Battery with System Panel - Thunderbolt General

I went to sleep around 11:30 last night. Before I went to bed I turned off mobile completely and had 94%. When I woke up at 7:45 I had 64%. Take a look at these screenshots and tell me how I can improve my battery. As you can see in the second screenshot I didn't use my phone at all but look at the drastic decrease.
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That's odd for sure. Did you check the system's battery stats? Just seems like the app you're using isn't telling the whole story.
BTW, what app is that?
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System Panel
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Anyone know what I could do to fix this?
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First thing I'd target is system panel itself...an app that polls your phone for system statistics...yeah...

Was this a one time thing, or does it happen every night? Did you check the system's battery info, as suggested above? Are you running a custom kernel/ROM? Did you see CPU spikes in System Panel during that period? Was wifi on?
I frankly have no idea what your problem could be, but a little more info might help.

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First thing I'd target is system panel itself...an app that polls your phone for system statistics...yeah...
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system panel is superb, it uses barely any cpu at all.
anyway to the OP, i do the same test every night, i leave my phone idle, then check system panel in the morning. i drop 6% in 7 hours, but yours definitely dropped a lot. obviously no app or process is showing up, so i would just reboot and try another test tonight. perhaps some glitch happened, radio was wacky, i dont know. but that's not normal.
however we do know that the stock ROM has a high current draw at idle, around 34mA, when other phones get 4mA during idle. so who knows maybe it's normal.
i wish i had some screen shots of my system panel figures to show you.

I've noticed abnormal battery usage with low phone signal as well. Think the phones (Inc and Thunderbolt) ramp up voltage trying to amplify a low signal.
But i notice that you have a graph for 8 hours but the usage report is showing you only 2 mins. Dont think it's giving you an accurate usage report while charging. Depending on what you having it charging on it's possible to drain more charge than your receiving. Especially with USB computer charging.

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First thing I'd target is system panel itself...an app that polls your phone for system statistics...yeah...
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Linux is actually keeping the statistics, the app just scans /proc and other directories at intervals to log it over time. Intervals are 15 minutes-ish on battery, our target spec is <1 min of CPU consumption per day to perform this service. (Am the author)
Unfortunately SystemPanel also isn't finding the specific culprit in this case, i.e., it's only showing that app CPU usage isn't the problem. Best guess in such scenarios is either some app that is running in the background preventing the phone from going into its best low power state or is using a bunch of power running one of the radios. I'd next try doing the same thing in airplane mode.
Will be adding more data logging for additional such as network bandwidth in future versions.

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I've noticed abnormal battery usage with low phone signal as well. Think the phones (Inc and Thunderbolt) ramp up voltage trying to amplify a low signal.
But i notice that you have a graph for 8 hours but the usage report is showing you only 2 mins. Dont think it's giving you an accurate usage report while charging. Depending on what you having it charging on it's possible to drain more charge than your receiving. Especially with USB computer charging.
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What the usage report is saying is that in those 8 hours his System Processes only used the CPU for about 2 minutes. That would lead me to believe that there is something running in the back ground that System Monitor is not picking up. I would suggest doing what the Dev above me said and see if that might help figure out what process that is.

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What the usage report is saying is that in those 8 hours his System Processes only used the CPU for about 2 minutes. That would lead me to believe that there is something running in the back ground that System Monitor is not picking up. I would suggest doing what the Dev above me said and see if that might help figure out what process that is.
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i believe system panel uses linux commands such as "top" which picks up everything that hits the CPU. so the offending battery drainer is something else, such as the radio for example going wacky, etc. i admit the OP's usage seems strange as i do the same test every night with system panel, but when something weird does happen, the ofending app clearly shows up in system panel.
the next step is taking logs with the current widget and seeing how high idle current draw is. i get around 5mA to 10mA idle current draw.

