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I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
pdamd said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
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1 Run QuickGPS
2 Ensure that in Tomtom GPS is configured as other NMEA, comm 4, and 4800.
I have the same problem. Did you wait long enough? It takes about 10s or more to initialize TomTom itself and then he starts looking for a GPS device. And indeed I ran QuickGPS too, good practice
pdamd said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
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If you read the HTC documentation, you'll see that you've to first (before installing the TomTom software) run the QuickGPS fix application. After that, install your TomTom SW, your card. Normally you won't have to change anything to the GPS configuration. The TomTom SW come configured with "Internal GPS Antenna" and should work like this.
Of course you have to be outside when you run the GPS
Be patient the first time. My Polaris take about 2 to 5 minutes before initializing the GPS. After that, 10 to 20 secs is generally needed to initialize the GPS (cold start).
you've to first (before installing the TomTom software) run the QuickGPS fix application
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I didn't run quickgps before installing tomtom and it works perfectly.
I reinstall TomTom and choose other NMEA, com 4, 2400.
I will also try with 4800.
In my case, the gps is incredible. It fix gps in 10 to 20 seconds.
Ziggy
pdamd said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
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Hi,
Mine works just fine. However, when I start TomTom I also get the message "No GPS Device!" bottom left. After a while it changes to "Waiting for a valid GPS signal..." This is typical if you are not receieving any GPS info because the device can't 'see' the satellites. On the bottom right of the screen you will see 5 'strength' indicators. Tap on this to bring up the next screen. At the top right there will be a battery strength indicator. Under this there is again a signal strenth indicator (with text 0 satelites). Tap on this and you should get the GPS Status screen. Tapping the 'configure button' should show the 'built-in GPS receiver' - tap Select to return. Once you move your device to a position where it can 'see' some satelites this will be shown on the GPS status screen.
In summary, the message really means 'no GPS signal' rather than no GPS device present.
Cheers
Michael
GPS not working, please help!
Hi my friends!
I can't get GPS to work on my TC!!
I know I have to run quickgps first, but ONCE I did, and since that I always get the message that it couldn't connect, try later. I know that there is a file here that I can install on the device, and I did it successfully, but nothing changed.
I have installed the program on the device, it prompted me that it will replace the existing one, and I ran it after a soft reset. Still can't connect.
What is strange for me, is that I have downloaded a program called sirftech, that can tell on which port my built-in device is listening on, but it couldn't find my gps device. It founds somethings on com7 and com9 but to no avail.
on com4 at 4800 nothing happens.
I also install iGO 2006 which is quite familiar here in Europe, but it also cant nor detect neither use any gps. I have been waiting for 20 minutes with this program to get the satellite data, but nothing.
I am lost here!
Anybody having the same problem?
Or my device may be faulty???
moire76 said:
Hi my friends!
I can't get GPS to work on my TC!!
I know I have to run quickgps first, but ONCE I did, and since that I always get the message that it couldn't connect, try later. I know that there is a file here that I can install on the device, and I did it successfully, but nothing changed.
I have installed the program on the device, it prompted me that it will replace the existing one, and I ran it after a soft reset. Still can't connect.
What is strange for me, is that I have downloaded a program called sirftech, that can tell on which port my built-in device is listening on, but it couldn't find my gps device. It founds somethings on com7 and com9 but to no avail.
on com4 at 4800 nothing happens.
I also install iGO 2006 which is quite familiar here in Europe, but it also cant nor detect neither use any gps. I have been waiting for 20 minutes with this program to get the satellite data, but nothing.
I am lost here!
Anybody having the same problem?
Or my device may be faulty???
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My GPS run well on my TC. First of all, I think it is normal that the program "SirfTech" don't find your GPS because the GPS Chipset into the Touch Cruise isn't a Sirf but it is integrated into the Qualcomm 7200 (processor).
Now to come back to your problem I suggest you to redo the TomTom installation. But before, insure to uninstall the previous version (not apply as an update).
Uninstall TomTom
Restart your device
Run QuickGPS
Reinstall TomTom (from the HTC CD). Install it into the main memory of your device, not on the storage card !
Restart your device
Launch TomTom / configure it
Check the configuration of your GPS (into "Change preferences" => "Show GPS Status" => "Configure" (Select your GPS receiver)
Built-in GPS received should be selected by default. If it is not the case, choose this option
Go outside and wait 1 to 5 minutes (should be less). Normally TomTom will work.
Hope it help.
