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To help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, I tested this on my pops evo and my epic...MAJOR DIFFERENCE
After installing a new Kernel it is recommended tat you recalibrate our battery to get the most life out of your battery. I suggest using Phoenix kernel but your a grown man[or woman] choose your kernel
Hope this helps
Thx to bigdbag for these additional steps
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My god. I was highly skeptical of this but I tried a quick version of the instructions.
I did the following:
1. Charge to 100% while phone = ON
2. Once at 100%, unplug charger and turn phone OFF
3. Plug in charger for 5 minutes while phone = OFF
4. Unplug charger and turn phone ON
5. Leave phone ON for 5 minutes
6. Plug in charger for 5 minutes while phone = OFF
and the results... are miraculous. I'm running Phoenix Kernel v.1.43 and stock rom w/ drm removed.
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Trick trick trick trickle charge Battery is in fast charge mode when it begins charging from a certain percentage (although slow). When the charge is in the 90's and you unplug and plug it back in it trickle charges to completion. This does indeed work. Works best in my opinion when you do this after you let the battery completely drain, plug in, recovery mode, wipe battery stats and then turn on.
And then do what you stated above.
Yes!!!!!!!!
Totally gonna do this since my battery seems to be on the down side compared to everyone else's. :]
dcorn619 said:
Totally gonna do this since my battery seems to be on the down side compared to everyone else's. :]
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i also reccomend an external battery charger that u place the battery into. no need for the trick. Ive used this trick before i got the external charger and yes it does work very well!
+1 on the ext charger. I have two batt. If I charge with the phone... one- goes from 100 to 97 withing sec from when I unplug it and two- it doesn't last as long. Using the charge and switching out the batts. Stays at 100 for a while and it will last forever too.
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a454nova said:
+1 on the ext charger. I have two batt. If I charge with the phone... one- goes from 100 to 97 withing sec from when I unplug
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I noticed this as well, so when my indicator LED turns blue and it says 100%, I unplug, then immediately plug back in until blue.. lather rinse repeat.. after about 3 or 4 times it finally stays at 100% when unplugged..
That being said, I'm gonna have to try to find an external charger and another battery...
My local sprint store sells a charger with extra battery for $49.99. Its an external charger that fits in your pocket. With charging cord of course.
Zei said:
To help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, I tested this on my pops evo and my epic...MAJOR DIFFERENCE
Hope this helps
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tried this, doesnt' seem to work for me. I unplugged, turned phone off, and charged, but phone said fully charged after like 15 minutes, I assume once it says 100% on the green battery that shows up when phone is off that I shouldn't just let it sit there? its not charging at that point anymore is it?
then i unplugged, turned on phone, waited 2 minutes, turned off, charged again, 15 minutes or so it was fully charged again.
This reminds me of the chargobics that some ppl did on their evo to get better battery life....never really helped me.
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Trick trick trick trickle charge Battery is in fast charge mode when it begins charging from a certain percentage (although slow). When the charge is in the 90's and you unplug and plug it back in it trickle charges to completion. This does indeed work. Works best in my opinion when you do this after you let the battery completely drain, plug in, recovery mode, wipe battery stats and then turn on.
And then do what you stated above.
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So what you're suggesting (re: recovery/battery stats) is the following:
1. use the phone until the battery completely dies.
2. plug the phone in
3. boot into recovery (clockwork ?)
4. wipe battery stats
5. turn the phone on
6. do the 'plug me in' dance after it's fully charged
What if the battery is fully charged and you wipe the battery stats ?
idk i think i used to do something similar on my Hero and even back on my (WinMo) Mogul and Touch Pro and never really got much out of it......
However, today I did this and I swear I'm getting great battery life today. Have never gotten past 12 hours and I'm currently sitting at about 40% left at 12 hours. Could be the placebo effect but we'll see..... even played some angry birds today.
