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25 min cost 27% battery

I unplugged the phone and got onto the bus. I read news with Captivate. Nothing fancy, just NY Times, Fox News etc. I got off the bus later, I only have 73% battery.
Yes, I just started my day and it's only 70% of battery.
#FAIL.

There are a few simple things you can do to increase battery life. Turn the screen brightness down and use a solid black background as a wallpaper. The screen uses the majority of the batter. so dimming the screen helps, when using a black background the amoled display does not light up black pixels so there is power drain.
I've been running on the same charge since 4pm yesterday. I've streamed music through pandora for about an hour while exercising, browsed the xda forums using the XDA App for 30 mins, made a few calls, browsed Facebook for 30 mins, surfed the web for a couple of hours before bed. Its now 10AM and I'm sitting at 36%. Not to bad really! The phone functions exactly the same at 36% as compared to 100%.

I wonder why everyone says to use a solid black background? Do most people use their phones primarily by staring at the home screen? I'm never at my home screen more than perhaps five seconds while switching apps
I've had pretty poor battery life as well, even after discharging, recharging, and deleting batterystats.bin. There are small tips here and there, like black background and screen brightness, but even following them all, my phone lasts me barely ten hours, and most of that time it's idle. For instance, I listened to local must (no streaming) with the screen off for about an hour and lost 10% of my battery life. What's up with that?

TimF said:
I've streamed music through pandora for about an hour while exercising, browsed the xda forums using the XDA App for 30 mins, made a few calls, browsed Facebook for 30 mins, surfed the web for a couple of hours before bed. Its now 10AM and I'm sitting at 36%.
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I am also shocked and confused by how people can use their phone so heavily.
I already killed those unnecessary processes (e.g., all AT&T crap). I have a static wallpaper. I have screen brightness at 60%. And all I have been doing is just reading news and surfing the web. It literally cost me 1% of battery for every 1 min of use. It's just ridiculous.

You are probably on your home screen a lot more than you realize.
Anyway it's a smartphone, they all eat through battery time. you will never get superb battery life unless you crowbar a 3000mah battery into your device.
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set the screen on its lowest brightness setting, the only time I've had to increase the brightness is when I am outside in the sun.
if you are on a bus, if you are not using wifi, turn off the radio.

TimF said:
Anyway it's a smartphone, they all eat through battery time. you will never get superb battery life unless you crowbar a 3000mah battery into your device.
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You just said your phone is at 36% eighteen hours after charging! Compared to the 0% I'm at ten hours after charging...I'm not looking for superb battery life at all, just somewhat decent. I'm actually bringing a backup feature phone with me to college this semester in case I can't resolve this issue, because I will need to use my phone both in the morning and at night some days

TimF said:
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set the screen on its lowest brightness setting, the only time I've had to increase the brightness is when I am outside in the sun.
if you are on a bus, if you are not using wifi, turn off the radio.
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I have Wifi, BT always off. And I don't listen to Pandora.
I think the key is you have the lowest brightness on your phone. It is going to save you a lot of battery 'cause half of the battery is for the screen.
But I just couldn't stand it. I wish I can set to 100% all the time. It looks so much better.

The phone radio is a huge consumer of battery - especially in weak signal areas. The bars are not that accurate either. that coupled with 3rd party apps that don't always behave nice, can equal rapid battery drain.
Putting the plain in Airplane mode is good way to see what battery life is like without the Cell radio always doing its thing. It is not a fix, but it can show that the battery/phone are not broken. There probably can be improvements and tweaks made by samsung, but I don't think the phones are defective.

mwxiao said:
I think the key is you have the lowest brightness on your phone. It is going to save you a lot of battery 'cause half of the battery is for the screen.
But I just couldn't stand it. I wish I can set to 100% all the time. It looks so much better.
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This is what you would call a trade-off I like the bright screen also but I like having longer battery life more.
The screen is still pretty bright on it lowest setting and you gt used to the lower brightness after a while.
magicdanw said:
You just said your phone is at 36% eighteen hours after charging! Compared to the 0% I'm at ten hours after charging...I'm not looking for superb battery life at all, just somewhat decent. I'm actually bringing a backup feature phone with me to college this semester in case I can't resolve this issue, because I will need to use my phone both in the morning and at night some days
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how are you using your phone? What apps are you running, are you using any emulators.

There's an app called Spare Parts, which will show you what is using your battery when the screen is off. Open it up and choose "Partial Wake Usage" from the drop down to see.
My Captivate appeared to drain battery very quickly, but with moderate to decent usage throughout a day I was trying to kill the battery it lasted me over 13 hours. I think it's a matter of the battery reporting taking a good while to calibrate properly.

