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Think i have made a pigs ear of my new i9000, well its new to me, only a week old
when i got it i could charge to 100% fairly fast and then when id unplug my charger it would hold at 100% for a fair bit, certainly if the screen was off it would be their for maybe 1hr with push email, but then when i updated to the new 2.2.1 froyo i read to wipe batterystats, so i did and now my phone charges to 98% (by the way when at 98% its showing around 4.28V ,it used to show that at 100%) without a problem but it had to be left on charge ALL night, yes over 10hrs to get to 100% from about 40% and as soon as i unplug the charger it drops to either 99% or this morning it dropped straight away in a blink of an eye to 98%
whats the best thing to do, i really dont want to wipe batterystats again since i have to drain the battery fully and i have done that about 3-4 time since having it, since i was trying new ROMs
is it possible that if i leave it then maybe by magic it could sort itself out, i mean this morning my battery pro app i have installed was showing 98% but an other battery reading in the phone showed 100%, i have no idea how thats possible!!
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guess I answered my own question, just charged it to 100% and unplugged it at 4.238v and straight away immediately after i unplugged it it went to 97% 4.191v so its getting worse.
am I getting no help because no one can help or have i posted in the wrong section??
any help would be fantastic
thank you
same problem with me
If you search around for battery drain threads, you'll find that this 100->98,97 phenomenon was specifically coded in for 2.2.1, ie: intentional. It supposedly makes your battery last longer or something by preventing overcharging, or something along those lines..
nwsk said:
If you search around for battery drain threads, you'll find that this 100->98,97 phenomenon was specifically coded in for 2.2.1, ie: intentional. It supposedly makes your battery last longer or something by preventing overcharging, or something along those lines..
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Thanks for clearing that up, yeah that makes sense that it will help the battery, it was not a huge deal just i wanted to know if i had messed it up but from what you said all is good
although the strangest thing this morning just before i read your post i unplugged my phone and it stayed ay 100% for about 4 mins which for me is rather good since i only get about 4hrs on screen time, but thats enough for me, i get easily 30+hrs with push emails
used to get half that on my HD2
I've installed the Yelp, Movies, and Amazon app, nothing else, and I'm losing around 15% an hour with light/normal usage.
I've let the battery run down to 0 and recharged completely, I've turned off gps and wifi, and still get really bad life. I live in the Bay Area and get a solid signal all of the time. There's really no excuse for it.
Please don't tell me to flash to a rom, because that's obviously not fixing the issue. Light browsing and the occasional Google Maps has my phone at <20% by the afternoon.
Battery stats just show android system and screen brightness taking up power. What's the deal?
I also constantly have at least 255 / 328mb in use even with all applications closed.
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The mb usage is normal i noticed this on stock because of Verizon apps that run in background. As far as not using the phone and only getting 6 good hours of use. i would take to the store and ask if they could change out the battery. Hope this helps.
+1 for that, sounds like you have a defective battery.
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Thats about how long my battery gets me.
And if I forget to power down my phone at night, or put it on a charger it is dead by morning no matter how much of a charge it has before I go to bed.
I have an extended battery starring me in the face and can't use it yet since I couldn't find a door and had to have one shipped from Samsung.
Hopefully the extended battery cures my issues.
(I am running Gummy Charged 2.3.3 Beta, currently waiting for the 2.3.4 release)
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Thats about how long my battery gets me.
And if I forget to power down my phone at night, or put it on a charger it is dead by morning no matter how much of a charge it has before I go to bed.
I have an extended battery starring me in the face and can't use it yet since I couldn't find a door and had to have one shipped from Samsung.
Hopefully the extended battery cures my issues.
(I am running Gummy Charged 2.3.3 Beta, currently waiting for the 2.3.4 release)
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I am curious as to what you guys are running. And if you go to bed with your phone on , and its dead by morning I can PROMISE you there is either something going on with your phone, or you are doing something wrong (i.e. you have your phone set to never sleep, your screen is set to maximum brightness, your are leaving your phone in desk cradle mode, etc etc etc.) But it's not the phone. May be a bad battery, but without being at your house and seeing what you are doing, I have no intelligent answer for you.
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I am curious as to what you guys are running. And if you go to bed with your phone on , and its dead by morning I can PROMISE you there is either something going on with your phone, or you are doing something wrong (i.e. you have your phone set to never sleep, your screen is set to maximum brightness, your are leaving your phone in desk cradle mode, etc etc etc.) But it's not the phone. May be a bad battery, but without being at your house and seeing what you are doing, I have no intelligent answer for you.
