In my previous HTC, Touch Pro2, there is a Ctrl key, but on HTC 7 PRO I cannot see it. If there is a way to map such Ctrl key? I need to use it
1.) why do you need the key?
2.) there is actually no ctrl-key and you won't be able to map it do any other.
keymap could be modified on rhodium
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538228
Suppose something similar could be digged. have no wp7 at the moment though.
hope to read of android working and smoothly on 7pro :=) unless a cool qwerty is released for android, maybe 4.3"
exilkubaner said:
1.) why do you need the key?
2.) there is actually no ctrl-key and you won't be able to map it do any other.
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Hi all,
I had the same thought.
The benefit of the Control key (for my usage):
- press CONTROL + BACKSAPCE to delete a whole word at a time (rather than single letters
- using the arrow buttons + CONTORL makes copying text much easier, that way you don't have to get onto the touch screen (useful on long emails etc)
- much easier to copy & paste just using the keyboard, like on your normal keyboard
It would be great to have the Control button or have the same function somehow else.
BGM said:
Hi all,
I had the same thought.
The benefit of the Control key (for my usage):
- press CONTROL + BACKSAPCE to delete a whole word at a time (rather than single letters
- using the arrow buttons + CONTORL makes copying text much easier, that way you don't have to get onto the touch screen (useful on long emails etc)
- much easier to copy & paste just using the keyboard, like on your normal keyboard
It would be great to have the Control button or have the same function somehow else.
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I use to do the same thing. Feel lost without it. I know it can still be done by dragging your finger. Though to me... its not with the same ease. I dont know how they could possibly think an emoticon button is more crucial :S Its a business phone ffs!
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Is it possible to make a keyboard that has multi-touch enabled so that typing on screen would be faster?
Clarification: this would make it so more than one key could be held down at once and would make it so keys could be typed in quick succession.
that doesnt really make sense.. multi touch would allow you to type 2 keys at the same time? how much faster do you want to type? maybe someone should port mavis beacon to the android and sell it to this guy.. lol.. sorry for being a smart ass... just dont get how that is a sensible request... maybe i dont understand? or maybe you dont type fast...
Re:Clarification - you can already hold down one key while you press down another.. menu+c menu+v copy paste
I tend to find myself already having my finger on the next key before i have fully released the first. this way one key could be held down, another pressed down, the first released, and then the second released shortly afterward so that they could be typed in quick succession.
renocivik said:
Re:Clarification - you can already hold down one key while you press down another.. menu+c menu+v copy paste
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i meant on the on screen keyboard...
gotcha.. you could always get one of the softkeyboard replacements.. have you looked into those? I use shapewriter.. ive become quite good at using it.. can use that almost as fast as the hard keyboard on my g1.. and who knows.. maybe there is a multi touch capable soft keyboard replacement..
Better Keyboard does multitouch.
alright cool thank you!
On latest cyanogen, the included IME (I think ot's frim eclair) does support multitouch. There is Smartkeyboard and Better keyboard too. However, I don't see any performance boost by using multitouch keyboard. It's far more important for the keyboard to be responsive and read your strokes accurately. That's why I stick to the stock keyboard - fast, lightweight and accurate enough.
Hi All,
In my old XDA the keyboard had a CTRL key which was so easy to cut and paste but the HD2 keyboard is very cumbersome when copying and pasting.
Anyone has suggestion for an alternative keyboard app?
Cheers.
Wolfy
Just press and hold your finger on the text and you will get a pulldownmenu with the commands "copy" and "paste". This is the only way, i know.
Thanx mate..... but I know this function but sometimes it's so hard to highlight the text and then try and copy/cut as soon as I put my finger again on the same place the highlighted text get cleared as the system kind of recognises as I dont want the selection ......sometimes it does work I have to admit but most of the time it doesnt and i just like using teh CTRL function as its kind of neat (thats my understanding) ..... anyone has any alternatives????
wolfyx said:
Thanx mate..... but I know this function but sometimes it's so hard to highlight the text and then try and copy/cut as soon as I put my finger again on the same place the highlighted text get cleared as the system kind of recognises as I dont want the selection ......sometimes it does work I have to admit but most of the time it doesnt and i just like using teh CTRL function as its kind of neat (thats my understanding) ..... anyone has any alternatives????