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Took 11 days to get here, but worth EVERY penny. I never need to worry about to battery life anymore. Hell, now that I charge my batteries using the external charger, I get atleast 8-10 hours with constant use, and my battery doesn't drop from 100 right away. I never get to the 3rd battery by the end of the day and thats with a 18 hour day unplugged. Worth it.
I have noticed some weirdness with the battery. I looked at the juiceplotter graph after the battery had been left charging all night, and it would charge to 100 and then over th course of half an hour drop down to 95% or so and then recharge up to 100 over and over and over again. I have taken it off the charger sometimes and the battery has gone from 100% to 96 % within a couple minutes and other times it stays at 100% for over an hour. It was a matter of luck as to when I pulled my phone off I guess, when it was really at 100% or really at 95-97% or anywhere inbetween.
Gonna try this PITA method of charging. Hope it works, but damn is it inconvenient.
The external battery charger is the way to go. i have also noticed when i rarely charge from the phone that it sometimes wont stay at 100 but for a minute then drop to 97. i get 55 hours to one battery with moderate usage.
This didnt really do anything. Unplugged from my charger at 1:50pm, its been exactly 2 hours and its at 77%. Mostly my phone was in my pocket, and I did very light browsing over 3g (maybe 10 minutes).
I'm on Latest Epic Experience with Mixup Kernel. And I don't have OC widget or Setcpu.
omair2005 said:
This didnt really do anything. Unplugged from my charger at 1:50pm, its been exactly 2 hours and its at 77%. Mostly my phone was in my pocket, and I did very light browsing over 3g (maybe 10 minutes).
I'm on Latest Epic Experience with Mixup Kernel. And I don't have OC widget or Setcpu.
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Try running the same setup with phoenix 1.43 kernel. Still super snappy and way better battery then mix up.
I'm also using external charger, 30+hrs with screen on for 6hrs
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Try running the same setup with phoenix 1.43 kernel. Still super snappy and way better battery then mix up.
I'm also using external charger, 30+hrs with screen on for 6hrs
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Is it really that much better? If so, what causes it to be better on battery life? I am getting great battery life using the mixup kernel because I have juicedefender and setcpu working hard to conserve battery life. Would Phoenix make a difference?
Just a FYI, Lithium-Ion batteries don't hold a memory like NiCad batteries did. It is also NOT good to drain them all the way down.
read and follow directions
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tried this, doesnt' seem to work for me. I unplugged, turned phone off, and charged, but phone said fully charged after like 15 minutes, I assume once it says 100% on the green battery that shows up when phone is off that I shouldn't just let it sit there? its not charging at that point anymore is it?
then i unplugged, turned on phone, waited 2 minutes, turned off, charged again, 15 minutes or so it was fully charged again.
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Following the directions exactly. dont think follow directions
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Try running the same setup with phoenix 1.43 kernel. Still super snappy and way better battery then mix up.
I'm also using external charger, 30+hrs with screen on for 6hrs
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Do I have to wipe anything?
I've installed the Yelp, Movies, and Amazon app, nothing else, and I'm losing around 15% an hour with light/normal usage.
I've let the battery run down to 0 and recharged completely, I've turned off gps and wifi, and still get really bad life. I live in the Bay Area and get a solid signal all of the time. There's really no excuse for it.
Please don't tell me to flash to a rom, because that's obviously not fixing the issue. Light browsing and the occasional Google Maps has my phone at <20% by the afternoon.
Battery stats just show android system and screen brightness taking up power. What's the deal?
I also constantly have at least 255 / 328mb in use even with all applications closed.
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The mb usage is normal i noticed this on stock because of Verizon apps that run in background. As far as not using the phone and only getting 6 good hours of use. i would take to the store and ask if they could change out the battery. Hope this helps.
+1 for that, sounds like you have a defective battery.
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Thats about how long my battery gets me.
And if I forget to power down my phone at night, or put it on a charger it is dead by morning no matter how much of a charge it has before I go to bed.
I have an extended battery starring me in the face and can't use it yet since I couldn't find a door and had to have one shipped from Samsung.
Hopefully the extended battery cures my issues.
