How are people getting good battery life - Thunderbolt General

I have flashed numerous kernels some of which people claim to get 15 to 20 hours of battery life with 4g on. I still can't achive good battery life with moderate use every 4 minutes of use my battery life drops a percent.
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well for myself, I prefer the smartass governor, but not all kernels come set to use a governor that achieves battery life like that. They may come preset to ondemand, performance, etc. Some governors need to have profiles set to keep the clockspeed low while the screen is off. I am using adrenalynes 2.0 kernal still (haven't had time to flash his new one, will be doing that in a few) and Set to the smartass governor, I am at 22 hours, with 43% left, while running the tesla coil rom.
and oh, cause I love making people tell me it is a waste, I have a task killer set to auto kill every 30 mins...

When my phone isn't on, my battery stays up in the 90 s for about 2 hours... So on and so forth
When I use it its a different story
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Yes I am familiar with smartass and so on i've flashed so many kernels. It's seems like I get good battery life for a few like taking 2 hours to drop 5 percent with use but after a certain point it just drops quicker and quicker
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I like all the kernel tweeks, but the extended battery is great.

install current widget, and log your idle power draw readings over a few hours. that's the only way to see what your phone is doing with the battery. then i use system panel monitoring to see the highest used apps of CPU percentage, and deal with those accordingly.

thunderboltglass said:
Yes I am familiar with smartass and so on i've flashed so many kernels. It's seems like I get good battery life for a few like taking 2 hours to drop 5 percent with use but after a certain point it just drops quicker and quicker
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you make sure to bump charge your phone and then wipe battery stats everytime you flash a new rom?
i noticed CWM doesn't seem to wipe battery stats, so I went in and wiped them with root explorer myself. Renamed the file to batterystats.bin.back and rebooted and have had nothing but super perfect battery since.
/data/system/batterystats.bin

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So I assume that the batterystats.bin file is automatically rebuilt (new file) after you rename it? Do you have to restart the phone or anything? What about if I don't bump charge? Will this still help?

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So I assume that the batterystats.bin file is automatically rebuilt (new file) after you rename it? Do you have to restart the phone or anything? What about if I don't bump charge? Will this still help?
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A new file will be created when you reboot.
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Ya i've bump charged a few times do you have to do this everyday though
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Nevermin I see each time you flash
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I throw it in airplane mode if i'm not using it for a hour or 2, screen brightness on 20 while inside and 100 while outside and everything else is stock including the battery and i have no root, after 15hr since unplugged and having 3.5h of use i still had over 50% battery when i went to bed

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Battery meter sticks, really bad

My battery meter almost never goes down... started doing this after flashing BAMF remix, then i reflashed..no dice. Sometimes ill see it drop by 2-3 percent at a time.. sometimes 1%, after like 30 minutes or so, but with constant usage and 4G on this shouldn't be possible.. Could my voltages actually be getting me better battery?
Here is all I use, running Bamf CF 2.0 kernel (ignore my signature)
368 750
768 875
1024 1000
Also rebooting drains about 3-12% of battery at time... give or take.
Nikolai2.1 said:
My battery meter almost never goes down... started doing this after flashing BAMF remix, then i reflashed..no dice. Sometimes ill see it drop by 2-3 percent at a time.. sometimes 1%, after like 30 minutes or so, but with constant usage and 4G on this shouldn't be possible.. Could my voltages actually be getting me better battery?
Here is all I use, running Bamf CF 2.0 kernel (ignore my signature)
368 750
768 875
1024 1000
Also rebooting drains about 3-12% of battery at time... give or take.
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have you tried calibrating the battery?
Nikolai2.1 said:
My battery meter almost never goes down... started doing this after flashing BAMF remix, then i reflashed..no dice. Sometimes ill see it drop by 2-3 percent at a time.. sometimes 1%, after like 30 minutes or so, but with constant usage and 4G on this shouldn't be possible.. Could my voltages actually be getting me better battery?
Here is all I use, running Bamf CF 2.0 kernel (ignore my signature)
368 750
768 875
1024 1000
Also rebooting drains about 3-12% of battery at time... give or take.
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The same thing is happening to some people, including me, in this thread:
losing about 5-10% battery on reboot
Someone suggested bump charging and wiping battery stats, but that hasn't fixed the problem for me.
i've had similar problems with mine and my reboots usually drop me 5-10%,, which is rediculous!
I refuse to bump charge, and I have calibrated twice in the past two days
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I refuse to bump charge, and I have calibrated twice in the past two days
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Why would you refuse to bump charge?
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Yea I heard bump charging can hurt your battery if you do it to much or more than once and every time you flash a new rom and kernel battery stats get thrown off anyways for a couple of charges
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Why would you refuse to bump charge?
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Like Carycookie said, if you do it alot it will permanently shorten your battery life.
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carycooke said:
Yea I heard bump charging can hurt your battery if you do it to much or more than once and every time you flash a new rom and kernel battery stats get thrown off anyways for a couple of charges
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A couple? Week its been one since my last flash. But I'm charging right now.
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Heres what I do and it doesnt seem to drop percentage after reboot like that and read wierd or hang but when I flash a rom or kernel in CWR I clear battery stats like 3 times then charge phone completely with it off
I use imoseyens lean kernel and been very happy with battery performance and it reading right
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Heres what I do and it doesnt seem to drop percentage after reboot like that and read wierd or hang but when I flash a rom or kernel in CWR I clear battery stats like 3 times then charge phone completely with it off
I use imoseyens lean kernel and been very happy with battery performance and it reading right
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I don't think the kernel would cause it to read wrong..and I thought you were supposed to charge the phone fully before wiping it?
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When I reboot and lose 10% or so it seems to catch back up. If I look at the graph there will be a big drop from the reboot then it will seemingly use no power for the for a long time then continue to decrease at at normal rate.
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When I reboot and lose 10% or so it seems to catch back up. If I look at the graph there will be a big drop from the reboot then it will seemingly use no power for the for a long time then continue to decrease at at normal rate.
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My phone works now after a second full charge haha
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A couple of charges like I said yeaaaaaa
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At least you got it working correctly!
what i did to fix mine was wipe everything and go back to using virus rom until miui comes out
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what i did to fix mine was wipe everything and go back to using virus rom until miui comes out
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We shall be waiting quite a while for said rom..

