Hi,
after having lots of lag issues with class 10 cards and data2sd or data2whatever, I found out that what's most important for a card is random write speeds.
Even though they can sustain really high sequential write speeds (more than 10MB/s), class 10 cards have really bad random write. Unfortunately, I didn't test the random write speeds on the 2 class 10 cards I bought (and returned...). From what I've seen on the web, these speeds can be as low as 8KB/s at 4Kb block size
What I can tell you is that my old 4gb class2 sandisk random write speed is about 30KB/s at 4Kb block size. This card was a LOT better than the class 10 cards I tried, in terms of lag.
I bought a Sandisk 8GB Mobile Ultra, class 4, and I'm really happy with it. The random write speed is 1.7MB/s at 4kb block size (almost 57x faster than my old card).
So, my conclusion is: If you want to use scripts like data2sd or data2whatever, go for cards with high random write speeds instead of class.
Well, so i am happy i bought same card you now have. but still some apps seems a bit laggy even with the ultra card.
install sd tools from market then see how fast they really r
I also have a sandisk mobile ultra 8gb class4...price 19,90€ from mediaworld.
It's a fine card capable of write and read small files in very very short times
8GB class 6 Sandisk mobile ultra - I'm affraid there's no class 10 card to compare with this one
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dakore....is that defiantly a class 6 because I've searched everywhere to source the same card in the UK and can't find any?
Thanks
duvl said:
dakore....is that defiantly a class 6 because I've searched everywhere to source the same card in the UK and can't find any?
Thanks
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Hi,
you can try PCWORLD online, I think they have that card.
Super34
duvl said:
dakore....is that defiantly a class 6 because I've searched everywhere to source the same card in the UK and can't find any?
Thanks
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Class 6 for sure. I've bought it 2-3 years ago... Nowadays, it's really hard to find it.
Couldn't find your card dakore so bought this one instead for £13.99 from Amazon.
Samsung MB-MP8GEU 8GB Micro SDHC PLUS Class 6 Extreme Speed Memory Card.
So far very happy with it.
I use transends Class 10 16gb micro sdhc
It is very lag to use data2sd,so I changed to a2sd
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8GB class 6 Sandisk mobile ultra - I'm affraid there's no class 10 card to compare with this one
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Is the custom rom you using increase your sd card read cache ?
I have A-data 32gb 10class
Yeah, i'm not to sad to get a 16 gb u-sd card only class 4 now!
I'll see if it is good when i get it (today normally )!
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Is the custom rom you using increase your sd card read cache ?
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Don't know what are you asking, but I didn't mess with SD card "boosters" or any system parameter. Stock Oxygen and clean fat32-only card.
Nice!!
@FlattOutRu ordered on of those bad boys last week.
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My 8gb sandisk class 4 is very smooth to run data2w or data2ext..
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
No sign of lag using data2ext on my Sandisk 8 gig Class 4 (1 gig Ext 4 partition).
What software did you use to find out your microSD random write speeds ?
Windows based ? Android based ?
anybody any idea of *SanDisk Memory Card Mobile Ultra 8 GB Class 6* is compatable with *Samsung Fascinate I500* Mobile handset.
is it faster than "Transcend Memory Card MicroSDHC 8GB Class 10".
regards
Related
i'm buying next week TOUCH PRO and i was wondering, should i get a 16 GIG card or it will give me a problems like slower device? what do you guys recomend me to get?
thanks in advance
this is the card
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Im using 16gb card and works great!
Me too
infact, HTC's website states that max limit microSD (2.0) is 16gb..
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49534 --- swap and store page 6
just don't buy a cheap, slow one... it does make a difference (mine works fine, btw)
Yes the same card as I'm using - you can get them for around £38 in the UK now
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i'm buying next week TOUCH PRO and i was wondering, should i get a 16 GIG card or it will give me a problems like slower device? what do you guys recomend me to get?
thanks in advance
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If you would have taken a look in Raphael accessories you would have found this easily
(With some things to look at)
up to 32gb
no way the said up to 16gb
32gb will work fine no pro
thank you guys! i will get the 16G card next week and the phone also.
cant wait! my first WM phone.
tokitad said:
i'm buying next week TOUCH PRO and i was wondering, should i get a 16 GIG card or it will give me a problems like slower device? what do you guys recomend me to get?
thanks in advance
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That card's no good, it's almost bigger than the phone itself...!