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You can use FingerKeyboard for this. You can select text by pressing the 'shift' key and then select the text with the arrow buttons. When you have the right selection, you can copy this by pressing 'shift' and then X. To paste press 'shift' and then V. Even shift-Z and shift-X works, exactly the way it does on a normal keyboard. I use it very much.
wolfyx said:
Hi All,
In my old XDA the keyboard had a CTRL key which was so easy to cut and paste but the HD2 keyboard is very cumbersome when copying and pasting.
Anyone has suggestion for an alternative keyboard app?
Cheers.
Wolfy
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I use tweak no. 40 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
which facilitates copy and paste text.
lucbosch said:
You can use FingerKeyboard for this. You can select text by pressing the 'shift' key and then select the text with the arrow buttons. When you have the right selection, you can copy this by pressing 'shift' and then X. To paste press 'shift' and then V. Even shift-Z and shift-X works, exactly the way it does on a normal keyboard. I use it very much.
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ok, and how can i then replace the selected text with a capital "V" (when shift-v is the shortcut for paste, which is ctrl-v on a pc) ?
hebbe said:
ok, and how can i then replace the selected text with a capital "V" (when shift-v is the shortcut for paste, which is ctrl-v on a pc) ?
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I'm sorry, I was wrong. You have to press shift and hold (!) the Z, X, C or V button. When you press shift you also see the caption of buttons change. Above the Z you can see 'undo', above the X 'cut' and so on...
Swype has a dedicated copy and one for paste in the symbols/edit section
Thanx for the feedback ....i'm going to try these but i just wish i could have that ctrl button.........hehehe
try swype is much better than the default kb
These are basics features of TouchPal :
Copy, paste, text selection, selec all, home, end, page up & down, etc...
wolfyx said:
Hi All,
In my old XDA the keyboard had a CTRL key which was so easy to cut and paste but the HD2 keyboard is very cumbersome when copying and pasting.
Anyone has suggestion for an alternative keyboard app?
Cheers.
Wolfy
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Try VNKeyb v2.2.0 of hanoiwap here:
This one works perfectly. Thanks.
Is remapping a single key a difficult thing to do, for you smart dudes?
I don't use the voice key at all. Can that key be remapped to a right arrow key? I don't miss or need all of the arrow keys but having a way to move the cursor to the right would really make editting a multi-line message much easier. I can use the backspace to move it left and just retype the letters but moving right would be oh so nice.
(I'm not a complete noob but my programming kung fu is still lacking compared to a lot of you...)
bump bump b.. (for min char requirement)
Taking a shot in the dark but I am guessing you would need to modify the keyboard.apk(?) .. or add a new keyboard with this mod done.
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You can always just modify the keyboard 'theme' and replace the key you want with a right arrow. It wouldn't work but it would look the way you want it to.
The LG Optimus F3Q (D520) is a phone with "Five-Line Slide-Out QWERTY Keyboard with PC-Like Shortcuts" (LG website). Missing from the keyboard however, is the "Ctrl" key. This brief guide shall attempt to show how an arbitrary key may be remapped for it.
Root the phone. Saferoot by k1mu works for this phone, although I found that the phone did appear to hang should one try to reboot or power off using the hardware power button after rooting. Removing and replacing the battery boots up the phone without issue should that happen. Software-based rebooting works fine.
Install your favourite file explorer for root users. ES File Explorer File Manager worked well for me.
On the phone, navigate to the "/system/usr/keylayout" directory.
Make a copy of the "f3q-keypad.kl" file and put it somewhere safe in case you need to revert to it.
Edit the "f3q-keypad.kl" file using a text editor.
Look for the line "key 100 ALT_RIGHT WAKE_DROPPED". This corresponds to the fn key on the right side of the keyboard.
Replace "ALT_RIGHT" with "CTRL_RIGHT".
Exit the file and save. View it again to verify that your changes have been saved.
Reboot.
Try it out. Ctrl-C should work in a terminal emulator.
To have even greater control over the remapping, you would also need to edit the "f3q-keypad.kcm" file in the "/system/usr/keychars" directory.
Note! If you are using connectbot, please obtain at least version 1.8.1 from connectbot at GitHub. Version 1.7.1 of connectbot in the Google Play store did not recognise the Ctrl command when I tried. Thus, it may be possible that some other programs may also not recognise the Ctrl command.
Disclaimer: I mucked around a lot by trial and error as version 1.7.1 of connectbot was tripping me up, so I had changed a lot more things than what I had listed in the steps above. However, looking back at it, I doubt that any other changes I had made were truly necessary.