Only 6 hours battery life

running das BAMF 1.7 and the lean kernel i am only getting 6 hours at best with what i would consider as light usage. when i am actually using the phone i get about 1% usage per minute. any ideas as to what is going wrong?
If you're on the standard battery then nothing is wrong, that is common.
What I do is keep my mobile network (4G) off as much as I can. My battery is a lot better when I do that.
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Yep, totally normal. I've just learned to live with it. Trying to get the co. to buy me an extended battery.
then how is it even possible to get 2 days
Icarusfixius said:
then how is it even possible to get 2 days
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Extended battery.
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Use wifi as much as possible. Shut off data when not using. Don't use 4G unless needed. Minimize screen on time. Turn off autosync. Switch to a different kernel, etc. Juice defender really helped me, also. Make sure you set your CPU to minimum when screen is off. Two days probably isn't realistically possible with the stock battery, but you can probably get more.
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I use juice defender and then also LTE on off and only run in 3G. I get easily 15 hours with 60% battery left
I'm not in a 4g area, I get about 12 hours with 3 or 4 hours of screen time. Stay on WiFi as much as possible. Try calibration the battery.
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Run bamf 2.0 on the latest imo kernel? I usually get about 10 to 18 hours on the stock battery depending on usage. 4G enabled 24/7.
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I can get great life when I have full bars on 4G, when I go to work I switch over to 3G and I get about 14 hours on standard battery
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Use wifi as much as possible. Shut off data when not using. Don't use 4G unless needed. Minimize screen on time. Turn off autosync. Switch to a different kernel, etc. Juice defender really helped me, also. Make sure you set your CPU to minimum when screen is off. Two days probably isn't realistically possible with the stock battery, but you can probably get more.
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I bought the extended battery on launch day since reading about the terrible battery. Its sad we have to do the above just to make it through a day.
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yeah i know two days inst realistic but i think 12-16 should be realistic tho, in some way or another, i just havent figure it out yet. on a side not my wifi doesnt work anymore it just says error
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yeah i know two days inst realistic but i think 12-16 should be realistic tho, in some way or another, i just havent figure it out yet. on a side not my wifi doesnt work anymore it just says error
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Sounds like an issue with the software, more specifically the kernal. Are you rooted and running a rom/kernal combo? If so, try reflashing. If that doesn't work, try a new combo.
I've found a happy medium that I can live with... getting anywhere between 10-16 hours with around ~2 hours of screen time.
Running bamf stripped 1.7 using its stock kernel with the smartass governor and underclocking to 368/245 when screen is off.

