Roam Data Guard No Working!?! - Thunderbolt General

I travel to Canada a bunch and never use data because of the price. I'll normally find a hotspot and use that. On my Droid Incredible, I just left never enabled Data Roaming...and never had any issues.
The other day with my thunderbolt... I turned on my phone and it just started downloading emails and such. I tried changing the Data Roaming setting back and forth and it seems to do nothing.
Anyone experience this?
I'm obivously going to call Verizon when I get my bill because I'm not paying a dime for the roaming data.

Smart phones get unlimited data roaming...
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Not INTERNATIONALLY they dont!

I would highly recommend calling them before you get your bill. Notify them of the problem as soon as possible and I don't see how they could hold you liable for the charges. If you hold back, it could be interpreted as an attempt to get free roaming data.
Oh ... and until they fix it, you could toggle mobile data entirely while you're in Canada.

gbruyn said:
Not INTERNATIONALLY they dont!
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My apology I was unaware of this inside of north America.
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Would someone with an LTE mifi be willing to try this?

Take the SIM card out of the Thunderbolt and put it into the MIFI/Samsung Hotspot device, and see if you still get LTE connection from the MIFI/Samsung device? I would like to buy one of those things but only if I can get unlimited data with it.
Wont work. Lte =/= GSM. It uses dual authentication using your unique imei (device id). Also: it will recognize the device_type as an aircard.
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mcmillian is correct as you can not use the $30 unlimited data in an aircard, Verizon would see the device ID and turn off your data... however to add a couple additional pennies on the topic...
you can use your LTE sim card in ANY LTE device. I've tried it with other Thunderbolt (hmm, my phone replacement, ugh) and it worked flawlessly. I really do miss that about GSM carriers as i would take the card out of my nice phone, and put it in a crappy prepaid phone when i went to the beach, or Six Flags. If it fell out or got lost.... oh well!
Topher227 said:
mcmillian is correct as you can not use the $30 unlimited data in an aircard, Verizon would see the device ID and turn off your data... however to add a couple additional pennies on the topic...
you can use your LTE sim card in ANY LTE device. I've tried it with other Thunderbolt (hmm, my phone replacement, ugh) and it worked flawlessly. I really do miss that about GSM carriers as i would take the card out of my nice phone, and put it in a crappy prepaid phone when i went to the beach, or Six Flags. If it fell out or got lost.... oh well!
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Hmm if it worked in other thunderbolts I think it's definitely worth a shot in the aircard. I'm less concerned about Verizon seeing it and shutting it down at some later point... I know how big companies work and it would likely go unchecked for years before they decide to care enough.
I did this exact thing and it billed me for $1562 in mb usage on this pay months bill. You should definitely try it
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To answer your question... LTE does work!
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mattgattis said:
Hmm if it worked in other thunderbolts I think it's definitely worth a shot in the aircard. I'm less concerned about Verizon seeing it and shutting it down at some later point... I know how big companies work and it would likely go unchecked for years before they decide to care enough.
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It doesn't go unchecked for years, it registers the MiFi to that line the second you put the SIM in and puts a compatible data feature on the line automatically. So you won't magically get unlimited data they will just convert the plan automatically.
For what its worth, I currently work at VZW and here is what our intranet says regarding moving a 4G LTE sim from a phone to a modem and vice versa.
4G SIM Change from USB to Smartphone
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Customers with existing USBs who take the SIM out of the USB and place it into a 4G Smartphone will be able to place voice calls and will be charged the $0.25 per minute rate.
A change will be going into place by 03/22/2011 that will place a voice block on all new USB consumer and enterprise customers and all embedded base enterprise customers.
In addition, a change will be going in place on 04/17/2011 which will allow us to go back and put the block on the existing customer base.
Once the block is in place, users will not be able to place voice calls when they swap the SIMs unless they switch to an applicable voice/data plan.
4G SIM Change from Smartphone to USB
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Customers who purchase a SIM with a 4G Smartphone and have voice and data, will be able to remove the SIM and place it in a 4G USB.
Data usage on the USB would continue to be billed according the data plan on the Smartphone (including unlimited).
Customers would continue to pay for voice as per the terms of their agreement.
nerdydesi said:
For what its worth, I currently work at VZW and here is what our intranet says regarding moving a 4G LTE sim from a phone to a modem and vice versa.
