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Alright, this is a strange one. I'm wondering if anyone else can confirm this, although I bet few have probably noticed it.
I normally update my installed apps by going to the Market app and selecting "My Downloads." Often times I'll see "update available" and then I install the update, which wipes out the previous version.
Last week, I found an app called aTrackDog, which basically is a version tracker for your apps. It goes out and finds new versions and notifies you, so you can go download your updates. It not only follows the market, but also the app developer's homepage, in case they release their update through different mediums. I don't use it to install or uninstall, just track my versions.
This is when I started paying attention to the version numbers of a few apps. For this example, we'll talk about Advanced Task Manager and Pandora. I updated ATM from 3.5 to 3.6, and Pandora from 1.0.0 to 1.1.0. To do this, since the market didn't say there was an update, I uninstalled each app, and then reinstalled from the market. Everything was great, and each app showed its new version, from the splash screen on Pandora, to how ATM was listed in Task Panel, as version 3.6.
I just rebooted my phone because I was getting the 99% uptime thing, and wanted to mess around with killing the messages task to see if that made a difference. Much to my surprise, when my phone restarted, my phone has reverted many of my apps back to older versions.
My Advanced Task Manager now is back to version 3.5, Pandora is back to 1.0.0, and many other apps are affected.
This seems like a MAJOR BUG. Can anyone else confirm this at all?
To recreate this issue, if you have Pandora version 1.0.0 currently, or 1.1.0, uninstall and reinstall it. You then will have version 1.1.1 I believe. Then reboot your phone, and start Pandora back up. Does it still say 1.1.1?
I have found this also happens with Advanced Task Manager, and Mileage. I'm sure there's others, but those are a couple of examples. This has happened to me at least twice that I'm aware of.
EDIT-- Here's three links on other Android forums where someone else is experiencing this same thing.
http://androidforums.com/htc-hero/12577-app-updates-cause-problems-icons-etc.html
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/apps-reverting-to-old-version-27414/#post262526
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/127189
I've noticed this too. I've really noticed it with NewsRob because it will pop up a message stating " A new version is available", but the Market knows what I downloaded last so it states that there is no update. I was wondering, since I too had Atrackdog installed (not anymore) if it was an issue with that program, maybe an issue with just what version was listed in certain programs (as in some piece of code to display the version number got messed up) or if there really was automatic downgrading going on...
jakeblues55 said:
I've noticed this too. I've really noticed it with NewsRob because it will pop up a message stating " A new version is available", but the Market knows what I downloaded last so it states that there is no update. I was wondering, since I too had Atrackdog installed (not anymore) if it was an issue with that program, maybe an issue with just what version was listed in certain programs (as in some piece of code to display the version number got messed up) or if there really was automatic downgrading going on...
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I've tried to remove aTrackDog, and I'm still getting the same behavior. I really doubt that it has to do with that app, but rather the people that use that app are more aware of version numbers, and are the ones noticing it.
I'm assuming lots of people have Pandora on this board (or mileage, Advanced Task Manager or NewsRob for that matter) so we need more people to try to reproduce this issue!
What I'm trying now is to uninstall the app (in my case I'm using Pandora as it says the version number on launch) then reboot the phone, and then reinstall, use it to see the new version, and then reboot to see if it gets reverted.
What's the result? IT REVERTED AGAIN. This is definitely a bigger issue than we realize...but WE NEED PEOPLE TO REPRODUCE THIS.
EDIT:
I also emailed Pandora support to see if they can't reproduce the issue or help me figure out what's up.
I also emailed the devs for aTrackDog to see if they can't shed some light on what might be going on. Hopefully they'll be quick to help, so we can squash this biznatch.
I also posted a question in the App Market Google Forum, and hopefully someone at Google will help figure this out. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=56ff6f465d6e5e34&hl=en
I also reproduced this issue with TEN more apps:
Astro File Manager
Google Sky
Google Voice
Backgrounds
Barcode Scanner
Shop Savvy
Battery Widget
Daily Horoscope
Facebook
Movie Finder
Google, you got some 'splaining to do.
I use Astro to backup files to my SD card. After I reboot I go through all the "red" files (ones where the SD card version is newer than the installed version) and "upgrade" them with the SD card version.
Alas the Market app tends to "lose" the fact I downloaded some of these apps and no longer tracks them for updates
Something is definitely wrong somewhere.
I'm seeing the same issue, I even tried a factory reset and still happening.
You can add to the list:
Touchdown
Sipdroid
I think it is just about all apps. Even if you uninstall and reinstall the latest version seems to revert back to original version you installed for the first time.
Locale...
This happened to me this week with Locale. I had beta .68 and upgraded to beta .69.
A couple of days later, I noticed I was still running beta .68. I thought maybe they had forgotten to update the name in the app itself, but after seeing this thread, I'm betting it's an HTC Sprint Hero bug.