2.3.6 Kills the battery

Have not got around to calling samsung yet after complaining, but find that the battery dies a lot faster than before. I recently uninstalled juice defender to test and will reinstall under the new os to see if that had a effect. Any any ideas or clues to fix it?
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Did you re-calibrate your battery after the flash? Usually a good ideal, and it usually takes a few days for the took to settle in.
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pretty misleading title.. 2.3.6 has been a big jump up from the older leaks for me. To each their own. I would re-calibrate.
2.3.6 had given me great battery life. I would definitely calibrate your battery either through CWM or the battery calibration app. Almost always after a new flash my battery is horrible until I calibrate.
Another thing may be... I previously had Juice Defender in the past. I found that it seemed to kill my battery faster than without it. The way the android operating system is set it automatically helps save your battery life. Most running applications get moved to the background and are using very close to 0 battery. For anything that I do not want running constantly I use titanium backup and freeze. It works flawlessly.
I do not use anything such as juice defender or auto task killer and get about 44 hours out of my phone overclocked to 1.3 with moderate to high use. Let android do its thing and you will be better off IMO.
Juice defender does help when setup properly. I've gotten over 100 hours of battery life using JD - though I'm still on 2.3.5
thebaron512 said:
Have not got around to calling samsung yet after complaining, but find that the battery dies a lot faster than before. I recently uninstalled juice defender to test and will reinstall under the new os to see if that had a effect. Any any ideas or clues to fix it?
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Check your battery stats to see if there are any unnecessary programs or tasks that are killing your battery life by running all of the time. Something that you may have had set-up or syncing differently since you updated.
2.3.6 has been giving me great battery life, I am running stock KJ6 with KJ6 Voodoo-kernel, no UV or OC, no "battery saving apps" and I'm getting 12 to 14 hours with heavy use, 30+ hours with light use.
Check this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19178400&postcount=19
And the link on it...it explains how the SGS4G will automatically calibrate the battery under certain conditions, and how to go about it.
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Juice defender does help when setup properly. I've gotten over 100 hours of battery life using JD - though I'm still on 2.3.5
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Did you just say 100 hours?
thebaron512 said:
Have not got around to calling samsung yet after complaining, but find that the battery dies a lot faster than before. I recently uninstalled juice defender to test and will reinstall under the new os to see if that had a effect. Any any ideas or clues to fix it?
Thanks
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I never had a problem with the battery life before. On froyo it usually lasted all day with about 50% left.
On kj6 it lasts all day and about 70% is left at night.
I have no task managers installed and syncing with google, exchange, facebook, weather and couple other services.
How many here use Bluetooth? I usually use it quite a bit, but noticed that the new official kj6 uses an unusual amount of Bluetooth share (my battery life has dropped dramatically as a result).
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Did you just say 100 hours?
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yes I did.
I'm currently at 66 hours with 24% battery left. probably won't make it to 100 (4 days+) on this charge, but I have on more than one occasion.
I am a light user though, only some wifi browsing and wifi calling, along with regular calls, and maybe checking traffic every once in a while. I don't really use my phone for games or music.
oh, and I've never calibrated my battery or cleared the battery stats.
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yes I did.
I'm currently at 66 hours with 24% battery left. probably won't make it to 100 (4 days+) on this charge, but...
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Not that I dont believe you but I would like a screen shot. I have taken my phone just up to 24 hours...
+1 for a screen shot.
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Holy crap delivaredddd
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Wow is all I have to say. You sir have won the forum.
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LOL, how many intarnetz do I win?
but srsly, I think my battery may be a freak of nature.
curious what's your longest display time. I can let my phone sit idle for days but I can only get max 5 hours display.
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the battery is dieing quick because 1. needs colaberated, and 2, the iq agent KILLS that **** quick.
Either flash mine, or ravers rom which has it removed. More roms will be coming out that has it removed as well.
What files need to be removed to get rid of ciq? Also glad to see you're back on xda krylon.
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Lol. Mike, its funny how in every thread people doubt your battery life. You should post the pics as your sig
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Battery Usage

