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[Q] Best Rom Out For a Cycling Enthusiast?

I just recently rooted the Inspire and flashed 2 roms so far. None have been up to par with GPs for some odd reason.
Anyone out there also into sports with GPS? Could you throw me a bone here?
Thanks
SurferJD from humid s.Florida!

surferjd said:
I just recently rooted the Inspire and flashed 2 roms so far. None have been up to par with GPs for some odd reason.
Anyone out there also into sports with GPS? Could you throw me a bone here?
Thanks
SurferJD from humid s.Florida!
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There is no best ROM. Your gps performance depends on many factors.
For any given ROM, some will say their gps locks in 2 seconds indoors and others will say they can't ever get a lock. And I'm being completely serious when I say that.
You're going to have to do some reading and trial-and-error experimentation to find the best combo for yourself.
"Best ROM" threads usually end up locked by Mods, just so you know.

I use Endmundo for Cycling (after trying several) and it works fairly well but have GPS issues now and then. I tried various ROMS but now back on stock and it seems fine. Cloud cover, atmospheric issues, airports etc all have an effect on the GPS. There may be a way to have Internet compensate for the loss of GPS but have not seen a proggy do that yet...
BTW I also have the Garmin Edge 500 on another bike and it seems to have GPS issues at times also - but it seems to compensate somehow by faking or estimating the numbers based on averages.

Since you are rooted head over to the Android development section and download the GPS Fix. It will usually improve your GPS on most ROM's.
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GPS and CM7 based ROMs

I've been (mostly) lurking on XDA boards for a couple of years, having had a Droid X, Droid Charge, and lately an Inspire. I am a confirmed flashaholic, and historically rarely stick with one ROM for longer than a few weeks.
The Inspire though, presents an interesting and somewhat frustrating problem. In a nutshell, I am unable to hold a GPS lock for longer than 3 minutes at a time on anything other than a Sense ROM. In digging around on the boards, it is clear that this is a known issue on the Inspire (Desire HD too) running anything built off of CM7. Now, for the average user this might not be a huge deal, but I drive a tow truck for a living and rely heavily on GPS for trips, every night.
I have attempted each and every fix available for this problem, with no lasting success. It's a shame because on occasion I love to run pure CM7, and the Inspire has a superb CM7 hybrid available in Absolution. And now the AOSP ICS builds are nearing completion, but they still present a problem due to the CM7 parts used. Why am I stuck with Sense on this device in order to use Navigation effectively?
To be clear, I love this phone, not going anywhere, and I've got Sense 3.5 growing on me just fine, currently running Mikrunny, but I do miss the stripped down speed of CM. Why was this never addressed by Cyanogenmod's team? It's documented, even on CM's own boards. Can't blame the devs here, they are working off of source that is inherently bugged, or deficient, IMHO. Have tried countless market app fixes, GPS Test, GPS Status, etc. Found a great thread on the Desire board that greatly improves the number of satellites visible to the device and the speed of the fixes, but none help hold a lock longer than 3 or 4 minutes at a time. Frustrating.
Purpose for this thread? Well, to vent a little I guess, but more importantly to see if anyone with deeper knowledge than me on the topic has further insight...a HEAVY GPS user like myself perhaps?
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the problem lies in google maps. least from what ive read and experienced. if you use different navigation or gps software theres no problem at all.
give Waze a try

OK. Will give Waze and/or Sygic a shot. Thanks for the reply.
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If you toggle your gps off then back on after you've opened and gotten a lock in navigation and it will
Stay locked.
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I'm having very good fixing and holding on black ice ROM with crypted's agps fix ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252011), specifically the "at&t flavored" option.

I am also using CM7 and I found that modifying my gps.conf as described in this thread really helped me. I was having troube getting a lock at all, would try for 10 minutes, but now I can get a lock in under 1 min.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239713
I use GPS Status to get the A-GPS data.
https://market.android.com/details?...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5lY2xpcHNpbS5ncHNzdGF0dXMyIl0.

I've also found that turning the gps off and back on at the initial signal loss works well. I field tested my inspire using an ics rom on a 2.5 hr road trip. It did lose the signal within the first 2 minutes, but toggling the location services button fixed it. After the first drop I kept the signal for the entire trip, both ways

I may have found something, but I need a few others to try it out and see if it is reproducible.
If folks here are comfortable modifying their build.prop file can anyone give this a shot and post back here if it worked for them?
Change
ro.product.model=Desire HD
to
ro.product.model=Inspire 4G
Reboot.
Test the GPS without toggling.
A couple of caveats. I'm running on the BlackIce ROM (a CM7 derivative which does have the gps toggle issue still) and I have applied crypted's AGPS patch (which improved the lock considerably but did not fix the toggle bug).