Helpful stuff:
appelflap has a button remapper app, which I installed, but didn't appear to be able to do what I wanted. However, the KeynrTracker.apk he linked is very helpful should you very quickly want to know which key corresponds to what.
References:
Key Layout Files
Key Character Maps Files
List of Unicode characters
Other thoughts:
I found Link2SD and Foldermount [ROOT] to be indispensible for this phone.
Thanks! I just might try replacing that pesky write and share app key with CTRL...
It would satisfy a request of mine for my F3Q ROM.
EDIT: Downloaded the app. Because pressing the key pushes the app to the background, it won't capture.
Last line of the file though says "WRITE_SHARE". Think I got somewhere.
Sure did, "WRITE_SHARE" now replaced with "CTRL_LEFT", and is working like a charm!
Glad this helped somebody !
joel.maxuel said:
Thanks! I just might try replacing that pesky write and share app key with CTRL...
It would satisfy a request of mine for my F3Q ROM.
EDIT: Downloaded the app. Because pressing the key pushes the app to the background, it won't capture.
Last line of the file though says "WRITE_SHARE". Think I got somewhere.
Sure did, "WRITE_SHARE" now replaced with "CTRL_LEFT", and is working like a charm!
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Keth Tenderfoot said:
Glad this helped somebody !
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how to deal with sticky keys?
Polish keyboard mapping on F3Q
Hi, I'm sharing my .kcm and .kl files of the F3Q used with the Polish characters mapped to the respective keys.
(Note to the German users of F3Q: you might edit my f3q-keypad.kcm file ,and map your äöüß characters to the aous keys, if you feel like having your language version of the mapping.)
Keyboard allocation modifications:
SEARCH key mapped to TAB
WRITE_SHARE key mapped to CTRL_LEFT
ALT_RIGHT key mapped to CTRL_RIGHT
PL layout: [ęąółżźćń] mapped on ctrl+[eaolzxcn]
PL layout: [„] mapped on ctrl+[k]
PL layout: [”] mapped on ctrl+[,]
The files have to replace /system/usr/keychars/f3q-keypad.kcm and /system/usr/keylayout/f3q-keypad.kl respectively to be active.
Hallo Pruszków,
Thanx for your polish Keymaps, great work!!!
At the moment I try to modfy them to German. It works fine so far, but now my question is, how can I use the right "fn" key (which is the new ctrl/alt key) without pressing at the same moment as the vowel/consonant, which I want to modify? With the left "fn" key I can first press the button, then release it and it holds its function.
Do you know what I mean?
Would be fantastic, if there is a solution too!
Best regards & dziękuję,
sÖren
fn/alt or ctrl?
Hi Sören,
Thanks for sharing your feedback. I'm glad my stuff could be of some help to you!
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how can I use the right "fn" key (which is the new ctrl/alt key) without pressing at the same moment as the vowel/consonant, which I want to modify? With the left "fn" key I can first press the button, then release it and it holds its function.
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Well, the "fn" labeled key was originally associated with the "alt" behavior. The "alt" keeps its mode when you press and release it. But I mapped the right "fn" to the "ctrl" bahavior, and... "ctrl" works just when you press and hold it. So, what to do in your case?
You might get back to the original "fn' mapping (in the .kl file) and keep the right "fn" as "alt", and then define äöüß (in the .kcm file) in combination with "alt" instead of "ctrl".
But...
there is a challenge with the special characters already mapped to the keys. E.g. let's take the key "u". Originally "alt" and "u" prints "+". When you'd map "alt" and "u" as "ü" then you'd loose any possibility to get "+". I have no good idea how to resolve that well. Maybe you'd map "+" to: "ctrl" and "u"? Then you'd use "ctrl" only from the key 59 (CTRL_LEFT), as the key 100 you'd map back to ALT_RIGHT.
The bottom line is: you'd need to choose between "alt" and "ctrl" stuff when deciding your settings.
In my case I took "ctrl" for my Polish mapping, as I'm used to press and hold the "fn" to print the Polish characters. If you're used to press and release, to print a German character, you might consider using "alt" instead.
I hope this helps.
Tschüs,
Bernard
Remapping IME
Thank you for the post Keth, very easy explained.
I am wondering about modifying not the standard character map, but the LG Keyboard IME.