I had the same problem yesterday. The GPS had functionned well but suddenly it would not start anymore. Once I switched the unit off (press the on/off button for about 5 secs) and on again it worked without problems. Probably you can just do a soft reset by pushing the resetbutton.
Thank you for you answer!!!
I have never installed tom tom, because I already have another navigation software, igo. the problem is that i cannot run quickgps, it is saying "Connection failed. Please try again later."
I already downloaded and installed the quickgps found on this forum, but it is the same.
so does it make any sense installing any program until I can't run quickgps?
or should the gps work also without quickgps just slower at startup?
(offtopic: and why my device sometimes does start charging if I connect to usb cable, and sometimes it does not??)
moire76 said:
Thank you for you answer!!!
I have never installed tom tom, because I already have another navigation software, igo. the problem is that i cannot run quickgps, it is saying "Connection failed. Please try again later."
I already downloaded and installed the quickgps found on this forum, but it is the same.
so does it make any sense installing any program until I can't run quickgps?
or should the gps work also without quickgps just slower at startup?
(offtopic: and why my device sometimes does start charging if I connect to usb cable, and sometimes it does not??)
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Which ROM are you using ?
Thank you for your post, but I have already tried both the restart and the reset button, but nor helped.
I am getting nervous.
But I have found a solution to my off-topic question: There was a check marked saying "Do not charge the device when turned on and connected to PC" In settings > Power. After I unchecked, it charges from usb even turned on.
I hope that my gps problem is so easy as well, but I just simply can't get it to work...
edsel said:
I had the same problem yesterday. The GPS had functionned well but suddenly it would not start anymore. Once I switched the unit off (press the on/off button for about 5 secs) and on again it worked without problems. Probably you can just do a soft reset by pushing the resetbutton.
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Thank you, it is
1.25.405.1 wwe; dated 12/11/07
radio is 1.58.21.23
protocol: 25.65.30.04h
academic said:
Which ROM are you using ?
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SOLVED!!!
Dear friends!
Thank you all for your kind help!
I have solved the GPS problem.
I am so stupid that I couldn't find this solution earlier...
So, Under Settings there is an option called External GPS.
It was not set up correctly. Now the GPS program port is set to COM1, the hardware port is (none), baud rate is 4800, and checkbox is checked, this is important. And igo is set manually to use com1.
Now iGO is able to seen 6 satellites from my desk near to the closed window!!
It is not yet found the position but it is working on it (i am patient as quickgps is still not working)
Thank you all and I hope I will help someone else later.
Moire
What device are you using? I have an HTC p3300 and have had this problem foreverr.
NO GPS Device!!! Please help
I bought my HTC TC yesterday. I previously used the Kaiser.
I've flashed to Bepe rom and then installed Tomtom from the CD.
I have not not been able to get any GPS signal yet.
I have read this thread but it still does not work. The yellow and blue icon on the GPS status screen doesnt move either. I have updated the quickGPS software but it didnt help.
I hve off course chosen internal GPS antenna in the configuration part.
Should I configurate the external GPS application or is it irrelevant anyway since I am not using it? and if yes how? What should be the settings (if this is relevant)?
Should I maybe change my Radio version? Can it help?
Please help
Thanks
Edit: After 2 days of trying it, no it works, I was ready to hard reset and installed sprite back-up. I have no idea why it did not work and why it is working now...
Anyway
my first polaris had the problem to get the position after 10-20 min outside a building , and then the sat-Bars on tomtom sat-konfig jumps around with every satellit forever. sometimes my car goes 347km/h ))). so when i press with my fingers hard on the back near the camera, it fixes the Position on gps. This seems to be a contactproblem between the gps-Antenna and the Receiver. I send it back, got a new one, now it runs like it shut.
it shut also run without quickgps, it only starts slower. Quickgps is just downloading a little database with the sattellites what are now in sight.
otherwise the gps-rec has to wait, to get all sats what are now on the horizon .
i think you have a connectionproblem to the internetserver from witch qgps get the data, if you can surf the internet with the polari, qgps shut download.
hope it helps
Piki
Sorry - not a development issue as such but I'm hoping you guys can help with another HTC Touch Pro (A)GPS query. I have read a number of other posts on this but they appear to be inconclusive and I'm not sure if the problems widely reported elsewhere are supposed to have been resolved in the latest shipped ROMS.
