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Dynamic/Smart playlists in WMP on Mobile (or on an alternative player)

Hi everyone,
As you know WMP has an "Auto playlist" option that lets you create playlists on a set of rules. However, when it syncs it to the WMP mobile, they turn to regular playlists.
E.g if I have a playlist that is "Not played in last 5 days" and I play some songs from it on the WMP Mobile, all the songs will still be there. Is there a way for truly dynamic playlist on WMP Mobile? If not, what other player you know that supports this feature?
Thanks!

I'd love this feature as a way to create a playlist that stays filled with the latest podcasts downloaded from RSS Hub -- and ideally that deletes the ones I've listened to. Any suggestions?

Yeah I've been really disappointed with the media player features as well as the alternative media players in winmo. I hate having to carry my earbuds as well as a jabra bluetooth dongle, so I've switched back to carrying both an ipod and my phone. I'd pay $100 for a decent player with similar features to my ipod touch or my wife's zune.

Conduits Pocket Player. All you'll ever need, including dynamic playlists.

Robrecht said:
Conduits Pocket Player. All you'll ever need, including dynamic playlists.
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I'll try that out; looks like it has a 30-day trial. I've been playing with Mortplayer, and it does at least some of what I'm looking for, for free.

Pocket Player's finger-friendly library is great: it has smooth flick scrolling, handles large libraries (2000+ tracks) effortlessly and is very customizable. Hope you like it too.

Try out Kinoma's Player. Not sure if this one does what you're trying to do, but there is a free version and so far in my use of it, is ridiculously cool. Also supports Orb.com and other streaming content providers, has RSS podcasts that will stream in (not sure if there's a way to download them to the device, again, haven't been using it very long).
http://kinoma.com/freeplay/download/

I've been playing with the Conduits Pocket Player trial and the Kimona FreePlay, which is a crippled version of the full Kimona Player. It's hard to compare them, because Pocket Player is a 30-day trial of the full version, whereas all of the relevant features are turned off in Kimona's free version.
Pocket Player does everything I need. It's great.
Kimona FreePlay's interface, though, is fantastic. If the full version does everything Pocket Player does -- dynamic smart playlists, especially -- it would probably be better than Pocket Player.
(I listen to podcasts on my 30-minute drive to work. Pocket Player has a smart playlist called "recently added", which stays full of various podcasts I subscribe to through RSS Hub -- which is great for one-tap skipping ahead and so forth while I'm driving).

A year has passed.
Has anyone come up with something less clunky for Windows Mobile smart playlists of podcasts (automatically or on demand download new episodes, add to playlist and delete old episodes) than using having to deal with using 2 different apps?
Seems like a really common request that's being ignored for Windows Mobile while good apps are made for Andorid, Blackberry and iPhone.
Even Stitcher.com has elected to make apps for every major smartphone OS except Windows Mobile.

Best free program for music syncing

I'm wondering what is the best free program out there for syncing music with a WinMo device.

on windows i just use windows media player, gets the job done quick and easy.

Just started using WinAmp myself. I can set prefered conversion formats etc. Take a look if you're looking to something different to WMP.

I use itune and to sync itune playlists with my wm device I use itune agent it's free
there is also a prog called salling but I pref the opensource itune agent

Why is it so hard to find a decent music player?

It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.

mwxiao said:
It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.

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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.

I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.

Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.

I feel your pain; I've had trouble finding a music player I really liked too. As of now, I'm just using the stock Samsung Music Player.
...which actually isn't that bad. It works well enough and the 5.1 feature is awesome.

check doubletwist. very good GUI and has itunes compatibility but I have not used that personally

DoubleTwist is a good music player and can export your playlists from itunes. They syncing is a bit slow tho.

I really had a hard time with doubletwist, and it took forever to start up on the pc.
I would recommend 'Songbird' on the desktop. It's built on top of a Mozilla Firefox framework, has great plug-ins and extensions, and via MTP can sync playlists with M3Us to the captivate, and then mixzing as the player on the captivate.

noidd said:
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
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Thanks a lot. The Android music player is much better than the Samsung one. Though I have a few bugs for just 10 min of try. Well, it's actually not a big of a deal. Playlist works fine, album art works fine. And that's all I am asking for.

closeshave2 said:
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
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+1 on this app, you can use the stock samsung player, and double twist recongizes the playlists as well. it was much easier and faster on my computer as well. syching around 6 gigs of music only took around 15 mintues as opposed to over 2 hours with double twist.