I've had an issue twice now with absurd battery usage. Both times I charged the phone to full and disconnected it; after doing that the phone would lose 10% charge every hour sitting completely idle! Using the phone during that time drained it even faster. Both times powering the phone completely off and back on resolved the issue.
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magicdanw said:
I wonder why everyone says to use a solid black background? Do most people use their phones primarily by staring at the home screen? I'm never at my home screen more than perhaps five seconds while switching apps
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In AMOLED, black pixels dont use power. This is different from LCD where even black pixels still use power.

Have you guys tried fully charging, then fully discharing then repeating this step 3 more times? It helps with the battery life tremendously.

You gotta do a factory reset. Many people as well as myself had the same issue. For me, a side effect was also that the att start up swoosh was stupidly loud.
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I only did the discharge thing once, last week, and today I am going on a 21 hours with 28% left.

2g app
I was told there is a 2g / 3g application. Has anyone tried this? Apparently it puts the phone in 2g when no data connection is needed and then updates to 3g when a data process is required...

i'm on day two of not charging mine... and i'm at 25%...
i unplugged it from a full charge yesterday (monday) morning before i left for work and today (29 hours later) i'm at 25%... this is with advanced task killer auto killing tasks when screen is off as well as being aggressive about it. i've been listening to music from my sd card, browsing facebook and taking some pictures (and uploading them to fb). i guess i'm either super lucky not to have any problems with GPS or the battery, or i'm a very light user.

I dunno what happened to the main battery thread?
I just got a new phone two days ago because of the restart issue. This one has the same battery issue. Drains 2-4%/hour just being idle. I have nothing beyond launcher pro and google voice installed. Everything is on lockdown in terms of batt usage. The only thing I haven't done is turn off the cell antenna.
I've tried the tricks I knew: factory reset, calibration trick. These didn't help at all. My last phone just needed a factory reset and it was all good. Now I'm sad again :-( will it just improve itself when the phone "learns" the battery or something? I wish I could teach it

Several things you can do.
1) Use WiFi if you can use it, it uses less power. If you don't have somewhere to use WiFi, leave it off.
2) Same goes for BT- leave it off if possible.
3) Use this to get rooted and remove all the ATT crap that sucks battery life. Applying the lag fix also means you spend less time with the screen on, so that can also help you out.
4) Use Auto Brightness
5) Disabling haptic feedback and the tapping sounds (I find it more annoying regardless)
6) Use a static black wallpaper- or something really dark. IMO it looks great black and plus the AMOLED... Black doesn't use power.
7) Use Advanced Task Killer. I have mine on Aggressive and Moderate security every half hour. This will make sure hung apps, etc get killed and apps you haven't ran. Make sure you whitelist the apps that run your widgets and such though.
That's the best things to do to.
Edit- above all, remember this is a SMART phone, not a feature phone like the iPhone is. The simple fact this full blown SMART phone can even begin to rival just a feature phone like the iPhone speaks volumes to how much more efficient it is than what you think it is.

starwolf256 said:
I've had an issue twice now with absurd battery usage. Both times I charged the phone to full and disconnected it; after doing that the phone would lose 10% charge every hour sitting completely idle! Using the phone during that time drained it even faster. Both times powering the phone completely off and back on resolved the issue.
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I too have had issues with battery life but quickly realized what had been causing the issues, twice it had been snesoid not closing down all the way after use, and this combined with an app that was hurting battery life (word feud), I realized what my problem was.
I leave the brightness jacked all the way down. I believe the lowest it goes on the stock rom is like 15%, but there are ways to go lower than that.
I've not used my phone much the past two days since charging it, and i'm currently down to 35%, but most of my battery use is cell standby, with display being 3rd or so on the list.
You can always use a program like tasker to make the phone go into airport mode between certain hours of the day (IE: while you're sleeping) to help conserve the battery life.
There are also tons of other good tips in this thread.
And trust me, the phone can last; i've managed 3days on one charge

Tips to GREAT Battery Life!

Here are the settings I'm running on CM7 to get amazingly bananas battery life (with the display being on for about 5 hours!)..
1. Conservative governor: 245mhz - 1017mhz in CM7 settings
2. Install the 'BatteryCalibration' app from the market. This app caused the single biggest improvement for me after having flashed so many roms and never calibrating the battery. If you've calibrated it before though, I don't think it'll be very useful for you.
3. Install 'NoBars' from the market to automatically turn on airplane mode when you have no service. (This might be useless to some of you if you always have a signal; Very useful in NYC subway though)
4. Use a 2G toggle widget to have the phone only use the Edge connection when you only need it to receive calls/ texts and don't need the high speeds. I use the toggle widget in the CM7 notification bar. HUGE battery saver.
Give these a shot and let us know how they work for you

I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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Aspeds2989 said:
As you can see by my display being on over 3 hours, I used my phone a heck of a lot today and still have over a third of my battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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Question: It's cool that your display was on for 3 hours, but what did you do as far as app usage??
If you did use your phone "a heck of a lot" wouldn't some apps like "internet" "maps" or something show up on the battery use %'s???
For example, currently, other than phone idle, cell standby, voice calls and android, there's also internet, mail, maps, and other apps that I used today alot.