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charge phone to 100%, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats, then use the phone until you completely drain your battery until it shuts off. Then charge back up completely. This will calibrate your battery. try running a customer rom such as gummy charged or humble to see if you get bettery battery life... thousands of users have reported great battery life with both
I had same crummy battery life. I followed the calibration instructions and i went from about 5-6 hr batt life to ( right now im at almost 11hrs with 66% battery left on wifi with moderate use). Ill test tomorrow on 4g only and see how it does. I would get like 4-5 hrs before.
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danalo1979 said:
charge phone to 100%, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats, then use the phone until you completely drain your battery until it shuts off. Then charge back up completely. This will calibrate your battery. try running a customer rom such as gummy charged or humble to see if you get bettery battery life... thousands of users have reported great battery life with both
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I am running the latest humble and my battery drops really fast. If I go into task manager and clear my RAM, I get better battery. I calibrated per the instructions as well about a week ago or so and saw no improvement. Please note that I have not been scientific about it at all.
Stopping Data obv helps a million and clearing RAM seems to help as well.
EDIT: I am recalibrating in case it was not done properly before. Hopefully it will help. I am hopeful!
I charged my battery to full, booted into clockwork recovery and wiped my battery stats.
When I rebooted my phone it shows a 73% charge?
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I charged my battery to full, booted into clockwork recovery and wiped my battery stats.
When I rebooted my phone it shows a 73% charge?
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If you are on humble 1.x then that means your battery stats were way off. Basically your battery still needs 23% more charge before its full... thus better battery life... because you had a miscalibrated battery, your phone is erroneously reporting a full charge... charge it back to 100% then discharge fully then charge all the back up
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I'm on Gummy Charge GRE, but I assume the same reason?
I exchanged my battery at verizon. So far it seems better. Ive let it drain and am recharging now. I will also try uninstalling g+ if the new batt hasnt solved the problem. I will post back with an update.
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I switched out my battery 2 days ago, and I'm still getting under 6 hours with moderate use.
Has anyone had luck with ROMs drastically improving battery life? I can't imagine it being the phone itself, but I might try exchanging it too.
EDIT: it seems like the new battery charges a bit faster. My old battery would take around a minute for one percentage gain. Can anyone comment on their charge times?
So this has happened twice now. I'm running on ARHD 4.1.0 w/ Bricked 1.0.
My battery will be running normally, normal drainage, etc., and then it'll just drop from 90 to 70% in less than an hour, and normally drain for another hour or so, and then at around 60% just die. I can't attach a screenshot since normal screenshot apps aren't working and the stock function keeps producing invalid images, otherwise I would, but it literally just looks like it got to 60% and instantly dropped to 0%, there's just a vertical line of missing percentage. I took my phone out of my pocket, expecting it to be around 40 or 50%, and it wouldn't turn on. When I hooked it up to the charger, it took a good 5 or more minutes to even respond to the power button. Do I have a bad battery or just incredibly out of whack battery stats? I have never had this problem with an android phone before, and I thought for sure one full charge overnight would fix it, but I guess not because it happened twice. Any suggestions?
Edit: I use an app called battery snap to monitor the battery level and temperature with a widget, I checked a snapshot history while it was charging and for a few seconds it was at 0.002 volts. But then it jumped back up to 3.897 or something around there. That doesn't sound very good to me.
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So this has happened twice now. I'm running on ARHD 4.1.0 w/ Bricked 1.0.
My battery will be running normally, normal drainage, etc., and then it'll just drop from 90 to 70% in less than an hour, and normally drain for another hour or so, and then at around 60% just die. I can't attach a screenshot since normal screenshot apps aren't working and the stock function keeps producing invalid images, otherwise I would, but it literally just looks like it got to 60% and instantly dropped to 0%, there's just a vertical line of missing percentage. I took my phone out of my pocket, expecting it to be around 40 or 50%, and it wouldn't turn on. When I hooked it up to the charger, it took a good 5 or more minutes to even respond to the power button. Do I have a bad battery or just incredibly out of whack battery stats? I have never had this problem with an android phone before, and I thought for sure one full charge overnight would fix it, but I guess not because it happened twice. Any suggestions?
Edit: I use an app called battery snap to monitor the battery level and temperature with a widget, I checked a snapshot history while it was charging and for a few seconds it was at 0.002 volts. But then it jumped back up to 3.897 or something around there. That doesn't sound very good to me.
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I don't know much about this, but I don't think battery stats have anything to do while the phone is dead. Even if it does, the phone would at least respond after a minute or two, not 5..
My suggestion is that you can order an Anker battery which is kinda cheap ($15 I think) and try.