Dubbee said:
I may have found something, but I need a few others to try it out and see if it is reproducible.
If folks here are comfortable modifying their build.prop file can anyone give this a shot and post back here if it worked for them?
Change
ro.product.model=Desire HD
to
ro.product.model=Inspire 4G
Reboot.
Test the GPS without toggling.
A couple of caveats. I'm running on the BlackIce ROM (a CM7 derivative which does have the gps toggle issue still) and I have applied crypted's AGPS patch (which improved the lock considerably but did not fix the toggle bug).
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Doesn't make a difference. Download GPS Status from the market. Before you fire up Google maps run GPS status first. As soon as it downloads the assisted gps data fire up Google maps and you will be good to go.

GPS Status is useful but it doesn't address the toggle annoyance.
Did you actually try the build.prop edit?

I also use blackice with crypted's 3.1 gps patch. Google navigation is buggy, but I like to drive my very light car out in the stocks on the twisties where their is edge, gprs, or nothing. So, I use Navigon. It's gotten better now that garmin bought them and the routing engine is leaps and bounds better than Google. It works flawlessly.
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
I also use blackice with crypted's 3.1 gps patch. Google navigation is buggy, but I like to drive my very light car out in the stocks on the twisties where their is edge, gprs, or nothing. So, I use Navigon. It's gotten better now that garmin bought them and the routing engine is leaps and bounds better than Google. It works flawlessly.
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Are you serious? Its a $40 freakin app! https://market.android.com/details?id=com.navigon.navigator_checkout_us&hl=en

I'm dead serious. It's worth every penny if you need gps and don't want to be subject to the propagation of radio frequency for your map data. It works very well. Some people ***** about it not working, but my guess is that they are incompetent. Also, navteq has the best map data for North America. I can uncheck a box and it'll route me on rural roads that would require a custom rock crawler to traverse.
Also, I tend to get the best gps and everything else results with radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M.
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I dowloaded GPS status, turned on my navigation ap, then toggled my gps on and off and it worked for 30 straight minutes
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Forgot to add I am using Revolution
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tepeee said:
I dowloaded GPS status, turned on my navigation ap, then toggled my gps on and off and it worked for 30 straight minutes
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But the question is, will it come on by itself without having to toggle it off and on? Mine gets a fast fix and will stay connected so long as I toggle it off and on and don't let the screen time out or close the program. Any of that happens and I have to toggle it again. This is with CM7 nightly 260.

I am using a stock Inpire 4g (for now). FWIW, If Google maps/navigation is the first app to attempt to access the GPS after the GPS has been turned on, it will never get a signal lock for me. I have to run GPS Status (a great app) before trying anything else. Sometimes this means toggling GPS off and back on, running GPS Status, waiting for lock, and then resuming Google maps/navigation. Even if I start Google, realize my mistake, and then run GPS Status with Google still in the background, GPS Status will "see" as many as 10 satellites with strong signals, and never get lock. I only have to run GPS Status once after GPS has been turned on. Then, if I leave the GPS on, I can use any other app as much as I want with no problems.

GPS Problem

I'm using CM7 Eaglesblood 2.8 with the T15 Trinity kernel.
My problem is that my GPS won't turn on after my phone has been on for a while. I'm not 100% sure after what exactly the GPS stops working, but so far every day I try to use it after my phone has been on for a day, this error occurs.
It works once I reboot, but I don't want to have to reboot my phone every time I wish to use my GPS.
Some details:
-the GPS is enabled, but the icon in the notification bar doesn't turn on when I am atttempting to use GPS
-I've attempted using a series of apps that use GPS and this behavior is consistent throughout all of them
-I've experienced the same issue on the newest CM7 Hellfire ROM with the faux SV and OC/UV 048 kernels which makes me think this is an issue with CM7 or the G2X
-I've used GPS status and it produced no results
-I've searched this error through both your forum search and Google. Google produced some results, but none of them helped
So my question, or rather request, is to know whether or not I'm the only one having this problem. I use my GPS a lot, so this is very annoying. Also if someone was having this problem, I'd like to know how they fixed it (and also if they didn't)

GPS is properly fixed in 21y firmware the stock 2.3.4 release, but that means no custom roms.
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Hmm okay, thanks. Well in any case, I have a custom ROM which I rather use than the stock. Is there a solution available for CM7 users?
Possibly unrelated, but yesterday my GPS started becoming inaccurate as well as malfunctional. I haven't changed anything, so I'm thinking it's similar to when data is slow some days. If that's the case, it'll fix itself over time.
The original problem still remains, however. Right now I'm under the impression that this is a problem that doesn't have a solution.