Good observation. I have no idea how android chooses which apps to show on there, but I think it depends on the ROM? I remember on Iced Glacier cell standby would barely use 5% of the battery and on CM7 it uses >40% consistently. Idk.
Maybe what those apps used up here was nothing compared to the display, wifi and phone idle time.. Just a guess.. But I did use the browser and xda app and listened to music via the Rdio app running in the background several times throughout the day, and sent multiple texts and have had my wifi on for about 5 hours now. I can't really find a menu that would show these statistics except in the Spare Parts app, and here you go..

I got 17 hours just yesterday with 9% left with moderate to heavy use (texting, web browsing and ps1 emulation).
I didn't do anything besides use faux's kernel with the smartass govenor. I have the max speed overclocked to 1.8 as well...

Nice. I just got over flashing new kernels for a while since the stock CM7 one has everything functioning perfectly and new kernels would improve on something but mess up something else in my experience.

I can't seem to find a 2g toggle widget that works with Royal Glacier. (one touch, I've found a few that take you to settings) When I was running Royal Ginger I would always use the one that came in the notification bar.

Wifi status is also a good app to remind the forgetful to turn off wifi when they leave the Area.

Aspeds2989 said:
I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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This is GREAT battery life... i wonder what word i'd use to describe mine.
i Pulled my Phone off the Charger this morning @ 7:20pm EST. Now it is 3:13 EST. and i've got ~50% left. So thats what like. 7 hours

neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.

Aspeds2989 said:
neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.
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since my last boot. 8:10AM when i loaded the new CM7. 1h 1m 59s.

Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-Battery-Charger-HTC-Mytouch-4G-Merge-/290556738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.

Maybe. All I know is my battery increased dramatically after running that app once.
I measure battery life by how many hours I am able to keep my display on before it dies rather than how long after it comes off the charger (like nedilinger does). My battery used to die after about 3 hours of the display being on. Now it consistently lasts 5 hours.
Anyway, I was just trying to let others know what I did to get a really good battery life on my phone thinking it might be helpful. Apparently that's not appreciated. Thanks tho.

sundayhustler said:
Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.
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How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.

erickdj said:
simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.
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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?

iambryantho said:
does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?
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Better than what's reported under CM7. The battery life I posted above was on RG.

you say you don't sacrifice 4g but you admit you have a 2g/edge widget?
To me "not sacrificing 4g" means not ever turning it off, maybe i'm mistaken
I had battery issues, I'd have to charge it mid day else it would die. Juicedefender helped a bit (claimed to do 1.7x battery life) but I uninstalled it, rooted the phone, and uninstalled a bunch of stock apps
For some reason now my battery lasts a very very long time, don't know how or why that is. I also admit I don't use it as heavily as some people, but my habits have not changed and I did have to charge it mid day (like i said) even with little usage

rosebud1 said:
How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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Obviously, it's hard to say without describing how I use my phone, but I get probably 10-15 hours of medium-high usage. I probably get about 4-5 hours of talk time. I'd say the Chinese ebay batteries probably last 80-90% as long as the OEM battery. Quite decent considering the price.

My earlier thoughts about the BatteryCalibration app could be wrong. I don't really know all the details about how Android battery calibration works. I just assumed that it simply learns about all the bad spots in your battery so that your phone doesn't instantly jump from 80% to 30%. I also assumed that the phone would die when the battery had no power left, as opposed to when it says 0%, but maybe that's not the case. Regardless, if it helps you, more power to you and I appreciate you sharing the app. I didn't mean to come off as an unappreciative ****. If I did, sorry bout that.

DROID CHARGE Battery Life is Terrible

So i got the charge a couple of weeks ago. I had the thunderbolt before it but then i switched it out for the charge just because the thunderbolt was kinda heavy. Now i have terrible battery life. I am on stock rooted EE4 and have tried everything short of throwing the phone at the wall. I have 2-3 bars of 4g signal usually (metro detroit). I have tried AC Altered beast, tried gummycharged, tested my own rom, used kangfucius, PB&J Time, and VOODOO, all to no avail. I leave at 7 am and come back home at 3 pm and the battery will be down to its last 5 percent, running on fumes. I even turn off mobile data or i put it on airplane mode and that doesnt even seem to help. MY THUNDERBOLT GOT A WHOLE DAY EASILY WITH IMOSEYONS KERNEL ON 4G but the charge with supposedly better battery life is worse?!?!?! Any advice?

Let it go through a few Charge cycles (heh heh). I went about 12+ hours or so with fairly heavy usage yesterday. Always on: 4G, Bluetooth, GPS. Running: EE4 debloated, PBJT kernel, Voodoo enabled, automatic brightness, 2min screen timeout, 2 GMails, facebook, 2 emails, NoLED, etc. I even tested the mobile hotspot to dl a few big things (free PSN goodies FTW).
That should give you a good idea what's using up my battery. YMMV.

