[Q] Titanium Backup vs ROM Manager - General Questions and Answers

Pardon the noobiness
When you back up your ROM via the ROM manager, doesn't it back everything up including all your apps and account information? Is there a reason to also have Titanium Backup? Appreciate the tips, comments and advice.

The backup option in Rom Manager creates a complete system image. You can restore it at any time to return your phone, in it's entirety, to that exact state. If you flash a new ROM, that backup is no use to you as far as restoring settings and apps, which is where TB comes in.

If you flash a new ROM, that backup is no use to you as far as restoring settings and apps, which is where TB comes in.
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Cool thanks for the perspective!

I'm of the same mind as yiyu758 here. I have, and love TB, but it doesn't do everything. To do everything, you need both!

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[Q] Total n00b question about Nand backup

Alright, so I have been testing the waters with my HTC Magic over the last several weeks. I have it unlocked and rooted, updated radio, everything has been going quite well. A few weeks back, I settled on a ROM that seemed to work best for me, and I have installed plenty of apps, widgets, and I have the customization down to a T.
But I wish to continue trying out different ROM's. Who knows, I may find something I like even more! As a fallback though, I wish to preserve all the hard work I put into my current setup. I can't find anything definitive about exactly what a Nandroid backup does, but from what I can see, it is implied that it will save all apps, settings, etc. I'm just wondering if that's correct.
So let's I'm running Android 1.6, I do a Nandroid backup, and then I wipe everything and install a compatible Froyo ROM. Would I be able to restore the backup and have everything the same as before? Or, let's say I don't like the ROM, so I wish to return to the same one I'm currently running. When I restore the backup, will it look like I never changed anything at all? Will there be lost apps or settings, or possible broken apps??
Should sound pretty straightforward, but I just want to be 100% sure before I mess around. Thank you all very much
As far as apps & settings try titanium backup, the donate version offers a 1 click back up, comes in pretty handy if you do alot of flashing, there is a free version as well but you have to manually back your stuff up one at a time, which is a pain if you have alot of stuff, but free is free & it is always nice to try before you buy... My back up pro will accomplish the samething, but I prefer titanium as I feel it has a little better options. So nand backup for your roms & titanium for apps and data and you can go nuts flashing and trying out roms with relative ease... The only issues you may run into would be compatibility of apps going from 1.6 to 2+.
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Thank you very much for the quick response.
So let me get this straight. Nand only backs up my ROM, but nothing else? I need another app to backup apps/widgets? I will check out Titanium Backup.
Worst case scenerio, I used ShootMe to take screenshots of everything important
A nand backup/restore should get everything back to how it was. Titanium backup is handy for keeping your apps, settings, etc... When switching from rom to rom.
Here:
http://tinyurl.com/2e7p95o
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maxomus said:
A nand backup/restore should get everything back to how it was. Titanium backup is handy for keeping your apps, settings, etc... When switching from rom to rom.
Here:
http://tinyurl.com/2e7p95o
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Here is a link to the tutorial i wrote on Nandroid
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_backup_or_recover_via_Nandroid
I have a question about NANDROID
ez. I used the ROM: LeeDrOid_V1.9a on my HTC desire. I did a full backup NANDROID. now update the ROM to LeeDroid_v2.2a( this ROM is include a new kernel for overclock to 1113mhz), and do a restore my backup NANDROID.
IT seems everything comes back to V1.9a( I check in " software Information" shows software number is v1.9a, even the kernel is rollback too)
is it normal?
I want to use LeeDroid_v2.2a because it has new kernel for overclock to 1113mhz but I dont want to install all apps again. what should I do?

[Q] Please help me

My phone is about to be taken away (XPERIA X10) for a replacement in few days. I want to back up everything on it, not just the apps or settings. I want to back up the Android 2.2 which I have on it, all the apps in it with the settings.
I had 2.1, i have got everything ready, such xrecovery and etc.
Could you tell me a way I could also backup my root files (not the sd files).
Thanks
does any one know what I could use
Is your phone rooted? If so, you should use Titanium Backup. You have the ability to backup all your system files and data files. However, keep in mind that when you restore system files, they will need to be restored on the same version of Android that you had on your original phone. If not, you can have many conflicts on restore.
If your phone isn't rooted, there are several backup programs in the Android Market and Amazon's market that do backups.
Don't know if this will help, but if you could provide more information on your question, you will probably get more specific answers.
Good Luck!!
As long as it's a replacement of the exact same phone with the exact same OS, I'm pretty sure you could just use something like Titanium Backup to handle all this if your phone is rooted.
I do have my phone rooted, I want to backup everything, everything, so I can restore the phone as it was. Dont worry about the new phone, i can root and get android 2.2 on it.
As said, Titanium Backup is your best bet. If you're talking about something similar to a nandroid backup through your recovery, you cannot restore those across phones with causing major problems.
Backup your apps + data with TB, but I wouldn't restore any system data. Download the rom you're currently running & have your root method handy. Setting back up shouldn't take too long. I'd take screenshots as well to help when setting widgets back up because TB or any other app cannot restore those.
EDIT: Also backup your contacts/calendar through gmail. Go in to your Accounts & Sync settings and choose sync now. Don't restore anything backed up with Google through Titanium Backup, you might get duplicates.