I'm experiencing very long acquisition times with the internal GPS on the O2 XDA Serra (just released in the UK), to the point where the GPS is virtually unusable. Cold lock can take anywhere between 15 and 30 minutes, even in open ground in good weather with a clear view of satellites. By comparison, a Garmin eTrex Vista in the same location gets a lock in seconds. I never expected the XDA Serra to equal the performance of a dedicated handheld GPS but I would have expected it to get an initial lock in less than 5 minutes in clear sight.
If and when a lock is acquired, it seems to hold OK and I've experienced no major lag problems.
I'm using Tom Tom Navigator 5, Memory Map Pocket Navigator OS 5 and Google Maps. I've also installed a couple of GPS utilities from this forum - Chartcross GPS Test 1.04 and the HTC GPS Tool v1.1.1.0. These are all configured to point to COM4 at 38400 baud (as per advice in this forum), and I've never had a problem detecting the GPS.
What is bizarre and frustrating is that there is absolutely no mention of GPS functionality in the supplied O2 manual, other than a brief warning about not operating a GPS while driving. The XDA Serra is not supplied with any GPS software or utilities out of the box other than an "External GPS" utility in the System folder, which is completely undocumented. I'm unclear in what circumstances you are supposed to use this utility, but I'm assuming it allows you to set a hardware COM port for an external GPS device (presumably bluetooth?) and select whether or not it is managed by Windows. I've tried turning this off but it appears to make no difference.
I'm aware that the XDA Serra is AGPS capable but I'm unclear exactly what this means in this context (i.e. which particular AGPS technique it actually uses), and how - in the absence of an explicit Program or System setting - my installed GPS applications are supposed to invoke it. I have checked the relevant registry settings in HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS:
EnableAGPS 0x00000000 (0)
GPSMode 0x00000002 (2)
Number Fixes 0x3b9ac9ff (9999999999)
QoS Accuracy 0x00000032 (50)
QoS Performance 0x00000059 (89)
Server IP 10.1.101.63
Server Port 0x00001cb6 (7275)
TimeBetweenFixes 0x00000001 (1)
... and can see that the AGPS function is currently disabled (the default), but is this supposed to be enabled programmatically by the GPS application, or do you have to set it explicitly? If the latter, how can you do this other than by hacking the registry?
I have followed advice in this forum about disabling GPS logging (it was disabled by default) using the Schapman Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3.0.0. I have tried enabling the AGPS function using a registry editor, but again it appears to make no difference. In addition, I could see no evidence of it having downloaded an emphemeris file anywhere (unless it's hidden in system ROM), which I presume is how it is supposed to work? If I enable it, doesn this necessarily mean that any of my GPS apps will actually use it?
I have tried using SeaSGEE to download emphemeris data to no avail - it downloads what looks like a good packedEmphemeris.ee file OK but it makes absolutely no difference to performance. I have since uninstalled this and deleted the //windows/packedEmphemeris.ee file.
Finally, if I connect an external bluetooth GPS adapter (the Emtac BTGPS) on COM6 I generally get a good cold lock in less than a minute. I used this all the time on my old XDA Mini S (HTC Wizard) and never had a problem.
So, basically, I'd like to understand how native AGPS works on the Touch Po, how it is supposed to be invoked by GPS applications, and whether there are any tweaks I can try to improve performance over and above the ones I've already tried. Is this a problem that is likely to be improved in subsequent ROM or Radio versions or is this simply a fundamental limitation of a crappy internal GPS chip?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
AGPS
AGPS is basically a utility for operator to be able to track your device for various local ads etc. It uses servers to track instead of GPS.For example Google maps would be able to track your position inside building but with tolerance of a few miles (I guess it is your closest tower) Seems to be some kind of bug when operating with regular GPS (in my case it shuts off GPS every 10-15 seconds making Tomtom unusable.You should see settings for AGPS at Settings-System-AGPS. Disable both tabs. On tomtom use other wired GPS receiver at Baud rate 38400 com port 4. restart after setting AGPS. It did work for me.I have Fuze - same as HTC Touch Pro. Let me know if it works better.
This is exactly how the Fuze is acting. Cold locks (after a soft reset or power off/on) take up to 30 minutes to get. But once you do get a lock, things work as they should. Even AT&T sales reps sat there with me, with 3 different Fuzes and witnessed all three phones doing the same thing. It must be the built in GPS chipset. The Sprint Touch Pro I had for a week, never had any cold lock issues.
I was worried that O2 had modified versions without the GPS module becuase I have never managed to get a lock with the device. Nomatter what I do GPS doesn't seem to work.
