Just got my G-Tablet off of WOOT and wanted to let everyone know that it shipped with version 1.1-3389. Just thought I would ease everyones mind around here.
A few others have said the same - thanks! 3389 is a good baseline for mods, FYI.
3588 is what you'd get with the OTA updater, and I would actually recommend doing that first - 3588 came out in January and is a pretty rock-solid stock ROM. It's an even better baseline than 3389, imo. And the 3588 recovery is the only recovery that works with the 3991 UAT, so it might be a requirement for future stock ROMs. We don't know this for a fact yet, but better safe than sorry.
The first thing mine did was update to 1.1-3588. I'm off to figure out how to get the Market on it.
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A few others have said the same - thanks! 3389 is a good baseline for mods, FYI.
3588 is what you'd get with the OTA updater, and I would actually recommend doing that first - 3588 came out in January and is a pretty rock-solid stock ROM. It's an even better baseline than 3389, imo. And the 3588 recovery is the only recovery that works with the 3991 UAT, so it might be a requirement for future stock ROMs. We don't know this for a fact yet, but better safe than sorry.
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Well apparently there will be a second batch, which I guess mine will be a part of, so there is still a chance for 3991 to still be used.
Just because you're in the second batch to be processed doesn't mean that it's a second batch of tablets. I seriously doubt that they would (or are even could) send out orders based on the build date (oldest units first). The warehouse guys just didn't get to print out your shipping label before the end of their shift.
I'm guessing they are all 3389 - I'm sure they work off the same image.
However, I'd check it anyway - better safe than sorry, imo.
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Just because you're in the second batch to be processed doesn't mean that it's a second batch of tablets. I seriously doubt that they would (or are even could) send out orders based on the build date (oldest units first). The warehouse guys just didn't get to print out your shipping label before the end of their shift.
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Yeah I agree your tablet will be like the rest from woot!!!! So if we even see 3991 it will be a ota update!!!!
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Yeah I agree your tablet will be like the rest from woot!!!! So if we even see 3991 it will be a ota update!!!!
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If you see 3991 on your Woot tablet, please tell us immediately. I would very shocked at this point if that happened, but then again I didn't expect 3389 either. I really thought they were going to be 3588.
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Just because you're in the second batch to be processed doesn't mean that it's a second batch of tablets. I seriously doubt that they would (or are even could) send out orders based on the build date (oldest units first). The warehouse guys just didn't get to print out your shipping label before the end of their shift.
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One of the woot staffers gave an unofficial update the day after the purchasing ended and said that they were getting a rush shipment on Monday from the vendor to fulfill the second half of the orders. So they are physically a separate set from the first batch.
Just FYI, I got mine today and it was 3389.
Is there a point to doing the update?
Going to flash Vegan and the 5.1.1 add on now.
I copied the update.zip and all the files off the Gtab before I did anything. I'm betting that's a restore to 3389.
Edit: Updater-script says it's 3389.
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Just FYI, I got mine today and it was 3389.
Is there a point to doing the update?
Going to flash Vegan and the 5.1.1 add on now.
I copied the update.zip and all the files off the Gtab before I did anything. I'm betting that's a restore to 3389.
Edit: Updater-script says it's 3389.
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It's not a requirement, but I think it's a good idea to flash to 3588 first. The reason is that you'll get the latest bootloader and recovery, which ROMs like VEGAn don't touch.
Recovery is the one that concerns me, as 3588 recovery seems to be a kind of "gateway" recovery that might (and I stress "might") be needed to get you to a future firmware level. So, imo, I would flash to 3588 first, THEN start using ROMs if you want. It's a safer bet, again imo.
Thanks for the confirm on that update.zip -- sounds like it's stock 3389, like you mentioned.
received my tablet from woot today. ill post back as soon as its charged and powered up with the version.
roebeet said:
It's not a requirement, but I think it's a good idea to flash to 3588 first. The reason is that you'll get the latest bootloader and recovery, which ROMs like VEGAn don't touch.
Recovery is the one that concerns me, as 3588 recovery seems to be a kind of "gateway" recovery that might (and I stress "might") be needed to get you to a future firmware level. So, imo, I would flash to 3588 first, THEN start using ROMs if you want. It's a safer bet, again imo.
Thanks for the confirm on that update.zip -- sounds like it's stock 3389, like you mentioned.
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I am new to all this, so excuse me for some newbie questions.
Most of the walkthroughs to install a moded ROM, seem to install Clockworkmod first. How is that different from what you call "recovery" here. Will it replace the stock 3588 recovery? Or by the "3588 recovery" do you mean the bootloader part that calls the Clockworkmod. Is there a way to install a ROM without Clockworkmod? This is specifically for 3588.
I ask because I see some discussions about TNT Lite 5 where it seems to break with Clockworkmod. So if we want to get to TNT Lite 5 in the near future, should we now install Clockworkmod?
I am asking this specifically for the woot buyers who it looks like get 3389->3588
Any pointers would be very helpful.
thanks
cbay said:
I am new to all this, so excuse me for some newbie questions.
Most of the walkthroughs to install a moded ROM, seem to install Clockworkmod first. How is that different from what you call "recovery" here. Will it replace the stock 3588 recovery? Or by the "3588 recovery" do you mean the bootloader part that calls the Clockworkmod. Is there a way to install a ROM without Clockworkmod? This is specifically for 3588.