(I am running Gummy Charged 2.3.3 Beta, currently waiting for the 2.3.4 release)
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Thats about how long my battery gets me.
And if I forget to power down my phone at night, or put it on a charger it is dead by morning no matter how much of a charge it has before I go to bed.
I have an extended battery starring me in the face and can't use it yet since I couldn't find a door and had to have one shipped from Samsung.
Hopefully the extended battery cures my issues.
(I am running Gummy Charged 2.3.3 Beta, currently waiting for the 2.3.4 release)
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I am curious as to what you guys are running. And if you go to bed with your phone on , and its dead by morning I can PROMISE you there is either something going on with your phone, or you are doing something wrong (i.e. you have your phone set to never sleep, your screen is set to maximum brightness, your are leaving your phone in desk cradle mode, etc etc etc.) But it's not the phone. May be a bad battery, but without being at your house and seeing what you are doing, I have no intelligent answer for you.
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I am curious as to what you guys are running. And if you go to bed with your phone on , and its dead by morning I can PROMISE you there is either something going on with your phone, or you are doing something wrong (i.e. you have your phone set to never sleep, your screen is set to maximum brightness, your are leaving your phone in desk cradle mode, etc etc etc.) But it's not the phone. May be a bad battery, but without being at your house and seeing what you are doing, I have no intelligent answer for you.
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charge phone to 100%, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats, then use the phone until you completely drain your battery until it shuts off. Then charge back up completely. This will calibrate your battery. try running a customer rom such as gummy charged or humble to see if you get bettery battery life... thousands of users have reported great battery life with both
I had same crummy battery life. I followed the calibration instructions and i went from about 5-6 hr batt life to ( right now im at almost 11hrs with 66% battery left on wifi with moderate use). Ill test tomorrow on 4g only and see how it does. I would get like 4-5 hrs before.
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danalo1979 said:
charge phone to 100%, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats, then use the phone until you completely drain your battery until it shuts off. Then charge back up completely. This will calibrate your battery. try running a customer rom such as gummy charged or humble to see if you get bettery battery life... thousands of users have reported great battery life with both
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I am running the latest humble and my battery drops really fast. If I go into task manager and clear my RAM, I get better battery. I calibrated per the instructions as well about a week ago or so and saw no improvement. Please note that I have not been scientific about it at all.
Stopping Data obv helps a million and clearing RAM seems to help as well.
EDIT: I am recalibrating in case it was not done properly before. Hopefully it will help. I am hopeful!
I charged my battery to full, booted into clockwork recovery and wiped my battery stats.
When I rebooted my phone it shows a 73% charge?
Abradax said:
I charged my battery to full, booted into clockwork recovery and wiped my battery stats.
When I rebooted my phone it shows a 73% charge?
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If you are on humble 1.x then that means your battery stats were way off. Basically your battery still needs 23% more charge before its full... thus better battery life... because you had a miscalibrated battery, your phone is erroneously reporting a full charge... charge it back to 100% then discharge fully then charge all the back up
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I'm on Gummy Charge GRE, but I assume the same reason?
I exchanged my battery at verizon. So far it seems better. Ive let it drain and am recharging now. I will also try uninstalling g+ if the new batt hasnt solved the problem. I will post back with an update.
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I switched out my battery 2 days ago, and I'm still getting under 6 hours with moderate use.
Has anyone had luck with ROMs drastically improving battery life? I can't imagine it being the phone itself, but I might try exchanging it too.
EDIT: it seems like the new battery charges a bit faster. My old battery would take around a minute for one percentage gain. Can anyone comment on their charge times?
Ok, so I've been experiencing this for the past few weeks now, and I'm getting sick of it. I plug up my phone to charge it overnight, or just to charge it when I know I will be in a place for a while. After a while, the phones battery will say 100%. But when I take the charger out, the battery isn't fully charged. It IMMEDIATELY jumps down to around 40% - 70%. I can get it fully charged after unplugging and replugging the charger in, sometimes numerous times of unplugging and replugging. Also, my battery has died on numerous occasions on between 10% - 15%. I calibrated my battery the first day I got it (as a replacement) and got decent juice from it, a noticeable improvement from the old battery. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Is there a fix for it???