ANOTHER good and easy to use apps is called "itunes agent". All you have to do is plug in the phone as USB drive and use it to sync you songs. Check it out. I use it for my WinMo phone and it is probably one of the best tool for sync songs to my phne.

mwxiao said:
Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
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I had all my music in iTunes (many files were AAC - ripped that way before i knew better) and I learned the hardway that iTunes some funky things. I actually used MP3tag to fix the tags - lots of Android phones don't like the tags if some fields are empty - this has the effect of showing uknown artist and maybe empty album art. iTunes added some funky stuff to some of the tags, so once i got it all cleaned up and made sure the album artwork was embedded in the tags all was good.
As for playlists - you could try Samsung Kies - it does sync with the phone and allows you to make playlists. I have not tried it for syncing yet.

[Q] Is there any way to sync podcasts in itunes?

I have used doubletwist to sync music in itunes. Unfortunately, doubletwist could not let me sync podcasts in itunes, although it has a feature to subscribe podcast, but I really don't want to subscribe all my podcast in doubletwist again.
The only thing I can figure out is that, maybe I can use some software to sync the podcast folder, but doubletwsit seems doesn't have the feature to sync specific folder.
So, Do you guys have any suggestion? Thanks!

No one knows?

I've been searching for the past few days on this to find no real elegant solution. The closest I've found is drivecast. I've been managing the podcast subscriptions and those are synced to my android. But there is no resume feature when playing from the web interface and resuming on the android.
Supposedly doubletwist does this for PC but I'm on mac and they haven't added podcast subscription support for mac yet...
I'll post back if I find anything better.

Best way to manage music?

Anyone know a good way to manage music with a g2x??
I have well over 2k songs on my itunes. I have them all on my g2x, but it seems to have a poor music managing system.
Songs/Artists/Playlists are duplicated many times, playlists duplicate the songs within them sometimes, etc.
I'm wondering if theres a good software to manage the music on my phone?
Something comparable to itunes preferrably
I just want to be able to make playlists on my computer without them duplicating on my phone.
I've tried doubletwist, itunesagent (which doesn't copy playlists), and even winamp.

i'm just using Google Play

I'm just using Google Play Music as well and transfer my files via mass storage. Now I use the cloud for Google Play Music and just keep a few albums on my SD card. I have no problems with duplicates or any other issues.

You have to get a tag editor and
Make sure there filled out right... iTunes fixes them but the music players don't.
Sent from my LG G2x using Tapatalk 2

Kplaylist + MediaMonkey + Google Play
All my music is on an a private web server that can stream all my music. I stopped using iTunes a long time ago, but all my music is on this web server.
http://www.kplaylist.net/
If you can setup an Apache Service with PHP, you will love this app. Its the only thing I use and get my music anywhere.
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MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/
I only use this to update the ID Tags of all my songs and add the album picture from the web. Its a bit tricky, but what I do is, when I decide I want to add and album to Google Play I tag and add the picture album then upload them.
I have like 40 gigs of music, and slowly have converted to Google play. I fix the tags and albums as I go. Its worked so far
Sometimes the picture or the album name comes out wrong, have to re-upload or manually correct it once its inside Google. It happens sometimes, especially if mediamonkey can't find the rare song online.
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Google Play
If done right, all the songs will be properly tagged and the album picture inside. Its running better now then when it was called (Google Music). Used to crash alot. The only decision you have is "Make available Offline"
In the end, when its nicely organized, I use Google Play way way more.

yoo992 said:
I've tried doubletwist, itunesagent (which doesn't copy playlists), and even winamp.
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I've been using Doubletwist and it copies my playlist from itunes just fine

I use Banshee Media Player. I have it set up to sync one specific playlist. It works in one-click and it even converts my FLAC files on the fly to V9 mp3! Even better, even though I have it set to sync one playlist, it keeps track of which tracks belong to other playlists too. I use it on Ubuntu but I think the sync options work on Windows too.
Edit: It also keeps my media tagged, downloads album art and sorts the files into an [Artist]>[Album] folder structure.