I also re-visited the Android Market to see if I could re-download beta .69, but it didn't recognize that the program could be updated. It must think I'm running beta .69, but I'm pretty sure I'm still rocking beta .68.
Verrrrry strange...
I just reproduced this as well, with AK Notepad.
I had 1.9.3b installed; upgraded to 1.9.4. rebooted; now it shows 1.9.3b again
I'm using modaco's rom with apps2sd setup. Is this happening on stock heros too?
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From what I've been able to gather from Handcent SMS's version changelog and look for in the actual application I have on my phone, it appears that it is only the display of the version that is reverting, not the application itself. I have this issue with Handcent and even the "about" dialog inside the application reports the older version, but I am seeing features and changes that only appear in later versions according to the changelog. We'd need a major update of an application to test this further.
edit2:
grinched from #android on EFNet helped test this on a stock CDMA Hero and was able to replicate it with Barcode Scanner.
lonequid said:
I just reproduced this as well, with AK Notepad.
I had 1.9.3b installed; upgraded to 1.9.4. rebooted; now it shows 1.9.3b again
I'm using modaco's rom with apps2sd setup. Is this happening on stock heros too?
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<ignore, wrote in wrong thread>
See my fix in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581806
gilroykilroy said:
See my fix in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581806
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I'm going to root my Hero and give this a shot tonight. A HUGE preemptive THANK YOU!!!!!
This has been driving me nuts!!!
Nathan, you might want to try this one too (maybe first)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582176
Basically the same thing, but you delete the entire cache directory instead of just the broken ones one at a time. The cache is recreated after you reboot.
mercado79 said:
Nathan, you might want to try this one too (maybe first)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582176
Basically the same thing, but you delete the entire cache directory instead of just the broken ones one at a time. The cache is recreated after you reboot.
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Just an FYI, I'm married, but I friggin love you guys!! This is why XDA is my favorite place. Such a wealth of knowledgeable and great people. Thanks again everyone, MUCH MUCH appreciated.
Ooops... forums are acting buggy.
[ROM][32A RADIO 6.35]Eclair w/ Nexus1's 3D gallery CAM & most things are working well
this ROM is for Sapphire 32A SPL 1.76.2007 and latest Radio 6.35.07.29.
pure AOSP build, google bits and gallery are added. (make sure you think you have the rights for using the apps from google, i just make some copy for you)
thx: Cursordroid, Enomother, Cyanogen, RA, jnwhiteh, ChainsDD, sober (who have full of courage for testing my first kernel ) , and more...
what's new: less crash, more stable. new gallery app which use hardware accel. a new step to full working with our new radio.
the update.zip, just push it into ur sdcard then apply it from recovery: http://www.4shared.com/file/202007372/5352e8b4/my2x.html
mirrors:
http://hotfile.com/dl/24995574/2b6c9d7/sanpei_eclair32a.zip.html , by asero, thanks
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5TH7FNC0 , by akai21, thanks
http://hoegsberg.net/fileshare/Sanpei Eclair 2.1/ , by Eukanaba, thanks
if you are a 32A user with old radio, and you want a upgrade or try this ROM, follow Cursordroid's instruction to Update your 32A Magic to 6.35.07.29 Radio and 1.76.2007 SPL
working (update: all confirmed by me or other users):
camera
gps
wifi
mobile data
sensor
lights
gps
bluetooth
openGL
Gallery3D
googlebits
working but leaving some questions open:
playback (will print error message in log, not tested with many format)
not working properly:
camcorder (only preview working)
I would not say "it is very fast", but I feel it fast enough. and if you do not care about the multi-media things, i think this build seems not bad.
(for the multi-media things, they are mostly caused by media libs in AOSP, which google have not done yet. (but i cannot understand why nexus-one can have a stable version !!!) it is not all the HTC/Qualcomm's fault, Google didn't do their job very well too)
if there are something I missed, or I made some mistake, don't be sulkiness plz. i will fix them with you. let us make it better and make more 32A user switching to new Radio, with more users, we can do better and more quickly.
file/things includes:
AOSP master, I keep it at the API version 5, because things with API 7 for other devices (except nexus1) are not stable, i don't want to pretend that we have a nexus1, and make things unstable.
su and superusers from ChainsDD.
kernel which i modified from msm-kernel-2.6.29.
libhtc_ril.so, omx libs are from a leaked official 2.x ROM. camera libs, libgps.so from another one. (thanks the man who provided them)
libhtc_acoustic.so and some miscs files from official 1.5 ROM. akmd too, but akmd from 1.6 ROM have newer version and i think it will works too.
google bits are come from different sources too:
Gallery3D/google framework parts from nexusone dump, i think Enomther deodexed them, thank you and I LOVE YOU.