4G SIM Change from USB to Smartphone
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Customers with existing USBs who take the SIM out of the USB and place it into a 4G Smartphone will be able to place voice calls and will be charged the $0.25 per minute rate.
A change will be going into place by 03/22/2011 that will place a voice block on all new USB consumer and enterprise customers and all embedded base enterprise customers.
In addition, a change will be going in place on 04/17/2011 which will allow us to go back and put the block on the existing customer base.
Once the block is in place, users will not be able to place voice calls when they swap the SIMs unless they switch to an applicable voice/data plan.
4G SIM Change from Smartphone to USB
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Customers who purchase a SIM with a 4G Smartphone and have voice and data, will be able to remove the SIM and place it in a 4G USB.
Data usage on the USB would continue to be billed according the data plan on the Smartphone (including unlimited).
Customers would continue to pay for voice as per the terms of their agreement.
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Nice, thanks for the info. I will definitely pick up a mifi then. Have you any idea which one is better? The verizon branded LTE mifi or the Samsung LTE Mobile Hotspot? I'm guessing the Samsung but just wanted to make sure there are no surprises with it.
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It doesn't go unchecked for years, it registers the MiFi to that line the second you put the SIM in and puts a compatible data feature on the line automatically. So you won't magically get unlimited data they will just convert the plan automatically.
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I highly doubt this... do you have any knowledge of the matter or are you speculating?
kesseler said:
I did this exact thing and it billed me for $1562 in mb usage on this pay months bill. You should definitely try it
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I can't tell if you're serious or not...
PEOPLE... I've worked for a huge Verizon retailer for five years. On my personal plan I have a Thunderbolt and I took my sim out and put it in a Samsung LTE Mifi. I got billed for $1,562 in MB overage and not only did it not automatically change my calling plan to a broadband data plan, but it kept my $29.99 unlimited days feature on there and still billed me $1.99/mb. $1,562 in data charges. This is your warning, don't try it. They won't credit it for me either.
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Am I missing something here? why piss money away on a mifi when you can root your phone and use wifi tether?
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PEOPLE... I've worked for a huge Verizon retailer for five years. On my personal plan I have a Thunderbolt and I took my sim out and put it in a Samsung LTE Mifi. I got billed for $1,562 in MB overage and not only did it not automatically change my calling plan to a broadband data plan, but it kept my $29.99 unlimited days feature on there and still billed me $1.99/mb. $1,562 in data charges. This is your warning, don't try it. They won't credit it for me either.
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Nice try, Verizon guy.
Edit: On the off chance that this is real and you're not just seeking attention, seriously do not pay that bill. A phone company cannot sign you up for a plan (contract) of their choosing and bill you outrageous sums. The only contract you signed was for unlimited data. Unless they have your signature on a document saying that you agreed to pay $1.99/mb for something, then you do not have to pay it. If they are accusing you of something illegal, which would be ridiculous, then only a court can make a judgement against you.
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Am I missing something here? why piss money away on a mifi when you can root your phone and use wifi tether?
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Well, it's less expensive than a phone, and consumes less battery power for starters. Not advising anyone to do this... I have my reasons, just want to know if it will work.
Ill try tomorrow at work
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Ill try tomorrow at work
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Hey, so are you a fellow VZW employee?
I'm not a "Verizon guy," I work for a retailer, not corporate Verizon. I was just offering a warning of what happened on the 10th when I received my bill. And they won't credit me because I contract with them as an indirect agent and as I activated it on my own acct I should have "known better." Do what you want, I was just trying to offer some advice to the OP.
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I have a Thunderbolt and a Pantech USB modem. I took the SIM from my phone, put it in the USB stick, and it worked no problems....
I did this a couple months ago just cause I was wondering if it worked. I didn't leave my phone's Sim in the USB for a long time, just surfed the internet that evening long enough to see that it worked in case I wanted to use the unlimited data in the USB stick to download a movie or something and not use my 5G limit of the broadband plan.
I did not see any additional charges on my bill, but like I said, I only had it in there for one evening.