Mine is new and I think it also needs a few charge cycles, getting better but my thunderbolt was terrible for a month before I pushed 10hrs consecutively
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You're doing it wrong...
Without any info about what you have setup on your phone, no one can really give you much of any useful advice.

rami98 said:
So i got the charge a couple of weeks ago. I had the thunderbolt before it but then i switched it out for the charge just because the thunderbolt was kinda heavy. Now i have terrible battery life. I am on stock rooted EE4 and have tried everything short of throwing the phone at the wall. I have 2-3 bars of 4g signal usually (metro detroit). I have tried AC Altered beast, tried gummycharged, tested my own rom, used kangfucius, PB&J Time, and VOODOO, all to no avail. I leave at 7 am and come back home at 3 pm and the battery will be down to its last 5 percent, running on fumes. I even turn off mobile data or i put it on airplane mode and that doesnt even seem to help. MY THUNDERBOLT GOT A WHOLE DAY EASILY WITH IMOSEYONS KERNEL ON 4G but the charge with supposedly better battery life is worse?!?!?! Any advice?
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That was my impression as well.
I think the "great" battery life is only on Samsung's slow stock ROM. I feel totally duped that I bought this phone for great battery life when its no better than the TB.
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Let it go through a few Charge cycles (heh heh). I went about 12+ hours or so with fairly heavy usage yesterday. Always on: 4G, Bluetooth, GPS. Running: EE4 debloated, PBJT kernel, Voodoo enabled, automatic brightness, 2min screen timeout, 2 GMails, facebook, 2 emails, NoLED, etc. I even tested the mobile hotspot to dl a few big things (free PSN goodies FTW).
That should give you a good idea what's using up my battery. YMMV.
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He's had the phone for several weeks! My guess is that he's been through many a charge cycle!

I have had my stock ee4 RUNNING with wifi, gps, and interminentant 4g for twelve or thirteen hrs now and just got my battery warning. I have been reading forums all morning, and made several phone calls. The battery seems very good. I think you should check your bat. use its probably mostly screen use. I think that is everyones highest usage
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My charge easily gets 3hrs MORE than my tbolt.

chromiumcloud said:
He's had the phone for several weeks! My guess is that he's been through many a charge cycle!
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You assume he's let the phone die, turned off the phone, let it power all the way to full and then repeated this 2 - 3 times.
which is an asinine assumption seeing as most people don't let their phone die before charging and don't turn it off while charging - my guess the number of full cycles its been through is 0.

Given that he's tried 3 ROMs and 3 kernels, that gives 9 different possibilities. Using each for 2 days, which isn't really enough time to fully judge battery life, that gets us to 18 days, nearly 3 weeks. I'd say you have to have your phone with a ROM/Kernel combo for 3 days before you can get a sense of normal usage/battery life as the first two days, you'll still be setting stuff up the way you want and tinkering with it. The 3rd/4th/5th days is when you get a true sense of battery usage as by then, you should have most stuff setup the way you want it and your normal usage should be more consistent.

I haven't run out of battery yet but the longest I have kept it off the charger is 15 hours. I leave the radio on and get 4g mostly, stock EE4. I use my charge to listen to music and make a few calls/texts during the day. Screen seems to be the biggest drainer, nothing else comes close.

Not seeing bad battery life on my charge.... Running gummy 1.5 + pbj time kernel + voodoo lag fix + voodoo system fix... heavy use im getting about 18 hours on one charge
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Battery sucks on both the Thunderbolt and the Charge. I'd forgotten how bad the Thunderbolt was until I switched back from the extended battery to the stock.
Any comparison of battery life must include a thorough discussion of how you use the phone. What apps and services are running in the background and ideally some screen cap of the battery use screen. Without that kind of reference your definition of light, moderate, or heavy use is meaningless.
I think both phones have similar performance, it's the price we pay for that 4G lightning bolt.
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chromiumcloud said:
That was my impression as well.
I think the "great" battery life is only on Samsung's slow stock ROM. I feel totally duped that I bought this phone for great battery life when its no better than the TB.
He's had the phone for several weeks! My guess is that he's been through many a charge cycle!
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yep every day iv'e charged it so it's gone through at least 20 cycles.
And i'm running stock EE4 and PBJ kernel (not the overclock one) with lagfix not enabled but it's the voodoo version. Does voodoo save battery?

oh and i have a few apps running in the background like google voice and fb but thats about it. I dont have skype or any of that just fb and google voice. the rest of my apps are mainly games and stuff like pulse that doesnt run in the background. my display is on about 20-25 percent. some days i put it on airplane mode sometimes on mobile data off but even then, the battery is either close to dead or has about 30% left. Keep in mind thats only 7 hours no use at all and that only leaves me with about 2 or 3 hours of actually usage. and the only thing that i do then is browse the web. maybe a 1 minute voice call but that is it.