It is annoying as I've managed to fix every other problem the Serra ships with. Including getting rid of the default home page for opera when launched vial TFL3D. That was a huge pain in the ass as the XML file cannot be deleted or modified easily, it is an undying file. Damn file protectiona and access rules on WM devices.
is there still isues with gps on this phone?
i'm due an upgrade, currently using a diamond, and find gps is fantastic, locks in a couple of seconds nearly everytime, even after not using it for week still seems to get a fix in under 20 seconds, was looking at the touch hd as i thought it was essentialy the same phone, buf beefed up a bit, but i use gps 3-4 hours everyday, so far this phone seems perfect apart from the gps issues..
i've tried searching but can't find any clear information about it, seen various tweaks but no one can confirm it definatly works, my phone's primary use is gps, would i be a fool to upgrade to the serra?
Tyr said:
I was worried that O2 had modified versions without the GPS module becuase I have never managed to get a lock with the device. Nomatter what I do GPS doesn't seem to work.
It is annoying as I've managed to fix every other problem the Serra ships with. Including getting rid of the default home page for opera when launched vial TFL3D. That was a huge pain in the ass as the XML file cannot be deleted or modified easily, it is an undying file. Damn file protectiona and access rules on WM devices.
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OK. I had the same problem, never got locked on GPS.
It is ALL software issue. Flash different rom, new radio (recommend 20M1) and use tomtom7. Older tomtoms for some reason do not invoke gps receiver on touch pro. GPS on serra works perfect, on mine it takes about 20-30 seconds to get satellite lock. Relax Just flash rom different that the o2 one.
The GPS is rock solid on my XDA Serra with fast GPS start-up times with the PROven ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444653.
I did have GPS problems with the standard O2 ROM, as others have said it's a software issue.
All issues have been SOLVED
Hi. just go to this post and you will have a gps lock in a matter of seconds. enjoy. thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467374
Go to http://www.my-xda.com/software_updates.jsp to download the latest software updates for every O2 XDA mobile!
Yes I just updated my ROM and the difference is HUGE. Almost instant connection with my GPS.
Yes, apparently O2 removed QuickGPS because at some point they planned to enable their own AGPS servers, but did not get round to it and forgot to add back QuickGPS.......
The Avatar said:
Yes I just updated my ROM and the difference is HUGE. Almost instant connection with my GPS.
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hi the avatar
which ROM did you go for on your serra, i am having similar probs
just when i thought i had sorted it following other suggestions on this forum, beginning to think the gps was single use
cheers
r
If you use a program like visualGPSce, you may notice that you can see lots of satellites, but you can't get a fix. I managed to fix it by:
1) Setting my log file to 3200bytes (using advanced config)
2) Disabling aGPS
3) I then turned off the phone, took out the battery for 10-20 seconds and replaced it.
4) Ran the quickgps program
5) Managed to get a fix and have it working quite fast!
I don't think all of this is necessary, but I have a theory:
I have a holux gpsslim 236B and sometimes it exhibits similar behaviour if you send it screwed up commands. The way to fix that was to remove the battery and then open the case to short out the backup battery (Yep, they were so helpful in enabling it to "remember" your corrupt settings). Reassemble and the gps device works fine. I get a feeling that the raphael may also benefit from such treatment (a forced reset on the gps module).
The only other theory I have is that the gps log file was corrupt (I couldn't delete it so I just made another one) and maybe that fixed it.
I've only given it limited testing, but if it breaks, I'll let you know so you don't waste your time!
I noticed my GPS performance was much better when I set my gpslogfile to 32KB as opposed to setting it's size to 0.
Just my 2c.
Isn't the quickgps tool for agps?
So either the disabling of agps or the quickgps is not necessary
ledg3 said:
I noticed my GPS performance was much better when I set my gpslogfile to 32KB as opposed to setting it's size to 0.
Just my 2c.
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what's the logic/reasoning behind adjusting he gpslog file? i occasionally use GPS/tomtom though i would probably consider using it more frequently if getting a signal lock didn't take anywhere from 5-15 minutes.
i currently have disabled agps (no data plan so it's useless anyway) and have no logfile set to 0 as per the suggested settings i saw on fuzemobility.com post.
Can you post the file you used to load QuickGPS? I tried to download one but could not get it to run on my XDA Serra.
@kimbja98
how long has it been working? get back to us after a month or so of solid performance... the GPS issues seem to be so random that doing almost anything can seem like it fixes it... but i hope you're right
Just used it on the train on the way into work and it was fine, took about 2 minutes to get a location.