...I'll get me coat...
skduk said:
just don't buy a cheap, slow one... it does make a difference (mine works fine, btw)
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I bought a cheap slow one. Its class 2 thats the only kind they make Dandisk 16gig Class to for 75 bucks.
Anyone know the speed difference between Class 2 and 6. Someone posted that the writing speed doubled but the reading spead was just a little better.
sdlopez83 said:
I bought a cheap slow one. Its class 2 thats the only kind they make Dandisk 16gig Class to for 75 bucks.
Anyone know the speed difference between Class 2 and 6. Someone posted that the writing speed doubled but the reading spead was just a little better.
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The Class refers to the number of Mb/sec. Therefore Class 2 is 2Mb /sec. Class 4 is 4 and Class 6 is 6. See http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
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The Class refers to the number of Mb/sec. Therefore Class 2 is 2Mb /sec. Class 4 is 4 and Class 6 is 6. See http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
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The 16Gb MicroSD of SanDisk only comes in Class2
(See Sandisk specs.)
And that's the only 16Gb microSD I've seen so far.
So not a lot of choice I'm afraid
lol.......
tokitad said:
i'm buying next week TOUCH PRO and i was wondering, should i get a 16 GIG card or it will give me a problems like slower device? what do you guys recomend me to get?
thanks in advance
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This is the same card I've got Call of Duty 2 PPC Working on.
Just noticed the picture on your first post is different to that of SanDisk microSDHC™ 16GB Card
Note the 2 next to SanDisk on the image which my card has too - so be careful of fake cards
My Sandisk 16GB MicroSDHC card is working perfectly for a couple of weeks now (its Class 2, currently the only Class available in 16GB microSDHC cards - many are advertising Class 4 but this is incorrect).
Anyone know how fast Touch Pros writing/reading speed is on memorycards?
Im about to order the Sandisk 16gb class 2 now, but am a bit afraid that the speed is to low?? My second choice is the Sandisk Ultra 8gb class 6..
Is their a noticable difference between them, except the storage?
Will be used mainly for, tomtom music and video and some gaming.
I mean, can the TP really take advantage of the high speed of the Ultra card?
Thanks
Has anyone seen a 32Gb mico SD working on the FUZE?
Anyone found them in the USA yet? (besides Ebay).
I am guessing no one except online has the 32 gig sd card. Plenty of places have the 16, but not able to find the 32 besides online. Makes me think any online or not legit.
Anyone have an idea?
I got mine from verizon. I'm not sure if they have them in the store but it was free next day shipping so I bought mine online.
Why was this thread even created when you replied to a thread of the exact same topic at around 7am the same day? Either way....
I tried to organize a group buy for 32GB Class 6 MicroSD cards when I was still on the Samsung Moment forums...needless to say, it was harder than I thought. It seems that they're starting to become more reliable and coming down in price vs when they first started hitting the market. Early on people complained about issues of actually only storing 2-16GB's, sometimes losing information, etc due to something with the formatting of the cards from their producers. As time has gone, they seem to have gotten better and are down to around $50...but I have yet to try one personally.
I got my sandisk 32GB from amazon for around 100USD its a class 2 but read good things about class 2 sandisk vs cheap class 4/6 cards
just ran a test and i write @ 5.5-6.5 MB/s and read @ 11MB/s on mine... testing installed in phone mounted to pc with stock cable
and 29.71GB useable space
BopChie said:
I got my sandisk 32GB from amazon for around 100USD its a class 2 but read good things about class 2 sandisk vs cheap class 4/6 cards
just ran a test and i write @ 5.5-6.5 MB/s and read @ 11MB/s on mine... testing installed in phone mounted to pc with stock cable
and 29.71GB useable space
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That is about the same speed of the 16 GB samsung card that came with my phone.
That's because theyre both only Class 2 cards. They work fine, but once we get apps2sd working, we'll need Class 6 cards for them to be efficient.
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That's because theyreboth only Class 2 cards. They work fine, but once we get apps2sd working, we'll need Class 6 cards for them to be efficient.