You won't loose anything
Edit: Try wiping battery stats, do a full charge, fully discharge and fully recharge again and see if it helps (In your case I don't think this will help, but huh, let's hope ;D)
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I don't know much about this, but I don't think battery stats have anything to do while the phone is dead. Even if it does, the phone would at least respond after a minute or two, not 5..
My suggestion is that you can order an Anker battery which is kinda cheap ($15 I think) and try.
You won't loose anything
Edit: Try wiping battery stats, do a full charge, fully discharge and fully recharge again and see if it helps (In your case I don't think this will help, but huh, let's hope ;D)
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Thanks, I'll try it. I flashed the new cm7, since I just got tired of sense woes. I read battery life on this was amazing, and I'm hoping it was just a bug with the kernel/rom I was using. Battery stats would've been wiped when I wiped for flashing this ROM, so I'll do a full battery cycle and cross my fingers. My only thought is that maybe, if the battery stats were screwed up enough, it thought it was at 50 or 60% but really it was more like 10%. I remember having issues after I flashed the custom kernel, where before I flashed I was at 70%, and when I rebooted I was at ~10%, and I was like what the hell? So it ended up dying on me, but then I turned it back on and it said 50% or something around there. And then it functioned as normal until it died again, for real that time. Hopefully it was the kernel causing the issue. I'll run a few tests with this and see. If it is the battery, I'll try t-mobile for a warranty replacement of the battery.
The battery measurements seem to be really quirky on this phone. When the phone is idle it seems to drain anything from 50ma to 400ma for no particular reason. You cant really rely on the % too closely
Yeah, I've found the percentages to be pretty inaccurate. Hardly an hour and a half on the battery and it's down to 84%. I did play a game for like 10 minutes and the screen has probably been on for 20 or so, so that's not incredibly unreasonable. I'm just waiting for that dropoff to 0%, if that happens again I'm thinking it's hardware, because I'm running an entirely different ROM and kernel right now.
So it just happened again, went from 42 to 14 after reboot, had to remove battery and reinsert to fix. But other people have reported this issue on cm7. So, I'm thinking maybe that it's an issue with android 2.3.5 or the kernel for it, since it's happened on both arhd 4.1 and cm7, both 2.3.5 roms. I'm going to try and flash faux's cm7 kernel over it and see if it fixes it. May or may not, might be a long shot but worth a shot, I'd rather not switch roms for a third time in the same day.
Has anyone realized this or is it just me, every sense 3.5 that I've tried the battery indicator is incorrect.
For example, I just had 41% battery life before resetting my phone and now I have only 4%. Is it not charging the battery correctly? I also turn the phone off after it says 100% and then charge until the green led comes on but still it is either draining too fast and phone doesn't detect it until a reset or the battery isn't be charged completely because the rom thinks it's 100. I have caliibrated and erased the batterystats.bin file so many times and it's still the same. any insight on this? I have a brand new battery from htc as well.
Same problem
Constantly "calibrating" or deleting the battery stats is the exact reason this happens. You dont have to do that, regardless of what people say.
This will happen until the battery has been charged/discharged a few times and will slowly stop happening.
No issue here, got my new anker battery.. Flashed BP 2.1.5 and since then, my battery has been normal and amazing!
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Constantly "calibrating" or deleting the battery stats is the exact reason this happens. You dont have to do that, regardless of what people say.
This will happen until the battery has been charged/discharged a few times and will slowly stop happening.
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This. When I flash ROMs I don't really do anything in relation to the battery. I just use my phone like normal. The first day or two you might get a little more drain than usual, but after that it will be completely normal and you don't have to do anything like wipe battery stats or calibrate or run it down to 5% and charge it all the way up or whatever.
Yes, constantly resetting battery stats is bad. Should only occur right after flashing the new ROM. Ideally you'll have charged your phone to 100%, flashed the new ROM, and immediately putting it through 5 discharge/charge cycles.
My battery life was horrendous when I didn't properly calibrate the battery. Going through the process now and its lasting a significantly longer time compared to not going through the process. I'm talking about getting like 6 hours of light usage compared to like 15.
Or it could be just ARHD. I really didn't like that ROM. Anyways, I'm running Bulletproof 2.1.5 with 3.5 Sense on an Anker battery and its doing great.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that. My battery life was horrendous when I didn't properly calibrate the battery by going through at least 3 full discharge and charge cycles. Going through the process now and its lasting a significantly longer time compared to not going through the process. I'm talking about getting like 6 hours of light usage compared to like 15.
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+ 1 my battery was shocking, im on my second full cycle currently at 2% lol and already i've noticed improvements by like 20%
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I've done everything, calibrated the battery numerous times with and without wiping the batterystats.bin and it's still acting up. Say this morning I wake up, take the phone off charge at 100%, go out, and restart the phone for any reason when the phone's battery meter is at 95%, after the restart the meter will jump down to 70%.