[Q] AT&t unlimited data trick

My question is, will it renew my contract if I do this? The person that I'm on a plan with wants to stay off contract.
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I don't see why it would. Its just a change in your data plan. Not a contact renewel. I did not have to renew.
There its a huge thread for the data trick here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698&highlight=iphone+2
Thank you for your reply.
Yeah I was originally on that thread trying to browse through it. But like you said it's a "huge" thread and using the xda app is about useless when using the search button lol.
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Yeah, search is awful on the xda app.
Basically, I did the iTunes 2g thing. It just made me agree to the $20 a month edge network plan. My infuse worked fine but I got the text that tells you to get a 3g or better plan. So I went into the store, nobody had "unlimited" come up on their screens. I called 611 a few times before I found someone chill and I figured out how to word what I wanted without sounding sketchy. I was Hella nice and asked the rep if she could see "smartphone personal" on her screen. I'm doing the $35 plan w/ 200 texts.
Also, I just checked and my contract renewel is still may 2013, so it was unaffected by the data plan change
I have another question, if someone can answer =]
So I activated the plan with the iPhone. Now I was wondering if I can use that same SIM card and put it into my infuse without using the data so they wont ask me to upgrade my plan.
So in other words, check off the part in the settings in the infuse that says "Data Enabled" and still be able to use the same SIM card that I used to activate the iPhone 2g. Or will they be able to detect the switch and send me a notification to upgrade my plan?
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I have another question, if someone can answer =]
So I activated the plan with the iPhone. Now I was wondering if I can use that same SIM card and put it into my infuse without using the data so they wont ask me to upgrade my plan.
So in other words, check off the part in the settings in the infuse that says "Data Enabled" and still be able to use the same SIM card that I used to activate the iPhone 2g. Or will they be able to detect the switch and send me a notification to upgrade my plan?
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its better that they detect it. so they can switch you over to the 4G unlimited data. and either way they will know what phone you are using.
if you activated the iPhone already, just go ahead and call in and tell them to switch you over to the data unlimited that you are no longer using that iPhone. thats what i did when i activated the data unlimited when i had the Atrix. they shouldn't give you a buzz about it.
Optimus-Prime said:
its better that they detect it. so they can switch you over to the 4G unlimited data. and either way they will know what phone you are using.
if you activated the iPhone already, just go ahead and call in and tell them to switch you over to the data unlimited that you are no longer using that iPhone. thats what i did when i activated the data unlimited when i had the Atrix. they shouldn't give you a buzz about it.
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Yeah I know. I can't afford the 4g unlimited for $30 at the moment until I find another job. I wasn't ever on a data plan to begin with, I've been using my Infuse on wifi. I did the data trick so I can at least have it already on my plan till I can afford it, so it will be more of a credible reasoning for them to switch me onto the unlimited smartphone data, since ill have it for a while.
I was mainly asking if I can switch between phones, having it so my Infuse doesn't use any data, seeing that I see that option in system settings.
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T-Mobile now charging 14.99 for wifi sharing