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a good C2 will beat a cheap C6... just saying.. class 6 is rated differently by different manufacturers.. some rate buy write and some rate by speed...
sandisk is by write and even so i am writing at 6MBs and reading at 11MBs which is plenty fast for a2sd-ext, actually its in spec for a C6 sd... and thats not using a straight card reader.. thats just mounted and using stock cable fwiw...
just sayin... dont get some 50 dollar "class6" and expect miracles when it comes to speed.
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I know what you're "just sayin", both times. Per a Wikipedia article from the people who first wrote the Apps2SD app stated that a Class 6 card is needed to match the processor speed so the app can run efficiently.
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I know what you're "just sayin", both times. Per a Wikipedia article from the people who first wrote the Apps2SD app stated that a Class 6 card is needed to match the processor speed so the app can run efficiently.
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yes, but a class 6 writes at a minimum of 6MB... that being said a GOOD C2 will be just as efficient.
Hello,
I just enabled a2sd, on my HTC Desire, and I have moved the cache and the data (In-short Everything) to the SD card so now 208Mb free out of 218Mb. I have the stock SD card, it's class 2. So after I moved the data to the SD I feel that applications take like 3-6 seconds to open sometimes less and sometimes more. I was wondering what SD class I should buy?
I am not interested in SD cards by their price or storage. My only concern is fast random access. Because as far as I have red till now, you may get a class 10 SD card and get disappointed because still the performance will be slow and it maybe even slower than the class 2 card I use now. So if I am not wrong, and what I should check in an SD card is the random access please tell me your suggestions for my new SD card, and if possible the random access speed of your suggestion.
Well I was researching for a MicroSD card and decided on the 32GB SanDisk MicroSD card which I paid £24.99 and free delivery in the UK, although I paid £5 for postage as I wanted it fast!!
I would say this is exactly what I found, perfect card and not had any issues with it at all! It's a class 4 but like you say, random read / writes are most important!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
Consider only class 4 or class6 cards. With class 10 there is speed writing large files but because of that the random access writing of small files is very slow. Class 2 cards on the other hand are "just class 2 cards". Class 4 is good but for desire for the most speed comes from a class 6 card. Even if you want to record 720p video you need a class 6 card. I have had a class 4 and the video was laggy.
I'm using class 2 and class 10 SD card on my devices. both ROMs using X2SD and class 10 really faster.
I am using A-data 16gb class 10 card with no problem
I'm using an 8GB class 6 working well here with app2sd. and also with mounted EXT4 1gb partition.
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With class 10 there is speed writing large files but because of that the random access writing of small files is very slow.
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Source?
10char
DaveRichardson said:
Source?
10char
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I guess I can post links now...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011.html
How "fast" is a card determines it's class:
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What we actually care about, random writes between 4kb (one simple write) to 512kb (more heavy sustained writes):
Let's say you see MemoryStar class 10 doing over 20mb/s write speeds and go all "holy dildos this is freaking amazing!!!", but then you take a look at the random writes benchmarks, where it is doing only 1.1mb for 512kb blocks and 0.01mb for 4kb blocks.
Compare that to Sandisk Mobile Ultra class 4, doing just a tiny 16mb/s, but instead can write at 2.7mb/s using 512kb blocks or 0.025mb/s using 4kb blocks (2x faster).
Which one do you choose between the two, at the same price? The class 10 or the class 4?
Another interesting thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
BombaUcigasa said:
I guess I can post links now...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011.html
How "fast" is a card determines it's class:
What we actually care about, random writes between 4kb (one simple write) to 512kb (more heavy sustained writes):
Let's say you see MemoryStar class 10 doing over 20mb/s write speeds and go all "holy dildos this is freaking amazing!!!", but then you take a look at the random writes benchmarks, where it is doing only 1.1mb for 512kb blocks and 0.01mb for 4kb blocks.
Compare that to Sandisk Mobile Ultra class 4, doing just a tiny 16mb/s, but instead can write at 2.7mb/s using 512kb blocks or 0.025mb/s using 4kb blocks (2x faster).
Which one do you choose between the two, at the same price? The class 10 or the class 4?
Another interesting thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
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Dang, that's quite a citation. I ordered a 16gb Class 10 last week because it was the same price as the Class 6s I was seeing--looks like I didn't get as great a deal as I thought.
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With class 10 there is speed writing large files but because of that the random access writing of small files is very slow.
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It isn't question of class but I/O controller.
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Dang, that's quite a citation. I ordered a 16gb Class 10 last week because it was the same price as the Class 6s I was seeing--looks like I didn't get as great a deal as I thought.