One thing I think may have been the problem is that it thinks it should see X satellites but obviously can't and gets confused (even if there are others in clear view), which may be down to agps, quickgps (I'm not sure if they're the same thing) or corrupted log file but now those satellites it can't see get dropped from the list (you can see this happening in VisualGPSce) and it gets a location after about 5 or 6 have been found. The holux seems to get positions at 4 (which theoretically, is the minimum but could be done with 3 if altitude is negligable) but that uses the sirfstar III chipset...I don't know what the raphael uses though.
I should mention I use ROMeOS 1.40 and that may have something to do with it. Either way, I'll be giving it some fairly rigorous testing. If it does break, I'll know how long it took and it may be that the log file got full and if it that, some regular deleting may be called for.
kimbja98 said:
If you use a program like visualGPSce, you may notice that you can see lots of satellites, but you can't get a fix. I managed to fix it by:
1) Setting my log file to 3200bytes (using advanced config)
2) Disabling aGPS
3) I then turned off the phone, took out the battery for 10-20 seconds and replaced it.
4) Ran the quickgps program
5) Managed to get a fix and have it working quite fast!
I don't think all of this is necessary, but I have a theory:
I have a holux gpsslim 236B and sometimes it exhibits similar behaviour if you send it screwed up commands. The way to fix that was to remove the battery and then open the case to short out the backup battery (Yep, they were so helpful in enabling it to "remember" your corrupt settings). Reassemble and the gps device works fine. I get a feeling that the raphael may also benefit from such treatment (a forced reset on the gps module).
The only other theory I have is that the gps log file was corrupt (I couldn't delete it so I just made another one) and maybe that fixed it.
I've only given it limited testing, but if it breaks, I'll let you know so you don't waste your time!
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YES, your method seems to be one of working the best.
Congratulation.
I use the mix of some methods in the forum, and my GPS reception is quite good, even in my room inside!!
MY CONCLUSION:
1. to get rid of useless stuffs from the system (which also bad for the sat reception), use
[ROM] [WWE]RAPHAEL WM6.1 V05 - Build 20758.1.4.1 - pdaviet.net (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438488&highlight=20758.1.4.1) and
[RADIO] Raphael Radio 1.02.25.28 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437219)
(before installing these ROM, the first step should be installing the HARD-SPL to save your device (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150)
2. to get a really quick fix,
take the battery out, as mentioned above, for a few minutes, to clear the GPS memory. (You can try for example igo now, you will see nothing on the sat view at this time...).
After that download QuickGPS data (the ROM I mentioned has a correct quickGPS data download!) If you see iGO sat view this time, you will see a lot of red dots immediately, and after a not too long waiting, you'll have fix)
3. to make the GPS even faster,
adjust the baudrate to 38400 (with comport4) in your navigation program. (But leave port4 and baud4800 settings in the Windows Mobile settings!!)
4. there could be some navi software, which couldn't get fix (iGO yes, for example Googlemapsmobile not every time), use GPStest (http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp), select com4 and baud 38400 also, minimize, and run the other navi. It WILL work!
5. after getting a fast signal, in order to get rid of lag while navigating, use this excellent method from the forum:
A. With Advanced config 3.2 http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/out...ol-32-cab.html
1. disable A-GPS
2. disable GPS logging
3. logfile name must be empty
4. old logfile name must be empty
5. maximum size of logfile must be 0
6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 256 (EDITED!!) (default is 4096)
- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 256 (EDITED!!) (default is 4096)
- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 256 (EDITED!!) (by default not present, you have to create it)
AND: from
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver] leave blank the followings (delete the data from inside):
"CurrentLogFile"=" "
"OldLogFile"=" "
With these settings, I have a really cool reception!!
One more thing: if you feel that the reception going worse, do the battery-taking-quickgps-using trick again!
FOR ALL THESE INFOS THANKS FOR THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM!!!!!
(ps: some series ((series "2" ?!)) have no any gps reception problem. If you have this series, be happy, and don't do anything...)
ps2: I've tried other methods also from the forum (for example Nadavi HTC GPS tool, etc.), and made hard reset on my phone many many times to try other methods, but the mix of these methods seems to work, the other ones are not really necessary. So this mix has no contains all the possible solutions from the forum, and this was not the way of selection without thinking..
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Isn't the quickgps tool for agps?