Other google's things are versions used everywhere, and here are my thanks to the one dumped them --> m(_ _)m.
cyanogen's patch which is directed towards infinite sync. it may be a temporary workaround, when google do things right, i will remove it.
.......
more: lock screen and wallpaper is the eclair's initial one as AOSP source released with them. if you want other lock screen, customize it yourself, and tell me how ^^, I'm really not a good cooker .
known issues and workaround:
1. camcorder can not record, but it didn't crash anything as previous one (with my kernel, from jnwhiteh) would crash some.
2. video playback has many errors the video can be played though. just reported by logcat, and no more thing will happen in my tests.
3. if you stay in the Gallery3D UI, and the phone sleeps later, when it wake up, the Gallery3D lost hardware acceleration. you can quit and enter this app again, it will be fine.
4. first boot with google bits may not go without a hitch. you can remove all google apps in the zip (you must resign it) and push them later.if you boot with googlebits:
you will see a dialog let you choose the default behavior, select SetupWizard here. if you select another, you can not use internet during the first boot, it will say "no connection", though we are connected.
the SetupWizard will start twice, the second one is for asking you to sign in a google account, you can just press menu to quit.
and there are many lags in first boot, maybe black screen (can not light, you can "adb reboot" it) or some crash (i have met once for each and I flash it serveral times) if you operate too fast.
after second boot, it will works fine. it seems if we give the phone more time to do many initialize jobs, it will work happily even in first run.
5. with superuser, if you select deny, the app which needed the permissions may be force closed. it is a bug in su sources i used which is not belong to me and i have no time to look and fix it yet.
update:
6. when wake up the phone, screen turned on, but backlight of screen not. if you can see image, just go to setting and set brightness, then the light will open. need more reports (like situation/logcat/dmesg, etc.) to locate the problem. i encountered this problem once.
7. "died in sleep", this problem has been encountered by others, personally, i met it once during first run, after a reboot I never met it again. but I don't think this problem just appears during first run. instead, i think the situation of first run is more closed to the condition triggering it.
I think there must be more problems, let us find them together, and fix them by our hands.
update: after some search I found that some softwares (like nettraffic) will cause more "died in sleep" in some ROM/kernel/Radio combination. and many kinds of "died in sleep" can be avoid with some tweaks, but i don't know if they are same problems as ours, and i can not get what this tweaks are (or why, how..) from anywhere yet.
i am waiting for more details to fix 6 & 7. I will be grateful if someone can provide some info about similar problems, since I had seen these problems in some other ROM/kernel/Radio combination.
and guys who encountered these problems, could you provide more details plz? something like: occurred during first run/other, with situation XX (mobile/wifi/software X running, etc) which you think it caused the problem occurred more often. if you can reproduce it, we will get very closed to fixing them.
great job!
Another ROM using the latest SPL/Radio... great!
Downloading now.. will try flashing later...
Nice work sanpei!
Great job. I will try it immediatly.
Excellent, nice to see some other developers working on this radio/SPL version as well!
I will definitely be trying this out today!
Awesome will try when I get home from work.
Would it be possible to implement the Nexus apps-menu in a later build?
bug report:
The screen remains black (can't see anything) after sleeping even if I press any of the buttons. I just removed the battery then reboot.
Aside from that, it's quite fast and responsive. The transitions are nice too. Keep it up dude!
asero said:
bug report:
The screen remains black (can't see anything) after sleeping even if I press any of the buttons. I just removed the battery then reboot.
Aside from that, it's quite fast and responsive. The transitions are nice too. Keep it up dude!
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I will look into this, but I cannot locate this problem quickly, since I just met it once during a first boot, and it never appears again.
is it like the situation "die in sleep" in some build which are based on CyanogenMod? (when i was using old radio)
can you reproduce the problem and description the operations? thx.
Eskibo said:
Awesome will try when I get home from work.
Would it be possible to implement the Nexus apps-menu in a later build?
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maybe or maybe not is there anybody who have the right skills could try it for us? (i have some other things to do) i will join later.
Newb questions
Hi Guys,
Sorry for the lame newb questions. I just want to verify this prior to trying this ROM.
I'm currently using CursorSense 1.0.1 - which is my every day ROM (great functionality, fast, does everything I need)
I'm really interested in trying out Android 2.1 - and seeing as this uses the same SPL / Radio - it means I should be able to just wipe and flash this one. HOwever seeing as I just want to take a peek and play around with it, I don't want to screw up everything on my phone toooo badly lol.
If I do a nand backup - wipe and flash this new ROM, when I'm done, can I do a wipe, then reflash the nandroid backup and everything will go back to the way I have it setup now?