I could not find any alternative input method with a good support for physical keyboard and good dictionaries, so I thought it may be better to modify the included input method than using a different one, correct me if I am wrong.
So I extracted the LGEIMEbin.apk from the system/apps directory, and opened it on the computer to figure out how to modify it.
Keyboard layout are saved in XML, so I supposed it should be easy to modify with a text editor like Notepad++, and just say for every key or combination of keys what kind of character do I want.
Well, I was wrong, as the xml do not contain any clear structure that is in any way possible to understand as it was for f3q-keypad.kcm and f3q-keypad.kl.
I tried to open all kind of xml files included in the LGEIMEbin.apk, and all of them presented non recognised characters, as you can see in the picture that can be found at this address:
img4web.com/i/D3RC42.png
Has anybody any hint of why notepad++ does not recognise those characters and how could I correctly visualise them?
I no longer use Multiling O, but use Floris Board on my phone. It, imo, is a superior keyboard.
GitHub - florisboard/florisboard: An open-source keyboard for Android which respects your privacy. Currently in early-beta.
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As with my other post about the Jbak2 keyboard for tablets (here https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/guide-jbak2-keyboard-t4016959), I present instructions for installing and configuring the Multiling O keyboard for use on phones. I prefer using Multiling O on my phone because its default configuration is almost perfect for phones (easily adjustable keyboard size, just the right amount of keys), and requires just a few changes to make it perfect for a phone.
You can install from https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kl.ime.oh&hl=en
Like the Jbak2 keyboard, this has only four permissions (although different ones):
android.permission.VIBRATE
android.permission.READ_USER_DICTIONARY
android.permission.WRITE_USER_DICTIONARY
android.permission.INTERNET (used to download
Themes/Addons, but not required to function properly)
Link to my shared pCloud http://pc.cd/VJ47 New http://u.pc.cd/v9s7
To try out my configuration (see screenshot) MultiLingO-Screenshot.png
Download it (it's just a plain-text file) MultiLingO-keyboard_Settings.txt
Open it and Copy entire contents to your clipboard
Go to Settings⇛Misc.⇛Import|Export⇛Settings, then tap 'Paste' to replace what's already there with what you just copied to the clipboard.
TIP: To see full functionality, including emojis, PressHold the BlackGearIcon, and slide to the desired function.
TIP: After PressHold the BlackGearIcon⇛Emoji, you will see emoji *categories*. Press one to see full list of emojis.
TIP: Press the red lock icon to return to main keyboard layout.
You can read another post about the MultiLing O keyboard by @mermaidkiller here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-multiling-o-keyboard-highly-t3629298
hi
the link provided by you (http://pc.cd/VJ47) is not working
please share a working link
thanks
rajesh6432 said:
hi
the link provided by you (http://pc.cd/VJ47) is not working
please share a working link
thanks
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New link added. I monitor this thread, so I'll see whatever message is posted here.
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hey there, do you happen to know how to make the Ctrl key lock/toggle on and off like the Shift key? Or of any still active community i can ask in?
@r0dster dont think its possible.
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@r0dster dont think its possible.
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damn really? it seems like such an essential functionality for basic key shortcuts like ctrl + arrow/backspace/delete to navigate/select, delete/f-delete words easily, and so many other shortcuts. instead of having to create different buttons/gestures for each direction and for each key…
You are still able to design the kb the way you like with your desired "shortcuts" I say shortcuts but you should look over http://honsoapps.appspot.com/1/k.html and redesign default or own layout.
biopsin said:
You are still able to design the kb the way you like with your desired "shortcuts" I say shortcuts but you should look over http://honsoapps.appspot.com/1/k.html and redesign default or own layout.
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but i can’t do that without a toggle-able button, can i?
let me clarify, lets say the layout i’m using only has Shift, Backspace, Delete and Arrow keys. i’d then only need 1 toggle-able Ctrl key for ctrl + arrows (like shift + arrows for selecting).
but if i want to do that without a toggle button (since i can’t hold it down), i’d need to make 2 dedicated buttons for word-forward and word-back. same happens with ctrl + backspace (now needs 1 more dedicated button) and ctrl + delete (yet 1 more dedicated button). plus for ctrl + up or down (yet 2 more dedicated buttons).
so with just these few shortcuts, what would have only needed 1 toggle-able Ctrl button, instead now needs 6 different dedicated buttons (or 6 different gestures, if using [4D:…]). now imagine i want to add shift to the combination for even more shortcuts, that’s another 6 more dedicated buttons on top (now we’re at 12 extra dedicated buttons/gestures instead of 1 toggle-able Ctrl button). or am i missing some trick?
and don’t worry, i know about creating layouts
I see, yea it would be sound having more sticky functionbuttons. I guess the dev no longer respond either.