*NOTE* I'm on my 2nd battery (replacement) and this is also a replacement phone. Also running GummyCharged 1.8 GBE on EP1Q, RFS, w/Minimal Gummy theme, if that matters. Also, its not just my phone, my wifes Charge phone has the same setup and it does it also. So it may just be something wrong Gingerbreak. Never did it on FroYo. Gonna Odin back to FroYo and report back.
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This is because you cannot leave the phone plugged in to charge for an extended period of time. Once the battery reaches 100%, it stops charging. It will start charging again later, after the percentage goes down to a certain set level. This is why you have the huge initial drop-off after taking it off the charger. If you want to leave the phone plugged in for an extended period of time, turn it off and plug it in to allow it to charge, then it won't discharge as quickly. Otherwise, this is normal behavior for all android phones, and trying to make it so that the phone stays at 100% full charge is bad for both the battery and phone.
I've been having some strange problems. My phone will die with between 4-8 percent battery left. I can turn it back on and once it drops another percent or two it will turn off again. I have calibrated it and my battery life is good but this is a strange issue. Upgrading to rc2 today.
Droid Charge/Gummy 1.9RC 2.3.4
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Ok, so I've been experiencing this for the past few weeks now, and I'm getting sick of it. I plug up my phone to charge it overnight, or just to charge it when I know I will be in a place for a while. After a while, the phones battery will say 100%. But when I take the charger out, the battery isn't fully charged. Its usually on around 40% - 70%. I can get it fully charged after unplugging and replugging the charger in. Also, my battery has died on numerous occasions on between 10% - 15%. I calibrated my battery the first day I got it (as a replacement) and got decent juice from it, a noticeable improvement from the old battery. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Is there a fix for it???
*NOTE* I'm on my 2nd battery (replacement) and this is also a replacement phone. Also running GummyCharged 1.8 GBE on EP1Q, RFS, w/Minimal Gummy theme, if that matters.
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I have the exact same problem. It will just go from 50% to 100% in a second and then unplug and plug back in to make it work. i haven't been able to figure it out either. 2nd phone and 2nd battery as well with same issue. I guess it has to do with my habits somehow.
imnuts said:
This is because you cannot leave the phone plugged in to charge for an extended period of time. Once the battery reaches 100%, it stops charging. It will start charging again later, after the percentage goes down to a certain set level. This is why you have the huge initial drop-off after taking it off the charger. If you want to leave the phone plugged in for an extended period of time, turn it off and plug it in to allow it to charge, then it won't discharge as quickly. Otherwise, this is normal behavior for all android phones, and trying to make it so that the phone stays at 100% full charge is bad for both the battery and phone.
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I believe the use case he is suggesting is a little different than what you are describing. When the phone is plugged in at say 12%, it charges for a while and gets to say 63%. At that point it jumps to 100% immediately. The phone must then be unplugged from the charger and re-plugged in and then it will continue properly to 100%.
Hopefully that is a little clearer.
I mean, usually I turn it off to charge. And I have that No Moar Powah app installed. So I set it to reboot at 100%, it does and when I take the charger out, it immediately drops to between said percentages. almost like clockwork. Very annoying. I understand what u mean Imnuts, but my Vibrant, HD2, or others never experienced this issue. Also, my first Charge, would keep a charge if I left it on the charger once it hit 100%. Maybe an issue with the charger itself? A Verizon rep told me to bring in the charger itself if the issue persists.
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Almost exactly my issue. I'm not understandings what the problem is. I'm assuming u have that issue also???
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Hmm i have the opposite of that problem every time i unplug my phone from charging overnight the battery meter would always read 100% never below that.
Also does anyone know which battery meter i should follow for battery calibration? The battery meter in the status bar, the battery level in system settings/about phone/status, the battery percentage at the lock screen or the battery meter on the screen when the phones off? They're all giving me different readings for some odd reason.