Also will anything get screwed up on my SD card leaving it as it is flopping from one ROM to the other and then back (it's non partitioned, and loaded with misc folders created from my apps)
Thanks!
Gritten
asero said:
bug report:
The screen remains black (can't see anything) after sleeping even if I press any of the buttons. I just removed the battery then reboot.
Aside from that, it's quite fast and responsive. The transitions are nice too. Keep it up dude!
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I encountered this issue too. I also encountered this issue once with aosp-2.0.1-jnwhiteh-r6.
Gritten said:
Hi Guys,
If I do a nand backup - wipe and flash this new ROM, when I'm done, can I do a wipe, then reflash the nandroid backup and everything will go back to the way I have it setup now?
Also will anything get screwed up on my SD card leaving it as it is flopping from one ROM to the other and then back (it's non partitioned, and loaded with misc folders created from my apps)
Thanks!
Gritten
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Yes.. backup, wipe, flash, try, wipe, restore.. I even think that last wipe isn't even necessary, but it doesn't harm either. A Nandroid restore restores your phone exactly as you left it (incl. your call log, SMS, apps, etc.)
It could be that some new folders/files are created on your SD card (if required by Eclair apps), but since they are not used by your previous rom it won't be a problem (unless you don't want to keep those unused folders and files on your SD card).
If you are not sure, or don't want to keep the extra folders/files, you can always make a backup of your SD card on a USB or PC prior to trying the rom.
Have fun! ;-)
Gritten said:
Hi Guys,
Sorry for the lame newb questions. I just want to verify this prior to trying this ROM.
I'm currently using CursorSense 1.0.1 - which is my every day ROM (great functionality, fast, does everything I need)
I'm really interested in trying out Android 2.1 - and seeing as this uses the same SPL / Radio - it means I should be able to just wipe and flash this one. HOwever seeing as I just want to take a peek and play around with it, I don't want to screw up everything on my phone toooo badly lol.
If I do a nand backup - wipe and flash this new ROM, when I'm done, can I do a wipe, then reflash the nandroid backup and everything will go back to the way I have it setup now?
Also will anything get screwed up on my SD card leaving it as it is flopping from one ROM to the other and then back (it's non partitioned, and loaded with misc folders created from my apps)
Thanks!
Gritten
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Yes. You can restore from nandroid backup and everything will go back. I often switch between CursorSense 0.4 and sanpei's rom several times a day.
so can anyone answer if this is a good everyday rom? or equivelant to cursor sense?
shael said:
so can anyone answer if this is a good everyday rom? or equivelant to cursor sense?
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The ROM is well done. It's responsive (no lag from my playing) even the 3d gallery ran very well.
I didn't use it too long for everyday items as I'm a Sense fan, however I find that standard plain Android is pretty empty when I don't have my sense stuff on top lol.
Definately play around with it if you're interested.
sober said:
I encountered this issue too. I also encountered this issue once with aosp-2.0.1-jnwhiteh-r6.
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Me too!
Awesome ROM.
Keep UP dude!
Been testing it for a few hours. So far not a single FC and i can confirm that BT works just fine, also OBEX with Bluetooth File Transfer by medieval software.
SMS and emails send and get received just fine.
Tested the GPS in both google maps and the GPS status app to check efficiency, and so far everything works just fine.
The gallery is really sexy, now we just need to get the Nexus1 apps-menu implemented .
Actually there are three other things i'd like implemented also:
Animated desktop
Wireless tether
Google Nav
What do people think about that?
Eskibo said:
Been testing it for a few hours. So far not a single FC and i can confirm that BT works just fine, also OBEX with Bluetooth File Transfer by medieval software.
SMS and emails send and get received just fine.
The gallery is really sexy, now we just need to get the Nexus1 apps-menu implemented .
Actually there are three other things i'd like implemented also:
Animated desktop
Wireless tether
Google Nav
What do people think about that?
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Will be even better with u suggestion and Sense!
fabioccoelho said:
Will be even better with u suggestion and Sense!
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I wish I had some idea of how to do those things, then I would surely try help doing it.
I've had this little issue for a long time but it's really starting to bug me now & i've got the problem narrowed down but can't figure out a fix. On all of the AOSP ROMS that i've used i have a problem with the browser basically stalling out in the middle of the page loading. It gets to a certain point on the progress bar & just seems to stall there & load & load but never wants to finish loading in the progress bar. But every sense ROM I use the pages load almost immediately but i hate Sense so i want my MIUI browser to perform like the Sense so until it does MY AOSP is inferior & i just can't have that. Now, when i turn off the Java Script or turn off "download images" in the browser everything finishes loading like normal so naturally i'm inclined to think it's something with Java Script. This happens to me on MIUI & CM7. I can use ANY Sense ROM & it works fine. On speed tests i get really good speeds, usually 5mb/sec+ download but still the page loading problem remains with AOSP. Can anyone offer some enlightment? I hate to even have to ask but apparantly i can't figure out myself. But it seems i can't! Lol. Thank u :')
Are you using any ad block apps or custom hosts file?