I ask because I see some discussions about TNT Lite 5 where it seems to break with Clockworkmod. So if we want to get to TNT Lite 5 in the near future, should we now install Clockworkmod?
I am asking this specifically for the woot buyers who it looks like get 3389->3588
Any pointers would be very helpful.
thanks
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Clockworkmod is non-vendor third party recovery replacement, wheras "standard recovery" is stock recovery (this is what the vendor supplies).
TNT Lite 5 was pulled after about a week, due to more than a few issues where users were soft bricking their devices. Going on metrics I tried to compile, the majority of the problems stemmed from the use of clockworkmod, thus my reasoning for not recommending its use anymore. This is despite the fact that the update it was based on was a non-released firmware. I will explain further. Btw, we are seeing similar issues over in the Notion Ink Adam forums in notioninkhacks.com, for the same exact reasons (clockworkmod).
In the case of the GTAB, the vendor (Viewsonic) adds the bootloader.bin to its stock update firmware. And it has been updated at least twice tmk - once in a November firmware update, once in a December firmware update. And also with this 3991 UAT update, but for the sake of argument we won't count that one. But they have updated it in released firmware.
But clockworkmod users do not get that update, as the program doesn't support updating the bootloader.
3388 to 3588 seems to have the same bootloader so, for the short term, using clockworkmod is probably OK. But there is no guarantee that a future update will not require a bootloader change. Again, we have already seen this happen with the NI Adam, and also the Viewsonic non-released UAT. So, with all that being said, I cannot recommend Clockworkmod as a flashing tool.
I've actually kept TNT Lite 5 (which is now TwoTapsX) on ICE specifically because of the expected surge of new Woot users. The last thing I want to happen is for a large number of inexperienced users with mixed information to flash that firmware with the wrong tool (clockworkmod) and then soft-brick their device.
I actually require clockworkmod for my gADAM mod because that mod requires a user data wipe, which standard recovery does not support. But gADAM has a "Recovery Pack" built-in - what this does is allow the user to easily flip between standard recovery and clockworkmod, as needed. Since gADAM is a 1.1-based mod, the use of clockworkmod to flash it is low risk. But if you later flashed to a mod that might require a new bootloader, the Recovery Tool allows you to put standard recovery back before you flash again.
I know this is all very confusing - believe me, it is for me as well. Suffice is to say that modded ROMs are risky business and you should read the instructions very carefully before proceeding. I have started to add the firmware type in my own ROMs as a guide - "1.1" for example. So, a "1.1" to "1.1" firmware mod change should be a low risk, for example. Right now, most of the stock ROMs and probably all the modded ROMs are "1.1" based.
If it is possible, maybe some admin could update the last message in the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006571) you had posted on woot's discussion page. Either link here, or just update and say: hey, people got some woot gTabs in already and they are the 3389 version.
I read this above post, but have not received my woot gTab (so no idea what version I'm getting). Good thing I searched first and found this post. Just to put my mind at ease
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If it is possible, maybe some admin could update the last message in the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006571) you had posted on woot's discussion page. Either link here, or just update and say: hey, people got some woot gTabs in already and they are the 3389 version.
I read this above post, but have not received my woot gTab (so no idea what version I'm getting). Good thing I searched first and found this post. Just to put my mind at ease
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i can't update it as the moderators locked it (trust me, I want to update it). I already PM'd jerdog to either open it up or delete it, as I don't think it's needed anymore. I'm not a moderator so I cannot do this, myself.
EDIT: It's been unstickied and updated. TheImpaler handled the unsticky / unlock.
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Clockworkmod is non-vendor third party recovery replacement, wheras "standard recovery" is stock recovery (this is what the vendor supplies).
But clockworkmod users do not get that update, as the program doesn't support updating the bootloader.
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Thanks for the detailed answer Roebeet!
CWM not updating the bootloader is the main problem isnt it?
Also that it overwrites stock recovery.(True?)
If CWM overwites stock recovery, reverting to 3588 using CWM, might still not enable things like OTA update, right?
So, I see that CWM will work with current ROMS (except TNT Lite 5) and everyone will be happy till the newer ROMS come along based on 3991 or later. At that point, it will become a lot harder for people to get to the new ROM as the new bootloader will have certainly changed.
Alternatively, if people wait for a Viewsonic 3991 or later OTA update from Viewsonic, CWM will work again for some time until the bootloader changes significantly. (possibly).
So how does one get a new ROM without CWM?
I have searched some on the forums and I see
1. Use CWM, but comment out some "assert". This was used by people reverting to stock, and seems sketchy.
2. Use nvflash. Is there a walkthrough for this for Vegan/TNT Lite? I see one for going to bekit 's original image but not to any arbitrary ROM. Also this repartitions the SD, has this caused problems with OTA updates?
3.Using adb. Maybe 2 and 3 are related, but I think did see somewhere to get back to stock recovery using adb. Can we do a new rom update through adb, without risking breaking stock recovery?
I wish I had bought 2 gtablets, one to enjoy and one to tinker with
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Thanks for the detailed answer Roebeet!
CWM not updating the bootloader is the main problem isnt it?
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Correct.
