I'm currently rooted running a MIUI ROM. My question is, if I want to flash to a different ROM, what do I need to do prior to flashing? Can I just flash directly over using CWM or do I need to revert back to stock first?
Thanks
If it was an update to the same rom then you could probably just flash over depending on the chef's instructions.
But a different rom, I would definite wipe data/factory reset it first.
Of course I would backup apps/data, and a nandroid backup too
SysAdmNj said:
If it was an update to the same rom then you could probably just flash over depending on the chef's instructions.
But a different rom, I would definite wipe data/factory reset it first.
Of course I would backup apps/data, and a nandroid backup too
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Thanks for the reply, so would I need to unroot and reroot and all that stuff over again, or can I just choose the factory rest option from the boot menu?
There's no need to return to stock, just wipe data/cache from the CWM menu.
If I have a backup of of an existing ROM, and a Titanium backups of all apps and app date, why would I need a Nandroid backup too?
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I am confused, do I wipe data/factory reset or format data???
Backup only user apps with titanium backup, run nandroid backup, wipe cache, wipe/factory reset, flash rom
polo79 said:
Backup only user apps with titanium backup, run nandroid backup, wipe cache, wipe/factory reset, flash rom
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I guess sometimes we have to learn the hard way...stupid noob that I am. If I would spend more time reading before I jump in and make a change I think my life would be a lot easier. Flashed the update yesterday including the SuperWipe Lite and then spent all day reloading everything using Ti Backup. Got all my app data back but most of my settings and all of my widgets were screwed up.
So question is if I use nandroid next time, does it make the process of restoring everything easier? Or should I just skip the SuperWipe all together? I would love to play with some of the other ROMS but I'm gunshy now to try it.
pkdayga said:
So question is if I use nandroid next time, does it make the process of restoring everything easier? Or should I just skip the SuperWipe all together? I would love to play with some of the other ROMS but I'm gunshy now to try it.
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If you're wanting to try different ROM a nandroid is not how to do it. Since a nandroid backup save everything "as is" at the time of the backup. So if you flash a new ROM and do a nandroid restore you're back at square one.
A nandroid backup is good if you want to try different things and restore back to where you were.
Titanium Backup is still the way to go IMO. I use it and restore only apps + app data. The Google account should handle the system settings.
Take me about 15 minutes to go from ROM to ROM initially.
Also when updating the same ROM there's no need to wipe (unless stated otherwise).
Hi,
i am using CWM.
currently, i am under Cyanogen.
i want to try AOKP.
my question is
i have followed the steps below
a backup
Wipe data
Wipe system
Install AOKp
Till now am i right?
and after to come back to my backup
step 1
Should i Wipe Data?
step 2
Should i wipe system ?
Restore CWM of Cyanogen
are the steps 1 and 2 necessary?
is it a bad practice?
do it let gremlim?
moreover can i restore a back up made under TWRP from CWM?
Can i restore a back up made under CWM from TWRP?
how do you restore the back up?
am i missing steps? Fix permissions?
do i need to recalibrate my battery each time?
Thanks
Heniki
You can only restore CWM backups with CWM and TWRP backups with TWRP. As of now CWM 6's backup function is broken but it is being worked on. So make sure your Backups are from either TWRP or CMW 5 if you want them to work.
To restore a backup I wipe data/factory reset and wipe system. Then choose the backup I want to restore. No need to fix permissions unless things start to act funny after the restore. As far as battery calibration goes it's a myth.
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You can only restore CWM backups with CWM and TWRP backups with TWRP. As of now CWM 6's backup function is broken but it is being worked on. So make sure your Backups are from either TWRP or CMW 5 if you want them to work.
To restore a backup I wipe data/factory reset and wipe system. Then choose the backup I want to restore. No need to fix permissions unless things start to act funny after the restore. As far as battery calibration goes it's a myth.
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With R6, Bryan said he fixed the backup and restore issues with CWM6. Idk about the rest of the features
When you say "Cyanogen" I think many assume you mean CM9 (ICS).
If you are running CM7 (GB), be very careful how you restore. Most system data (and perhaps some user data) from GB is not compatible with ICS.
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When you say "Cyanogen" I think many assume you mean CM9 (ICS).
If you are running CM7 (GB), be very careful how you restore. Most system data (and perhaps some user data) from GB is not compatible with ICS.
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Right, i am under CM9
Thanks guys
How i Can move from TWRP To CWM?
i found this one to move from CWM to TWRP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721489.
i want really to understand what are the bad practices which will create gremlims
heniki said:
Thanks guys
How i Can move from TWRP To CWM?
i found this one to move from CWM to TWRP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721489.
i want really to understand what are the bad practices which will create gremlims
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As Fb said in the post you linked you flash the boot.img that came with your rom or reflash the rom.