Nope. Just the host files that are included in Mr. Garak's Freshly Squeezed Miui & whatever host files that are in the Absolution ROM. It's aggravating. I'm sure if i just start fresh with a freshly wiped ROM & just take it one app & tweak at a time to see which one is causing this i can find it. I was just thinking that it does this to me on a fresh ROM too but i'm sure i'm thinking wrong & was hoping maybe someone else had run into this & knew what could be causing it. Thank u sir :')
Well crud. I remember in the early stages of CM7, there was an issue w/ hosts files/ad blocking causing this.
Sorry I can't be of any more help. :shrug:
Hey buddy, i just appreciate the reply. No biggie, it's a pretty unique problem that's obviously just related to my setup so obviously i'm just gonna have to deal with it till i get time to start over & take it slow to pinpoint the problem. Have a good day :')
hi all
i followed the disskusion in Milestone XT720 Android Development CyanogenMod 7.1.0 Milestone XT720 RC1
tried 2 reply but i never posted something so iam not allowed to post in def forum
i think iam not the only one with this problem
tried to make my 10 post in offtopic to join the diskussion but faster deleted than posted
so here i go
at first i wanna thank all the devs for the good work
to see cm7 build from source on my xt720 makes me smile
although thanks to all other guys made roms 4 xt720 loved most of the tested but CyanogenMod is my favorite
my last rom was Mioze7Aes cm6.3
so again thanks to all and back to the now
things i missed/bugs found:
still no crystalltalk
missing the standard gallery 4 hdmi /the realhdmi app i used on cm6 although not working
fixed in the builds i got from
https://github.com/peshovec/playground/downloads
when i push hardwaremenubutton/manage applications/running it shows me 0-15mb free ram most time i locked 0-5mb
when i look in other tools like android assistant it says 25-60
is it a bug or is it only cause i have no plan about the ram use
btw what about swap saw the qestion in orginal thread too can we do it the same way like on Mioze7Aes cm6.3
other people with same problems ? some are altough talked about in the orginal thread
orginalthread and a few other maybe useful sites:
edit:things you maybe need for this or other roms on milestone xt720
first some links to SBFs/baseband ,rsd lite4.9 and android sdk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241685
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953863
http://and-developers.com/sbf:xt720
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qyu2pi (cincinnati bell)
http://droid-developers.org/wiki/SBF_Milestone
http://www.mediafire.com/?7xjs2d6nubeatc6 (rsd)
http://dl.google.com/android/installer_r10-windows.exe (sdk)
root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=778098&d=1320906597
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887416
openrecovery
http://www.filecrop.com/open-recovery-APK.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242259
orginal thread and other sites for this mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300246
http://xt720.ru/Files/Mods/cm7/
https://github.com/CyanogenModXT720
edit:actual version iam using CyanogenMod-7.1.0-MilestoneXT720-18112011-signed
sry for my bad english maybe someone can help in german
mfg jens
hi jensblau...
i'm having the same difficulty with the 10 post issue.
i would also like to post to that forum topic
---------- Post added at 08:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:06 AM ----------
i apologise for the short messages i may post but maybe we can get our 10 post minimum requirement on your thread. or possibly this thread will catch a developers eye and acknowledge our posts.
i have tried many versoins of the roms. however due to functionality and asthetics, i always find myself flashing back to dexters froyo.
i have not been a fan of AWD launcher as the primary launcher of any of the threads until i flashed this CM7 rom. the transitions are smooth and it looks great.
here is a list of things i have found on my side regarding the rom, i have only used the latest build [30.10.2011]:
Camera issues:
hd recording: initially when i went to recording, it partially worked but the screen looked like a tv with an interlacing issue. now the screen is just blank. i'm not stressing too uch about this as the hd recording was never really reliable on any rom, including the stock 2.1.
Widescreen photos: this one bugged me the most so far. there is no longer the option of taking photos in the native aspect ratio of the screen, which makes the phone seem less impressive in the gallery as pictures do not fill up the screen.
Applications:
i have not tested the GPS as extensively as you [30mins] but so far no issues. i cannot seem to successfully launch any gaming applications, whether graphics demanding or not. games just seem to hang on the loading screenshot and shortly after force close. i am not sure if the games cannot load due to an accelerometer issue?
is anyone else having gaming issues?
Memory::
RAM: seems inconsistent, whether 50mb+ is available, or 15mb, i cannot seem to run apps smoothly.