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[Q] GPS Status and Toolbox

I downloaded this app to help speed up GPS fixes and to gawk over the data for a bit, and it does indeed speed up how fast you can acquire a GPS lock, especially indoors. I downloaded the app, launched it and reset the GPS then downloaded A-GPS data. The program was on for maybe 2 minutes, and after quitting I verified it as not running in the background. I went to sleep with 87% battery life left and when I woke up I was at 64%, a noticeably larger drain with GPS Status listed as using 16% under battery usage. Anyone else using this app notice it taking a large chunk of battery? It didn't have this much usage when I went to sleep, the app wasn't running while I slept, and yet its battery usage increased during these hours.
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I realize the screenshot lists 11% and I said it used 16%, but I have been using the phone for a while since so as other apps use more its total %age goes down.
Anyone else using this app?
That's odd, my GPS Status and toolbox runs fine, however occasionally there is a bug where if you exit out of the app, your GPS wont turn off unless you actually toggle it off.
That may be the problem, there was an update to that app today, try that and report back to us. Or, you can also use "GPS TEST" that works okay on these phones
Yeah I suspected that but I'm a battery fiend so I turn on and off services like gps and mobile data as needed anyway. I've even tried toggling gps on and off a few times just to make sure. I uninstalled and reinstalled the app last night but got similar results. Actually it used more last night than the previous and I haven't even launched the app for two days. I suppose I'll have to uninstall it which is a shame because it really does improve gps performance. It used 22% last night!
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as previously stated, tonight try GPSTest by chartcross. It does the same thing
Thanks, I'll give it a shot tonight and report back!
Indeed GPS Test worked just as well and didn't suck my battery all night! Thanks for that.
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No worries, glad it worked for you.
Just FYI: I got the same problem on a SGS2 so it's most certainly not your ROM/device/settings.
Uninstalling GPS Status, going back to GPS Test.
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I downloaded this app to help speed up GPS fixes and to gawk over the data for a bit, and it does indeed speed up how fast you can acquire a GPS lock, especially indoors. I downloaded the app, launched it and reset the GPS then downloaded A-GPS data. The program was on for maybe 2 minutes, and after quitting I verified it as not running in the background. I went to sleep with 87% battery life left and when I woke up I was at 64%, a noticeably larger drain with GPS Status listed as using 16% under battery usage. Anyone else using this app notice it taking a large chunk of battery? It didn't have this much usage when I went to sleep, the app wasn't running while I slept, and yet its battery usage increased during these hours.
I realize the screenshot lists 11% and I said it used 16%, but I have been using the phone for a while since so as other apps use more its total %age goes down.
Anyone else using this app?
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How did you get the battery graph like that?
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Delicate Donut said:
How did you get the battery graph like that?
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Settings > About phone > Battery usage
I think this was introduced in 2.3 Gingerbread.
faildroid said:
Settings > About phone > Battery usage
I think this was introduced in 2.3 Gingerbread.
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Ahh I see I'm still on froyo
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Battery life is is bad now. 4+ hour wake time.

So I had great battery life not too long ago but now I can barely make it a whole day. My awake times are very high and I can't pinpoint the cause. I attached some wakelock detector info. Right now I have about an hour and a half of screen on and 16% battery left.
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I am having same issue with phone getting really warm. No new app installs other than things like wakelock detector. I can't figure out what is causing it and better battery stats isn't showing me anything.
Add me to the list. Never needed my third battery until yesterday. No out of the ordinary modifications.
smac7 said:
So I had great battery life not too long ago but now I can barely make it a whole day. My awake times are very high and I can't pinpoint the cause. I attached some wakelock detector info. Right now I have about an hour and a half of screen on and 16% battery left.
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Try freezing maps and other not needed Gapps, it solved my long wake times. I also use Tasker to hibernate all my apps then put the phone in airplane mode when the screen turns off then waken them up and turn wifi back on when the screen comes on, battery life through the roof
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So what's a normal awake time?
I've had battery problems in the past with other phones but usually wake lock detector can find the offending app. Nothing is jumping out at me this time. Google seems to be using a lot but I would like to keep using those apps unaffected.
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Same here I took my phone off the charger at 10pm by 1am I was down to 37% with 17 min of sot, something isn't right, I'll try to grab ss tonight. And yes the phone gets really hot
I just had my G3 replaced after my new one suddenly died on me.
I notice a couple of subtle software changes by AT&T.
Yesterday my battery was on 60%. Before I left the office.
When I got home (45 minutes) I took the phone out of the pouch and it was really hot and the battery wad won to 19%.
First time this has happened to me. Will have to monitor.
I got fed up with it all. I did a factory reset. I'm going slowly re add apps back. I certainly noticed a performance bump after the factory reset. Night and day. I didn't even realize how much it slowed until i reset it.
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I got fed up with it all. I did a factory reset.
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wake lock detector isn't really a good app for telling you exactly what the issue is. betterbatterystats is your best bet to find out exactly what the issue is - it will tell you precisely what the issue is holding your phone awake.
Sometimes, shutting down and pulling the battery out for a second is all it takes to fix the problem. rebooting doesn't always solve whatever it is...
My phone "freezes" now and again, it always has something to do with me texting, but screen off and on will fix it..and it does get warm when frozen per say...but it will normally fix itself with me interacting with it. But if your guys are not holding it when it happens I can see it draining out your battery stuck at higher clock for no reason...now wonder if I should pull logs....
When I say interact I mean I have to push the power button. Knock on won't work. Similar to the dreaded sleep of death but seems to pull out of it.
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Like another user mentioned pulling battery or at least resetting the phone periodically helps with battery and helps keep things running smooth. Using Better Battery Stats and looking at Alarms and Partial Wakelocks is a good way to determine if there is a rogue app killing your battery. A couple good Xposed Modules, if you're not using them or aware of them, are Greenify to help hibernate apps that like to constantly wake the phone and NLB Unbounce module is a good one for if you want to keep your location on and keep Google Now functionality. You can set how often you want the wakelocks and alarms to trigger and with the donate you can do the same with any wakelock/alarm. Just be cautious if using the pro version as some alarms or wakelocks if disabled or tinkered with incorrectly could make the phone unstable. Just a few tips/ideas. I have the VS985 and have had pretty good battery life since getting everything set up and debloated. Usually about 17-18 hours on battery (I don't sleep much) and 4-5 hours screen on time. I like the screen on the brighter side as well, which usually I adjust with the status bar so I don't have an exact percentage for the brightness. For some other tips and apps or even maybe something you haven't thought about check out this thread: G3 Battery Tweaks :good:
Factory reset.
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I noticed my phone was getting warm in the pocket too, with bad battery life. I finally figured out the phone was waking as if it thought it was getting the 'double tap' to wake. I believe you can disable the double tap in the secret menu (3845#*850#)

