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I really love my Inspire, especially w/ Honeyogen installed. But the problem of viewing the screen in direct sunlight is a major problem for me, one that I cant seem to find a soultion for.
Ive tried different screen covers & different ROMs & even different Kernals, yet the Inspires Slcd screen is still terrible in direct sunlight, as all I see is my reflection.
My question is this... is there anyway to hack the screen to increase the brightness beyond the "normal" or "stock" brightness levels?
I would think that if developers can hack volume levels for the external speaker & also freq values for overclocking the cpu, that the same could be possible for the screen brightness!?
Thanks, i appreciate your thoughts!
jaw2012 said:
I really love my Inspire, especially w/ Honeyogen installed. But the problem of viewing the screen in direct sunlight is a major problem for me, one that I cant seem to find a soultion for.
Ive tried different screen covers & different ROMs & even different Kernals, yet the Inspires Slcd screen is still terrible in direct sunlight, as all I see is my reflection.
My question is this... is there anyway to hack the screen to increase the brightness beyond the "normal" or "stock" brightness levels?
I would think that if developers can hack volume levels for the external speaker & also freq values for overclocking the cpu, that the same could be possible for the screen brightness!?
Thanks, i appreciate your thoughts!
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Thank you for this question. I am interested in a solution to this as well.
is your screen on auto brightness? take it off and adjust yourself. it will adjust to light depending on how much and how little you get.
If your rom is cm7 base go to menu, settings,cyanogenmod settings,display, automatic backlight,scroll down to light levels,check use custom, other levels, (this is what I do) change 1st 3 screen profiles from 41 to 61, 61 to 81, 81 to 101, then hit save and apply. The higher the # the brighter the screen. Those settings are pretty good on battery and definitely helps on making the screen more viewable outside and in bright rooms. Hour this helps
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Thanks for trying, but of course I've set my brightness levels myself. Auto-brightness doesn't do it for me.
I'm just surprised that there aren't hacks for screen brightness. Just as speakers levels & the CPU are governed to a certain threshold in stock configs, I would think the screen is governed and has much higher brightness levels it can go beyond.
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If your rom is cm7 base go to menu, settings,cyanogenmod settings,display, automatic backlight,scroll down to light levels,check use custom, other levels, (this is what I do) change 1st 3 screen profiles from 41 to 61, 61 to 81, 81 to 101, then hit save and apply. The higher the # the brighter the screen. Those settings are pretty good on battery and definitely helps on making the screen more viewable outside and in bright rooms. Hour this helps
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Yes, my ROM is CM7 based. But I assume these custom levels are for the Auto-Brightness mode?
Also, where exactly do I make these changes? Because the "screen" values are already at 41, 61, 81, 112 and so forth. So I assume these values have been changed by my ROM developer or are they CM7 defaults? Or do I have it all wrong? LOL. Thanks again.
daddioj said:
is your screen on auto brightness? take it off and adjust yourself. it will adjust to light depending on how much and how little you get.
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Thanks for trying, but of course I've set my brightness levels myself. Auto-brightness doesn't do it for me.
I'm just surprised that there aren't hacks for screen brightness. Just as speakers levels & the CPU are governed to a certain threshold in stock configs, I would think the screen is governed and has much higher brightness levels it can go beyond.
Yes, this is for auto brightness. You do have the correct defaults. I bumped the first 3 profiles up by 20 and screen is brighter at lower levels.
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also would like to know if there is any way to do this! bump!!!!
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Yes, this is for auto brightness. You do have the correct defaults. I bumped the first 3 profiles up by 20 and screen is brighter at lower levels.
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Ok, but my question is does this actually make the screen any brighter than the highest stock brightness level?
Or does this just change the values, so that the lower values are brighter, but no brighter than the stock highest level?
no brighter than brightest stock value
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So why can you developers increase & hack the speaker and the CPU values and MAX out their potential, yet the screen's potential is wasted and we are stuck with dark screens that can't be seen very well outdoors?
It doesn't make sense to me. The screen backlight must have more potential, they don't push ANY hardware to it's max in stock configurations.
Come on developers, we need you again!