Sometimes I get that too, but for the most part, its the false readings from the lockscreen, and the about phone settings. I may send off for a new phone, run stock for a few days to calibrate my battery then root on a full charge.
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imnuts said:
This is because you cannot leave the phone plugged in to charge for an extended period of time. Once the battery reaches 100%, it stops charging. It will start charging again later, after the percentage goes down to a certain set level. This is why you have the huge initial drop-off after taking it off the charger. If you want to leave the phone plugged in for an extended period of time, turn it off and plug it in to allow it to charge, then it won't discharge as quickly. Otherwise, this is normal behavior for all android phones, and trying to make it so that the phone stays at 100% full charge is bad for both the battery and phone.
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I see what you're saying, but on the other hand I charge my phone overnight with no problems. Never did this before, but I don't have time to sit around for 6 hours for it to charge
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Well I went back to FroYo GummyCharged v1.9 and lo and behold, the charging issues VANISHED. Charged my phone overnight last night and when I removed the charger, 100%. No drop immediately back down to 56% or some weird number. Maybe its a Gingerbreak leak issue. I've noticed that it only happens to my phone on Gingerbread. Also must mention, my wifes phone does it also. She's on Gingerbread. She complains that I broke her phone lol.
*EDIT* CONFIRMED. 2nd nite in a row, no issues charging.
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imnuts said:
This is because you cannot leave the phone plugged in to charge for an extended period of time. Once the battery reaches 100%, it stops charging. It will start charging again later, after the percentage goes down to a certain set level. This is why you have the huge initial drop-off after taking it off the charger. If you want to leave the phone plugged in for an extended period of time, turn it off and plug it in to allow it to charge, then it won't discharge as quickly. Otherwise, this is normal behavior for all android phones, and trying to make it so that the phone stays at 100% full charge is bad for both the battery and phone.
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Imnuts...ill have to disagree with you. This is the only android phone I've had this problem on, and I've had 6 different android phones. also, it only started happening for me when i went to Gingerbread. Going to flash back to Froyo and i will update.
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Same here with me. It only started when I went to Gingerbread. Also happened on my wifes phone, also on GB. I went back to FroYo 2 days ago, and boom, no more charging issues. I can leave it on all nite and not get the random percentage drops. I gotta calibrate my battery now.
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Flashed back to Froyo and charged overnight, unplugged an hour ago and now I'm sitting at 96%.
Gingerbread be buggin' yo.
scriz said:
Flashed back to Froyo and charged overnight, unplugged an hour ago and now I'm sitting at 96%.
Gingerbread be buggin' yo.
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So it was a Gingerbread bug (GingerBug???) right? My battery life seems way better also. 6+ hrs off the charger and I am sitting on 73%. Not bad for me.
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The mis-information in this thread regarding Li-ion batteries is getting out of hand.
I think many of us are thinking about ni-cad batteries in which all the "bad" things we are talking about in this thread apply.
for a Li-Ion Battery, there is no "memory" effect. this means you can charge it at any point during the discharge phase. You also do not need to allow the battery to drain fully and charge to full to "condition" the battery. Li-Ion batteries can be charged at any point up to any point (from 30% to 70%, then 50% to 90%) and it will not effect the batteries performance.
Li-Batteries also do not suffer from overcharging. The charging circuits in cell phones will charge the battery until it is full, and then trickle charge from then on. And because Li-ion batteries do not have memories, this type of charging will not effect performance.
Li-Ion batteries can only be charged a finite number of times. However, the number of times does not translate to the number of times you happen to plug it in. The batteries have a rated number of "charge cycles", this is when the power from the battery has been exhausted and then re-filled. If you always charge your battery at 50% - 100% then every 2 charges you are using 1 full charge cycle. The batteries in the charge are 1600mAh and have approx 500 charge cycles. if you discharged and charged your phone from 0 to 100% every day, your battery would last 500 days before it would start to suffer from poor performance.
the OP in this thread is having software related issues related to the phone mis-representing the correct charge level of the battery, and then stopping the charge cycle prematurely.
