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Problems with Titanium Backup's "Integrate system app updates into ROM" feature.
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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If your rooted you can replace them yourself.
deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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I faced the same probs. But here is a few tips to get back your app:
1. Use titanium backup, run Batch, uninstall those apps that you have moved to ROM (which already highlighted in Red)
2. Find install apks for those apps in Google, reinstall it
3. Reboot your device
4. All app icons have back
Have fun, mate!!
winbytrick said:
I faced the same probs. But here is a few tips to get back your app:
1. Use titanium backup, run Batch, uninstall those apps that you have moved to ROM (which already highlighted in Red)
2. Find install apks for those apps in Google, reinstall it
3. Reboot your device
4. All app icons have back
Have fun, mate!!
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I had the same problem; with the Android Market app disappeared. I have tried to re-install it the way you suggest, but the app stops working when I start any download from the market. Even reset the phone to factory settings, but I have the same problem. Any clue?
Thanks!!!
I just did a hot restart and it was fine for me.
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deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
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I was having a similar problem with my Galaxy Note on ICS 4.04.
Whenever I tried to integrate the Play Store it would delete both the update and the old app and I would have to reinstall the APK.
I also noticed recently that a few other updates that appeared to be integrated successfully reappeared in the list of available updates to integrate, like they reverted to user apps after a reboot?
What finally fixed it for me was selecting the option in Titanium Backup Pro *Menu; Preferences; Advanced Settings; Check the box "Auto-integrate sys Dalvik into"
I then did a backup of my launcher app, long pressed on the backup and selected "Convert to System App", then single pressed on the app backup, selected restore then selected app data only"
It prompted me to reboot, after reboot when I checked the"batch, integrate updates into system ROM" all the apps which I was having problems with had disappeared from the list, and appear to be integrated now.
I don't know if it was the reboot or enabling the option in Titanium Backup, but something changed.
I have some problems also
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
rdefranx said:
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
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Yep, I'm having this exact problem. First the apps didn't show up, so I performed a hot restart. They're all back now, but Dropbox, Chrome, G+ and others that were integrated are all crashing now.
I imagine it's mostly to so with new security features with the S4. If you're using an S4 please stay away from this feature until it's officially recognised as an issue by the TitaniumBackup developer. I'll reflash PDA shortly and report back if that resolves the problem.
chrisfu said:
Yep, I'm having this exact problem. First the apps didn't show up, so I performed a hot restart. They're all back now, but Dropbox, Chrome, G+ and others that were integrated are all crashing now.
I imagine it's mostly to so with new security features with the S4. If you're using an S4 please stay away from this feature until it's officially recognised as an issue by the TitaniumBackup developer. I'll reflash PDA shortly and report back if that resolves the problem.
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I did reflash the phone with the stock firmware and everithing is good. I have tried some apps but it did not work. I just leave them there until titanium backup is updated. This is the most used feature for me and now is not working.
rdefranx said:
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
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Titanium Backup's update this week supposedly fixed integrating on Android 4.2. Who's up to try it out?
M3wThr33 said:
Titanium Backup's update this week supposedly fixed integrating on Android 4.2. Who's up to try it out?
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I will try one of the apps that did not work for me, when I get home. I already updated it today. Thanks
rdefranx said:
I will try one of the apps that did not work for me, when I get home. I already updated it today. Thanks
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It's been a week. Tried it yet?
M3wThr33 said:
It's been a week. Tried it yet?
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Sorry, I have been busy to come back. Well, some work, others no. Chrome did not work but I did google Maps, google play, and several other updates. I did not mess with ChatOn since if something goes wrong it could break S voice and S translator. I just did now Google music and Flipboard. Usually I have to reboot in order to have the shortcut in the apps or to fix the name of them. For example, after integrate flipboard is in the drawer with the name and no icon, it launched fine, google music was fine and worked fine. After reboot the icon came back. The only problem is that if does not work then I have to convert the system app to user in order to make it work. Yesterday I converted the jelly bean photosphere camera to system and it was converted but did not work. It force close, then I tried to converted to user app and it took a long time and just was frozen there. I stopped TB but the camera disapear from the drawer, since rebooting fix the icon or name problem, I did it. My phone did not pass the samsung galaxy logo on boot. It was just a black screen after the logo and pressing the power button did not power on or off when I pressed, only when I released. Lucky me that I did a NAND backup before this process and still I could access download mode and the CWM which I used to restore my phone with the backup in my external card. After everything was as before I started. Now I will be more careful when I do this doing a backup before starting.
Samsung Link update integration did not work, force close. Samsung Hub worked but when press the back button to close then force close. Group play seems to work since it opens and go to the start page and no problem when I press the back button.
Still having same problem
Several programs quit working after converting apps to rom. I couldn't get them to work and finally put the locked rom back in, then unlocked it again. I have a verizon galaxy s4 me7 sch-I545 and the update didn't help here.
i want to know if i do this method, does the phone memory will get smaller if i do this again if the system apps getting new update?
hey there,
i have to grab out this thread because i have problems too. almost every app i integrate into system rom force closes, when i try to start it.
even chmod a+x didn't make it better (but the other apps in /system/app are not executable, so this had no sense).
i'm using the latest cm11 nightly for the motorola photon q. is there a known solution?