Links2SD: cannot link applications with links2sd, i have triedformatting the partition to all supported formats on the setup screen of the application but still no luck.
other than these issues thus far, i think this looks like a very promising rom
My problem is I can't charge when phone turned off, stuck at M logo @@
gps/navi
my navigation problem was the loadingcable from usbradio in the car it seems
without cable no reboot no force close dont know if the radio is the problem or the phone
@shalzn that was my hope to someone of the other thread recognizing this
@jjackichan works 4 me had that problem with an erlier build
update-cm-7.1.0-MilestoneXT720-beta-26102011-signed.zip was it i think are you running update-cm-7.1.0-MilestoneXT720-beta-30102011-signed.zip
bzw i reflashed 2.1 betwen what i didnt before since cm6.3
swap
this is the thread i found and used on cm6.3 4 swap maybe i ll give it a try at we
i used the file from post 5 i think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210343&highlight=swap
is there a way to switch ext betwen 2/3/4 without formating it
If you nandroid backup then restore sddata it will restore as ext2. In Mioze7Ae's recovery mod for the xt720 there is an option to convert ext2 to ext 3/4.
HTH
jensblau said:
is there a way to switch ext betwen 2/3/4 without formating it
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Converting along this path ext2 -> ext3 -> ext4 is pretty easy. Going backwards isn't very easy. If you just want to gitrdun, use ORXT720 to make and restore a nandroid of "SD Data". This will automatically backup, format your /sd-ext as ext2 and then restore it's contents. Then you can use "SD Card Utilities" to change it to ext3 or ext4 if you wish.
thx 4 the fast help
nice this tock not long time you found our nerdthread big THX 4 your help
maybe you can answer the qestion about swap too
is it possible like in your cm6.3 with fjfalcons CustomCore3.rar
jensblau said:
maybe you can answer the qestion about swap too
is it possible like in your cm6.3 with fjfalcons CustomCore3.rar
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I think it does. I just booted boot2.img from CustomCore3.rar and it came up with swap enabled. But, swap seems to make things lag quite a bit from what I can tell. It shows 60MB free after boot. I think we have too much memory pressure with our current minfree settings so too much stuff is being forced onto swap and we're thrashing. So, it will probably need tuning using something like AKMO or maybe my swap is just too big.
Caveat: I didn't use the other parts of CustomCore3.rar (because I'm on linux). Also, the build I'm running is very close to the one fjfalcon built and released, but it's not the exact same one (nothing about the swap support should be different, though).
You'll find that our forums are a bit more friendly than some of the others out there. Just keep posting until you reach the min to get into the dev thread and then you can ask directly.
AKMO-autokiller memory optimizer is going to be your friend for awhile until you get your personal memory issues worked out. It is free in market and set it to optimum setting to start out. Then once you get the hang of it, you can tweak at will.
thats the plan
love this forum it allways helped me with my problems
next qestion is how to use akmo strikt or optimum bzw one of the others
wich do you use
and what heapsize should i have tested 32 and 40 i think
but will edit this afternoon after checking this no time have to go to work now
edit:much better after installing akmo
Go with 32 heap size for now and use the optimum setting in AKMO for a bit to get the feel of it. Then we can work on tweaking that. When I was on Kahls V4 my heap was 48 and my custom AKMO were 16,16, 74, 82, 90, 98 and usually had high 50's to mid 70's free ram always with no swap boot. That was on that ROM, not CM7 though.
@ woodrube...
hi there, i am fairly novice compared the skills of the others. i think the reason though is that many of the bugs reported concerning baseband, market. disappearing messages have not happened to me.
in connection with your post above, could these settings be keeping me from running graphics intensive games? they all hang at the startup screen and force close. nfs shift ran superbly on my stock 2.1, and dexters froyo. but now it seems nothing will run unless i rsd my stock rom. i tried brian lee's 2.2 v1.7, which runs the smoothest out of the lot, but still no 3d games.
i would like to be able to run at least something decent to show off on CM7...
You just need a lot of free ram when you run those games. The AKMO tweaks will help with that. I suggest getting Titanium Backup Pro (root) version from market. It is well worth the money. Go into settings, apps, running services and you can see what is running and how much ram it is taking. You can use TB to freeze renegade system apps that eat ram. This will free up available ram to run heavy games. Another app is Chainfire3D with 3plugins. It is used for Tegra gaming and graphics. I can upload the plug ins later on this evening bc they are a pain to find on the net. These should help.
Edit: Chainfire3d app is in the market (root) but I uploaded plugins here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19090240#post19090240
@ woodrube
tried these apps. but no luck. as well as V6 supercharge, tried a few of the modes.
the titanium backup pro does not function as you described to view running apps, unless i'm missing something.
i have 61mb free an not able to run anything.
going to rsdlite back to 2.1 to test the games to see if its not something that changed entirely on the phone.
will give feedback and maybe you can assist from there. have you managed to run anything graphics intensive on your handset just?