Maybe the dude over at Unexpected-Keyboard might have something going, but its not quite the same.
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I see, yea it would be sound having more sticky functionbuttons. I guess the dev no longer respond either.
Maybe the dude over at Unexpected-Keyboard might have something going, but its not quite the same.
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yea, i’m kinda hoping it’s possible in some less known way/some workaround. because implementing shift to be toggle-able but no way for ctrl and alt just seems like an odd development decision, as all three keys are used as “hold-down combo keys” on pc. and yea the dev has long left this project, just hoping that he already implemented it in some sort of way
thanks, i’ll check out unexpected-keyboard but i’m sure there’s no chance that overall it can do what multiling can unfortunately. every time i develop my layouts a bit further i discover something new, it has insane versatility throughout
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yea, i’m kinda hoping it’s possible in some less known way/some workaround. because implementing shift to be toggle-able but no way for ctrl and alt just seems like an odd development decision, as all three keys are used as “hold-down combo keys” on pc. and yea the dev has long left this project, just hoping that he already implemented it in some sort of way
thanks, i’ll check out unexpected-keyboard but i’m sure there’s no chance that overall it can do what multiling can unfortunately. every time i develop my layouts a bit further i discover something new, it has insane versatility throughout
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Have you tried jBak2 keyboard (my xda thread in OP) has info?
I no longer use MultiLingo, but use jBak2 on my tablet, and Florisboard on my phone.
jBak2 is in active development and has *many* improvements from the version available on Play Store. Although I've liked the newer versions' features I don't use them any longer because they have
android.permission.INTERNET
android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE
and I don't really need the new features.
If you need the link to get/check out the new versions pm me.
Hi,
with Multiling O keyboard, to write an accented letter (é, à. ò, ù, etc) I used to write the letter first and then,
in the rightmost place of the second row of letters, appeared the letter with the accent so I had just to tap there
to get what I was looking for. Now this behaviour has disappeared (don't updated the app and don't know what happened):
I can I get it back?
Thanks.
fabio
fabiospark said:
Hi,
with Multiling O keyboard, to write an accented letter (é, à. ò, ù, etc) I used to write the letter first and then,
in the rightmost place of the second row of letters, appeared the letter with the accent so I had just to tap there
to get what I was looking for. Now this behaviour has disappeared (don't updated the app and don't know what happened):
I can I get it back?
Thanks.
fabio
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I don't know. Also, I no longer use Multiling O (gonna update the OP), but use Floris Board on my phone. It *does* have accented characters, and, imo, is a superior keyboard.
GitHub - florisboard/florisboard: An open-source keyboard for Android which respects your privacy. Currently in early-beta.
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TiTiB said:
I don't know. Also, I no longer use Multiling O (gonna update the OP), but use Floris Board on my phone. It *does* have accented characters, and, imo, is a superior keyboard.
GitHub - florisboard/florisboard: An open-source keyboard for Android which respects your privacy. Currently in early-beta.
An open-source keyboard for Android which respects your privacy. Currently in early-beta. - GitHub - florisboard/florisboard: An open-source keyboard for Android which respects your privacy. Curren...
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But in Florisboard swipe writing only works in English. A pitty by now, let's see if there is any other update soon
years later, and im using it just fine on my ricedroid a13
hopefully honso will popup with an update since some people think its dead so theres no use trying it out
I don't know how but I lost the ability to add the accents with two strokes: letter then accent, and I can't find a way to restore this functionality.
DO you know anything about it?
Thanks.
fm.
fonzacus said:
years later, and im using it just fine on my ricedroid a13
hopefully honso will popup with an update since some people think its dead so theres no use trying it out
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yes sir, Its the best one out there still working fine for me too.
Hopefully waiting for Honso to release another wild update.
Still use this Multiling O, the feature that i like are: autotext, auto count (1*1 will count =2)
still cant find other keyboard that has this 2 features.
anyone know any keyboard with this 2 features? thanks you
Update: for Autotext,already found texpand just now.very impressive.
Auto count / sum math still not found