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Ah, but now you have a huge capacity of storage, and you can transfer files quickly
Depends on the maker, not all designs are equal. Make sure to install this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sdincrease.it
My best choice at the moment is the Kingston 8Gb Class 10.
Please note that these are benchmarks performed with a limited test on a different hardware and design on a PC, and not inside your phone.
as i posted somewhere else, i really don't feel any speed advantages between a class 6 16gb and a class 10 32gb card, so save your money :-D
but if you often use it to share big files, then it's better to buy a higher class card, because the transfer rate is better
i m using a mustang 16Go class 10 and it's own
12 Mo/s in write
19 Mo/s in Read
Enough for a2sd and daily use
How do you test the mb speed of your microSD?
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As far as I know, many of the higher class cards have been produced by biasing performance to continuous read/write speeds, for use in camcorders/cameras etc so they can record ultra HD or burst capture etc. HOWEVER, for use in a phone, which needs greater random read/write access they can suffer compared to a regular class 4 which is a better balanced card. There is a lot of this going on in the HTC Mozart pages here on XDA, where I've been spending time (had a Mozart, ROM'd it and gave it to my girlfriend, she loves it).
Many people have tried different 32gb/16gb cards, different classes from 2-10 and the results have been surprising. WP7 seems to be unusually fussy about the cards that will actually work with it, and the only card guaranteed to work everytime is SANDISK which says a lot about the quality, and people have been finding that performance with a Class 4 SanDisk card is better than performance with a supposed Class 10 card by another manufacturer such as Integral, Transcend etc or even Samsung and Kingston.
In the end I bought a 32gb SanDisk Class 4 off Amazon, for a lot more than they are on eBay at around £28, apparently there are loads of near-fakes on eBay (only way I could guarantee it was genuine- the chinese are using genuine 4gb SanDisk cards and then re-branding and re-coding them as 32gb, the card thinks it's a 32gb, reports that it's a 32gb card but obviously runs out of room and has errors as soon as you try to put stuff on it).
I am more than happy with my new class 10 Samsung 16GB card, I have been using it with the new Aurora ROM (version 5) and it is a beauty! I previously had the original-packed 4GB class 2 card, it was an absolute nightmare - I really can't tell why it took me so long to get over it and buy the new one.
I am using Samsung Class 6 8Gb card. Seems good right now
I have tried Transcend Class 10 Card but I think its not compatible as the phone constantly reboot, and sometimes it says SD Card Error.
I have a card class 6 and is very fast!
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class 6 is optimal for me
card speed
this might have been posted earlier....but FYI http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/SDCardSpeedTests could be useful.
I use a sandisk 32gb ultra....it is class 2 according to the list (see bottom of the page for further info...but provides class 6 speeds
Join us to know Read/Write speed of SD cards
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my sd card :
SanDisk - 8 giga - class 2
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sandisk 32gb, class2
Sandisk Ultra 16 Gb class 4
Toshiba Class 2, 16GB:
Lexar Class 10, 32GB:
Not convinced that either of these are actually class 10, although SdTools isn't particularly reliable/consistent anyway..
EDIT: Oops, the 16gb PNY is the one in my camera. The first one is actually a Toshiba Class 2, 16GB
Medion micro sd 32GB
Lexar 32 GB class 10 :
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Lexar 32 GB class 10 :
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Weird, I have the same card and get a lower write speed...
What's the speed of yours when copying files over USB? I get like 5MB/s max. I wonder if mine is faulty.
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Weird, I have the same card and get a lower write speed...
What's the speed of yours when copying files over USB? I get like 5MB/s max. I wonder if mine is faulty.
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I have the same card also. My readings are very strange with SD Tools. I can run it and get as low as 4MB/s read and 18MB/s write. When I run the test again immediately it can go as high as 9.7MB/s read and 36MB/s write. I can keep doing it over and over and every time is a different reading. I've tried to do this after rebooting, I've tried it on different roms (AOSP and Sense) and still the same thing. I've tried SD Booster and it didn't help much either.
so it seems that the results of this app maybe not reliable, or there is another something that affect on the results.
Anyway it does not appear to benefit from this test.
thnx very much
Can't you people see that it does not matter which class you have. Because Dhd can't write faster than 5–9 mbs even if you have class 10.
