't get wiped.
If your hardware and everything seems okay, then flash Clockwork Recovery and do a nandroid backup so you can restore to pre-flashing point if you need it for OEM purposes.
Afterwards, go crazy and flash like theres no tomorrow and find something that you'll like.
And agreed with simms. You've made so made so many threads about this. I would help you step by step but I've been busy so I can't do that anymore. But if you search, you'll find about two or three threads where I did help somebody get their phone to a working state.
The basic idea is... if your phone doesn't boot but you can get to recovery.
- Download a ROM or Nandroid backup
- Install USB drivers
- Fastboot oem unlock (if you haven't)
- fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (or whatever the recovery.img is named) should be in /sdk/tools
- reboot into recovery (adb reboot recovery)
- mount and storage: mount USB, put the nandroid backup or ROM onto phone
- nandroid restore or flash a ROM (wipe factory,dalvik,cache --> flash ROM (if its CM7.. flash gapps afterwards)
- reboot
your phone boots. alternatively, you can use Odin but thats not a popular method but the choice is available if you wish to go towards that approach

in the worse worse possible case scenario there is always ODIN to the rescue

Why did you guys wait at all?
Once i got the phone i immediately plugged it into my computer and rooted it.

Samsung Galaxy Exhilarate

I purchased a Galaxy Exhilarate last weekend. This phone was just released by AT&T a few days before that. After playing around with the phone, and doing some reading, I can admit, they've done a decent job. Of course, it comes with all the standard "bloat" that all the phones have, but it also has a few nice things too.
For one, reading using the Barnes & Noble Nook App is not bad, esp. since I own a Nook. To read the same books I'm reading on my nook, just tell the nook app the same account you use for your nook, and all your purchased content (including games) will be available. Of course, my Nook is hacked with Android, and I can do far more than just read books on it. Anyway, I'm off topic here.
After toying around with the phone, I decided it was time to delve deeper into it, and look at rooting it. I did a quick search, and, well, there's NOTHING out there on how to root it!
I also wasn't sure how to get into the Android Restore mode.
After looking into it, I figured it out on my own
1) Power down the phone
2) Push & hold both the UP and DOWN volume buttons and then push and hold the Power button.
3) "Samsung" will come up, and then disappear. AS SOON as it disappears, release all the buttons
The phone will now boot into the Android System Recovery mode.
As I'm just getting started, I'll post more when I get to that point!
To play around (if you just happen to own this phone), you should read the entire post. You can also go straight to my guide on how to root using a workaround I developed with Shaggypenquin and j3r3goss. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29566997
If you are an XDA Admin, would like to see this get it's own forum with the other Samsung phones! Thanks!

Rooting the Galaxy Exhilarate
Hello , I'm new to the forum , but I also purchased the Samsung Galaxy Exhilarate recently. I'm sad to say that although you SHOULD be able to "root the phone using a standard technique for Android 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 Gingerbread" , I cannot. I follow the procedure for rooting Androids 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 Gingerbread (using the attached file that you provided), and it gave me a message stating "E:failed to verify whole-file signature. (new line) E:signature verification failed". I'm a noob when it comes to Androids to know what this message means, however I'm hoping you can provide me with some much needed assistance
P.S. I've tried to research around, very thoroughly in my opinion, so this is a last resort of sorts haha
-Thank you in advance!

DaveeG: I too have run into the issue you are talking about. I haven't had time to try to figure out the workaround yet. Check back in early July... Maybe I'll figure something out, or someone else will, and they'll post here.
BlackWolf

Alright , thanks. Somebody help me pleasee ,

anyway you could do a system dump? If so, I could probably get a solution for everyone.

Excuse my ignorance , but what exactly do you mean by a system dump? sounds like a reset of some kind,

gicuenitro said:
anyway you could do a system dump? If so, I could probably get a solution for everyone.
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gicuenitro: I'll see if I can get one done. It may be a few days. Next week I start vacation, so I plan to spend a day just messing around w/ this.

You cant apply unofficial updates through the stock recovery as it will check to see if it is signed by samsung. Either patch the recovery or find another way to root.
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It would be alot easier to get around the e-signature if CWM Recovery Was Flashed to the phone. I will be looking for the CWM Recovery Version That will best suit this situation. I used CWM Recovery to flash Custom ROMS to my SGH-i717 (AT&T Galaxy Note) As Soon as i Find that version I will post it. be patient Rome wasnt built in a day and i would hate for your phone to become one expensive paper weight lol:good:

androiddeveloper89 said:
It would be alot easier to get around the e-signature if CWM Recovery Was Flashed to the phone. I will be looking for the CWM Recovery Version That will best suit this situation. I used CWM Recovery to flash Custom ROMS to my SGH-i717 (AT&T Galaxy Note) As Soon as i Find that version I will post it. be patient Rome wasnt built in a day and i would hate for your phone to become one expensive paper weight lol:good:
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I have used CWM before. I look forward to your solution. I think the Exhilarate is similar to another AT&T phone that may already be rooted, but I don't know if one phone's hack/root will apply to another, similar phone.
Anyone else have any suggestions?

Made several unsuccessful attempts to root this device with SuperOneClick v2.3.3 and DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT for Skyrocket (i727). On a side note, rebooting restores all uninstalled at&t bloatware.

I got one of these by chance and was wondering if anyone has tried Odin to push cwm? Has anyone found anything on this? I can help....just need to know where to start.
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Flash a kernel with a patched recovery then install the su files from the recovery.
That's how antsm did it for the galaxy ace 2, try give him a message and see if he'll whip up a quick kernel for you. I would give it a go but I don't have a Linux machine right now. Remember to ask him politely though.
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da9b16
I haven't tried yet. This is my first Sammy phone so I've just been reading rooting guides for similar phones.
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If someone could get a system dump I would greatly appreciate it. I somehow manage to screw up the stock recovery and now my capacitive buttons only respond once or twice after booting and then they appear to lock up. Attempted to do a full restore through Kies with no success. Chatted with samsung and they say at this time there is no way to do a full reinstall.