This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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azcledel said:
This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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Yep, don't use the t-mobile tether app download wifi tether for root users from the market and use that. I'm assuming you are rooted?
Yea I'm rooted lol I've tried 3 tethring apps off the market and they had the same result as the built in one. I can't find the one your talking about tho. All I'm finding is the ones I already tried.
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I used pda net but u got to pay the pro to used https websites so no fb or gmail etc
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OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
yogi2010 said:
OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
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No they changed it all its an added feature now. I got wifi tethering for root users tho. So I think everyone should get it maybe have it included in roms too seeing as tmobile are being cheap *****es now
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It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
Networks are greedy they suck.
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Jax184 said:
It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
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A lot of the android browsers are able to set user agent as desktop so I doubt it's that. They have blocked the free tether apps from the market and only provide theirs so I think it's just them monitoring their app.
BTW I'm jealous of your free tethering, as soon as the carriers heard people were doing it here they were quick to monopolize on it
Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
Have you tried sneaking one of the third party apps on to see how it works?
That's staggeringly awful. This is the most featureful cell phone plan available, and it's $40. I'm told that people in another province got the plan for $35 at one point.
Yeah we have to side load the apps, google search and download from the browser. I've had a copy in my sd card since the g1 days when things were good lol.
We also have at&t trying to buy out t-mobile which would more than likely drive prices up further. there are a few pay as you go carriers that offer cheaper plans for unlimitted data and text (around $40) but the minutes are rarely unlimited, the data is slower, and they are buying towers off the bigger companies so coverage is usually terrible
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've always gotten Wireless Tether straight from the Google Code site. It always has the very latest versions, but somtimes earlier ones are the more stable.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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Yeah that's the only way you can get a good deal, if you have several lines on an account. Unfortunately us americans aren't into the whole "sharing" thing so finding people to sign up with you tends to be difficult ;P
What?
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
oldarney said:
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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The way tmobile explained it to me was they noticed ppl using it and changed their service if your using it and not getting the message its only a matter of time according to the reps I spoke to. I'm thinking the more data you use that gets picked up as being sent through mobile ap the quicker they catch on and slap you with the message and put a stop to it
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So I'm still getting the tmobile page when I tether to my computer even when using wif tether for root users... this sucks :-/
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oldarney said:
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default.
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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I'm on T-mobile prepaid monthly 4g plan, rooted running GingerClone ROM on my Sidekick 4g, and I've had no problem tethering. (mostly just testing it out to see if it works, running speed tests etc.)
I can see how T-mobile cracks down on post-paid plans running stock software, but with a prepaid plan on a wifi-sharing-capable phone with a custom ROM, I'm in the clear, right? T-mobile can't block tethering or charge me for it?
But ya, charging $14.99 to tether using data that you're already paying for is a complete scam. Seems like a class action suit waiting to happen.