So put whichever you like to use you will get the same speed. I have both a class 2 and a class 10 and I get theI same result.
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I'm really suspicious, I wonder if it's reliable, cause I got results that was better the first time.
I don't know if it's reliable or not, but I did 3 tests on my DHD, AR 6.3.1 mod, quite a few apps installed, half-full SD card a KINGMAX 16GB Class 6 which i bought 2 days ago. My previous card was a SAMSUNG 8GB Class 2 (the one that came with the phone).
What's interesting to note is that, after doing the first test I thought to myself "hey, why not overclock the cpu from 1.1GHz to 1.6GHz?" and so the second test went better than expected. Then I went from 1.6GHz to 1.2GHz and I got slightly better results than the 1.1GHz. See for yourself:
1.1:
1.6:
1.2:
Coincidence much? Or working as intended?
Notes: Both cards are SDHC. OC has been done with Daemon Controller. 1.1=1152000. 1.2=122880. 1.6=1612800.
Even without over clocking you will get a different result every time u run the test, even if u do it back to back. I think the test is full of **** and shouldn't be relied on.
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Sandisk SDXC - 64 GB - Class 6
Zeitraffer said:
Sandisk SDXC - 64 GB - Class 6
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Is Desire HD is realy compatible with micro SDXC 64GB?
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Is Desire HD is realy compatible with micro SDXC 64GB?
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Yes.
I'm using it since 2 weeks.
You can read all about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281585
Sd tools?
I'm extremely dubious about the results obtained from SD tools. I recently bought a 16GB, class 10 Samsung card and got to testing it. I got almost identical results for the 16GB card as I did for the 8GB, class 2 card that came with phone, but I did notice a difference in the time each card took to complete the test so I timed them.
8GB Class class 2: write 87 seconds, read 27seconds.
16GB Class 10: write 51 seconds, read 7 seconds.
So going by time took the class 10 is a lot faster but not according to the figures from SD tool results. Maybe someone else could try and post their results. I know this is off topic but if SDtools doesn't give accurate results none of these posts are any good.
SD Card PNY 32gb class 4
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hey there pplz!
well, that's my question... may i use a class 10 micro sd (8 gb) in my optimus one p500?
thanks in advance
yes, u can use class 10 8GB microSD with O1.
better than 6
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yes, u can use class 10 8GB microSD with O1.
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tnx a lot dude!
yes, i am using currently class 10 8gb and works perfectly, but gets small if you wanna play ps1 games that are 700MB each, so i have to ask:
Is there any benefits of using class 10 sd card on our phone over class 4, cuz i wanna get 16gb but class 4 is much more cheaper...???
Echelonex said:
yes, i am using currently class 10 8gb and works perfectly, but gets small if you wanna play ps1 games that are 700MB each, so i have to ask:
Is there any benefits of using class 10 sd card on our phone over class 4, cuz i wanna get 16gb but class 4 is much more cheaper...???
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You will get enough space for sure, but it won't be as fast as class 10. i.e. the read and write speed of class 10 microSD is much faster than class 4.
You can go for class 6, if its available to u in good price, class 6 is satisfactorily faster than 4...
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go for 6.
coz i had read somewhere that class 10 is apt for digicams with incredible read write speed capacities.
i dont think a class 10 would be value for money for our O1..
while class 6 works perfect
i don't think we need a class 10 card...get the class6 16gb versions...
I have personally tested the class 10 and class 6 micro sd cards. There were not much difference and as such, I'd recommend for the class 6 card.
get a class 6 minimum and i do belive the added speed is a bonus so you should go for the highers class possible, 8 gb seems enough unless you want to store like 200 ps1 games for what ever odd reason. But go for the highest capacity / class you can afford tbh no sense getting a class 4 16gb just becouse it's cheaper by a bit. I don't know about prices where you live but here they are dirt cheap.
from what I read somewhere in the internet, class 10 are best for file streaming/sequential writes, it will reach max speed when you transfer very large file such as handycam, but for small files it will never reach max speed, instead, lower class such as class 6 (for other brands) or class 4 for Sandisk, it's random writes surpasses class 10.
I use Sandisk 8Gb class 4, and it reached 9Mb/s for writing & 34Mb/s for reading.
I'm using transcend 8GB class 10, had only 250mb free wen i tested.
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