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Also that it overwrites stock recovery.(True?)
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Yes, they cannot co-exist. Stock recovery (specifically 3588) will update the bootloader, I've tested this repeatedly. clockworkmod .8 does not.
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If CWM overwites stock recovery, reverting to 3588 using CWM, might still not enable things like OTA update, right?
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Not exactly. If you have cwm and revert to stock 3588, you might not have the latest bootloader (since clockworkmod doesn't touch that) but everything else should be reverted back to stock. But an important note: I've heard stories from users who used clockworkmod to revert to 3588 stock and, although it worked, recovery was actually broken. This happened to a lot of users who were trying to get back to 3588 stock before they upgraded to my later-pulled TNT Lite 5. This is actually the reason why I created the 3588 Recovery Pack.
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So, I see that CWM will work with current ROMS (except TNT Lite 5) and everyone will be happy till the newer ROMS come along based on 3991 or later. At that point, it will become a lot harder for people to get to the new ROM as the new bootloader will have certainly changed.
Alternatively, if people wait for a Viewsonic 3991 or later OTA update from Viewsonic, CWM will work again for some time until the bootloader changes significantly. (possibly).
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Possibly. Lets assume for a moment that the new firmware is a released "1.2" with a new bootloader. Once everyone moves off the "1.1" to "1.2", the issues with the bootloader will probably stabilize. Until there's a "1.3", of course.
And yes, this is all speculation. Viewsonic could throw us a curve balll with their next firmware.
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So how does one get a new ROM without CWM?
I have searched some on the forums and I see
1. Use CWM, but comment out some "assert". This was used by people reverting to stock, and seems sketchy.
2. Use nvflash. Is there a walkthrough for this for Vegan/TNT Lite? I see one for going to bekit 's original image but not to any arbitrary ROM. Also this repartitions the SD, has this caused problems with OTA updates?
3.Using adb. Maybe 2 and 3 are related, but I think did see somewhere to get back to stock recovery using adb. Can we do a new rom update through adb, without risking breaking stock recovery?
I wish I had bought 2 gtablets, one to enjoy and one to tinker with
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Right as the Wooters were buying their GTABs, I did a few things to help users out with recovery options.
1) I created a "3588 Recovery Pack". This is a flash update.zip that will add few sripts to your rooted 1.1-based ROM and will allow you to flip between clockworkmod and 3588 stock recovery with a minimum of fuss.
2) I added the Recovery Pack to TNT Lite 4.3.0 and gADAM 1.3.0, the two active mods that I support. So it's built-in there.
nvflash is a different animal. Think of it as a low-level format tool for when your device is messed up and cannot boot anymore. It's good to know about it and learn how to use it, imo - some devices like the Advent VEGA and even Viewsonic's Viewpad10s offer nvflash updates, only. nvflash is a tool specifically for Tegra 2 devices.
adb is a generic "remote shell" tool that is part of the Android SDK. You can find information about adb here or on other Android sites, and that would apply to the GTAB as well. you can make changes via adb, including flash updates, but you need to know what you're doing.
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2) I added the Recovery Pack to TNT Lite 4.3.0 and gADAM 1.3.0, the two active mods that I support. So it's built-in there.
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That is great! I dont think I will have the patience to wait for Viewsonic to release an update beyond a few weeks.
I was debating between Vegan and TNT Lite, the Recovery Pack will push me towards TNT Lite, at least till I can get a 1.2 bootloader.
Thanks for all the help
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Recently received G tablet from woot
I'm new to this and would like to know what the best thing to do to my viewsonic g tablet purchased from woot that makes it run the best way. I'm not sure how many and what mod's are recommneded. I've read alot of the posts here and figure TNT Lite (version?) is highly recommended. It is 3588, build frf91. Please give me the best mod's to do, what versions, and where I can find the step-by-step to make it all happen. thanks
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Earlier before reading the forum and all the "recall" related business, I was working on my "stock" G-Tablet. It has had no updates and I have been trying to keep it as stock as possible.
It popped up offering me OTA 1.0.1-3053.
Seems the most recent number I ever heard before was like 2960-something.
Description said it offers: (1) Improved overall system performance; (2) Improvements to the Weather application; and (3) Improved reliability of the Factory Data Reset procedure.
Is this just one of the old OTA updates I never saw before -- or is this something new?
I'm not installing it until I know what's going on.
Rev
I just got my Gtab last week, and I think that was the OTA that popped up when I powered up. Flash (from xda) works with it, whereas I have the impression that it didn't before that. Also Slingplayer, albeit with the "start it many times" problem.
Jim
OTA from stock today..
Picked up a new gtab at Sears. Had the OTA 3053 update. It's much snappier than the original. Still a bit sluggish, but much more usable than the original.
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Earlier before reading the forum and all the "recall" related business, I was working on my "stock" G-Tablet. It has had no updates and I have been trying to keep it as stock as possible.
It popped up offering me OTA 1.0.1-3053.
Seems the most recent number I ever heard before was like 2960-something.
Description said it offers: (1) Improved overall system performance; (2) Improvements to the Weather application; and (3) Improved reliability of the Factory Data Reset procedure.
Is this just one of the old OTA updates I never saw before -- or is this something new?
I'm not installing it until I know what's going on.