Remember, it is perfectly OK, and expected of you to charge your battery as many times as you need to. Keep the thing on the charger any chance you get, it is not going to hurt it, its designed to be used that way. This is why Li-Ion took over as the battery tech of choice compared to Ni-cad.
References:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery (not a definitive reference, just a starting point for people interested)
http://www.geek.com/smartphone-buyers-guide/battery/ (A Few good sentences in this about the topic
http://www.apple.com/batteries/ipods.html (Another good source, Ipod also uses li-ion batteries - as do almost all consumer electronics)
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msticlaru said:
The mis-information in this thread regarding Li-ion batteries is getting out of hand.
I think many of us are thinking about ni-cad batteries in which all the "bad" things we are talking about in this thread apply.
for a Li-Ion Battery, there is no "memory" effect. this means you can charge it at any point during the discharge phase. You also do not need to allow the battery to drain fully and charge to full to "condition" the battery. Li-Ion batteries can be charged at any point up to any point (from 30% to 70%, then 50% to 90%) and it will not effect the batteries performance.
Li-Batteries also do not suffer from overcharging. The charging circuits in cell phones will charge the battery until it is full, and then trickle charge from then on. And because Li-ion batteries do not have memories, this type of charging will not effect performance.
Li-Ion batteries can only be charged a finite number of times. However, the number of times does not translate to the number of times you happen to plug it in. The batteries have a rated number of "charge cycles", this is when the power from the battery has been exhausted and then re-filled. If you always charge your battery at 50% - 100% then every 2 charges you are using 1 full charge cycle. The batteries in the charge are 1600mAh and have approx 500 charge cycles. if you discharged and charged your phone from 0 to 100% every day, your battery would last 500 days before it would start to suffer from poor performance.
the OP in this thread is having software related issues related to the phone mis-representing the correct charge level of the battery, and then stopping the charge cycle prematurely.
Remember, it is perfectly OK, and expected of you to charge your battery as many times as you need to. Keep the thing on the charger any chance you get, it is not going to hurt it, its designed to be used that way. This is why Li-Ion took over as the battery tech of choice compared to Ni-cad.
References:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery (not a definitive reference, just a starting point for people interested)
http://www.geek.com/smartphone-buyers-guide/battery/ (A Few good sentences in this about the topic
http://www.apple.com/batteries/ipods.html (Another good source, Ipod also uses li-ion batteries - as do almost all consumer electronics)
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UC Davis, California
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This coming from a person WHO KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT is very beneficial to us. Knowing that there is no way to actually "condition" a Li-Ion battery means that us who are actually suffer from poor battery life either have defective units or defective batteries. I hear of this miraculous 2 day battery life, yet I struggle to get thru a full 7 or 8 hrs with moderate usage. And this is a replacement unit AND battery. None of my other phones had that issue of immediately droping percentages like that, so I figured it was a software issue, that's why I went back to FroYo to test it out. Seems I was right. Gingerbread has a software issue that keeps the battery on some phones from reaching a full charge. Also my phone would be boiling hot during the charging process. Since reverting back, I've had no issues. Thanks for the insight. Coning from a knowledgeable source, it means a lot. Thanks!!!
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I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
Use spare parts app and find out battery stats on partial wake clock usage and sensors usage
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What I would do if I were you is charge to 100%, recalibrate, and take the battery out for about 15 minutes before you put it back in and turn your phone on. I dunno.why this procedure worked for me but that's just a suggestion if you don't wanna flash to stock and back to whatever you're using.
Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
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I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
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I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
That is really odd but mine has started doing the exact same thing. I have never had battery issues and for the first time today my phone was completely dead within 6 hours, and the past week it seems to hardly make it 12 hours.
I was just assuming it was the launcher I was using but I removed it and it never helped whatsoever.
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Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
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I would agree with you on that but... I really have no idea what all got updated and don't know how to find out. the perils of auto-update I suppose.