The more times you flash roms the more issues you could have with "gremlins". Read more about it in the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500427
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Hi
I have a couple of questions, been digging around xda and the web and found some conflicting answers...
1) Does a Nandroid backup also back up the kernel? I'm thinking about dabbling with some custom kernels, but don't want to potentially mess things up as well as have an easy way back to the stock kernel if I don't like the custom one for one reason or another.
2) What would happen if I made a Nandroid backup from recovery, did a full wipe (/data, /system, /sdcard, caches), rebooted then restored from the Nandroid backup?
I'm still pretty new to all this but I've done some reading and a wee bit of flashing & rooting on Nexus devices and the HP Touchpad. I also have an old TF101 that I'd really like to tinker with as well.
Thanks!
cardula said:
Hi
I have a couple of questions, been digging around xda and the web and found some conflicting answers...
1) Does a Nandroid backup also back up the kernel? I'm thinking about dabbling with some custom kernels, but don't want to potentially mess things up as well as have an easy way back to the stock kernel if I don't like the custom one for one reason or another.
2) What would happen if I made a Nandroid backup from recovery, did a full wipe (/data, /system, /sdcard, caches), rebooted then restored from the Nandroid backup?
I'm still pretty new to all this but I've done some reading and a wee bit of flashing & rooting on Nexus devices and the HP Touchpad. I also have an old TF101 that I'd really like to tinker with as well.
Thanks!
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I don't know much about kernel but I do know that Nandroid backup backups everything exactly where the phone is.
That means if you do factory reset and restore Nandroid backup it will restore everything from the day you made the Nandroid backup.
I hope it clarifies everything.
Let me answer your questions.
1. When you do a nandroid backup, it backs up everything. Including the kernel.
2. If you nandroid backup, factory reset your device then restore your nandroid backup. Your device will return to the same state you had it previously. You will have all your content, files and settings. However if you do a backup, then factory reset and reboot, your device will be wiped of everything but it will boot up. As if the device was just turned in upon purchase. Also note, if you do a backup, then wipe your device (factory reset) you will not lose your backup.
Just note, if you ever flash a ROM, even if the developer states there is no issues. MAKE A BACKUP, sometimes things go wrong.
Happy flashing
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Thanks for the quick replies!
I was a bit confused about 2) because I read somewhere that if you make a nandroid backup of a stock ROM, then install a custom ROM (non-Stock based ie CM, PA or OmniROM) you must flash the stock ROM again before you can restore the nandroid backup, or else restoring the nandroid backup will not work. Is this true?
Consider the following example, say I:
-flash TWRP on my device and root
-make nandroid of stock, rooted ROM
-wipe /data, /system, /sdcard and caches and reboot back into recovery
-ADB push a non-stock custom ROM .zip file and flash the custom ROM
-decide I want to return to stock, rooted ROM after a while
-Boot into TWRP, then wipe /data, /system, /sdcard and caches and reboot back into recovery
-ADB push my original stock, rooted nandroid backup to /sdcard while in reocvery
-restore nandroid backup
What would be the outcome of the above example? I'm very curious...but I'd like some advice before attempting something like this myself as I'm still kinda new to all this
BTW I'm now comfortable flashing back to stock using fastboot and the google facotry image to restore a Nexus device so I now know how to do this in case things go south. I'm just curious if this would work on a device where returning to a full stock state isn't so easy.
No you don't need to install anything to get back to the previous state. So if you had a stock rooted ROM, then backed it up. But you decided to flash, let's say. Cyanogenmod but you wished to return back to stock, you don't need to flash stock ROM, all you have to do is just wipe data and restore your backup.
And for the example.
The outcome would be, you would be resulted with a stock, rooted rom.
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Thanks again, krishneelg3 for the quick reply. Been wondering about this for a while.
Cheers
No worries, if you have any other questions to ask, just ask. xda is a giving community !
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Due to problems with Google Services on my rooted Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) I opted for a reset from TWRP and it returned to a condition where after some initial screens it was just stuck at "Checking for Updates" so I went back into TWRP and told it to wipe the other partitions. Whoops - now I have no OS (I was sort of assuming that the factory reset OS was somewhere else)
Which is the stock ROM for my Region - UK, unbranded - where do I get it from and how do I load it using Odin and/or TWRP?
TIA
Hello,
Did you make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM or a nandroid backup of a custom ROM if you installed one? If you have a nandroid backup of either of those then you can restore them in TWRP by choosing the restore option and then your nandroid then swipe the slider at the bottom of the screen. If you installed a custom ROM at any time before this and you still have the ROM file then you can reflash the ROM and Gapps.