try going into your settings..accounts and sync....and turning off the auto sync option and then turn off all the accounts you have syncing..I see no reason why google has to constantly sync my contacts when there not changed and use my battery up..you can always do a manual sync and turning the auto sync off hasnt affected my FB updating.
Also on any kind of social updating widget or new ticker you can adjust how often it updates itself too. Again unless your just dying to have it updated all the time then expect the battery to drain faster when it updates. Also when I am not using my phone I turn the data, GPS, and wifi all off. I have been happy with my battery performance and Im running just like urs with rooted PB & J kernel but EE4 stock..I have lagfix enabled though

rami98 said:
oh and i have a few apps running in the background like google voice and fb but thats about it. I dont have skype or any of that just fb and google voice. the rest of my apps are mainly games and stuff like pulse that doesnt run in the background. my display is on about 20-25 percent. some days i put it on airplane mode sometimes on mobile data off but even then, the battery is either close to dead or has about 30% left. Keep in mind thats only 7 hours no use at all and that only leaves me with about 2 or 3 hours of actually usage. and the only thing that i do then is browse the web. maybe a 1 minute voice call but that is it.
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If your getting 9-10 hours then that's not bad... and is significantly more than the TB.
chiahead52 said:
try going into your settings..accounts and sync....and turning off the auto sync option and then turn off all the accounts you have syncing..I see no reason why google has to constantly sync my contacts when there not changed and use my battery up..you can always do a manual sync and turning the auto sync off hasnt affected my FB updating.
Also on any kind of social updating widget or new ticker you can adjust how often it updates itself too. Again unless your just dying to have it updated all the time then expect the battery to drain faster when it updates. Also when I am not using my phone I turn the data, GPS, and wifi all off. I have been happy with my battery performance and Im running just like urs with rooted PB & J kernel but EE4 stock..I have lagfix enabled though
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I agree with the wifi and GPS off, but the data off? The phone is a smart phone and should be able to handle data all the time. Else, why not recommend an iPod touch and a moto razer LOL

chromiumcloud said:
I agree with the wifi and GPS off, but the data off? The phone is a smart phone and should be able to handle data all the time. Else, why not recommend an iPod touch and a moto razer LOL
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Yeah, I never get the turn off your data and everything that makes a smart phone smart approach, but to each his own. Just depends on your priorities.
As a 100% exclusive google voice user (for calls, texts, voicemail) I have to leave data on, or I don't get my SMS and voicemails. I don't want to have to manually check for emails either.
Things like twitter, facebook, etc are all optional for me, so I make them either manual or long intervals on the checks for new posts.
Words With Friends is an absolute battery whore. It defaults (at least it used to) looking for updates to your games EVERY FIVE MINUTES...that's insane, and all you have to do is watch the darn thing try to update games to see how much radio it's wasting, takes forever. Turn it off. LOL

I get all my texts and what not with the data turned off....and when I go to use the phone for anything I turn it back on and use it for whatever...I dont need the instant gratification of getting the email the second it is sent. I guess some people need that feature. Once the syncing is not running all the time from your various apps, then leaving the data on shouldnt drain much battery at all. I am still quite a newbie at this stuff so if I say something stupid please excuse me

chiahead52 said:
I get all my texts and what not with the data turned off....and when I go to use the phone for anything I turn it back on and use it for whatever...I dont need the instant gratification of getting the email the second it is sent. I guess some people need that feature. Once the syncing is not running all the time from your various apps, then leaving the data on shouldnt drain much battery at all. I am still quite a newbie at this stuff so if I say something stupid please excuse me
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Oh, no, nothing stupid at all, that's why I said "to each his own" and "just depends on your priorities." We all use our phones differently. Do what works best for you.
IF your texts are via Verizon SMS, that stuff comes in over the voice channel, not data, so it's not impacted by turning off data. Google voice comes in over the data connection, so no data means no texts! If you're in a wifi area, you could turn off mobile data and you'd still get GV stuff, but no need to since wifi will take precedence over the mobile (cellular) data anyways.

rami98 said:
yep every day iv'e charged it so it's gone through at least 20 cycles.
And i'm running stock EE4 and PBJ kernel (not the overclock one) with lagfix not enabled but it's the voodoo version. Does voodoo save battery?
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No, voodoo doesn't save battery in itself, but some of the other changes in that kernel increase battery life.
i still think you need to swap that phone out. You're working too hard to get decent battery life, and shouldn't have to.