Using Titanium Backup to do a full backup.

Hi
Is it possible to use Titanium backup to do a total full backup?
So I can wipe it all, experiment with other roms, then if I decide to go back to the current one (Android Revolution HD), I just run super wipe, run the rom, then the no-sense, then run the backup with titanium backup, and will it be as it is now? All my apps still installed, all my apps arranged into folders in the app drawer and all my messages and all that?
Thanks.
willhub said:
Hi
Is it possible to use Titanium backup to do a total full backup?
So I can wipe it all, experiment with other roms, then if I decide to go back to the current one (Android Revolution HD), I just run super wipe, run the rom, then the no-sense, then run the backup with titanium backup, and will it be as it is now? All my apps still installed, all my apps arranged into folders in the app drawer and all my messages and all that?
Thanks.
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its easier with cwm because you would`nt have to flash the rom again and install titanium backup again cwm will put everything back the way it was
Sounds like a nandroid backup is what you really want to do. You can do that in recovery under backup/restore. It will take an entire image of your current ROM. Then you can experiment with other ROMs and go back to the backup you made and everything will be exactly as you left it. Backing up and restoring system data in Titanium Backup is not really a good idea between ROMs. Use it mainly for backing up user apps/data.
I booted into CM7 and did a backup there, the backup is like 871mb, does that include apps and everything I want backing up?
What about backing up text messages and home screen configs? I have ran restores on titanium before and seem to only sometimes get this restored. I flashed a rom 2 days ago and just today randomly, my text messages came back... weird...
Titanium backup is ****ty. Used it once to back up and restore my apps, but during restore it screwed up app data and half my restored apps were force closing when I tried to run them. I would find something else if I were you
willhub said:
I booted into CM7 and did a backup there, the backup is like 871mb, does that include apps and everything I want backing up?
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not CM7 - its CWM
Anyway, a nandroid is what you are referring to and as it seems what you have done.
My last nandroid was over 1.2 GB
Experiment all you like now with various ROMs.You have your security net of a known working backup..(if the **** hits the fan)

back up when switching between roms.

hi there guys,
I have some questions about how to make a total back-up of your rom, so you don't have to setup your apps and stuff like that, when you wanna try something new. Setting everything up when I wanna go back,is holding me back.
hope this is not a total repost, if it is just show me the old thread, cause I couldn't find it.
Errr... A classical Nandroid (whole Rom with Kernel, Apps and Settings) and/or Titanium Backup (Apps and Settings - possible to transfer data between different roms) should offer everything you need
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when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
Safidk said:
when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
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I always backup and restore from recovery menu of clockwork, this means when restoring everything is put back as it was.
Not sure why this isn't working for you
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I downloaded (and paid for) the newest version of clockwork manager from the marked. How do you do it, just from the app or do you boot in recovery? When you say full recovery does that include everything, so you don't have to setup anything?
Yes mate, boot into recovery, select "backup and restore", then backup - this will save a full copy of your system as it stands. When you backup from the recovery menu it will put everything back exactly as it was when you backed it up - ie all apps & data already setup
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and before I recover I need to do a complete wipe, right. System, catch and factory?
No.. you dont need to wipe before restrore.
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ok, tnen I'm gonna try again. Don't see why its not working for me. There's not a secieal setup I need to do? I haven't done anything else than installing the app ;-)
Confusion?
I believe that there is a couple of differing questions are being asked and answered here.
A Nandroind backup or full device backup (excluding RADIO) will enable you to restore your device back to the exact state that it was in when taken. All the phone partitions SYSTEM/DATA/BOOT/CACHE/etc are all backed up. Therefore restoring one of these backups will ensure that the ROM, kernel and data will be restored together and the phone will be operational.
A Titanium Backup backs up applications and setup data that enables you to easily restore your installed applications and configuration. After a factory reset or a re-install of the same ROM.
It can often be problematic to use a titanium backup after changing the version of the ROM you used or when moving from one ROM to a completely different one. In fact quite often ROM cooks recommend that you don't use a Titanium backup restore in the setup of their ROM.
That being said I still take both types of backups on my device. As titanium backups are useful for restoring individual applications to a previous state if they encounter a problem or corruption.
I believe that the Nandroid backup is the most useful recovery tool we have available to us and always take one, before flashing any new ROM or ZIP file, better to be safe than sorry.
Although I'd also recommend that all personal data ie calendar & contacts should be backed up by sync'ing to the cloud and never just kept locally on the device.

[Q] Keeping old sign-ins, appa, etc after flashing new Roms?

When I flash new Roms, I wipe everything (as required usually via TWRP). After getting the new ROM, I always have to download old apps, sign in to everything, etc. Is there anyway to avoid this hassle of always having to sign in and download apps?
Yes. It's called Titanium Backup. Get the paid version.
You can backup your apps with their settings (sign-ins etc) and just restore them after you flashed a new rom and re-installed Titanium Backup.
A few caveats:
Never restore system settings from TiBu.
Although restoring apps from TiBu works fine most times, if you run into weird problems, you may need to install apps from scratch anyway. But always worth to try....
Depending on which rom you run, the HTC Backup app actually is a nice companion to TiBu, taking care of phone settings, texts etc - if you run a sense rom.
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for, so thank you!

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