Sup guys,
I was curious to know while actually using your charge how fast does your device drain the battery. I know it can vary depending on what your doing (video streaming etc) but lets use web browsing as a example. Looks like I lose 1 percent every 3 mins. Does this sound normal?
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luis86dr said:
Sup guys,
I was curious to know while actually using your charge how fast does your device drain the battery. I know it can vary depending on what your doing (video streaming etc) but lets use web browsing as a example. Looks like I lose 1 percent every 3 mins. Does this sound normal?
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just having ur screen on for 3 straight min. could do that, let alone running a program lol.
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just having ur screen on for 3 straight min. could do that, let alone running a program lol.
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Lol figured that but wanted to see everyone's input on their battery use.
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Maybe when you post battery usage also include the time you had the screen on?
If anyone is wondering just hit "display" when you look at battery usage.
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Battery lasted 9 hours with 1 hour and 39 mins of the screen being on / while in use.
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Battery lasted 9 hours with 1 hour and 39 mins of the screen being on / while in use.
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to be honest thats not horrible, but i get double that usually. What has saved me battery life is AnTutu's Battery Saver, turning off google location, and using browser to log into facebook instead of the facebook apps.
Ill try that out
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to be honest thats not horrible, but i get double that usually. What has saved me battery life is AnTutu's Battery Saver, turning off google location, and using browser to log into facebook instead of the facebook apps.
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Last time I tried that it messed with my data connection and completely killed it to the point of wiping data...
You should be able to get 2-3hrs of screen on time per charge cycle. This is also dependent on what you are doing when the screen is on, and also how much your phone is doing with the screen off as well.
Which thing messed with ur data? The battery saver? I had that problem with other battery savers (juice defender, battery doctor) but no problem at all with AnTutus battery saver.
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Which thing messed with ur data? The battery saver? I had that problem with other battery savers (juice defender, battery doctor) but no problem at all with AnTutus battery saver.
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Antutu killed my data and the other ones worked fine. Now i don't use any and just manage stuff myself.
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I use antutu never had issues with data. Going to do a full restore and reflash a rom to see if I can get more battery life. Seems like I can't get past 9 hours with 2 hours of screen on time.
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Two hour train ride to NYC starting with a full charge finishes with 35-40% remaining.
Stock, rooted, debloated
All location services disabled
Bouncing 3g/4g
wifi disabled
Google music
web browsing in lieu of newspaper.
email polling disabled.
Display is by far biggest drain with music a distant second.
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Just curious but what govenor are you guys using? Been using smartassv2 and just switched to on demand. Wanted to test to see if it would help with battery.
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Just curious but what govenor are you guys using? Been using smartassv2 and just switched to on demand. Wanted to test to see if it would help with battery.
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I go 100MHz-800MHz conservative, and almost all my apps run smoothly. If something like an intensive game needs more juice i go 1.2GHz and smartassv2. Ondemand is junk don't use it.
EDIT: I just went 12 hours 29 mins from full to completely dead (powered off) with 2 hours 23 mins of screen on, much of that was heavy web browsing (lots of tabs on Opera) and gaming.
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I go 100MHz-800MHz conservative, and almost all my apps run smoothly. If something like an intensive game needs more juice i go 1.2GHz and smartassv2. Ondemand is junk don't use it.
EDIT: I just went 12 hours 29 mins from full to completely dead (powered off) with 2 hours 23 mins of screen on, much of that was heavy web browsing (lots of tabs on Opera) and gaming.
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what ROM you running?
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what ROM you running?
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Eclipse, the only mod I'm using is thunderbolt scripts.
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Eclipse, the only mod I'm using is thunderbolt scripts.
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going to try your setup. Any minor synchronized apps? Like weather for example.
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Interesting. I run TS1.4 w/ PBJ (no ext4) and I went through a number of settings and I could not get sav2 or sio to be lag free. The combination of ondemand and noop yields the best performance for me. Now if I happen to have 5 or more apps going then RAM becomes and issue and I have to march out w/ task killer.
I also 100/1200 for CPU settings, no volt modification.
Up until the latest google maps update last weekend, I have the sensor thingy killing my battery every few days, and that has seemed to clear up.
I also bought one of those extended batteries from ebay w/ 3500Mah and it is a beast (last 1.5 days easy), however a bad result of that is that it interferes w/ the BT and Wifi reception to the tune of -20db so it makes a marginal connection crap. It looks like the charge antenna is on the right, right next to the battery, and the beast sticking out is messing w/ the signal. I am going to try a few different materials over the battery to see if I can sort it out.
It is almost fearsome how quickly the stock battery drains...I mean if I am out work and going out until 3AM, no way it will last unless I use the beast.
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going to try your setup. Any minor synchronized apps? Like weather for example.
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Weather Channel, turned sync as low as possible to the point where there is nothing in my status bar and I go into the app to check it.
Friendcaster set on 1 hour updates.
Also no latitude!! Make sure you are signed out of latitude in Maps and never open that app. It updates your location to google which wakes the phone and stuff.