FALSE - juice defender's ultimate (maybe even pro) app can adjust it higher than the 100% brightness value. Only problem with this is that you have to let it control your brightness settings, but there's a bug that doesn't allow you to install apk's manually - so you have to disable the brightness while you install apks (or you could just install through adb lol). so yes, there is a way.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&feature=search_result
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FALSE - juice defender's ultimate (maybe even pro) app can adjust it higher than the 100% brightness value. Only problem with this is that you have to let it control your brightness settings, but there's a bug that doesn't allow you to install apk's manually - so you have to disable the brightness while you install apks (or you could just install through adb lol). so yes, there is a way.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&feature=search_result
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Thanks! Didn't know this.
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nhshah7 said:
FALSE - juice defender's ultimate (maybe even pro) app can adjust it higher than the 100% brightness value. Only problem with this is that you have to let it control your brightness settings, but there's a bug that doesn't allow you to install apk's manually - so you have to disable the brightness while you install apks (or you could just install through adb lol). so yes, there is a way.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.ultimatejuice&feature=search_result
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Um no Juicedefender does'nt raise the screen brightness ANY higher than you normally can w/ the stock brightness slider. All that does is mess with the Auto-Brightness settings.
Alot of people seem to get the Auto-Brightness settings confused with what I am asking. I want to be able to raise the brightness beyond the MANUAL brightness slider. If you raise the auto-brightness setting, your STILL limited to the max value that's on the manual brightness slider. I want THAT manual setting to be pushed beyond the normal "stock" value, which I guess is impossible......can't understand why when almost every other hardware is hacked to allow better performance.
jaw2012 said:
Um no Juicedefender does'nt raise the screen brightness ANY higher than you normally can w/ the stock brightness slider. All that does is mess with the Auto-Brightness settings.
Alot of people seem to get the Auto-Brightness settings confused with what I am asking. I want to be able to raise the brightness beyond the MANUAL brightness slider. If you raise the auto-brightness setting, your STILL limited to the max value that's on the manual brightness slider. I want THAT manual setting to be pushed beyond the normal "stock" value, which I guess is impossible......can't understand why when almost every other hardware is hacked to allow better performance.
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Okay sorry just looked at juice defender again. It allows you to only change the shape of the brightness curve. As for forcing a brighter screen level I'm blank on that. Have you manually set it to 100% and its still. Not bright enough?
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You cant overclock the values of your android hardware "screen" for brightness and dimness since it can only work properly on a given threshold hence any more than that is negligible.
CM7 is a great ROM but for me, Sense roms have more advantages on the evo. One of the advantages of CM7 is the ability to completely customize the auto brightness function. When I ran CM7 nightlies I spent about an hour dimming the lights to program it perfectly. When you're in a dark room you don't want to pull your phone out of your pocket and blind everyone around you. When you're out in the sun, you want to be able to actually see the screen. Unfortunately, it seems like the sense auto brightness does a horrible job of getting the phone really dim in the dark and doesn't react quick enough in the sun. There are so many widgets out there for people to quickly adjust their screen brightness because the auto isn't good enough. This is ridiculous! The evo 4G is capable of having the perfect auto-brightness. We shouldn't have to be stumbling to click on a widget to self adjust the brightness.
I've searched all over the interwebs and nothing like this exists for non-CM7 Android devices. Someone please either port the CM7 auto brightness customization settings or create an app!!! Something similar to the old school Lumens app from Windows Mobile. You would be a hero to many.
Also, I would love to do this but I have zero programming skills.
I created an app that does this exactly (it's in beta at the moment):
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vito.lux
How well it performs depends on how good the light sensor on your device is. The app does have data filtering to try and get better readings from bad sensors, though.
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CM7 is a great ROM but for me, Sense roms have more advantages on the evo. One of the advantages of CM7 is the ability to completely customize the auto brightness function. When I ran CM7 nightlies I spent about an hour dimming the lights to program it perfectly. When you're in a dark room you don't want to pull your phone out of your pocket and blind everyone around you. When you're out in the sun, you want to be able to actually see the screen. Unfortunately, it seems like the sense auto brightness does a horrible job of getting the phone really dim in the dark and doesn't react quick enough in the sun. There are so many widgets out there for people to quickly adjust their screen brightness because the auto isn't good enough. This is ridiculous! The evo 4G is capable of having the perfect auto-brightness. We shouldn't have to be stumbling to click on a widget to self adjust the brightness.
I've searched all over the interwebs and nothing like this exists for non-CM7 Android devices. Someone please either port the CM7 auto brightness customization settings or create an app!!! Something similar to the old school Lumens app from Windows Mobile. You would be a hero to many.
Also, I would love to do this but I have zero programming skills.