I had nothing but trouble with GPS on my G2X. I even exchanged the phone twice in an attempt to get one with a decent GPS. All the symptoms you describe would occur on my phone. Sometimes I'd have to do multiple reboots to get it working again. Since I updated the baseband last week it's been working much, much better.
I miss running CM, and I hope that devs will find a way to make custom ROMs work with the new baseband, but I'd rather have a working phone than a custom ROM. In addition to the GPS issue, my random lock-ups haven't appeared yet either. Granted I haven't had this update on my phone a full week yet, so I can't be certain that it's fixed all the problems yet.

Is GPS on captivate good enough on ICS

My current phone got stolen, so I need something on a budget for the meanwhile. I was thinking of getting a captivate since it has lot of development with stable ICS builds..
My only concern is the GPS ? I had heard there were problems initially with early galaxy S units, resulting in poor GPS performance. Do they still exist in ICS roms or were they fixed ? Also if anyone know were these on hardware side or if they were just software bugs?

Mafioso said:
My current phone got stolen, so I need something on a budget for the meanwhile. I was thinking of getting a captivate since it has lot of development with stable ICS builds..
My only concern is the GPS ? I had heard there were problems initially with early galaxy S units, resulting in poor GPS performance. Do they still exist in ICS roms or were they fixed ? Also if anyone know were these on hardware side or if they were just software bugs?
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There are several threads on the gps problem and it's not related to rom, per se. I am on GB and changing the etc/gps.conf file has made my GPS reliable. The position of the GPS antenna inside the phone is far from ideal and samsung didn't ship it with best settings in the gps.conf file.
if you search for 'gps.conf' you will find the threads. it is pretty simple to replace the gps.conf file or edit it.
Some ROMs include the gps.conf fix.
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I love many things about my captivate, but the GPS is not one of them. There are fixes that help some, but it still seems too unreliable. If I'm driving it loses signal all too often.

Gps
For a decent gps signal I flash H3llstorm GPS Fix after flashing a Rom... Still Doesn't compare to other devices signal strength, but makes gps usable
It works on CM9, AOKP and MIUI
-Sorry for bad English

GPS, also, depend on your baseband version.some baseband firmwares consumes more battary charge, but gives better GPS signals. I use XXJVT modem and have no issues with GPS signal.

I figured out something cool. If I hold my captivate up to the windshield it will lock on nicely, whereas if it's in my lap when driving it won't. Then I have a windshield mount where I keep it. It's been working better. This has been true on AOCP and jelly bean.

Running aokp kang build 4 GPS locks normally < 30 sec
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After flashing to latest stable Cyanogenmod 9.1 my GPS is very good. I get 8 out of 9 satellite lock in about 5 seconds where it used to take 30-40 seconds with stock ROM and about 20-30 with 2.3.5 ROM I used for a while. That's in exactly the same spot right in front of my house.

that's the only thing i hate about Captivate @@
GPS is unbelievably weak, it has to combine with gps from mobile network, i can never use pure gps with only satellites @@

The GPS is my least favorite component of my Galaxy S.
I do use my Captivate as my GPS while geocaching.
I find that for best reception I have to hold the phone so the back is pointed up. To do this is is slightly over my head and I have to look up at it. Going though some trees and leaning over the phone it will loose connection. In the car driving I only find occasionally it will loose connection. In the mount on the dash it is in the ideal orientation.
My Transformer Prime tablet has an even worse GPS but the update external GPS add-on improves the GPS to be much better than the Captivate.
If it realy matters you can get a blue tooth GPS that can work with this and probably any phone you might upgrade to in the future.
I am running ICS on my phone and under Location Services there is GPS source to select different GPS. I just tried to connect using bluetooth to my Garmin car GPS but the only bluetooth functionality it has is to send sound to car stereo. and I could not even pair the Garmin with the Captivate.
Lots of bluetooth GPS receivers to choose from on eBay.
This thread might give you some more information of some of the units others have tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122688
I am going to stick with the GPS in my phone. It has worked good enough for two years and will be updating my phone in Feb or March.
Jim

Honestly, you don't choose the Captivate for its GPS. Although, many ROMs have GPS fix and makes it usable. I can't say I had much issue with mine, it does the job it needs to do but depending on your connection, it might not be optimal. I did lose signal for a few seconds while driving but never lost signal to leaning over it tho eh

I almost want to say that the Captivate has the worst GPS out of most phones but I don't have much experience with other phones. The captivate is decent though and I think with the latest versions of JB, it seems to operate much better.