So either the disabling of agps or the quickgps is not necessary
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as I know quickgps and agps are quite different
-quickgps is downloading the latest sat positions to get faster fix
-agps is using phone cell informations also for positioning, besides the satellites
you NEED quickGPS, DO NOT USE aGPS!!!
I've seen lots of people complaining about poor GPS performance - slow to lock, not finding many sats, lag, etc.
But I can't get anything at all from my Touch Pro. I've tried several radio roms, no difference, tweaking the registry settings, and programs called GPSID Settings, GPS Test, and HTC GPS Tool, all without any success.
I believe I should be able to use the HTC GPS Tool to debug, and see the actually serial output of the onboard GPS? But I can't even do that, whatever serial port I try to open I get the message "Failed to send NMEA command...". This suggests to me that the onboard GPS is not giving any response at all, rather than not being able to lock?
Can anyone confirm 100% what com port and baud I should be able to find the on board GPS with? Is there anything else I can try?
BTW, my external B/T GPS works fine with my touch pro, but it would be nice to have the onboard GPS working too.
TP GPS always uses COM4 and any baud (I've tried 4800 to 115200).
Your post is not a "thread" yet and I doubt it will be.
Just search the other threads.
a bit dettered when reading all these GPS problems. Once I've got mine I've had no problem at al besides it showing me a bit off the road in Google Maps. as far as for settings its always been the same COM4 Baud 4800
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I've seen lots of people complaining about poor GPS performance - slow to lock, not finding many sats, lag, etc.
But I can't get anything at all from my Touch Pro. I've tried several radio roms, no difference, tweaking the registry settings, and programs called GPSID Settings, GPS Test, and HTC GPS Tool, all without any success.
I believe I should be able to use the HTC GPS Tool to debug, and see the actually serial output of the onboard GPS? But I can't even do that, whatever serial port I try to open I get the message "Failed to send NMEA command...". This suggests to me that the onboard GPS is not giving any response at all, rather than not being able to lock?
Can anyone confirm 100% what com port and baud I should be able to find the on board GPS with? Is there anything else I can try?
BTW, my external B/T GPS works fine with my touch pro, but it would be nice to have the onboard GPS working too.
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The default com port is 4. Usually most GPS application should be able to detect it automatically.
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TP GPS always uses COM4 and any baud (I've tried 4800 to 115200).
Your post is not a "thread" yet and I doubt it will be.
Just search the other threads.
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Sorry, I thought I did start a new thread, and I have searched - that's how I know about other people's GPS issues. But I haven't seen anyone else with the same problem as me yet.
I get nothing on COM4 at any baud rate.
TomTom says 'NO GPS Device'
HTC GPS Tool says "Failed to send NMEA command..." on COM4 (at all baud rates).
Google maps - when set to "Managed by Windows" just says Searching(0) and gives up after about 5 minutes.
When Google Maps is manually set to COM4 it says "Initialising.." in the top right corner then hangs, and then refuses to reload until I do a soft reset.
Is this what's supposed to happen?
No it's not.
You could have a hardware problem.
I had that issue after uninstalling google navigator 4 trial.Hard reset helped.
Also check Start > Settings > System > External GPS and make sure the Program Port is set to COM4, Hardware should be Port None and Baud at 4800 and Access tab should be checked to Manage GPS Automatically.
I have the "dreaded GPS lag" issue. I don't have this issue but I have found that my GPS is best with the Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25. I still have to wait sometimes upwards of 3 minutes for a lock sometimes when the sky is cloudy but it seems to work pretty well.
I suggest you try the following
1. Flash to the radio I mentioned above.
2. Go to Start/Settings/System/AGPS Settings
On the General tab, uncheck "Enable AGPS
On the privacy tab, select the following options:
1. Enable AGPS location information to network services. Operator can get your location information.
2. When send location info. to network services: Send postion info directly
3. Close confirmation message after: 10 second
3. Go to Start/Settings/System/External GPS and make the following changes:
On Programs tab: set GPS program port to: COM4
On Hardware tab: set GPS hardware port to: (None)
On Hardware tab: set Baud rate to: 4800
On access tab: check: Manage GPS Automatically (recommended)
4. Follow the instructions posted by omega01 here:
omega01 said:
A lot of people have problems with the TouchPro GPS especially for pedestrian use...
From stock the TP GPS is quite unsable in car especially with TomTom 7 and totally unusable for pedestrian use.