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Just installed CM7.1.0 and haven't yet found all the settings but stumbled upon some good ones already. A brightness one would be great because I would LOVE for my phone to go brighter in direct sunlight and dimmer in controlled areas and in the dark. I want to tweak mine as you described. Is this in the Cyanogenmod settings within the Menu->Settings menu or is it somewhere else?
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Just installed CM7.1.0 and haven't yet found all the settings but stumbled upon some good ones already. A brightness one would be great because I would LOVE for my phone to go brighter in direct sunlight and dimmer in controlled areas and in the dark. I want to tweak mine as you described. Is this in the Cyanogenmod settings within the Menu->Settings menu or is it somewhere else?
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If I remember correctly, it is something like... Menu-> Settings-> Cyanogenmod Settings-> Display
It's in there somewhere!
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If I remember correctly, it is something like... Menu-> Settings-> Cyanogenmod Settings-> Display
It's in there somewhere!
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Yeah, and look for auto, and 'other' there is awesome control in there. You can even control how bright your capacitive buttons light up, and what level of light they respond to.
Really nice feature.
To the poster who is working on this, I'll def be having a look. Thanks.
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Hi!
We all know that Motorola changed the brightness settings in 2.2.2 so the screen is on 100% less bright then on 2.1 (eclair).
The same thing is on CM7.1 which I use.
So my question is, is there any way to "over"bright Defy-s screen? Or a way to use eclair screen brightness settings on CM7? I need more brightness, that's why I'm asking
Please reply, mihovil13.
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Enviado desde mi Motorola DEFY®.
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I would greatly appreciate this if it can b done.
Anyone knows how?
I must say, I have not noticed a decrease in brightness at all.. Is there some proof? Did someone measure the strength, in lumen for instance?
My Defy shipped with froyo so idk about 2.1 but when i toggle brightness settings auto seemes to go just a little higher then full brightness for a sec so it does seem possible but i have no idea how. BTW im using CM7
mussio said:
My Defy shipped with froyo so idk about 2.1 but when i toggle brightness settings auto seemes to go just a little higher then full brightness for a sec so it does seem possible but i have no idea how. BTW im using CM7
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Activate automatic brightness and edit the brightness levels to give full brightness (255) earlier or for all levels. The Motorola kernel enables a different brightness scaling (exponential instead of linear) when using the light sensor for whatever reason, which allows a higher total brightness as a side effect.
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Still didn't manage to do this...
I've measured, on CM7.1 Ep3 rls max brightness is equal to 70% brightness on official 2.2.2 or 2.3.6
maniac103 said:
Activate automatic brightness and edit the brightness levels to give full brightness (255) earlier or for all levels. The Motorola kernel enables a different brightness scaling (exponential instead of linear) when using the light sensor for whatever reason, which allows a higher total brightness as a side effect.
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Ah that explains! I use a toggle to easily switch between auto and 100% brightness because in some circumstances the screen is hard to read (most notably when standing in the shade but close to an area with bright sunlight). I always noticed the difference in max brightness between both modes and apparently it has some mathematical reason.
Use search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063310
If any of you other users out there feel that the whites on this thing are too awesome for super late at night like I do, I found a app when searching for a f.lux type alternative for android. I have been using this app to help ease the stress on my eye late at night. I dont know about the techical side of what it does, or any of the jargon involved, but it applies a filter of sorts to dim the screen further than what the phone allows. I been using it a lot lately and figure I would share with you guys. If anyone has any recommendations for other similar apps, please share.
Tl:dr
Screen Filter
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.haxor
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enomele said:
If any of you other users out there feel that the whites on this thing are too awesome for super late at night like I do, I found a app when searching for a f.lux type alternative for android. I have been using this app to help ease the stress on my eye late at night. I dont know about the techical side of what it does, or any of the jargon involved, but it applies a filter of sorts to dim the screen further than what the phone allows. I been using it a lot lately and figure I would share with you guys. If anyone has any recommendations for other similar apps, please share.
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Screen Filter
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.haxor
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Or just turn on "Background Color" in Power Saving Settings.
Or if you want the screen brightness itself to be lower than what most ROMs allow, you can use this app called RootDim. It worked amazing on my xoom, not sure if it works on the SGSIII yet..
It requires root though..
yosterwp said:
Or if you want the screen brightness itself to be lower than what most ROMs allow, you can use this app called RootDim. It worked amazing on my xoom, not sure if it works on the SGSIII yet..