I have the same issue with this function as rdefranx.
After the integrate process, all updates are fine and i have the old versions again which i have to update. Repeated the process with single apps with showing same results again.
I also sent an so to the developer, but that's a shame: You never ever get an answer if you have a problem with titanium backup.
The app is good and helped me a lot. But shame on the non existing support. Really disappointing and unprofessional. Oh yes: i paid for the app. Thank you.
Hi, I just quit using his feature. I don't know if will work with my note 3 because I don't want to have problems. I will be subscribing to this thread in case a solution is found.
Also happened to me 4 days ago using a Moto X. Except for me it also deleted the Google keyboard & play store among others.
So I was left with no keyboard to type with and no play store to download from. After a factory rest it meant that by having no keyboard I couldn't even type anything on my phone to create a google account to restore the aps & Keyboard with. I had to reflash the whole rom again, and will stay clear of integrating the apks. I did this 4 days ago, so i'm not sure if titanium has updated since then.
Same problem with me. LG G2 Mini Official KK4.4.2 rooted, after Integrating system apps in ROM almost all of them crashing. Don't think that has to do with titanium, but with the android version. I used tha feature on my old LG P350 (stock rom+cm) and worked perfectly. But now in kitkat is messing up. Btw i'm using the latest version of titanium pro
I deleted the default browser from my lg optimus m for metropcs after root. thought i had a back up for the root, but didn't, and restored to factory settings, now i don't have any web browser at all, and android market does not work. it starts downloading an app, and goes to 100%, afterwards the application crashes and there is nothing on the phone and nothing in downloading list anymore..it just vanishes.. also, i have gmail on the phone but it does not show any new mail. although it does go the inbox...Navigation does not work either.is this because i do not have a web browser? youtube does work.
I tried downloading web browser on the sd card from another phone and putting it on my phone, but i cannot see it at all.
What can i do to to put a web browser without using the market? and once i do get a browser will this fix all the other stuff?
I didn't really delete anything after root other than bloatware.
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I deleted the default browser from my lg optimus m for metropcs after root. thought i had a back up for the root, but didn't, and restored to factory settings, now i don't have any web browser at all, and android market does not work. it starts downloading an app, and goes to 100%, afterwards the application crashes and there is nothing on the phone and nothing in downloading list anymore..it just vanishes.. also, i have gmail on the phone but it does not show any new mail. although it does go the inbox...Navigation does not work either.is this because i do not have a web browser? youtube does work.
I tried downloading web browser on the sd card from another phone and putting it on my phone, but i cannot see it at all.
What can i do to to put a web browser without using the market? and once i do get a browser will this fix all the other stuff?
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You Can Always Make A Nandroid Backup & Flash Another Rom, Either That, Or Try To Flash The Newest "Gapps-20101218" Also You Could Try The Skyfire Browser!!
Hope This Helps You!!
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I did the same thing....easiest thing to do is remove all you root info, super user and any other things that were not on the phone. take it back to metro and have them replace it. say that you were just on the phone with someone the phone turned off and now you are missing apps. they replaced mine with no issues. or you can find the LGNPST 1.2 store model and both the LGNPST components 5.0.12.0 and generics 5.0.10.0 restore your phone. you will also need the files to reload the stock software.....
You could pull the browser.apk from another rom and push it to the phone in adb or make a flashable zip or just reflash the rom.
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Hi - I have the stock rooted EE4 ROM, and I needed to do a factory reset this afternoon. Before the reset, I backed up all my apps with MyBackup Pro.
While it restored mostly OK, I seem to be stuck now.
A number of my apps show that they need to be updated.
However, my Market app is the old one (probably the one that was embedded in the ROM). Now, whenever I try to update (or, install) any of my apps, the download just seems to abort after a second, and none of my apps are getting updated/installed.
It doesn't matter if it is a new or old app - nothing gets downloaded. I do have 3G/4G data available, since I can browse OK, and the Market does show apps in its GUI.
How do I fix this?
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¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have the stock rooted EE4 ROM, and I needed to do a factory reset this afternoon. Before the reset, I backed up all my apps with MyBackup Pro.
While it restored mostly OK, I seem to be stuck now.
A number of my apps show that they need to be updated.
However, my Market app is the old one (probably the one that was embedded in the ROM). Now, whenever I try to update (or, install) any of my apps, the download just seems to abort after a second, and none of my apps are getting updated/installed.
It doesn't matter if it is a new or old app - nothing gets downloaded. I do have 3G/4G data available, since I can browse OK, and the Market does show apps in its GUI.
How do I fix this?
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Go settings=>applications=>manage applications=>all applications=>market and clear data on the market. Also if you used the factory reset through settings=>privacy, you should never do this from a custom ROM. You should only use that option from a stock ROM.
Awesome, Landshark! That worked!
If I could "thank" you 5 times, I would!
Cheers!
Hi.
Ok, so check this out. Every time I flash a new ROM, I need to go into the MARKET and install all my apps (i don't use many, so it's not that time-consuming).