Rev
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BTW, did you have TNT lite installed? I think roebeet said that he removed the TNT updater. Maybe that's why no notification before?
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Oops. Didn't notice you said 'stock'. So not sure why you didn't get a notification before this....
jimcpl,
I deliberately kept the wifi off while I was checking out all the "stock" stuff I wanted to know.
Ironically, I installed CWM to make a backup of the original stock stuff and forgot that CWM would change the recovery.img.
Now I have to either find and replace recovery.img in the backup or find another way to take out CWM.
Or......just go ahead and MOD it, which is what I intended anyhow after checking out the stock stuff.
Thanks.
Rev
Hi.
OK. Got it.
I think that roebeet said that there's now a way to go back to stock recovery, after CWM. Might want to check with him?
That was one of the reasons I've stayed stock, plus didn't want to lose OTA yet...
Jin
jimcpl,
I found the thread, which has two images from VS in it. But when I deleted the recovery "assert" from the .zip file as it said is required not to conflict with CWM -- it didn't. It just left it there and so I still have v. 2967 with CWM.
I will leave him a note in Development.
Anyhow, thanks. I'll either find a way or move on to the next project.
Rev
3053 came out a week(?) ago - TnT Lite 2.3.0 / 2.4.0 are based on it.
There's are stock ROM's if you want to backout of a mod (see the link in the FAQ area of my sig), or you can use nvflash and use bekit's original firmware image with it.
roebeet,
I have successfully run the 2967 rom update as you suggested, but took out the "assert" line for the recovery.img as the thread says is necessary. As a result, it didn't take out CWM -- which is my main goal.
Is there a way to overwrite CWM short of going to nvflash. I think I have the files to do a flash, but not the utilities needed to do it. So it would be easier if I could overwrite.
Rev
It's bad when you have to reply to yourself???!!!
But I also had a thread in Development which Roebeet answered and triggered me to find the answer to this too.
I wound up taking the Vanilla 3053 rom as listed in Roebeet's FAQ thread. I made a "Recovery" file with Command in it to start the update. Then put that along with the downloaded 3053 update.zip in the /sdcard directory. Brought up CWM and started the zip file running. It picked up the recovery file the first time through, showed the boxwitharrow that goes with regular recover and completed.
Then it rebooted again and repeated the same load using regular recovery. When all was done, I had a OTA 3053-level tablet. I then reset the user data to make sure all was OK there, and I went in manually in ES file manager and deleted the old CWM directory and backup directory under it.
So now I am back to 3053 totally stock and should be able to get any OTA update that might come along.
Thanks to all who made suggestions.
Rev
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roebeet,
I have successfully run the 2967 rom update as you suggested, but took out the "assert" line for the recovery.img as the thread says is necessary. As a result, it didn't take out CWM -- which is my main goal.
Is there a way to overwrite CWM short of going to nvflash. I think I have the files to do a flash, but not the utilities needed to do it. So it would be easier if I could overwrite.
Rev
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Ah, I was the one who wrote that as I recall. Weeks ago, but it feels like a lot longer. I think earlier revisions of clockworkmod required that or else update.zip file updates would fail. But .08 seems A-OK.
roebeet, et al:
I think it would be a really good thing if folks would confirm what you are saying here -- which is what I experienced last night when I took mine back down to OTA 3053 version.
I was able to setup, flash the 3053 rom and cover up CWM (after doing necessary repairs with it) without doing an nvflash -- just using the recover process.
I think this is important because lots of folks would have the reassurance that they could recover if they make a mistake with only the normal flash procedure.
Or if someone wants to try modding they can know that they will be able to get back to an essentially "stock" machine if they need return/warranty options.
Rev
butchconner said:
roebeet, et al:
I think it would be a really good thing if folks would confirm what you are saying here -- which is what I experienced last night when I took mine back down to OTA 3053 version.
I was able to setup, flash the 3053 rom and cover up CWM (after doing necessary repairs with it) without doing an nvflash -- just using the recover process.
I think this is important because lots of folks would have the reassurance that they could recover if they make a mistake with only the normal flash procedure.
Or if someone wants to try modding they can know that they will be able to get back to an essentially "stock" machine if they need return/warranty options.
Rev
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At this point I would recommend flashing to 3053 anyway - it's the latest one and you can do the next person who owns your device a favor. I wouldn't even look at the previous two firmware updates, at this point.
For me, it definitely works with cm .08 and it definitely wipes recovery with standard. Do that, plus a user data wipe, and you are 100% vanilla.
Yea!!!!!!
Merry Christmas to All and to all -- how about let's get some sleep and then get down to some serious modding!
Rev
Found this in my TnT site scan:
http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/tapntap/viewsonic/update-smb_a1002-3991-user.zip
Build date is 2/12, and it's still Froyo. It looks like a lot of stuff was touched, perhaps they incorporated some recent Nvidia libs.
EDIT: They have a Flash player script in here - that's new.
EDIT2: So far, this update has competely borked my device. It's the bootloader or boot.img, so just keep that in mind. It could be that my device is all messed with all the recent flashing, but just be aware.
EDIT3: In case this is not already clear, this is a VERY dangerous update. Tread carefully - it requires stock 3588 as a baseline, including recovery.