How to fix terrible battery life after update?

I used search and looked through several pages of Q&A threads and didn't see an answer to this. If I missed the thread, please point me to it and accept my apology.
I updated to check for the recall and I'll be getting a new Shield Tablet eventually but my battery life nosedived immediately after the update. I read that Lollypop has had battery issues but the only fix I seem to read about elsewhere is flashing CM which does not interest me particularly. My battery life instantly dropped from 4-6 hours to barely 2 since the update.
When I went to battery stats prior to the update, I saw all the apps that were running and after the update I only see things like "screen," "android os," "android system," and "chrome." I'll have lost 50% of the battery and battery stats will tell me that the screen has used 15%, os & system have used 5% but there aren't enough percentages to add up to either the 50% lost or 100% of used battery life. I'm not even sure how to read the stats anymore.
Is there a kernel I can flash or something to regain the battery life I had prior to the update?
Any assistance is most appreciated.
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Hi
I've actually noticed the same thing, thought I had lost my mind or something. Luckily I'm getting a RMA ( faulty battery recall)
But I would really like to find a solution to this in the mean time...
Tried a factory reset?
Its all about using hardware ....
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I used search and looked through several pages of Q&A threads and didn't see an answer to this. If I missed the thread, please point me to it and accept my apology.
I updated to check for the recall and I'll be getting a new Shield Tablet eventually but my battery life nosedived immediately after the update. I read that Lollypop has had battery issues but the only fix I seem to read about elsewhere is flashing CM which does not interest me particularly. My battery life instantly dropped from 4-6 hours to barely 2 since the update.
When I went to battery stats prior to the update, I saw all the apps that were running and after the update I only see things like "screen," "android os," "android system," and "chrome." I'll have lost 50% of the battery and battery stats will tell me that the screen has used 15%, os & system have used 5% but there aren't enough percentages to add up to either the 50% lost or 100% of used battery life. I'm not even sure how to read the stats anymore.
Is there a kernel I can flash or something to regain the battery life I had prior to the update?
Any assistance is most appreciated.
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Okay so In your tablet you got 4 core
4 core means twice as much battery use because you can adjust it y dividing them to half
which is with update they made the cpus using full capacity all 4 of them
so when your not gaming or with your gaming which is it didnt show any difference to me while Im playing heartstone
settings >shield power control>my power mode enable again and customize my power mode >max cpu cores 2
then try with this and youll be allright also
another poing I would love to make and share my experience with you
So far if any of your google apps or location apps is on they draw approx 30 percent more battery
Its disgracefull I know so for that
Settings>location>off
then another thing is I come across a lot
settings > wifi >advanced options ( top of right corner 3 dots)>Scanning always available is off
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Limiting the number of active cups is not the option. But three are other settings related to CPU which not te reduce their number but reducing their frequency first. Your room possibly is too much conservative about power usage because Android is made to used the "on demand" governor for CPU settings and assumes that there's a scheduler that will update the frequency every few seconds instead of every minute where all cups will email active for at least some time, so that it is never really idle. The exists some tools like CPU tuner that allows defining the CPU parameters and the threshold of time usage for which the usage rates can be updated down or up.
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Has anyone noticed that under the shield power control --> apps , one can no longer set apps to "let Nvidia optimise it" . Only two option available, disabled or custom
Running the latest update
Anyone else?
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Limiting the number of active cups is not the option. But three are other settings related to CPU which not te reduce their number but reducing their frequency first. Your room possibly is too much conservative about power usage because Android is made to used the "on demand" governor for CPU settings and assumes that there's a scheduler that will update the frequency every few seconds instead of every minute where all cups will email active for at least some time, so that it is never really idle. The exists some tools like CPU tuner that allows defining the CPU parameters and the threshold of time usage for which the usage rates can be updated down or up.
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Well I did it and its perfect.
I even got blissrom now
And I did customised again cooler then ever so
Your wrong by saying that "not the option" matey .
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Help finding/fixing idle battery drain