Extreme measures for better battery life

I finally decided I would take some extreme measures to aide the BL of my Androids. I have an HTC Inspire and HTC HD2 with Nexus S Android. The HD2 isn't all that bad...much better BL than the Inspire, but I wanted to apply this measure to both phones. Will it help? Only time will tell.
I started by removing all screen widgets. Then I sorted the screen icons so that a minimum of homescreens were needed...got it down to 2 homescreens. Then I deleted all widgets without apps not able to be opened through an icon. Then I went into Applications manager and cleared and stopped all non-used apps and services. I also deleted all duplicate services such as OEM email accounts and their associated syncing....using add-in apps for them. (example: built-in apps and widgets like Facebook, Twitter are uninstalled or disabled and am using another combining app like Seesmic. Same goes for the email app)
What I currently have is an Android iPhone. I'm using only icons on the 2 homescreens. And this makes me understand why Apple refuses to use widgets and stick with icons...to preserve BL. I hope this will improve the BL of my Androids because it is purely horrendous. And it is horrendous with all Androids I've tried and used.
Until the recently announced battery tech breakthrough is made available, this might have to be how Android is used from now on. But I doubt these extreme measures will actually help.

What is the difference between a widget and an application?

An application is a single, whole program package that is loaded into the phone. Examples would be Tapatalk, the default Calculator, and Angry Birds.
An application can have one or more widgets in it -- a widget is an interactive thing you can place on the home screen. It can give you information, and you can tap on it to change what it says. A good example of that would be Beautiful Widgets, or the little Android guy that tells you about how to use your new phone.
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@Marty, how long was your battery lasting prior to the "Extreme Makeover"? Mine currently will last me 2 days. Admittedly, I've not loaded a lot of stuff on the phone yet, and I have the power saver mode start at 70%...but I only need to recharge every other day.

My desire lasts around 2 days with moderate usage. But on a good day (read: many boring moments), it's completely depleted by the end of the day. My biggest battery drainer is whatsapp, if I uninstall the app my battery will last a LOT longer.
If i really need my phone to last for a long time (when Im on a big trip or on a festival) I always use JuiceDefender with a very strict setting. This is a big help, but not for everyday use

whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|

Ive dont the same thing, I also found some build prop and init.d tweaks that improve battery life.
my brightness is always at minimum, i have only one widget,
My battery could last two days BUT i use my phone a lot. like its on for 7 hours with 4.5 hrs screen on.

grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Hilarious.

ther have been many apps and disucssions on BL. heres some common tips.
screen to lowest brightness possible setting. background data always off unless using market. disable -use wireless networks- options, no gps, no location. also turn off *back up my data*. wifi always off not in use. screeen timeout no more than 2 minutes. turn off animations and transitions. setcpu with moderate settings (if you can do a screen off profile it will be beneficial but beware Sleep of Death.) no live wallpapers. minimum widgets or none. minimum homescreens or 1. startup manger. adfree. location cache app. and battery calibration to get the most juice.

the issues seems to be alot with hardware the Htc inspire and HD2 have 1250 Mah Batteries , which are very small.

If some people are just like me... I can kill at 1800mah battery in 5 hours even at full charge...
I do everything on my smartphone. So anything to save the battery is a good way.
I have the Galaxsy S II and I've managed to drain the battery in 6hours of usage and since I'm not near a power source most of the time then yeah I need all the juice....
I don't sit in an office or am near a power source 80% of the time. I usually carry 2 spare batteries with me and a charger for them just in case.
Cheers! (Extreme power user).
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Whats the point??
Here is my daily usage :
Alarm goes off at 6:30am (phone gets unplugged)
Blahblah (at work) reply to emails and messages throughout the day, on twitter A LOT (plume premium)
2 calls approx 30 mins each
Play some games at break and lunchtime (Drag racing KILLS my battery, a bit of plants vs zombies, grave defence HD and maybe some pinball deluxe)
more emails and twitter
another 20min call
a little more gaming while im waiting on customers (1hr or so??)
6pm go home for 6:30pm
BAM! battery is at 10-20% and i need to plug it in again.
this is a typical 12hr day for me and im sure others have longer days and i would appreciate not having to rush home (sometimes) if im expecting a call.
so as far as im concerned anything which will save some precious battery on my devices is appreciated.
btw i have reduced my homescreens to 3 and only have 2 widgets running and that has made a great difference to my battery life (esp. on the DHD)
Irvysan

Basically kill factory and carrier bloatware and you are getting better.
One thing I was amazed about was the eBook reader that comes with our Galaxy Tabs, and suppose others too.. it always working even if you dont have or use it.
And remember, the screen is what takes most out of your BL, always. Lower brightness? Get a better ROM with no bloatware and maybe undervolt the screen.
Homescreens dont change a bit. Widgets do, if they update a lot.. more than that notification stuff do. Like if you use a antivirus or antisomething, just check of notifications.. check of any unneeded notifications.
Vibration theorically is what consumes the most.. but since its not as used as the screen, you dont even compare them. But every little bit helps. Check off keyboard clicks and hepatic feedback - vibrations.
Wifi, bluetooth, data... don't actually consume much.. actually it's better if you leave a service stable on, than keep sleeping and switching it. So leave wifi always on, no sleep policy. But when you go out turn it of so it doesnt keep scanning all the time (unless you want to ).
Just like any PC, the more you install.... Just check what you got going on, learn how to check processes and services that keep on all the time, and there are some utils to help stop some crap from starting up. I use ROM Toolbox and Autostarts.. some stuff get activated just because you plug you device to charge!
DONT use task killers... dont let anything like that keep running... and no, GMail push notifications wont use any batt. Maybe pop/imap emails always pollling will use some.. but probably nothing compared to the examples above.
Cheers for my 2 cents.
EDIT: and after Xmas, remove those animated wallpapers!