Throttle Fix 100% works every phone

Okay this requires you to have another IMEI number so if you have a Infuse you will need either a iPhone a BlackBerry or a LTE phone's IMEI number
Call AT&T tell them you need to update your IMEI # and update the Unlimited Data plan to the Unlimited Data plan for that phone. I used a Skyrocket IMEI for NY Infuse they took a few minutes updating it and once I got off the phone I went into Airplane mode and out of Airplane mode and had full speeds again.
Everytime you are throttled call back give them the old IMEI # and have them update the Data Plan again for full speeds!
No need to change your APN!
Hit Thanks if this helps you!
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This is a SERIOUS security concern that the govt. doesn't deal with easy. IMEI numbers are used to track phones, esp when they want to point in on law breakers.
I would NOT suggest anyone doing this.
One reprieve is that you are not physically changing the IMEI of your device. But I am still unsure of how ethical this is.
Edit: Also, if I am not wrong, IMEI number is transmitted every time you place or receive a call.
Yes but if you own the phone
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i told you all they slow you down by the device!
i was slowed down on my infuse, then i got my blackberry and my speeds where back to normal!
i guess i'll start carrying another device. root it and then just use tether hotspot when i get throttled.
I tried putting my sim into my buddies g-note and I was still throttled!
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i guess i'll start carrying another device. root it and then just use tether hotspot when i get throttled.
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Yeah. And then you will get the email telling you to stop tethering and then if you don't you will be pushed through to the tethering plan.
Optimus, I think that bbs are different. There plans are weird. For instance, you can tether to a playbook and whatnot.
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Just change IMEI's to another device of yours that has a different data plan as long as its a smart phone it'll fix it
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The other issue to think about is that there are different data plans, even for the same level. For example, there is a $30 3GB smartphone 3G plan, $30 3GB iPhone plan, $30 3GB iPhone 4S plan, $30 3GB smartphone 4G plan, etc. They may all seem the same to you, but when your bill comes you could end up with pro-rated charges for each one.
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It still equals the same
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Simple answer: Use the phone data plan as a phone data plan, and not as replacement to home internet.
Whatever you do, you'll get caught one way or other. And changing IMEI's can have really bad consequences, even if you own the other device. Just saying.
diablo009 said:
Simple answer: Use the phone data plan as a phone data plan, and not as replacement to home internet.
Whatever you do, you'll get caught one way or other. And changing IMEI's can have really bad consequences, even if you own the other device. Just saying.
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You can always change it back right after your done it will still work.
Please stop flaming because people who barely use the internet are being throttled
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diablo009 said:
This is a SERIOUS security concern that the govt. doesn't deal with easy. IMEI numbers are used to track phones, esp when they want to point in on law breakers.
I would NOT suggest anyone doing this.
One reprieve is that you are not physically changing the IMEI of your device. But I am still unsure of how ethical this is.
Edit: Also, if I am not wrong, IMEI number is transmitted every time you place or receive a call.
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Nothing illegal about switching your SIM to another phone and having AT&T update their database with the correct data plan. The government couldn't care less about this since you're not cloning or changing the IMEI of the phones.
Thank you, this was just away I got my internet back to working condition after I used 2.3 GB's of Data...
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You can always change it back right after your done it will still work.
Please stop flaming because people who barely use the internet are being throttled
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****. Meant to quote not thank.
My answer. Lol. That's all. Diablo knows his stuff.
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we need to figure out a working apn fix or something else..
As of right now there are only TWO apn's AT&T uses except iPhones they have 3 one is for Voicemail.
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diablo009 said:
Simple answer: Use the phone data plan as a phone data plan, and not as replacement to home internet.
Whatever you do, you'll get caught one way or other. And changing IMEI's can have really bad consequences, even if you own the other device. Just saying.
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this !!!
guy brought is phone today and said i need to return it i asked why he says its burning up ( heat ) i simple asked what have you need doing with it when it heats up . he said and i quote using it to play MW3 on xbox live ...
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this !!!
guy brought is phone today and said i need to return it i asked why he says its burning up ( heat ) i simple asked what have you need doing with it when it heats up . he said and i quote using it to play MW3 on xbox live ...
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So you work for a phone store? Hmm.. Do you have the phone that ATT (I asdumr) gives you. And that's hilarious. Tell him to put a fan over it, turn it sideways and take the battery cover off. It cools it down real fast. I had to take the battery cover off after watching an or so of the Mentlist.. . On my phone. Not tethering.
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lol i only tether (Only to my Ps3) when my home internet which we paid about $60 a month (Xfinity Comcast) for isn't working.

Got charged $150 by T-mobile for WiFi call roaming.....