It requires root though..
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Screen filter does the same and doesn't require root. On our AMOLED screens this can save battery.
Also you can turn off those damn capacitive key lights by going to Settings>display>"touch Key light duration"> Always off.
I can confirm that Root dim does work for the SGS3 I use it on my phone.
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Lux is an amazing auto brightness app and setting it up for your tastes is incredibly simple.
Go out in the sun and turn brightness up all the way using the app then "link" that setting, go in complete darkness and set it to your taste and link it, then indoor lighting, set it, link it. It then uses just those 3 settings to create a smooth graph of brightness values that are all perfect. You can have as many links as you want but i find the less settings you put in that app the better.
I tried all the suggested ones in here btw.
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I've tried and really like Lux (in fact I'm considering purchasing it soon) but I've noticed two issues. First is that sometimes it will not refresh itself and I have to open up the lux dash to get the brightness to change. It doesn't happen often, but it happens often enough to be annoying, and I have it set to automatically.
Also, (and this may simply be an issue with the S3 and not lux itself) but sometimes I will be in a decently lit room and be at 1 lux, while lights out is 0. Not a lot of variance unless it's really bright outside. Have you found anyway to increase the light sensors sensitivity?
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I've tried and really like Lux (in fact I'm considering purchasing it soon) but I've noticed two issues. First is that sometimes it will not refresh itself and I have to open up the lux dash to get the brightness to change. It doesn't happen often, but it happens often enough to be annoying, and I have it set to automatically.
Also, (and this may simply be an issue with the S3 and not lux itself) but sometimes I will be in a decently lit room and be at 1 lux, while lights out is 0. Not a lot of variance unless it's really bright outside. Have you found anyway to increase the light sensors sensitivity?
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Try setting it to be always active in the task bar, that prevents it from being killed. Also try setting it to not use raw values for light sensor readings, this gives you a simple scale of 0-10 for readings and total darkness always reads as 0.
Edit: oops reread your post. That's weird that it is reading indoor light at 1. I usually get around 2 or 3. I used to have a screen protector on that covered the light sensor and that put it all over the place. Maybe that is what's causing it?
noingwhat said:
I've tried and really like Lux (in fact I'm considering purchasing it soon) but I've noticed two issues. First is that sometimes it will not refresh itself and I have to open up the lux dash to get the brightness to change. It doesn't happen often, but it happens often enough to be annoying, and I have it set to automatically.
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I noticed the same behavior with the free version. In my case, the lowest value the HTC Desire S can reach with its default Android auto brightness is in fact about 15%.
In LUX settings you can configure the "0" value to be lower and "bypass" the freeware limitation (you can't configure sub-zero levels in the free version). This will work when you test it in the dashboard, but during regular use the light level never goes below the 15% limit already set by the OS.
What I did was purchase the full version (to get astronomer mode along with all the settings unlocked) so I was able to leave the 0 level at its default 15% but link some light intensity values to sub-zero percentages. Guess what? It works great! Once you go into a very dark room, the display dims as far as you set it to.
Another problem with the free version was that a few times I unlocked the phone outside in full sunlight and LUX did not increase the brightness. It appeared almost completely black because the light level was at about 15-25% (the same level it would be inside a low lit room).
Again, with the full version I did not notice this problem (I've used the free version for 1 day and the paid version for 1 day but running tests in different light levels inside and outside).
It's like the free version is a bit buggy on purpose, and I remember uninstalling LUX free about 2 months because of this; I was thinking that if the free version does not work OK, I shouldn't buy the full version. Apparently this is not the case (touch wood).
Just for the record, it's on "dynamically adjust".
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Also, (and this may simply be an issue with the S3 and not lux itself) but sometimes I will be in a decently lit room and be at 1 lux, while lights out is 0. Not a lot of variance unless it's really bright outside. Have you found anyway to increase the light sensors sensitivity?
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If the display is a bit dirty (oily, dusty, etc) around the light sensor, you can try to clean it. If this is not the case, open the dashboard, let it determine the light level or hit "auto" a few times and make sure the reading is correct. Then just slide your finger along the yellow line to find the appropriate brightness level and long press the chain to link. Go to a brighter lit room then go back to the first room and see how LUX behaves. Also lock/unlock the phone a few times and see how it goes.
If you still have problems running LUX, disable it and check the default Android auto brightness to make sure it's not a sensor issue.