If you don't have a custom ROM stored anywhere but can still get to recovery, then you can download any of the custom ROMs compatible with your device and a Gapps package that matches it and put them on your extsdcard then boot to recovery and flash the ROM and gapps, do the normal wipes in recovery after flashing, the normal wipes(wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache), DO NOT CHOOSE THE ADVANCED OPTIONS THAT LET YOU WIPE PARTITIONS.
Check this thread to see if it is your stock firmware, it SHOULD be but double check first, it also has instructions for rooting again and installing recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/stock-rom-root-recovery-sm-g900f-t2967725
If that doesn't work then go to Sammobile.com and search for your stock firmware by using your device model number.
The firmwares can sometimes be found at samsung-updates.com also.
Find the right firmware for your exact model number and flash through Odin.
For further assistance, post your question in the forum linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help
Good luck.
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Did you make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM or a nandroid backup of a custom ROM if you installed one?
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Sadly not - wasn't expecting to need it, thought it would revert to factory default - I have Titanium backup of apps and data.
I am hopefully a few minutes away from downloading the stock ROM and hopefully can reflash that using ODIN.
KD
colehill said:
Sadly not - wasn't expecting to need it, thought it would revert to factory default - I have Titanium backup of apps and data.
I am hopefully a few minutes away from downloading the stock ROM and hopefully can reflash that using ODIN.
KD
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Making nandroid backups in recovery is the most important and valuable function of custom recovery, flashing ROMs is its' secondary purpose Android is not like PC with a recovery partition that restores a factory IMG, on PC that factory IMG is stored in a recovery partition. The factory reset feature in stock android does not restore an IMG, it deletes all data from the user partition and leaves everything in system partition the way it is, if you delete a system app and then do a factory reset then you will still not have the system app that you deleted. Anything you modify in system remains the way you modified it if you use the factory reset option. You should only use the factory reset in recovery, not the factory reset in system settings when you have a rooted device with custom recovery.
I'm sure that when you found the recovery, the directions had to have mentioned making a nandroid backup of your stock ROM before flashing anything, your present situation is why you do that, so that if anything goes wrong then you can easily restore to the one ROM that you know for sure works with no issues.
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Droidriven said:
I'm sure that when you found the recovery, the directions had to have mentioned making a nandroid backup of your stock ROM before flashing anything, your present situation is why you do that, so that if anything goes wrong then you can easily restore to the one ROM that you know for sure works with no issues.
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I installed the TWERP recovery as part of the rooting operation and I didn't pay any attention to the backup option - I thought that's what Titanium did.
I am learning and will make sure that I take a Nandroid backup once I have it back up and running. Life would be so much simpler if only Samsunng didn't stuff their 'phones with bloatware that can't be deleted in stock mode.
KD
colehill said:
I installed the TWERP recovery as part of the rooting operation and I didn't pay any attention to the backup option - I thought that's what Titanium did.
I am learning and will make sure that I take a Nandroid backup once I have it back up and running. Life would be so much simpler if only Samsunng didn't stuff their 'phones with bloatware that can't be deleted in stock mode.
KD
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Titanium backup can only backup data that you installed or downloaded, it does not backup anything that comes on the phone itself, that is what custom recovery is for.
When following guides to mod your device, read and understand ALL instructions before you even make the first move to touch your device. Get used to being thorough about reading and understanding first or you'll end up in a mess, possibly even hard brick your device, all it takes is one wrong move. Not all mistakes are fixable with android devices.
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So I decided to flash some ROMS on my Alcatel 5045D but I wasn't completely happy with them so I decided to go back to the stock ROM.
Before flashing anything, I made a full backup of all the partitions via TWRP to be able to restore it.
So here is the problem: After restoring it, it works, but every time I restart the phone, all my settings and app permissions reset.
What I've already tried:
- Restore the backup again
- Wipe Caches
- Wipe Data, System and Caches and then restore the backup again
Is there any solution for this without flashing a downloaded stock ROM?
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So I decided to flash some ROMS on my Alcatel 5045D but I wasn't completely happy with them so I decided to go back to the stock ROM.
Before flashing anything, I made a full backup of all the partitions via TWRP to be able to restore it.
So here is the problem: After restoring it, it works, but every time I restart the phone, all my settings and app permissions reset.
What I've already tried:
- Restore the backup again
- Wipe Caches
- Wipe Data, System and Caches and then restore the backup again
Is there any solution for this without flashing a downloaded stock ROM?
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Maybe, but it might turn into a wild goose chase, it is simpler and easier to just flash the stock firmware file via your device's compatible flashtool and be done with the issue.
If you are worried about losing data, you can backup your data by other means than TWRP, then flash the stock firmware, then restore your data then reflash TWRP.
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