3/28/2011 EDIT: Looks like Viewsonic pulled it (a case of the Woot! heebie-jeebies, perhaps?)
Sry to hear about your device. Hopefully you can figure it out. Bricked a phone before and took me a few weeks before I accidentally fixed it, lol.
As for the tnt update does this mean we may see another viewsonic ota update finally? Matbe they finally resolved the sluggishness issues and tntui will finally be usable
I got around the issue with using an older boot.img and bootloader. One (or both) are causing issues with my system.
They added a lockscreen - that will make some people very happy.
How did you get around this. I tried this update and it borked my device as well and I can't get past the viewsonic boot screen or load clockworkmod to boot the recovery kernel
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How did you get around this. I tried this update and it borked my device as well and I can't get past the viewsonic boot screen or load clockworkmod to boot the recovery kernel
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I used nvflash - I dropped the old bootloader and boot.img in there and ran it with that, and it booted up.
EDIT: I couldn't get wifi working for Quadrant, but Nenamark is ~40fps. My guess is that they updated a lot of the libs so that they in up-to-date with recent Nividia changes.
EDIT2: Camera is working, including rotation. Gsensor is still off for games, but that's not a surprise.
Thank god for nvflash. I thought I seriously boned myself today installing this new UAT version. I flashed back to stock, reinstalled clockworkmod, and then was able to get back up to TNT lite 4.2.4.
While I am posting, I would like to thank all the Devs for their time and efforts making these ROMS and instructional posts. Without your efforts this tablet would seriously blow donkey balls. I actually bought the G tablet with the full intention of getting rid of the stock ROM and unleashing the full potential of the underlying hardware with the ROMS here.
Thanks again
This is not bad at all, I forgot how nice the weather dashboard looked because I was too busy cursing this thing for being sooo slow. I remember the first day I got this thing, I couldn't even stand to use it. It was so frustrating. You,gojimi and rothnic did an amazing job to get this tab where it is today. I think viewsonic even "borrowed" some of you guys work, lol.. Thanks Again for you guys work!
UPDATE: I went completely stock before this update, (no clockwork mod) this new update 3991 looks like it has a built in recovery menu. I don't remember that on older versions
what were you running prior to returning to stock?
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what were you running prior to returning to stock?
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vegaN 5.1.1
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This is not bad at all, I forgot how nice the weather dashboard looked because I was too busy cursing this thing for being sooo slow. I remember the first day I got this thing, I couldn't even stand to use it. It was so frustrating. You,gojimi and rothnic did an amazing job to get this tab where it is today. I think viewsonic even "borrowed" some of you guys work, lol.. Thanks Again for you guys work!
UPDATE: I went completely stock before this update, (no clockwork mod) this new update 3991 looks like it has a built in recovery menu. I don't remember that on older versions
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I hadn't looked at their recovery - very nice. They are emulating what Notion Ink had done on their recovery.
This is going to be a nice update, once they shake out the bugs.
Here's a screenshot of the lockscreen, using the "classic" launcher:
Looks good, I like the changes.
2400 in Quadrant - and that's 3991 "stock", no changes. Normally stock is ~1900, I think.
I managed to get Wifi working by downleveling the Wifi drivers - that was needed to use the older kernel. I just don't understand why their new kernel doesn't work for me.
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2400 in Quadrant - and that's 3991 "stock", no changes. Normally stock is ~1900, I think.
I managed to get Wifi working by downleveling the Wifi drivers - that was needed to use the older kernel. I just don't understand why their new kernel doesn't work for me.
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Wow looks like that next update is going to be great!
Btw I was averaging @1700 quadrant score earlier today stock before I went up to 3991
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2400 in Quadrant - and that's 3991 "stock", no changes. Normally stock is ~1900, I think.
I managed to get Wifi working by downleveling the Wifi drivers - that was needed to use the older kernel. I just don't understand why their new kernel doesn't work for me.
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Looks/sounds very nice roebeet...can't wait for the push over OTA...I actually just went back to stock a few hours ago to mess with the enhancement pack with the January OTA update...it's actually fairly quick compared to the original stock...think I'll stick with it for a bit
I'm guessing that since it's a non-published update, then they may have an incomplete boot.img or possible they had to update the bootloader, who knows...could also be a "built-from-scratch" update that they are still working on, lol...doubtful but you never know
Good luck and here's hoping for an official push from Viewsonic here soon. The sooner they get this out, the sooner they can get to working on an official Viewsonic release of HC ;-) lol
Wow, that update is great! Though, sorry to hijack the thread, but I got no replies elsewhere, anyone had the "blank screen of dead" issue? I stop using my gtablet for a couple of weeks, and now that I boot it up again, the screen is white! (not even the VS birds..).
Keep pushing updates for us =)!
Thanks
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Wow, that update is great! Though, sorry to hijack the thread, but I got no replies elsewhere, anyone had the "blank screen of dead" issue? I stop using my gtablet for a couple of weeks, and now that I boot it up again, the screen is white! (not even the VS birds..).
Keep pushing updates for us =)!
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Do you have a Backup in clockwork mod? Do you have clockwork mod?
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Do you have a Backup in clockwork mod? Do you have clockwork mod?