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I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
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I'll give that a try... it made it through last night in pretty good shape though. Confused I am.
Not sure if this helps or not, but here is my experience.
I have two wireless routers in my house. One I keep locked to N-only and the other to G-Only. The N router I have suspected for some time has a weak or flaky radio because I can watch the signal strength fluctuate wildly over a period of 10 seconds or so. I noticed a while back that when my phone is connected to the N router it will kill itself pretty much overnight. When I disable that connection and let it connect to the G router it only loses a couple % over an 8 hour period.
I don't know if it is due to being connected to N, or if my suspected flaky router is causing it to use more power staying locked onto the signal or something of that sort.
I posted this in another forum and the response I got was somewhat weak. Instead of re typing everything I will cut and paste my posts and hopefully you guys can guide me in the right direction!
Here was post 1 -->
I just bought a Rooted Nexus S from ebay. It is running this ROM Nexus S ICS 4.0.4 stock OTA ROM (IMM76D)
Now, I know nothing about android, I'm coming off a series of old turd phones because i'm always breaking them. I'll probably break this one too, but hopefully not for a while.
When I got the phone I put the battery in and turned it on, then charged it overnight. It will only charge to 54% and stay there. I talked to the seller he said it charged normally for him. He said he did a complete wipe and USB wipe before he shipped it.
The battery seems to drain normally (I guess, I have nothing to really compare it to) from 54% but it would be nice to have it charge to the 90% -ish range haha. I allowed the battery to drain to 40% and put it back on charge, it been on charge for almost an hour and will only charge to 41%? Do you guys have any ideas what I can do to fix this? Is this a sign it needs a new battery, or a software glitch? The seller said the battery shouldn't need replacing.
Also in the battery app under setting, Android System is using 28% is that a lot?
My last question is an important one to me haha. Is there anyway to convert the querty keyboard to a T9? I 've gotten used to texting with one hand and T9 makes it so much easier to do so.
Thanks everybody!
Someone recommended I try the battery calibration app So I did!
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Ok, I ran the Battery Calibration app. I let my phone charge for hours. It would only charge up to 38% this time. However, the percentage was 38% but it was charged to 3810 mV (and would not charge past this point). And full charge is approximately 4200 mV according to the Battery Calibration app. So I assumed that 3810 mV was my current battery's max charge (keep in mind it is a couple months old) and set battery calibration at that point.
This is from the app description --> It's suggested, but not necessary, to let the phone fully discharge after calibration, then charged to 100% without break.
So thats what I'll do. I should mention that even though I ran the battery calibration, the battery percentage has been draining from 38%. In other words, my phone now reads 26% battery charge, but is at 3758 mV.
I'm thinking that when I go to charge it after fully draining the battery, it will hopefully charge close to 100%. It seems as though the percentage is the only thing that is off. Because the mV reading seems accurate.
Here is a screenshot, what do you guys think?
This site won't let me post the screen shot until 8 posts, but I will do that once I get there!
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The app says to let the phone fully discharge after calibration. I am now at 15%, but mV is at 3658. Should I recharge when the percentage has dropped lower, or when the mV reaches a low point? Are these phones really this finicky. I'm starting to miss my old 2007 flip phone haha
It's now at 14% and now asking for me to plug it in to charge lol but mV is still way high (3655)
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update, charge % reached 0 and the phone shut down. Now charging, Current charge is at 0%, 3595 mV. No one has any idea whats up?
Shouldn't mV be near 0 when charge is at 0%, and be near 4000mV when charge is near 100%?
hopefully you guys can help me fix this issue. Otherwise it'll have to go back to 'ol reliable, the 2007, multiple cracked screen, nokia slider lol It's not pretty, but it works!
There is a built in safety feature in our batteries to prevent deep discharges. IIRC, the safe cutoff point is around maybe 34xx mV. I could be off, but its to prevent damage to the battery. Here's more on them
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery
As for voltages, a full battery should be around 4100mV. Mine tops out around 4196. I'm not too familiar with all of it though. Most of the stuff I learn is through observation and links others provide.