Hi all, I have a question. Why my GPS get fix fast and strong in gpstest apk and dont get a good fix running the google Navigator?
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Try this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19422197
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4-2ndtwin said:
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Try this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19422197
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Is It works for CM10 stable (JB 4.1.2)?

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Sorry, but nope. Just good for samsung stock gb roms or those based on that. Should have mentioned that before. My bad.
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igorgomez said:
Hi all, I have a question. Why my GPS get fix fast and strong in gpstest apk and dont get a good fix running the google Navigator?
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I've noticed that the google nav app maybe sensitive to the accuracy of the system time. When the clock is off by more that a few seconds, it seems to consistently report my position incorrectly, by 50 meters or more, in the same direction.
For example, when driving southbound, it will show me driving south, but 100 meters off the road to the east and this offset will persist until the clock is corrected.
I've installed clocksync app and set it to sync time every hour. It seems to help: Google nav doesn't give the persistant offset, but it does lose lock sometimes. I just toggle gps enable in the status bar and it recovers.
My gps.conf file uses the hellstorm fix. I am running GB debloated stock rom with Corn 7.06a kernel.
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[Q] GPS always drops signal after ~5 mins of navigation

A while ago I rooted my AT&T HTC Inspire and put on Cyanogenmod 7.2.0, and things are all working quite well except the GPS. However, extensive googling and I've not been able to find something that exactly matches my symptoms. It always camps quickly, that's no problem. When it is connected, things seem fine and fast. However, each time I start driving navigation, after about 5 mins it loses the GPS signal and won't recover on its own. It will recover if I turn off the GPS and turn it back on. At that point we're back to normal but eventually it will happen again and it's quite annoying and unsafe to have to toggle the radio to keep navigation going.
I have tried several combinations of the RILs/Radio software found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324
However, there is never a behavior change. It is beginning to make me think maybe the problem is not with my radio software. Is there any kind of middleware as part of the ROM which may be causing this? Can anyone think of a way to troubleshoot bad hardware? I wonder if it is possible my baseband hardware was damaged through the modding process?
Thanks!

rpod83 said:
A while ago I rooted my AT&T HTC Inspire and put on Cyanogenmod 7.2.0, and things are all working quite well except the GPS. However, extensive googling and I've not been able to find something that exactly matches my symptoms. It always camps quickly, that's no problem. When it is connected, things seem fine and fast. However, each time I start driving navigation, after about 5 mins it loses the GPS signal and won't recover on its own. It will recover if I turn off the GPS and turn it back on. At that point we're back to normal but eventually it will happen again and it's quite annoying and unsafe to have to toggle the radio to keep navigation going.
I have tried several combinations of the RILs/Radio software found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324
However, there is never a behavior change. It is beginning to make me think maybe the problem is not with my radio software. Is there any kind of middleware as part of the ROM which may be causing this? Can anyone think of a way to troubleshoot bad hardware? I wonder if it is possible my baseband hardware was damaged through the modding process?
Thanks!
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I believe that this is just a bug with the Navigation app on Cyanogenmod 7.x ROMs. It happened to me on every CM7 ROM I ran and I remember reading that it was the Navigation app's fault. But it's a normal bug, nothing should be damaged hardware-wise unless this happens on Sense or ICS ROMs that don't have documented cases of this issue.

MagicalHobo said:
I believe that this is just a bug with the Navigation app on Cyanogenmod 7.x ROMs. It happened to me on every CM7 ROM I ran and I remember reading that it was the Navigation app's fault. But it's a normal bug, nothing should be damaged hardware-wise unless this happens on Sense or ICS ROMs that don't have documented cases of this issue.
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Thanks, MagicalHobo. Did you ever try a different ROM with success?

rpod83 said:
Thanks, MagicalHobo. Did you ever try a different ROM with success?
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This is a common problem on AOSP ICS roms as well. I have read it is fixed on aospx, but the rom was too vanilla for me to keep it long enough to test.
As for Gingerbread, I can tell you that Navigation works perfectly on all ClearDroid roms as well as Virtuous Unity through 2.35, I can't remember using Nav on Gingerbeast.
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Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks! Thread moved.
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biglittlegato said:
This is a common problem on AOSP ICS roms as well. I have read it is fixed on aospx, but the rom was too vanilla for me to keep it long enough to test.
As for Gingerbread, I can tell you that Navigation works perfectly on all ClearDroid roms as well as Virtuous Unity through 2.35, I can't remember using Nav on Gingerbeast.
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From my experience, GPS works perfectly on aospx.