After 2 weeks of reading and testing tweaks, here are the results of my tests and the applied tweaks to enhance the GPS performance
A. With Advanced config 3.2 http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/ou...ads/9-advanced-configuration-tool-32-cab.html
1. disable A-GPS
2. disable GPS logging
3. logfile name must be empty
4. old logfile name must be empty
5. maximum size of logfile must be 0
6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
7. it seems that if TomTom is installed on a fast microSD decrease the lag(have to test to be sure)
With those changes car usage will be quite perfect
B. Then edit registry with TotalCommander http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it)
Tests to be done with buffers at 256...seems to be a little better
Tests to be done with other PollInterval value...seems to "drain" battery
With those tweaks pedestrian usage will be much better but not perfect...I explain.
You have to walk for a least 250m in order to have a reposition with mouvement on the map (before that, speed is always 0km/h) and then if you continue to walk there is quite no lag...and the speed reflect reality
...BUT if you stops you have to walk again for a least 250m in order to have a reposition with mouvement on the map and then if you continue to walk there is quite no lag...
Very strange indeed...
I hope this will help people...please test and feedback.
PS : tests were done with
TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_R3_VGA_black_edition
GoogleMaps 2.2.0.16 -- http://www.google.be/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB
GPSTuner 5.4 -- http://www.gpstuner.com/download/GPSTuner_v5.CAB
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If that doesn't help you get a better, if not good, lock with your Touch PRO then you have to have some kinda of hardware problem.
I have an HTC Fuze from USA AT&T activated on T-Mobile USA and I don't even have access to T-Mobile's AGPS Servers and my GPS locks are usually relatively quick.
Good luck!
Dan
dharvey4651 said:
I have the "dreaded GPS lag" issue. I don't have this issue but I have found that my GPS is best with the Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25. I still have to wait sometimes upwards of 3 minutes for a lock sometimes when the sky is cloudy but it seems to work pretty well.
I suggest you try the following
1. Flash to the radio I mentioned above.
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I've been using .25.25 radio for the last week, changed to 1.09.25.35 today, but no improvement.
dharvey4651 said:
2. Go to Start/Settings/System/AGPS Settings
On the General tab, uncheck "Enable AGPS
On the privacy tab, select the following options:
1. Enable AGPS location information to network services. Operator can get your location information.
2. When send location info. to network services: Send postion info directly
3. Close confirmation message after: 10 second
3. Go to Start/Settings/System/External GPS and make the following changes:
On Programs tab: set GPS program port to: COM4
On Hardware tab: set GPS hardware port to: (None)
On Hardware tab: set Baud rate to: 4800
On access tab: check: Manage GPS Automatically (recommended)
4. Follow the instructions posted by omega01 here:
If that doesn't help you get a better, if not good, lock with your Touch PRO then you have to have some kinda of hardware problem.
I have an HTC Fuze from USA AT&T activated on T-Mobile USA and I don't even have access to T-Mobile's AGPS Servers and my GPS locks are usually relatively quick.
Good luck!
Dan
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Rechecked all my settings, but they were all already as above. Still no joy. Only other possibility is that it's being crippled by the ROM I'm using - stock 1.90.206.4 WWE O2 UK variant, although no one else seems to be having the same problem. I am trying to avoid reflashing the main ROM, as it would take hours to get all my programs and settings back to how I want them. Maybe when the 2.0 firmware is released...
I guess it could be a hardware fault, but it seems a bit of a long shot. I really don't fancy my chances of trying to convince o2 that it's a hardware fault.
Try this...
1. Install and configure SecondToday to the left soft-key
2. Install HTC Home Plugin for VGA
3. Install GPSToday plugin and configure it to 5 minute manual-on
4. Go to Start/Settings/Personal/Today and disable all but TouchFlo 3D
5. On your new SecondToday, enable HTC Home and GPSToday
6. On HTC Home's Programs Tab, add your favorite GPS program(TomTom, Garmin, Google Maps, Etc...)
7. Start GPSToday by clicking on the little red box on the far left. It may take about 2 minutes on the first try(it's this way after every soft-reset) but after that it should be much faster. As soon as you are locked on to 4 or more satelites start your favorite GPS program that you added to the programs tab of HTC home.
If it works like it did for me, you should be set. I now get GPS locks in less than 10 seconds every "second time" since it takes about 2 mins after each soft-reset.
You can download all the files I mentioned above here:
http://download.ppchaven.com/CDMA Devices/HTC Vogue/Users/dharvey/CABS/CAB FILES.rar
Good luck!!
mike-b said:
Maybe when the 2.0 firmware is released...
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IF you mean, not when
dharvey4651 said:
Try this...