LUX also has the possibility to set the response delay under Settings -> Advanced -> Developer Settings (the last to just on the bottom, but for this you would need to buy the full version.
Inginerul said:
If the display is a bit dirty (oily, dusty, etc) around the light sensor, you can try to clean it. If this is not the case, open the dashboard, let it determine the light level or hit "auto" a few times and make sure the reading is correct. Then just slide your finger along the yellow line to find the appropriate brightness level and long press the chain to link. Go to a brighter lit room then go back to the first room and see how LUX behaves. Also lock/unlock the phone a few times and see how it goes.
If you still have problems running LUX, disable it and check the default Android auto brightness to make sure it's not a sensor issue.
LUX also has the possibility to set the response delay under Settings -> Advanced -> Developer Settings (the last to just on the bottom, but for this you would need to buy the full version.
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Thanks, but I think it is more of an issue of the sensor not being sensitive enough. I'm not sure if this is anything you can change in lux or if it would have to be edited in the kernel (or if it is fault of the hardware) but I just feel like the sensor doesn't go down low enough. As I said, I can get down to 1 or 0 in a decently lit room, and yes I have tried cleaning the screen. It's not like it jumps around or anything so it's not like I would notice anything in default auto brightness, it's just that it doesn't seem to be sensitive enough.
Screen filter is great!! I use as well!!!
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Well for my Desire S, the lowest light level that the sensor can read is 160 lux (raw value). You can try and set LUX to use raw values because this is more accurate in my oppinion.
Another +1 for Screen filter here
Does anyone know how to use "luma" values for automatic adjustment in Lux instead of "lux" values?
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Does anyone know how to use "luma" values for automatic adjustment in Lux instead of "lux" values?
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What I have noticed on my phone is that "luma" readings are taken from the front facing camera, while "lux" readings are taken from the ambient light sensor (you can chose which one to use in the settings).
I suppose the front facing camera uses more battery than the light sensor; it also appears to be more sensitive because it can read more light levels.
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What I have noticed on my phone is that "luma" readings are taken from the front facing camera, while "lux" readings are taken from the ambient light sensor (you can chose which one to use in the settings).
I suppose the front facing camera uses more battery than the light sensor; it also appears to be more sensitive because it can read more light levels.
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I guess so. Thanks! But doesn't that kinda defeat the whole purpose of Lux? Because you can't use automatic mode with the camera(s).... so then what's it good for?
Well even if you don't have an ambient light sensor, you can still use the camera to check the light level when you unlock the phone and let LUX adjust the brightness level. Of course it's not dynamic but it's still better than having the brightness at 50% the whole time or changing brightness levels through a widget..
What am i missing regarding screen auto brightness? I keep having to manually change brightness when going from light to dark places even though i have "adapt to lighting conditions" ticked?
It feels like im wasting battery having the screen so bright at night unless i turn it down, then I have to turn it up again in the morning.. Some secret setting?
jeremy_inc said:
What am i missing regarding screen auto brightness? I keep having to manually change brightness when going from light to dark places even though i have "adapt to lighting conditions" ticked?
It feels like im wasting battery having the screen so bright at night unless i turn it down, then I have to turn it up again in the morning.. Some secret setting?
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Same here, Someone said that the screen does dim but it does so slowly so you barely notice it! Hoever iam not convinced! Iam almost certain mine is not adjusting at all
For normal day light conditions i feel the auto brightness adjusts very well. Its definitely better than the s4 i had. I have the auto brightness selected and the bar at 50%. I agree for night time reading i have to manually adjust the brightness may be its not as quick to adjust in very low light conditions compared to day light
I was using CM11 on the S4 which had very good brightness control, not sure about standard. I agree during the day I don't have problems at all, and the screen is very good. It's just when I'm somewhere with low brightness and I have to turn it down, and then when I go back into day I have to turn it back up again. Pretty annoying having to change it all the time.
I will get an app to do it for me for now, but this must be some sort of bug this action couldn't be on purpose.
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I find the auto brightness not very good.
Sometimes when the lighting condition does not change, it will start to increase/decrease the brightness to the level which does not suit the lighting condition.
It also have the tendency to favor lower brightness.
Thinking of trying out Lux Auto Brightness instead.
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I don't know if you mean to test the sensor, but the sensor works absolutely fine (with other apps)
My auto brightness works just fine and i have mine on lowest possible setting.