Still unable to root/sysdump
Ok, been trying to get root access and/or do a system dump on the phone.
So far, no luck.
However, I have been able to get the phone to dump its system properties...
Here they are (hopefully, this can be used as a start?):
<Rest of post deleted here due to size/length of post (and not needed)>
I used the ADB to get shell access to the phone. When I type the command "su dd if=/dev/block/stl6 of=/sdcard/factoryfs.rfs" I get "su: permission denied".
So, assuming "su" is superuser, how do I get that if my phone isn't rooted???
Thanks for any help you can give.
V/R
BlackWolf

ODIN Mode
da9b16 said:
I got one of these by chance and was wondering if anyone has tried Odin to push cwm? Has anyone found anything on this? I can help....just need to know where to start.
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Ok, I've got my phone to boot into "ODIN Mode". I downloaded ODIN3 1.85. I've opened it up. Not sure I want to push something to the phone just yet (sure as hell don't want to brick it). ...
Suggestions...?

Black-wolf said:
Ok, I've got my phone to boot into "ODIN Mode". I downloaded ODIN3 1.85. I've opened it up. Not sure I want to push something to the phone just yet (sure as hell don't want to brick it). ...
Suggestions...?
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I pushed the skyrocket cwm and my phone did not like it. I think cwm is actually trying to come up but it's ugly and not usable. The phone still boots but the capacitive buttons are locking up. I have since pushed the s3 stock att recovery and the s3 cwm with no success. I'm using my htc aria because the phone is mostly useless without the buttons. I'm up to custom binary flash count 3 now. I will probably get a chance to play more this weekend but i just started a 5 wk probability and statistics class and a history class that are eating all my time during the week.
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Almost there... maybe... I think...
j3r3goss said:
I pushed the skyrocket cwm and my phone did not like it. I think cwm is actually trying to come up but it's ugly and not usable. The phone still boots but the capacitive buttons are locking up. I have since pushed the s3 stock att recovery and the s3 cwm with no success. I'm using my htc aria because the phone is mostly useless without the buttons. I'm up to custom binary flash count 3 now. I will probably get a chance to play more this weekend but i just started a 5 wk probability and statistics class and a history class that are eating all my time during the week.
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I think you may have gone the wrong way about this - however, I am working on a manual root for the phone - and I think I may have something soon!
If/when I get rooted, I'll make sure I post the original img so you can at least recover your phone back to stock.
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BlackWolf

I was originally trying to root to be able to install cwn through rom manager, but since that didn'tr work I was trying to push CWM thru Odin so I could do a a nadroid and then try to flash superuser and busybox through cwm. I admit I don't know much about it.This is only my second android phone and the first time I've had a backup if I mess something up

[Q] Best way to recover from soft brick..?

Hi all...
OK, so I've rooted and ROMed a few phones in the past, and I generally know what I'm doing. However, I think I may have gotten a little bit overconfident this time and not done enough research...
I had a friend give me one of these phones and I decided that before making it my daily driver, I was going to install CM11. The phone was given to me unrooted with the stock 4.3 ROM. So, I found a guide to root the 4.3 version of the phone w/o triggering the warranty killbit, and that all went well. Once rooted, I decided to use Clockwork ROM Manager to throw CM11 on it. I installed CM and, without giving it a second thought, told it to flash the latest CM recovery (apparently my root method had come with TWRP). When I rebooted, I expected to see the nice recovery screen I was used to, but instead I was informed that I needed to take my phone to the nearest Verizon store and have them restore it (no thanks). I can, however, still get in to the Odin downloader, but this is uncharted territory for me. Assuming everything is OK with my firmware, what is the best/fastest way to recover from this point? I think I understand how Odin works, but I don't know much about it. Can I use Odin to flash the latest TWRP and fix it that way? Would it be better to try and flash completely back to stock and start over? If I'm forced to use Odin anyway, can I just flash CM11 from there? I have no idea what to do...
I would greatly appreciate any guidance anyone of you ROM wizards is willing to part with...

Fix with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
Then read all of this, no AOSP on 4.3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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SM-G310R5=SM-G310HN=Galaxy Ace3?

I'm new to phones
I got a greatcall jitterbug3 that is an overlaid bloated mess but otherwise a cool little phone. Its drawback is that Samsung and greatcall must have made some kind of deal and only put JellyBean in it.
From what I can figure out the SM-G310HN is the international version of the same phone: it runs kitkat.
I have emailed Samsung and GreatCall and basically they don't give a hoot.
I just got this phone new last Oct.
I would like to put a custom rom in it but I can't unlock the bootloader I've tried a bunch of command line but the best I've gotten is "unauthorized"
So
What if I got the stock rom (I did) for the 310hn which is kitkat
Can I flash a stock rom using odin without the bootloader being unlocked?
I know I might brick it I'm asking if this is a possibility before doing something stupid.
What I'd really like would be to go with custom but that seems impossible.
This is so much more difficult than working on windows where I could always wipe the disk and start over, LOL
I've been puttering with this for two months and thankfully it still works and I do believe I was able to capture a nandroid backup when I had it provisionally unlocked with ez-unlock and rooted with online nandroid. At least the nandroid included files that looked good and a boot img.
I might have found something:
http://vsphone.info/index.php?phone1=7468&phone2=6042
The hn is gsm and the r5 is cdma, I wonder if that would nix the changeover
Sorry for the long winded post.
Hey Thanks,
Dave