Battery life

This is probably one of the worst phones on battery life that I have ever had... No matter what I do, what tweaks I use of what rom I'm on... I always only get 7 to 8 hours of battery with 1 hr screen on time.
I honestly have no idea what to do... I'm so sick of it. Anybody have any suggestions?
Seriously?
I have been on my phone all day with a full charge and I still have about half the juice. I am on stock 4.0.4 ICS. The one that droidstyles has in his guide. The Rom that came with my phone sucked on battery. This Rom works great for some reason.
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What are your settings on? Post your settings (like screen, whether GPS is on, ect), a lot of times it has to do with your settings. I used to have so-so battery life but I tweaked some stuff in my settings and am very pleased with the phone.
Believe me, if you want bad, try the Droid Charge. Worst 4g phone I have ever had in terms of battery life.
This is on clean rom. Ignore the screen percentage, going down since this was a recently flashed rom.
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I have nothing running... Only thing that I actually did was run v6 and I am running kt kernel
I'm on pure motives rls7
I'll add a screen shot of my battery status tomorrow cause I just plugged in
I get 30 hours with 5 and a half hours screen time.
Idk why your battery life is so bad.
I have power save on, no vibration, and sync set to manual. That's about it. Battery life for me is amazing.
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Don't know if this problem could occur with different ROM's, but I had issues with a runaway process that kept showing up. Maybe try Developer Options -> Show CPU Usage. I noticed that one called gsiff_daemon kept showing up at the top and was making my battery drain extremely fast. Everyone on this forum said it was a common issue and that it wasn't a crucial file, therefore I should just change the name so it wouldn't get accessed.
On RLS7 and kt kernel? This kernel has capabilities for overclocking/underclocking & overvolting/undervolting. By default your min Mhz is set to 384. Go into ktweaker and lower it to 96, test your phone out with a scaled stress test (play store app for stress testing). Then you can also go into the extra settings of ktweaker and set the Mhz for when your screen is off in addition to the governor (many options of which some are powersaving labelled).
If you want to save more battery read the kernel's thread to see starting undervolting values and lower from there while testing your phones limits. More undervolted you are, the less battery your phone uses for that particular frequency.
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You obviously never had the thunderbolt, now that battery sucked. You have to let the rom settle in and your battery will improve. Usually for me the first day not so good after that everything is fine.
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You obviously never had the thunderbolt, now that battery sucked. You have to let the rom settle in and your battery will improve. Usually for me the first day not so good after that everything is fine.
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I had a Thunderbolt. Yep, now that was poor battery life.
My S3 gives me 12 hours if I use it heavily. Typically, at 16 hours, I still have 40% remaining. I leave WiFi, bluetooth, and GPS on 100% of the time.
As bad as your battery is, I would suspect that you have a poor radio signal.and the radios are cranking up the power to work. Try using WiFi or turning off mobile data for a while to get the LTE radio turned off.
man, i barely get 8 hours at times
PureLife90 said:
This is probably one of the worst phones on battery life that I have ever had... No matter what I do, what tweaks I use of what rom I'm on... I always only get 7 to 8 hours of battery with 1 hr screen on time.
I honestly have no idea what to do... I'm so sick of it. Anybody have any suggestions?
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Its not the phone.
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worwig said:
As bad as your battery is, I would suspect that you have a poor radio signal.and the radios are cranking up the power to work. Try using WiFi or turning off mobile data for a while to get the LTE radio turned off.
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This. For example, I have a 4g tower nearby at work, normally (4-5 bars). But sometimes it disappears, and I end up on a 1-2 bar 3g tower for the day. On those days, my battery life is around 8hrs max, barely using it. On good signal, even with crazy heavy usage (4hrs screen on and lots of 4g web browsing) I can get over 8 hours.
Signal strength has a LOT to do with battery life.
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I get amazing battery life. Stock battery too.
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Check your Google account sync - could be something in there is not syncing correctly. Settings / Accounts / Google.
I had this - Internet Sync was not working but kept trying burning CPU, network, and battery. Disabled the failing sync and all was better.
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Is it switching between 3 and 4g a lot? Constantly searching is rough on a battery.
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Wow. I've never gotten that bad of battery life. This thing is amazing on battery life!
Devices:
Samsung Galaxy S3 - stock JB leak
HTC Incredible - JB Inc RC3
Here is my battery life.
Sgs 3
Rom Wicked jb v1
Kernel stock
Uc 1.35
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I seriously doubt you guys are getting 7 plus hours of screen on time with the stock battery. If you are then you are charging it at some point.
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I seriously doubt you guys are getting 7 plus hours of screen on time with the stock battery. If you are then you are charging it at some point.
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I am using stock battery on stock jellybean leak and get 30+ hours with 5.5 to 7 hours screen on time you can see from the pics above that we are not charging. The bar would go UP at some point if we were.
I just have my phone set up the perfect way to get maximum battery life.
It's simple. I personally have nothing to gain from lying about something so silly as battery life.
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