1. Install and configure SecondToday to the left soft-key
2. Install HTC Home Plugin for VGA
3. Install GPSToday plugin and configure it to 5 minute manual-on
4. Go to Start/Settings/Personal/Today and disable all but TouchFlo 3D
5. On your new SecondToday, enable HTC Home and GPSToday
6. On HTC Home's Programs Tab, add your favorite GPS program(TomTom, Garmin, Google Maps, Etc...)
7. Start GPSToday by clicking on the little red box on the far left. It may take about 2 minutes on the first try(it's this way after every soft-reset) but after that it should be much faster. As soon as you are locked on to 4 or more satelites start your favorite GPS program that you added to the programs tab of HTC home.
If it works like it did for me, you should be set. I now get GPS locks in less than 10 seconds every "second time" since it takes about 2 mins after each soft-reset.
You can download all the files I mentioned above here:
http://download.ppchaven.com/CDMA Devices/HTC Vogue/Users/dharvey/CABS/CAB FILES.rar
Good luck!!
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Thanks for that. I've given it a try and it doesn't get a lock or even see a single satellite for me. I assume the number in the green box that appears next to the satellite symbol is the number of satellites it can see? It never changes from 0 anyway.
I've never seen a single satellite with the onboard GPS, nevermind gotten a position locked. Beginning to think it's a hardware fault, or my phone got missed when they were putting the GPS in! Convincing O2 that there's a fault will be one thing, then I'll have to flash it back to stock, including the stock bootloader before I send it in.
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IF you mean, not when
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That's why I put a string of dots on the end ot it...
Don't you think it's imminent, why would they release it for diamond and not touch pro?
I had the same problem for about 2 months, could never get a signal. It was solved when I changed ROM's. I actually tried like 7 ROM's and GPS didn't work in 6 of them. Once I tried RSW's ROM with updated GPS Drivers,,, I am able to always get a GPS signal now.
I do use 2 programs though.
1. QuickGPS to download GPS data.
2. Chartcross GPS Test to open my GPS Port.
Then I open up any GPS program and they all work. (Google Maps, Live Search, iGuidance)
COM Port should be COM4 obviously. When I've used a few GPS programs that "scanned" my phone, they all set the baud rate to 9600. You can't change the baud rate in Settings, but if you have to manually set your baud rate in your program, set it to 9600.
GPS reception significantly affected by case.
Just a FYI. I was a Fuze owner with significant problems with GPS. Could not get it to connect to anything for anything with anything. After trying everything I found on the forum I followed the instructions on this thread ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473481&highlight=lock. and got a lock in under ten minutes. Put my phone back in the case and could no longer get a lock. It then dawned on me that my aluminum case was interfering with the gps chip. Did a bunch of tests which confirmed the reception improved drastically outside the case. It doesn't seem to influence the radio reception however which I find a bit strange. Anyway. My gps works reasonably well and I think people will benefit from knowing something as simple as the choice of case could have something to do with their gps reception.
basically the only program i can get to work with my GPS location is google maps and its usually off a few city blocks. no other prgram can even get my location including sprint navigator. is there anything i can do to help fix this problem?
Have you downloaded the satelittes via quick gps? If so did you make sure to enable GPS in the programs? I know for google maps you have to do Menu > Settings > Enable GPS
This might fix all your GPS troubles
I used to have a big problem with my GPS too. I installed the GPS Mod Driver by Mach2003 and now applications like TomTom and Navigon are able to find my GPS far quicker and I have more control over my GPS settings.
How it works is by simply creating a layer between the GPS native driver and the application. This layer, communicates with both the native driver and the application and is pretty robust. It gets the job done better than the native driver could by providing extra options like cell tower triangulation and path guessing.
Try it, it might fix your problem.
The forum link is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4729010#post4729010
Mach2003 said:
This Driver installs between your gps application and the GPSID driver that reads the hardware gps data.
Lag is compensated, by guessing your position 'some number' of milliseconds in the future, current course and speed changes are included in the guess.
It corrects for invalid data in the gps strings, Out of range DOP values, and Heading values of 'NaN' (Not A Number). Position, Speed, and course are reported, even though the distance traveled is less than 30 meters.
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I know it might be stupid, but have you enabled the location settings on the phone. If its not enabled googlemaps will use triangulation to get the location within a few hundred to a thousand feet. With location enabled googlemaps will get my position within about 15-20 feet. I would check that then do the other things that are posted above.
My guess is that location setting needs to be changed from 911 only to on