This is with a new battery, new rom, totally wiped device, I even used the ruu to get me back to the stock rom.
Anyone have any idea what's the problem? The battery life is ****, and doesn't seem to get any better with calibration.
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I've done everything, calibrated the battery numerous times with and without wiping the batterystats.bin and it's still acting up. Say this morning I wake up, take the phone off charge at 100%, go out, and restart the phone for any reason when the phone's battery meter is at 95%, after the restart the meter will jump down to 70%.
This is with a new battery, new rom, totally wiped device, I even used the ruu to get me back to the stock rom.
Anyone have any idea what's the problem? The battery life is ****, and doesn't seem to get any better with calibration.
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This is your culprit. Let it bed in a few days, and performance should stabilize.
Go through 5 full charges/discharges, uninterrupted. Yes, it's a pain in the ass, but you signed up for it when you flashed a new ROM.
Everytime you wipe your battery stats, you have to go through the 5 cycle process again. Uninterrupted.
EDIT: Had a lil too much rum and misspelled a few words. I even misspelled mispelled
Alright dude, I'm going to take you up on your word, I'll give you another update within 5 days.
This is a problem with all Sensation ROMs, even with S-On and Stock ROMs. I get a problem like this one too. If I have 60% left, and I restart the phone, it goes up to 69% and I don't know why. Also very slow charging from the original wall charger, but if I reboot when it's charging at 70-75%, when it finally boots, it says 100% charge. This must be some bug from HTC or something. :S
Hi,
Same problem (with Sense 3.0/Sence 3.5 and different ROM),but is there a fix for that?
I saw this:
Batt Jumping hopefully solved (Beta) = Done
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The thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287129 .
Probably a way to fix the issue?
Should be asked about this in the ROM thread?
Me too same bug since first day, I think it's a battery sensor fault
It's not a hardware fault...it's not a battery fault...it *may* be a ROM/kernel issue...but I suggest you give your battery a few discharge/charge cycles and you'll see it should go back to normal.
I can't seem to figure out whats wrong with my phone. I have a draining issue with my battery and i don't know if my battery indicator is not accurate. I used odin and went back to stock on a full indicated battery. Then I flashed VB and adrenaline shots 1.4-1 and camera tweak and scrolling mod and booted the phone and let set for 10 minutes before I reloaded all my apps. My battery was indicating it was at 100% ok so i unplugged the battery and wham it dropped to 79% plugged it back in and it started charged from where it left off at 79%. After a few min and the phone goes to sleep mode and indicates 100% i unplug the phone and it charged from where it left off at 79%. So i kept unplugging it and plugging it back in every few minutes till i got to 100%. So sounds ok now but i had to reboot my system and wham again down to 79% and even with the uv settings my battery drains fast. I tried calibrating the battery and also charged it with the phone being off and no results. All I want is a full charge as I work long shifts lol. thanks and i hope this is understandable the way i tried to describe it.
Also Thanks to the devs on here who dedicate their time to making this device do what it was meant to do..
Try letting the phone die completely. After about ten minutes power it back on then let it die completely again. Leave it off for an hour then plug into wall charger. Let it charge to 100% while off. After it hits 100% unplug it and leave it sit for an hour while off. Then turn it on and use normally.
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Try letting the phone die completely.
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Not to contradict hechoen - but take note that Samsung recommends against completely discharging your battery in the manual for the phone.
+1 (edit: on previous calibration routing)
also you may try to "jump start" MAX17042 (fuel gauge) chip... when your phone at 100% on a charger (verify this by looking at battery voltage - OS Monitor / Misc tab. or other similar apps) - voltage should be around 4.15 - 4.2V. When you disconnect charger - what would be the voltage then? If around 4.0V then may be your battery is going south.
To "jump start" FG - turn off the phone, pull battery out and wait for 5 - 10 min. - just to be sure internal circuits got completely discharged.
When you install battery, FG chip will use "average" model for new lipo... see if it makes difference.
Yeah I've heard that this kind of batteries last longer if charged continuously (short and often charges) instead of full charges after letting it die. Something about battery cycles or some.
I'd recommend fully charging and battery calibration from market. Also, reflash rom but not tweaks yet, and see how it behaves. Then install tweaks/mods and see if the battery continues to decrease rapidly. If it does, get an app for battery info, check its health.. Your battery might be dying for good.
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battery calibration from market.
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Google has also debunked the battery calibration myth. There is a thread about it in the General Section with a link to the article.
To add to the recommendations...