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Yea, but again, thats not the issue. Theres nothing in the screen, not even booting to recovery, the screen is white, theres a thread about it, someone reported the same problem, I asked what happened to it, but got no reply! D:
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Yea, but again, thats not the issue. Theres nothing in the screen, not even booting to recovery, the screen is white, theres a thread about it, someone reported the same problem, I asked what happened to it, but got no reply! D:
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If you can't boot into recovery have you tried nvflash?
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Yea, but again, thats not the issue. Theres nothing in the screen, not even booting to recovery, the screen is white, theres a thread about it, someone reported the same problem, I asked what happened to it, but got no reply! D:
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You may want to head over to the development forums and check out the nvflash thread by roebeet...sounds to me like you'll need it. Good luck.
Question for you roebeet...how stable is this? Just wondering if I should even attempt to install it. Let me know what you think and thanks for all the hard work.
Found this in my TnT site scan:
http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/...-3991-user.zip
Build date is 2/12, and it's still Froyo. It looks like a lot of stuff was touched, perhaps they incorporated some recent Nvidia libs.
EDIT: They have a Flash player script in here - that's new.
Is there an enhancement pack with this, or is it available, even ?
Great men do great things.... like our developers! Thanks guys ALL OF YUU!!!
Some of you might know my name already - I own the TNT Lite and gADAM mods (active) and TwoTapsX mod (currently inactive). I'd like to make this statement now, so hopefully you will read this.
First and foremost : READ MY ORIGINAL POSTS for instructions on using my mods. I try to make it clear and break down what you need and how I recommend to proceed. For TNT Lite, gADAM and TwoTapsX, that is the first post in those threads - the same place where the download links are.
If you post in General or jump on the IRC, you might get ten power users telling you ten different ways of how to mod your device. I cannot control that, and have no intention to. I can only control the directions for my own mods, so I ask you to please read the instructions carefully. I do NOT recommend clockworkmod as an ongoing flashing tool, others here swear by it. I have my reasons for considering it a risk when flashing it because of problems with TNT Lite 5, and problems over in the Notion Ink Adam forums. This is already causing some confusion since not all the devs and power users agree, and it will probably continue to be this way. Again, I can only recommend with the mods I personally support, and my recommendations and directions are listed in my posts for each of the mods I support.
Please use the search button - we know it's not the greatest but there are a lot of redundant posts already. There's a very good chance that your question has already been addressed. Thanks in advance for trying a search, first. Unfortunately, there is no Wiki here yet, just a few FAQ's (I would recommend reading those, as well).
I believe that you should do an OTA update to 3588 before you start modding. That's my opinion, others disagree. But I think that's the best baseline you can have right now. Best to "play it safe", again imo. 3389 is a good baseline, but 3588 is a better one.
Lastly, I am not a moderator. People have asked me to create subforums, authorize new ROMs and ask me questions about other ROMs which I don't support. If you have any moderator questions, you should PM "theimpaler747" or post in his thread in the General section. Or if your question is in regard to a ROM I don't support, please contact that developer directly. They do not support my mods, and I don't support or control theirs.
Thanks for reading! I hope your stay in XDA is a fruitful one!
Roebeet,
I just was wondering:
About your recommendation NOT to use CWM (specifically, CWM .8) to flash, is that recommendation just for TNT version > 3588?
The reason for my question is that, per the other thread, I just flashed my Gtab from stock 3452 to stock 3588 last night, using CWM .8, which was already installed.
So, after that, I now have stock 3588 recovery (since flashing to 3588 overwrites CWM), and have been wondering whether or not I should re-install CWM .8.
As you may know, I'm pretty much a "stock kind of guy", i.e., the main reason that I updated to 3588 was in preparation for the next OTA, whenever that happens, because of the incompatible bootloader in 3991.
If I'm reading your post above correctly, your recommendation in my case would be "no, don't install/use CWM .8 anymore", right?
Now, for the benefit of others, who may want to go back to say a TNT version previous to 3588, or may want to flash a current, but other ROM (e.g., TNT lite earlier than 5.x), what about them?
Are they ok using CWM .8 still?
Jim
I would not recommend clockworkmod for flashing ROMs, unless the dev / modder specifically states it's required.
Example: TNT Lite 4.3.0 is a 1.1.-based ROM that is "close to stock". Because of that, standard recovery is recommended if you are coming from stock, because you probably won't boot loop. But, if you do, you can add clockworkmod after-the-fact via a microSD and I have instructions on how to do that in my TNTL first post.
For gADAM, you will almost certainly boot loop so I ask that clockworkmod be used that one time, to get it installed. That's because I know boot loops will occur and data wipes are required. But, you can add standard recovery back later.
The problem here is that we don't have a 1.1-based recovery solution that does BOTH user data wipes AND bootloader updates. The Notion Ink Adam, for example, has a standard recovery that does. And Viewsonic's UAT 3991 (the non-released firmware) also does. So, eventually, this will be a non-issue I believe. But right now, it's tricky.
As I mentioned in other posts, TNT Lite 4.3.0 and gADAM 1.3.0 have something called the "3588 Recovery Pack" -- two scripts that allow a user to easily flip back and forth between 3588 standard recovery and clockworkmod. I even have a standalone version that should work with any 1.1-based rooted ROM.