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woodrube...
this is the name of 2.1 rom i have been flashing : UNMODIFIED_STR_U2_01.1E.0_SIGNED_UCASHLSTABB1B4DEMA039.0R_UCASHOTBRTLRTCEE_P001_A008_HWp3_1FF.sbf
CM7 required flashing ti a 2.1 rom before installation.
NFS will not run on this 2.1, i dont recall if i have ever gamed on this sbf. do you think the problem could start with this rom being the start point of all flashing?
shalzn said:
@ woodrube
tried these apps. but no luck. as well as V6 supercharge, tried a few of the modes.
the titanium backup pro does not function as you described to view running apps, unless i'm missing something.
i have 61mb free an not able to run anything.
going to rsdlite back to 2.1 to test the games to see if its not something that changed entirely on the phone.
will give feedback and maybe you can assist from there. have you managed to run anything graphics intensive on your handset just?
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woodrube...
this is the name of 2.1 rom i have been flashing : UNMODIFIED_STR_U2_01.1E.0_SIGNED_UCASHLSTABB1B4DEMA039.0R_UCASHOTBRTLRTCEE_P001_A008_HWp3_1FF.sbf
CM7 required flashing ti a 2.1 rom before installation.
NFS will not run on this 2.1, i dont recall if i have ever gamed on this sbf. do you think the problem could start with this rom being the start point of all flashing?
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Titanium will not find the rogue running services, it can freeze them. Say you do not use Maps for example. Go into Settings>Applications>Running Services and see if it is running. If so, then you can go into TBPro, find the Maps app and "freeze" it, thus preventing that app from running and eating up valuable RAM in the background. FYI without running Swap boot, 61mb is reasonable. I do not run graphic intense games, so not sure if the problem is the 3D graphics, available RAM or something else.
Looks like the SBF that you are running is the Brightpoint one. Maybe try the Cincinnati Bell Wireless one. It is in the SBF thread and has proven to be one of the most stable SBF foundations. I would suggest you try the CBW SBF if you want to test on 2.1 or maybe try one of the other ROMs and test on them to see if it works on those. Don't forget that CM7 is still a work in progress. Build up your posts so you can post in that forum. Others in there might be having the same issue. There are a few gamers over there.
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Titanium will not find the rogue running services, it can freeze them. Say you do not use Maps for example. Go into Settings>Applications>Running Services and see if it is running. If so, then you can go into TBPro, find the Maps app and "freeze" it, thus preventing that app from running and eating up valuable RAM in the background. FYI without running Swap boot, 61mb is reasonable. I do not run graphic intense games, so not sure if the problem is the 3D graphics, available RAM or something else.
Looks like the SBF that you are running is the Brightpoint one. Maybe try the Cincinnati Bell Wireless one. It is in the SBF thread and has proven to be one of the most stable SBF foundations. I would suggest you try the CBW SBF if you want to test on 2.1 or maybe try one of the other ROMs and test on them to see if it works on those. Don't forget that CM7 is still a work in progress. Build up your posts so you can post in that forum. Others in there might be having the same issue. There are a few gamers over there.
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The differences between the brightpoint and cbw sbfs are inconsequential-- just things like default homepage in the browser and preloaded bookmarks.
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Mioze7Ae said:
The differences between the brightpoint and cbw sbfs are inconsequential-- just things like default homepage in the browser and preloaded bookmarks.
Sent from my Milestone XT720 using xda premium
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He is just having 9 kinds of hell getting that game running. Bet Libertymonger could help him since he runs games like those. If he is having this much trouble getting the game running, I dare not say anything about running swap.
thanks for the help guys.
i'm beginning to think maybe there is a problem with my older apk's and data files.
all the games that used to run on my stock rom and dexters froyo are not running anymore on any roms.
however i have gotten NOVA, and Samurai II [tegra 2] to run smoothly and from the experience they seem to be more involved games. so in theory the phone and roms should not have any difficulty with the older ones. so i'm gonna give it up as installation issue. plus i dont really like nfs, it was more of a show piece in the losing battle against blackberry amongst friends...
i have tested the above mentioned on bravo 2.2 v1.7, and cm7. runs a bit smoother on the bravo for now. but it will keep me happy until the kinks are out of cm7.
would you recommend me running swap boot? will it increase performance? or should i not tamper too much now that its running?