Check how often your phone is set to sync. Big battery drainer. Auto starting apps. And display brightness.
if all fails you could try to reflash and see if that fixes it
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Google has also debunked the battery calibration myth. There is a thread about it in the General Section with a link to the article.
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+1 on that too... glad to see that finally common sense based on knowledge prevails "Battery Calibration by wiping batterystats file" apps myths.
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Google has also debunked the battery calibration myth. There is a thread about it in the General Section with a link to the article.
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Wait, I didn't say battery calibration is going to make your battery last longer. It doesn't do that.
But it's a fact that after installing a rom a battery calibration is needed. Normally, developers code their install scripts to perform a battery calibration when installing the rom, so this is not needed afterwards, I still do it anyways when charging the first time to 100%.
I for one had the issue for the first time when installing a rom (don't remember which one) and after rebooting or shutting down the phone, the battery would go from >90% to <20% for no reason at all. Someone here at XDA suggested battery calibration app (or, manually at CWM/advanced, clear battery stats) and the issue was gone. Maybe the rom is misreading battery data and that could cause this kind of issues... which a battery calibration would fix it.
Just saying.. if there's an option for it in CWM, then chances are it is needed for some reason!
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+1 on that too... glad to see that finally common sense based on knowledge prevails "Battery Calibration by wiping batterystats file" apps myths.
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Indeed. It's on our wiki, too, under the batterystats.bin Buzz Word entry.
So i think I needed to do a factory reset. I re flashed vahnilla black and then did a factory reset in the rom. Before I re flashed the rom I
had 60% as soon I restarted the phone on the freshly flashed rom it dropped to 1% then I did a factory restart within the rom and when I rebooted the battery indicated 20% and I am in 16% charge now, only went down 4% within the last 6 hours. So I will run it till it dies tonight and charge it with the phone off to see the results tomorrow.
Thanks Raver for the help in this matter. Will keep everyone posted on the end results.
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Not to contradict hechoen - but take note that Samsung recommends against completely discharging your battery in the manual for the phone.
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No contradiction at all. You shouldn't fully discharge all the time. But once in a while it's actually good for the battery. Especially lithium ion. Take a look at this. For those of you who don't like to read that much just skip to the bottom.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/inner_workings_of_a_smart_battery
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No contradiction at all. You shouldn't fully discharge all the time. But once in a while it's actually good for the battery. Especially lithium ion. Take a look at this. For those of you who don't like to read that much just skip to the bottom.
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Forgot link?
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Forgot link?
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Sure did. Sorry about that.
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So I will run it till it dies tonight and charge it with the phone off to see the results tomorrow.
Thanks Raver for the help in this matter. Will keep everyone posted on the end results.
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so you call hechoen (guy who posted calibration routing) Raver...
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so you call hechoen (guy who posted calibration routing) Raver...
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no actually raver answered a few questions for me through pm. but hechoen thank you and i will do that when my battery is fully charged. thanks again to everyone for the info! will update tomorrow!
I fully charged my battery last night while it being off and let it sit for a hour before turning it on. Well great seemed to now indicate it's fully charged after a hour I threw on adrenaline shots 14-1 with camera and scrolling mod. Let it air for 30min went into recoveryand fix perms. When I rebooted the phone the battery dropped again from 80 to 60 and then went back up to 75. Then I rebooted again it dropped to 25% and then I rebooted again and now it indicates 59% I believe this battery is heading south. What do you guys think?
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drywolf said:
How old is the battery. If it is a quality battery it should take between 500 and 900 recharges. Do you own a volt meter?
Also calibrating your battery should be done occasionally. Not to somehow make your battery last longer, but to clear out the old data and use new data to show your batteries usage. Just like resetting the computer in your car that shows average MPG. Fresh input will give you a better idea of what your car is getting today and same goes for your battery stats.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
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I have calibrated the battery. Everything seems to of been working fine until I added adrenaline shots. Once I rebooted after installing adrenaline shots my battery started acting up again. I pulled the battery out for 10 min and popped back in and now I'm indicating 56% after 4 hours of heavy use with wifi on. :/
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Is this a factory battery? Or a aftermarket ebay/amazon battery?
Im sure people will disagree but some of those aftermarket batteries are not the greatest quality.
Do you live in a town that had a battery store, like the interstate battery shop or something of the likes? Most of those places can do a brief diagnostic of the battery and tell you if it is bad. Or if you have a volt meter fully charge it and test it that way.
It really sounds like the battery is being stupid. There should not be any reason installing A.S. could cause a instant battery drain. If that were the case your phone would be so hot you could not hold it. Because draining that much juice in that little of time would indicate you have a short or something of that nature.