Thanks for the reply! So are you saying that when the voltage is around 34xx the battery charge % should be close to or around 0%. And when the voltage is near the 4000mV range the charge %tage should be approximately 9x%
Do I have the right idea here?
Its hard to say while its charging. My phone is at 4000mv around 70% so I don't really know exactly how it works. But a full battery should read around the voltages I posted. There's people on here who know more about it, so hopefully they'll chime in.
But yes. When its close to zero, it should be around that range. It will differ from battery to battery.
Ah k thanks! My original problem was that the phone would only charge to 54% and would not go past that point. I'm waiting to see if it will get into the 90 ish % range after running the battery calibration now.
The app itself doesn't actually do anything. The stats will get reset once the charge reaches 90% My girlfriend's phone was the same way. It wouldn't charge past 75%. I let the phone run dead and charged it while it was off and it fixed the problem. If it doesn't go to 90%, try charging while off and just letting it run until it gives the warning to charge, turn it off and let it charge overnight .
Ok. Well I let the phone run dead earlier today as I mentioned in one of the above posts. But I didn't charge it with the phone off. I put it on charge with the phone on, and now it won't charge past 11%
It just seems to be getting worse and worse? It's been going between 10% and 11% and has been at 11% for about 2 hours now. Maybe this time I will drain it again and try charging it with the phone off like you suggested.
This is slightly annoying
All else fails grab another battery. They're dirt cheap on eBay. Just get one from a reputable seller
Ok, so I let the battery drain. then fully charged it with the phone off. When I turned it on, it had 47% charge.
The guy I bought it from said that before I buy a battery I should download an app called rom manager and download a new rom. he thinks its a software bug because he had no problems with the battery when he was running cyanogen mod 9 on it.
I wouldn't mind giving trying this, except I don't even know what a rom is. Is it operating system? I like the way the phone works now, If only I could get it to charge fully.
Thoughts?
Ok, I just did a bunch of reading and downloaded ROM manager premium. Hopefully I get this figured out. Owning one of these phones is a lot of work
lts pretty much a pocket computer. Coming from an older type of phone, a lot of things are going to be different. Gotta start somewhere. Reading up on it and toying around with the phone will help in the long run. Trust me.
or not....
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or not....
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Haha, pretty much. I'm slowly starting to learn more. I didn't think there was this much of a learning curve, thats what took me by surprise thats all. I'm a fast learner so I'm not too worried. I didn't have time to play around on it tonight, maybe on the weekend. I found out I could use it without the sim card which is awesome! Because now I can use old faithful while I learn more about android.
Thanks for the help so far though, I'm sure I'll have more questions soon haha
Haha. Yep. You can have tons of fun just using it over wifi!
Do keep in mind, fully dishcharging a lithium ion (li-ion) battery deteriorates the battery even more. We only discharge because older phones use nickel cadmium batteries which need more maintenance to get to their maximum life span and use.
Off topic though.
Battery calibration just wipes your battery stats. You can do this by going into any recovery program eg clockworkmod receovery or team win recovery project. You can wipe the battery stats yourself. If that still doesnt work. Try doing a clean install of your custom rom or kernel. If your not on a custom rom or kernel. Nor your rooted. Try formating the SD card in the Nexus S (or fully wiping the sd card). Than do a factory reset.
Ok, so I finally had some time to learn to flash etc. After backing up, I downloaded and flashed the same rom from SD, I cleared davlik cache and also selected the wipe data and cache option from ROM Manager (I assume that this is what is called a clean install?)
This is the ROM I am using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653713 Slightly customized stock ROM, rooted.
After start up I waited a while and then plugged it into the charger, it only charges to 54% still. Sometimes it creeps up. One thing I noticed is that if I use the phone while it is charging, it actually drains the battery. So it will go from 54% to 52% and slowly drain. Is this an indication of a pooched battery?
Any suggestions? I will order a battery. Where do you guys order your batterries, I read that the oem samsung 1500 is reliable.