I personally still use clockworkmod for anything non-firmware flash related (like the nandroid backups and data wipes), but flip back to standard recovery if I plan to flash to another firmware, because of the bootloader flashing support.
roebeet - I know you've recieved countless kudos from the members here but I'd like to thank you myself for all of your efforts, I've only been on here a few days and I already see the impact of your contributions.
I'm guessing I will keep the stock ROM for awhile but as I said in a previous post I'm sure all your and all the other developers hard work contributed to a better more stable stock release.
DJ
Roebeet,
When you say "flip" between std recovery and CWM, do you mean you replace what's in the recovery partition? Are those scripts using nvflash? Or something else?
Jim
jimcpl said:
Roebeet,
When you say "flip" between std recovery and CWM, do you mean you replace what's in the recovery partition? Are those scripts using nvflash? Or something else?
Jim
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They are using a tool called "flash_image" - this is a binary found on other Android devices. I had a version on TNT Lite, but it really never worked very well, but I manged to fix it and wrote two shell scripts that flash the recovery partition while the GTAB is running. It actually works and I've been using it for the last week or so.
So, for example, the "fixrecovery.sh" script runs this:
Code:
/system/bin/flash_image recovery /system/etc/recovery/recovery.img
Where "recovery.img" is the 3588 stock recovery. I also have a script that will flash clockworkmod .8, if needed.
Full details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005080
New wooter here. Just want to say thanks to all the devs for the hard work and continued support! Lots of good information being posted and it all has been extremely helpful. Still waiting for my G-Tablet but I plan to play around with the stock ROM for a little while before I dive into any kind of modding. Thanks again!
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They are using a tool called "flash_image" - this is a binary found on other Android devices. I had a version on TNT Lite, but it really never worked very well, but I manged to fix it and wrote two shell scripts that flash the recovery partition while the GTAB is running. It actually works and I've been using it for the last week or so.
So, for example, the "fixrecovery.sh" script runs this:
Code:
/system/bin/flash_image recovery /system/etc/recovery/recovery.img
Where "recovery.img" is the 3588 stock recovery. I also have a script that will flash clockworkmod .8, if needed.
Full details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005080
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Hi,
Ahh! That makes sense. I think I remember seeing a flash_image binary when I adb shelled into the gtab when CWM was running, probably because CWM itself uses it to flash partitions.
That may be why CWM doesn't have that option, I.e., it'd have to overwrite itself, since it itself is in the recovery partition...
Jim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWtM7xyHtQs
Roebeet has made a very stable build on the 1.2firmware. Itwasnt hard at all to get there. I think if and when VS brings out new codes, it will only be 1.2 compatible. My thoughts only, not gospel
Anyway, this is how I was able to get this working the first time without any issues.
1) NVflash to base build
2) CWM to clear all data, cache. I used Calkulin's FORMAT ALL. boot to the os.
3) usb to the comp and slip in 3588 and recovery folder. rename 3588 to "update"
3) reboot with power and vol pressed. automatically installs 3588.
4) once insalled, boot to os.
5)usb to the comp and slip in 4349 and recovery folder. rename 3588 to "update"
6) reboot with power and vol pressed. automatically installs 4349.
7) once insalled, boot to os.
8) now find Roebeets Brilliant Ccolors ROM in another forum and repeat step 5 and 6 for this ROM. you shuold be good from there!
While I definitely respect the dev's work, I think I'm going to stay away from 1.2-based ROMs until VS gets its firmware upgrade situation sorted out once and for all.
Did you mean ... rename 4349 to "update" in this step?
5)usb to the comp and slip in 4349 and recovery folder. rename 3588 to "update"
g0t0 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWtM7xyHtQs
Roebeet has made a very stable build on the 1.2firmware. Itwasnt hard at all to get there. I think if and when VS brings out new codes, it will only be 1.2 compatible. My thoughts only, not gospel
Anyway, this is how I was able to get this working the first time without any issues.
1) NVflash to base build
2) CWM to clear all data, cache. I used Calkulin's FORMAT ALL. boot to the os.
3) usb to the comp and slip in 3588 and recovery folder. rename 3588 to "update"
3) reboot with power and vol pressed. automatically installs 3588.
4) once insalled, boot to os.
5)usb to the comp and slip in 4349 and recovery folder. rename 3588 to "update"
6) reboot with power and vol pressed. automatically installs 4349.
7) once insalled, boot to os.
8) now find Roebeets Brilliant Ccolors ROM in another forum and repeat step 5 and 6 for this ROM. you shuold be good from there!
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I agree
The firmware is running real stable.. I installed it last night and i am loving it.
ps - if you search for Brilliant Corners, it will be easier to find
cd112 said:
I agree
The firmware is running real stable.. I installed it last night and i am loving it.
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Any points on what you like on it, better than TNT Lite 4.4 (or any 1.1 ROM ). Things you could not do/were not as good in the older ROMs.
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i installed it when it was released. heads up make sure to install the 1.0.1 supp so that you can have flash support back up and rollin.
This rom is the only one that makes the tab seem like a tab and not a giant phone I've seen so far. Assume and market has no issues for me every other rom I couldn't get market to work.
Just my opinion!
I believe the new update that was pulled should have been more like this .
Would be better with a kernel but definitely a step in the right direction.