Hi my wife bought a Note 5 two days ago (9/30). She did all setup, app restoring, etc that evening and fully charged the phone overnight. However her phone is experiencing idle drain that I need some help fixing.
Some other info: battery saver modes are off, wifi is always on (but only connected at home), bluetooth is always off.
10/1: Arrived at work with 100% battery
A little over 4 hours later, with light use, the phone was at 51% with less that 45 mins SOT
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With facebook as the biggest offender I suggested she turn off the setting of pre-loading pics and videos.
When she got home she charged phone to 100%. I also changed mobile network to CDMA/LTE. Here's how the battery looked with light use before going to bed:
10/2 - Left the phone unplugged over night to see what would happen, it lost 12% sitting on the nightstand for 8 hours.
Will report back later this afternoon to see how the day is progressing.
First step for me in reducing battery drain was to disable the Facebook app. It is a battery hog and was always at the top of my list. Instead, use a browser and create a shortcut to facebook.com or install Metal from the Play Store which is a web wrapper for Facebook and so much lighter. Sometimes I still get strange battery drain from Android system (up to 35% sometimes!). But this usually gets resolved just by opening up recent apps and closing all.
Hmm, I don't have problems with Facebook app on my droid turbo
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First step for me in reducing battery drain was to disable the Facebook app. It is a battery hog and was always at the top of my list. Instead, use a browser and create a shortcut to facebook.com or install Metal from the Play Store which is a web wrapper for Facebook and so much lighter. Sometimes I still get strange battery drain from Android system (up to 35% sometimes!). But this usually gets resolved just by opening up recent apps and closing all.
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Some people want notifications.
Regardless, Facebook doesn't seem to be showing up at the top afte the setting change. I'm interested to see what she has this afternoon. Will have some updates screen shots later on. I also asked her to charge ~3pm then drive home with nav on to see what the battery looks like under heavy usage.
I need to dig into Android System to see what's going on there, any ideas? Will GSAM pro give more insight here?
Not looking good, 22% used in 2.5 hours with 20min SOT
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Where is the setting for turning off preload pics and videos in Facebook? I dont see it in the facebook app settings.
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Where is the setting for turning off preload pics and videos in Facebook? I dont see it in the facebook app settings.
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I lied, facebook setting is "play videos automatically", I have to assume turning this off will save data/battery. Also Instagram has "use less data" setting. I thought I read that this stops pre-loading of videos/images, but I might have imagined that?
Anyway, for facebook setting hit the menu button next to the notifications icon then scroll to "App Settings" near the bottom of the screen.
After most of a work day and light use she's down to 58%. Looks like facebook is back up there, odd because it's not a problem on my phone.
Does anyone know how to troubleshoot why Android System is using so much battery?
I have a note 4 and I'm having similar issue ls
Hi I'm facing kind of same problem but other device HTC one m7 and rom is aicp I don't know what is draining battery in idle time but almost 10 to 20 % is gone in idle and the fun thing is I use airplane mod all the time
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yogiboor said:
Hi I'm facing kind of same problem but other device HTC one m7 and rom is aicp I don't know what is draining battery in idle time but almost 10 to 20 % is gone in idle and the fun thing is I use airplane mod all the time
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You guys have to also take in consideration the Lollipop total connection time bug. Apps open up a connection and it won't close it when it's done... For example my first charge cycle I signed into instagram and it used 40% of my battery without me ever open again. The total connection time of most apps ends up being hours when it shouldn't be. That won't be fixed untill Marshmallow comes to the Note 5. Google is aware and has fixed it. It's on multiple Lollipop devices.
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Mine seems to die by every morning if I don't charge it over night
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You guys have to also take in consideration the Lollipop total connection time bug. Apps open up a connection and it won't close it when it's done... For example my first charge cycle I signed into instagram and it used 40% of my battery without me ever open again. The total connection time of most apps ends up being hours when it shouldn't be. That won't be fixed untill Marshmallow comes to the Note 5. Google is aware and has fixed it. It's on multiple Lollipop devices.
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I use greenify to hibernate apps but still some thing is going on but marshmallow is coming out soon so I am happy
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Yea I've used that for a while. When I force stop an app I tend to not see it encounter that bug
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If the device is rooted then you can try Greenify to hibernate the apps which are consuming the battery life.Try other simple solutions like disabling the Wifi and other tools when not using them.Sometimes Play services may cause the issue so try to fix them.There are some guides which may help you http://fixdroidbattery.net/fix-fast-battery-drain-problem-on-samsung-galaxy-note-5/
http://recomhub.com/blog/how-to-fix-samsung-galaxy-note-5-fast-battery-drain-problem/
Hope these guides will help you
The problem is ...because of the device used to be root although we flash original stock firmware it is still drain when device idle ...you can take a look in Android OS and see stay awake period ...one way is flash custom room that said deep sleep fix . Hope this comment could deal your problem