Is Juice Defender a task killer? Not really sure what is it but I've been wondering about that.
Juice Defender Ultimate has been giving me about a 1/3 more time with screen on max. Why is my screen on max, because I was trying to drain the phone. It's on about 40% now which is still pretty bright. I wouldn't be mad to get more life but I think 20+ hrs with moderate use isn't bad. I think the most I did was search the net about 4 hours total. But I was also, customizing, so it the screen was lit for a while.
This is a TMO GSII I'm talking about.

There are a ton of things you can do, but the truth of it all is that our 3G/4G radios pull so hard they drain the battery, which is why you were on the right track when you disable active since, Facebook and Twitter.
The main two things I do, is
1. add a widget for turning off 3G or 4G (If its in your area).
2. Installed Startup Manager ( it disables startup programs in the unseen background, (my phone is rooted)).
by doing these two things I am able to get 17hrs+ on a standard HTC EVO 4G battery. Keep in mind the more you use the Internet the more it will drain your battery. So I only turn the internet connection on when I need it or the app needs it.
*I also only use one screen and remove unnecessary widgets but I find that doesn't help the battery life all that much, (my personal Preference)
*When I or my sons game on my phone I put it on Airplane more which turns off all Radios including the Phone (call/text)
*Drawback to turning 3G off, you have to wait a few second for the internet to come back on and MMS won't download through your messenger unless have it one.
I've been off the charge for 8hrs and my battery life is still at 65%
Sorry to be long winded but if I know anything its battery life

Completely agree. What's the point. Either you don't use your phone for ANYTHING, and watch the battery last for 2 weeks (literally), or you use it so heavily that it lasts only 2 hours....
I was sick recently, and as such couldn't use my phone (I couldn't open my eyes without getting dizzy, and even closed.... still was). Suddenly my HTC Inspire 4G used only 20% of the battery in 10 hours. The previous day, heavy mail, "friendstream" (HTC's facebook/twitter/etc app/widget), listening to music (well, audiobooks) for about 8 hours, and I had only 20% left. And i've found that overclocking the phone to 1.3GHz helps more than any other tweak.
Don't get me wrong, I'm obsessive about using my phone *and* getting awesome battery life out of it. But the ONLY way to true "maximize" your battery life is to *minimize* your usage. But then you might as well buy a feature phone.
And I know a few people with iPhones. a 3GS and a 4 and a 4S. They don't get any better battery life than I do. Heck, they get worse. Even under the same type of usage.
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development. Your battery is dying as soon as it leaves the factory. Your battery is dying every time you change it. Especially when it gets hot. your battery dies faster when it's cold outside. We need better energy storage medium. Period.

Buy the biggest battery I can find on eBay....
Use the fsck out of my phone all day and have plenty of battery left.
Problem solved.

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We need better energy storage medium. Period.
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I don't think the use of WiFi could be overstated.
On my Skyrocket, leaving Wifi on (indoors), it'll sip about 1% every hour. I go out and have 4G LTE on, it drinks up about 3% every hour.
Minimizing widgets also helps. I saw noticeably better battery after removing my facebook and Latitude widgets.
The screen also sucks up the most battery. Turn it off on every occasion. Just turning it off instead of letting it shut off by itself has made a difference for me.

Drashna said:
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development.
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Battery technology has kept up with usage. However, battery size in relation to the power draw, has not.
Compare the size of the back cover on your phone, with the size of the battery. Why is the battery this tiny little 2" square, when the phone is 5" tall and 2.5" wide? Why aren't batteries the same height/width as the phone? Why isn't the battery the same size as the back cover? Why aren't phone manufacturers optimising the size of the battery (meaning, making it as big as possible)?
It would be so nice if phone manufacturers would stop with this stupid "race to the thinnest" crap, and started:
- releasing phones that are actually comfortable to hold like a phone
- releasing phones with batteries larger than a pack of matches
your battery dies faster when it's cold outside.
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Actually, keeping a battery cool makes it last longer, not drain faster.