BTW, free RAM has dropped like crazy. +-25mb. nothing major running. keyboard t9 mod : 8mb, google framework: 9mb, whatsapp: 10mb. the remainder add up to under 2mb
does this sound right with those figures?
shalzn said:
thanks for the help guys.
i'm beginning to think maybe there is a problem with my older apk's and data files.
all the games that used to run on my stock rom and dexters froyo are not running anymore on any roms.
however i have gotten NOVA, and Samurai II [tegra 2] to run smoothly and from the experience they seem to be more involved games. so in theory the phone and roms should not have any difficulty with the older ones. so i'm gonna give it up as installation issue. plus i dont really like nfs, it was more of a show piece in the losing battle against blackberry amongst friends...
i have tested the above mentioned on bravo 2.2 v1.7, and cm7. runs a bit smoother on the bravo for now. but it will keep me happy until the kinks are out of cm7.
would you recommend me running swap boot? will it increase performance? or should i not tamper too much now that its running?
BTW, free RAM has dropped like crazy. +-25mb. nothing major running. keyboard t9 mod : 8mb, google framework: 9mb, whatsapp: 10mb. the remainder add up to under 2mb
does this sound right with those figures?
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Hi,
I do run swap boot on CM6.3 and have seen almost all games working better except a few (9mm which was quite laggy even after a swap). But I think problem with swap is that It freezes my XT720 once in a while.
BTW, I plan to switch to the Bravo V1.7 for the time being as I want to try HDMI out which I never used even in the stock due to its limitation of gallery view. Does the Bravo HDMI out work on any games?
Thanks to all the Devs for keeping my XT alive.
Cheers
Hi P999 users. Ive been experimenting with the Eagles Blood ICS ROMs and wanted to post some of my findings. I am not allowed to post in the relevant developer area where a detailed report would be useful so I will just post my feelings about the ROM's here for the next few weeks, until I am allowed to post more useful information.
I started out on the CM9 version of Eagles Blood, and then switched to a nightly AOSP ROM two weeks ago. I wanted to find out with AOSP was all about. This build felt very smooth. However crashes and force closing have cropped up in the past few days and this made me feel uncomfortable with the ROM's stability.
An update was released on the 20th so I felt the need to backup with Titanium and install the new ROM.
While installing the new ROM I read a notice in the changelog which confirmed my suspicion about the frequent new force closing. It seams there was some file corruption happening in previous builds... Maybe this was the reason mine was having issues??? How do I feel about this?
Anyways, after installing the newer ROM, and restoring my backup things were out of whack. Something about the restore had left some systems settings unusable and my Data connection was not working. Everything was force closing, even the android keyboard. I re-wiped and re-installed the ROM and backups with the same issues.
I decided to go back to build 4.0.3 and things have been good since. I had a feeling my Titanium backup was ruining my AOSP installations so this time I took a selective approach to restoring apps and did not restore system settings. My data connection is working again and my apps are working well. (Just to be clear I went back to the CM9 based version of EGB and not the AOSP version I was using which became unstable over time)
I do appreciate the AOSP development on behalf of EGB team but will be staying with the CM9 build for stability sake until file corruption issues are dealt with.
And that's how I feel about that.
the file corruption issue is your issue though, how are they supposed to fix your backup from your phone? Don't restore the settings and system, just apps. I don't get what the big issue is...
good job
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the file corruption issue is your issue though, how are they supposed to fix your backup from your phone? Don't restore the settings and system, just apps. I don't get what the big issue is...
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MT3G thanks writing verbatim the solution I wrote into the OP.
*edit* the file corruption issue and the titanium backup fiasco are not related. It is my understanding that EGB team is aware of corruption cause by the early ASOP release and that they are working on it. I've decided not to use the AOSP version until they take care of it. (Solution / Workaround #1)
Maybe this is a big issue for someone who would not make the connection between restoring a system backup and the data connection not working anymore. I felt this was good information and that's why I posted it (Solution / Workaround #2)
Yeah that's why I never back up or restore any type of system settings; always gets you trouble.
Glad to see you're a problem solver , we don't have much of those here.
exactly my thoughts, most people wold just freak out and say the rom was stupid or something, I read the post as he was saying he is going to wait for EB team to fix the issue where as it isn't going to be "fixed" lol. Unless you are updating the same rom or a rom that hasn't been extremely updated then it's possible for it work out okay. But using cm7 backing up and then going to cm9(4.0.x) and restoring is going to be a no go probably. i'm with Buru though except I just stay away from TB all together, I only use about 12 apps and no games.
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Just a quick update. Its been almost 3 weeks on the EGB CM9 build 4.0.3. I've been very happy with it. Occasionally I install updates and I get strange behavior after. I've found that rebuilding permissions after an update is a good practice.
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Yeah that's why I never back up or restore any type of system settings; always gets you trouble.
Glad to see you're a problem solver , we don't have much of those here.
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I have restored email (with all accounts, data and app) as well as saved wifi locations before. I believe both of those are system settings and they never caused problems.
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Try using GoBackup for apps, contacts (if you don't sync to your gmail), and some system settings. I like it more than TB. I'm not saying it won't cause FC's and that's because I don't know. But it might work better.