Something is messing my battery up.

While using Twitter or any app, my battery goes down at least 4-5%. I can't get decent battery on this.
I have the Verizon edition.
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Seriously? No one?
I posted the pictures. Any ideas?
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I posted the pictures. Any ideas?
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After charging the phone i think in all editions you need to reboot in order to stop the battery drain try it and tell us. It is like a "bug " on current firmware
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After charging the phone i think in all editions you need to reboot in order to stop the battery drain try it and tell us. It is like a "bug " on current firmware
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I will charge it and reboot it. I will tell you tomorrow!
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After charging the phone i think in all editions you need to reboot in order to stop the battery drain try it and tell us. It is like a "bug " on current firmware
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So far, it went down about 3% from using Twitter for about 3 minutes...
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So far, it went down about 3% from using Twitter for about 3 minutes...
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The bug i told you is from android system battery drain
twitter and also facebook are battery non friendly....
i personally deactivate facebook and twitter with package disabler pro when i dont use them.
post your android systems battery stats
you had 25 mine is between 15-18
is your phone band new ? if yes maybe you need to let the battery make some charging circles
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The bug i told you is from android system battery drain
twitter and also facebook are battery non friendly....
i personally deactivate facebook and twitter with package disabler pro when i dont use them.
post your android systems battery stats
you had 25 mine is between 15-18
is your phone band new ? if yes maybe you need to let the battery make some charging circles
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It is pretty new. I didn't think that would effect anything. I guess I will let it have some cycles then.
I have some ideas that might be able to get the problem solved. I would first try turning off your phone for 5-10 minutes since it might be overheating. Then I would uninstall any new apps that you might have installed since you can remember the battery drain starting. There is a small chance you might be experiencing some battery drain issues from a third party app that caused a virus. Its also a good idea to get a security app like avg since its free. Other then that you might also want to check that your phone is not completely full on storage, and also consider turning off the facebook app since it can cause some serious battery drain issues as well. I think thats pretty much it if you want to get rid of facebook on your galaxy s7 here is how to do it. and it will really help with your battery life
I had the same kind of battery drain on my Sprint variant. A factory reset quickly fixed that issue for me.
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I had the same kind of battery drain on my Sprint variant. A factory reset quickly fixed that issue for me.
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So I used it up for a day and let it die completely. Charged it right back up and now its pretty bad today. These are screenshots from when I made it die.
I did disable Facebook. The Android System and Screen are using the most up right now. It went down about 7% for being almost idle. I used Twitter once.
Possible Solution to the DRAIN!
Ok, so I've had the same issues as you. My findings are as per Gsam Battery Monitor:
1. High Android OS and Android System usage~ 20-30%
2. High Phone Radio ~ 40% at times
3. Overnight drain of at least 4% (stanbby drain)
4. Screen usage 'while off' higher than 'while on'
This was frustrating and is as mentioned by other users to be a bug from updates and related to charging.
SOLUTION:
Today Gsam reports my Android OS and Android System usage and Phone Radio at 10% and below.
All i did was...
1. Let it drain to about 90% after charge.
2. Restart the phone.
3. Then plug in the micro USB to USB connector (the one that comes with the phone) with a flash drive attached and play a song/short video.
4. Unplug and enjoy great battery life.
This worked for me so it's worth a try. Will test a full charge soon and hopefully it doesn't require the steps above every time to stop the drain.
btw I'm NOT rooted, using LTE.........wifi,bluetooth, AOD and locations all off.

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