Dale
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This rom is the only one that makes the tab seem like a tab and not a giant phone I've seen so far. Assume and market has no issues for me every other rom I couldn't get market to work.
Just my opinion!
I believe the new update that was pulled should have been more like this .
Would be better with a kernel but definitely a step in the right direction.
Dale
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Keep in mind this is not a TnTLite-based mod, but it's based on VEGAn-Tab from GoJimi - it's a MOD to an existing ROM repackaged with a locked bootloader from Viewsonic. The theme applied looks cool!
EDIT: After a nice PM from roebeet, I am clarifying for those who don't know the following:
VEGAn-Tab, in it's original state, was a collaboration between GoJimi, rothnic and roebeet
as already stated in this post, this new Mod is based on VEGAn-Tab and will over time take on a different form, but it's base is VEGAn-Tab
there is no insinuation that roebeet lifted anything from GoJimi, only a correct statement that the base for this Mod came from VEGAn-Tab
There. That should hopefully clear up any misperception or misunderstanding as to what I was stating above. This mod looks great roebeet.
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Did you mean ... rename 4349 to "update" in this step?
5)usb to the comp and slip in 4349 and recovery folder. rename 3588 to "update"
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sorry. Yes rename to " update". Make sure you reinput another recovery folder. While the folder would still be there, the system deletes the command file so it doesn't loop back to installing the same file on a reboot.
notsob2002 said:
This rom is the only one that makes the tab seem like a tab and not a giant phone I've seen so far. Assume and market has no issues for me every other rom I couldn't get market to work.
Just my opinion!
I believe the new update that was pulled should have been more like this .
Would be better with a kernel but definitely a step in the right direction.
Dale
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hopefully when the new upload from VS turns up, it will correct the minor issues it has now. Very minor issues I should stress.
I must have missed it but did Robert stop posting here?
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB using XDA Premium App
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I must have missed it but did Robert stop posting here?
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB using XDA Premium App
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yeah, unfortunately. Google "Roebeet and XDA" and you will find some tidbits. It seems a real shame, especially for a site like this, to lose someone who really turned out great work and genuinely cared for and responded to questions about his work.
Thanks for the heads up on this rom. Definitely have to check this out.
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Any points on what you like on it, better than TNT Lite 4.4 (or any 1.1 ROM ). Things you could not do/were not as good in the older ROMs.
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hi cbay,
First of all this rom is based off the 1.2 (4349) bootloader. Also it has the feel of the Vegan-tab outlook. It is pretty responsive and the FC are almost to none. So far it has been stable and running like a champ.. I know roebeet has removed the phone apk to improve the battery life as well so that a big plus. Once i play with it more i will know more about this rom.
The HD videos are working really good as well as the tegra games.
Let us know how u make out.
So what's the benefit, if any, of installing this as opposed to VEGAn 5 with the supplement?
I am currently running 5 and it is VERY stable for me. Love it. It's my Daily Driver.
Any improvements on installing this? They look they same for the most part.
I have vegan 5 on one tablet and brilliant corners on my other tablet. I honestly can't really tell a big difference. BC may be slightly more stable. I still take the vegantab with me to work everyday but that is more because i have it setup perfectly than any particular problem with BC.
Both are very good.
pitamakan said:
While I definitely respect the dev's work, I think I'm going to stay away from 1.2-based ROMs until VS gets its firmware upgrade situation sorted out once and for all.
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Your lost then
jasco13 said:
I have vegan 5 on one tablet and brilliant corners on my other tablet. I honestly can't really tell a big difference. BC may be slightly more stable. I still take the vegantab with me to work everyday but that is more because i have it setup perfectly than any particular problem with BC.
Both are very good.
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I think hardware acceleration for vids work on BC but not vegan. Dun quote me, i haven had time to flash but ill do BC this weekend for sure. Nv tried vegan, always been on TNT Lite.
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Your lost then
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Nah ... the current Vegan ROMS work great, without the uncertainty.
hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
OTA updates will require a stock recovery. I'm in the process of getting an Idol 3 but I used to have an Idol 2 and, to return to a completely stock ROM, I had to use the Alcatel Mobile upgrade too which identified my phone, downloaded the correct firmware, and restored the phone. Prior to restoring back to stock, I had cwm and root.
Thanks for the reply I tried the software update but its not working keep saying I have the latest even when I did a full wipe. Using the latest 4.9.2 version...is there a way to make a twrp flashable ota zip from the downloaded update file in the ota cache..
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hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
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You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
famewolf said:
You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
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mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
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mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
tekka-maki said:
So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Omfg buddy, you said, '... you CAN install an OTA update with twrp' ; all I did was point out that I flashed previous updates (presumably the same way you're talking about), TWRP remained in tact afterward, & asked you to follow through with that point with, you know, the actual update in question here that defies many of your assertions. One of your recommendations is broken (Q), the other is hindsight (full backup) & last (update via TWRP) seemingly not feasible (unless someone were to submit updated /system) . Anyway it's all a moot point now since we're just measuring our junk.
I'm tickled you're running 5.1.1, as you've said repeatedly... I tried it briefly on Shamu & was happy to leave the LP quagmire all together & get to 6.0.1. Sufficed to say, there isn't anything perfect about this device or 5.1.1, which is why I'll leave as is & sell it. :good:
Thanks anyway.