Was in France, used T-mobile WiFi calling feature and got billed just like I haven't used it at all..... THIS IS NUTS....Is T-Mobile trying to rip me off or did WiFi calling not work on CM ROM. I obviously know how to use it and even showed my friend who by the way did NOT get charged.
So yes, WiFi calling icon showed its active and connected while I made the calls....
kolyan said:
Was in France, used T-mobile WiFi calling feature and got billed just like I haven't used it at all..... THIS IS NUTS....Is T-Mobile trying to rip me off or did WiFi calling not work on CM ROM. I obviously know how to use it and even showed my friend who by the way did NOT get charged.
So yes, WiFi calling icon showed its active and connected while I made the calls....
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Was your phone in Airplane Mode?
I don't think WiFi calling works in air plane mode
If you turn your phone in airplane mode, then turn on WiFi, it should work.
Just call up t mobile. They usually sort those things out for you.
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zoppp said:
Just call up t mobile. They usually sort those things out for you.
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I did. They say they cannot guaranty free Wifi-calling roaming....and the only thing they can offer is $80 credit with 2-year contract extension.\
I am just too tired to argue.....it says on Tmobile website NO ROAMING CHARGES, I asked to see Terms and Condition for Wifi-calling where they dont guaranty it and rep says they dont have it.....
I have no proof that I used Wifi calling and all they see are my calls without any Wifi-calling.....
The Wi-Fi calling does not work in airplane mode... Skype, text plus work strictly in Wi-Fi with ap mode on. Wi-Fi calling requires a cell connection to register. I just finished a deployment in the middleast and used the Wi-Fi calling feature, no extra charges. I'm rooted using weapon gingerbread.
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seangprice said:
The Wi-Fi calling does not work in airplane mode... Skype, text plus work strictly in Wi-Fi with ap mode on. Wi-Fi calling requires a cell connection to register. I just finished a deployment in the middleast and used the Wi-Fi calling feature, no extra charges. I'm rooted using weapon gingerbread.
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I know 110% that I was on active Wifi-Calling. Does this feature need some sort of activation besides the already included Wifi-Calling app ?
Lol you should say that it's a software issue that t mobile ignored and you expected the phone to function without extra charges.
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And I though they never know. LOL
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Well, at least we all will know in case of travel abroad: either bring a US VPN account or do without.
oh well, i extended my contract and got my $80 back. i figured i am probably gonna get One S anyway, so now I dont have a choice and will be buying One S when it comes out since i am already under contract.
I don't have WiFi calling because I am not with T-Mobile. Instead, I use airplane mode with WiFi turned on and use Skype which gaurantees that there's no roaming charges. That will work for any phone which has WiFi and Skype anywhere in the world.
WiFi calling uses your plan's minutes, unless you strictly went WiFi with the Groove IP+Google Voice route. I'm not surprised they whooped you with an extravagant phone bill from you "roaming" internationally.
I've used WiFi calling in Australia, Brazil, Canada, and the Philippines. I've never got a single charge from T-Mobile.
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phatpaw said:
I've used WiFi calling in Australia, Brazil, Canada, and the Philippines. I've never got a single charge from T-Mobile.
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thats how its supposed to be. i have NO idea what happened to me. i only see 2 reasons: 1. problem with custom ROM or 2. T-mobile has to actually enable Wifi-calling on their side in order to avoid roaming charges.
of course maybe its just a glitch in the system. after all how many people use this to avoid roaming fees....very few, so i really have ZERO proof.
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thats how its supposed to be. i have NO idea what happened to me. i only see 2 reasons: 1. problem with custom ROM or 2. T-mobile has to actually enable Wifi-calling on their side in order to avoid roaming charges.
of course maybe its just a glitch in the system. after all how many people use this to avoid roaming fees....very few, so i really have ZERO proof.
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One way to figure it out without costing you $$$ is to take your phone to T-Mobile and use one of their store's SIM cards to try out the setup you used for WiFi Calling. If you discover the cause for being charged while using WiFi Calling, post it here.
That's why I'm always careful to not enable any roaming with data, hits you hard. :/
kolyan said:
Was in France, used T-mobile WiFi calling feature and got billed just like I haven't used it at all..... THIS IS NUTS....Is T-Mobile trying to rip me off or did WiFi calling not work on CM ROM. I obviously know how to use it and even showed my friend who by the way did NOT get charged.
So yes, WiFi calling icon showed its active and connected while I made the calls....
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just a few days ago my wife's g2x wifi was on, and showed connected, but it wasn't. I had to reboot the phone for it to be truly connected to my wifi. She was using carrier data and didn't even know it!
I'm just sayin!
princeasi said:
just a few days ago my wife's g2x wifi was on, and showed connected, but it wasn't. I had to reboot the phone for it to be truly connected to my wifi. She was using carrier data and didn't even know it!
I'm just sayin!
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my data and data roaming was disabled. < thats another lol story how i decided to do some web browsing in Switzerland and got billed about $70 bucks. i had no idea that 1MB of data could cost $15 bucks, while calls are very reasonably priced.
another word of advice while abroad, NEVER use pay phones in airport or hotels ! Use you Tmobile phone instead. Many if not most of those are scam businesses not controlled by any FCC

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