One day, I installed this GO LAUNCHER. When I flashed my rom again, in some magical way, all my apps were downloaded and installed (NOT restored, but re-installed fresh).
I do not know how the Go Launcher did this, since this happens before I even to to the market and install it after a fresh rom. Magic!
In any case, this stopped happening for some reason when I did my last flash (Weapon).
My question is - is there an APP that does this?
Again, i do NOT wish to RESTORE my apps. I wish for the MARKET to download all the apps was using (FRESH install them).
Is there a way to do this without GO Launcher?
Thanks
Whats supposed to happen is that Android is supposed to automatically download and reinstall your apps. The problem is that it doesn't always work. In fact, it has never worked correctly. Its really a hit or miss.
I think the reason is because everytime you do a fresh install of Android, it includes an old version (usually 2 or 3 versions back) of the Android Market. So the first thing it does is upgrade Market and I believe that is where it messes up with the restoring of apps.
ICS has supposedly fixed this issue.
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THANK YOU!!!
Best way I've found is to make a backup of whatever rom you are on with all your apps and do a selective restore for the Data only from cwm, should put everything back including your google account.
I've done it many times between roms and have had no noticeable issues, but I can't guarantee you won't.
I haven't checked with a fresh rom install but i believe titanium can now push the updated version of software into the rom.
Meaning on your list you would see two listings of gmail.. The old and then the updated. If you pushed them into the rom and did a nandroid i wonder if the newer version of the app stays.
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Hey guys,
I'm running Lollipop on my nexus 5 and totally hate the new Gmail app for various ui reasons. The rest of the OS I generally like. I'd like to downgrade to the previous 4.9 version of the app to get the old ui back, but just simply trying to install the apk doesn't seem to work. Since it's a system app, I was thinking about replacing the apk with root Explorer. What do you guys think? Possible to do?
Does the install fail? As with all previous versions, they've been installable.
You may just have to learn to live with it though or find an alternative app.
rootSU said:
Does the install fail? As with all previous versions, they've been installable.
You may just have to learn to live with it though or find an alternative app.
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Yeah the install fails. I figured it out though. First what I did was freeze the original app through titanium backup, and then it allowed me to install the old version. Has been working great since. Renaming the app in the system and then trying to install the old version didn't work - it installed, but just crashed right away.
hungry4cheese said:
Yeah the install fails. I figured it out though. First what I did was freeze the original app through titanium backup, and then it allowed me to install the old version. Has been working great since. Renaming the app in the system and then trying to install the old version didn't work - it installed, but just crashed right away.
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Oh. I didn't realise you still had the other version.
Yeah you can't have two apps the same. Its not based on package name either. So you can rename them all you want but that won't work
rootSU said:
Oh. I didn't realise you still had the other version.
Yeah you can't have two apps the same. Its not based on package name either. So you can rename them all you want but that won't work
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Well I uninstalled all updates to the lollipop version (5.0) and then tried to rename the gmail apk in the system so the system wouldn't recognize it anymore. That removed the app and allowed me to install version 4.9, but after installing all it did was crash. I undid my changes and then tried to freeze the app in TB, which worked and allowed me to install version 4.9apk, which works great now. And then I just told the market not to update it to 5.0. I'm a fan of the older design on this app. Much more usable. The rest is okay and I like the new design.
Android likes to wait until ram is full. Then it clear ram when it needs it. This leads to lag since unlike iOS the ui is on the same thread(stupid). Also, android uses garbage collection which uses more ram unlike arc.
So, clearing processes does help but then it just builds up again.
With keyboards running at 40mb and gmail at 60mb this is only going to get worse.
There is also cache clearing that might help... But which cache doesn't lose settings? I'm also beginning to think that a lot of photos can slow things but I don't really know why since that should be static storage and nothing to do with RAM
I would really like to know how you managed to install gmail version 4.9 on lollipop... I have a oneplus one and I just got the paid version of titanium backup to try what you said worked for you - freezing gmail then installing a 4.9 APK, and while it looks like the freezing worked, when I try to install 4.9 it just says "App not installed".. no details or anything else. What else can I try?
tamale said:
I would really like to know how you managed to install gmail version 4.9 on lollipop... I have a oneplus one and I just got the paid version of titanium backup to try what you said worked for you - freezing gmail then installing a 4.9 APK, and while it looks like the freezing worked, when I try to install 4.9 it just says "App not installed".. no details or anything else. What else can I try?
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Have you tried rebooting into recovery and wiping the dalvik cache and then trying to install and old version. I don't have a reason for an older version and right about now I don't really want to have to restore a backup if I bork it doing that
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The old gmail runs on dalvik I think, whereas lollipop uses art. It won't work
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I got it. Just had to use the built in downloads app to open the apk, not es file explorer. For some reason that worked!
tamale said:
I got it. Just had to use the built in downloads app to open the apk, not es file explorer. For some reason that worked!
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Congrats! Just saw this. Glad you got it to work. I've sort of given up /in to Google at this point since my note 4 is not rooted. If it was I would downgrade again. Hope others find this thread still useful.