[Q] Horrible battery life on infuse

Can someone please help me with my horrible battery life on my infuse? I cant make it a whole day on my phone. I don't play games on it at all during the day because I work. The only thing I do is make calls and text. I had 100% battery this morning at 6:00am and it is now 1:30pm and I am down to 12%. I am running the latest version of catyrom on my phone and it was supposed to increase the battery life. My phone is less than a year old (probably only 6 months old if that) so the battery on it should not be shot. Any help would be awesome!
THANKS!

bassman198721 said:
Can someone please help me with my horrible battery life on my infuse? I cant make it a whole day on my phone. I don't play games on it at all during the day because I work. The only thing I do is make calls and text. I had 100% battery this morning at 6:00am and it is now 1:30pm and I am down to 12%. I am running the latest version of catyrom on my phone and it was supposed to increase the battery life. My phone is less than a year old (probably only 6 months old if that) so the battery on it should not be shot. Any help would be awesome!
THANKS!
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Should not be like that. All the uckl2 base ROM have very good battery life.
Try a reflash. I would go into cwm, wipe data, wrote cache, wipe dalvik, fix permission, go to mount, wipe system, data and cache. Re flash ...i would try Another uckl2 base ROM then go back to caty if battery seems better

Buy Juicedefender Ultimate, set it up whichever way works for you. I couldn't tell you about Catyrom and the JD AOSP helper compatibility.
Buy and set up SetCPU to downclock your CPU when your screen is off, and when your phone's charge goes under a certain amount. Change your governor to conservative, ondemand, or smartass. Those will help. You could try undervolting, but be wary of doing it too much.
Look at your battery useage history and work out your app issues from there.
A faster microSD card wouldn't hurt, class 4, 6, or 10 would be better than a class 2, if you're even using a microSD card. Faster read/write means less time reading/writing.
If you need even more power, you could always go to 2G networks if Catyrom allows you to use them. From my experience, it will interfere with speakers on other devices. I have ~8 pairs of speakers in my office, and the interference drives all my co-workers nuts.
And you could always carry a spare battery, which isn't the best of options, but it's a sure fire way to go on
Reduce the number of widgets you use, reduce the number of screens you have, remove redundancy in your apps, and turn off live wallpapers.
Turn off auto brightness, and set it down to lowest valuable that is useable, then bump it up just a bit more. Then set your timeout to something conservative such as 15 or 30seconds or 1 minute.

garbagedump481 said:
Buy Juicedefender Ultimate, set it up whichever way works for you. I couldn't tell you about Catyrom and the JD AOSP helper compatibility.
Buy and set up SetCPU to downclock your CPU when your screen is off, and when your phone's charge goes under a certain amount. Change your governor to conservative, ondemand, or smartass. Those will help. You could try undervolting, but be wary of doing it too much.
Look at your battery useage history and work out your app issues from there.
A faster microSD card wouldn't hurt, class 4, 6, or 10 would be better than a class 2, if you're even using a microSD card. Faster read/write means less time reading/writing.
If you need even more power, you could always go to 2G networks if Catyrom allows you to use them. From my experience, it will interfere with speakers on other devices. I have ~8 pairs of speakers in my office, and the interference drives all my co-workers nuts.
And you could always carry a spare battery, which isn't the best of options, but it's a sure fire way to go on
Reduce the number of widgets you use, reduce the number of screens you have, remove redundancy in your apps, and turn off live wallpapers.
Turn off auto brightness, and set it down to lowest valuable that is useable, then bump it up just a bit more. Then set your timeout to something conservative such as 15 or 30seconds or 1 minute.
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Thanks! I downloaded juicedefender and setcpu both. I had seen juicedefender in the market but was a little questionable about what it does. but I will see what and how good it does tomorrow. I have my phone charging right now so I will upload a pic of my battery life tomorrow around 3 so we can see how my phone is doing. When I looked at the battery usage when I plugged in my phone it was on for 7h 34m 24s on battery and when I plugged it in I had 6% battery. I really hope that this works. like I said all I do is text and call during the day.
Thanks again!

bassman198721 said:
Thanks! I downloaded juicedefender and setcpu both. I had seen juicedefender in the market but was a little questionable about what it does. but I will see what and how good it does tomorrow. I have my phone charging right now so I will upload a pic of my battery life tomorrow around 3 so we can see how my phone is doing. When I looked at the battery usage when I plugged in my phone it was on for 7h 34m 24s on battery and when I plugged it in I had 6% battery. I really hope that this works. like I said all I do is text and call during the day.
Thanks again!
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JuiceDefender, to put it shortly, will kill your data connection/wifi/gps automatically and will enable them again on a schedule.
Those won't interfere with your texting or calling, but it will interfere slightly with your MMS. You'll have to wait for data to be re-enabled to download pictures/videos.
You can set up a schedule for work to be on a more frequent basis than the one when you're not at work, and once you set the battery threshold and the "ignore on low battery" function, it will stop all schedules once the battery reaches that point.
It will re-enable data/wifi when you turn your screen on so you can use it.
That's about most of what it does and it does work very well.
If you'd like, you can get cheap spare batteries from ebay. They mostly ship from China so they take up to a month to get to you, but they're very inexpensive. I just got my 2200 mAh battery (it fits just like the stock one) and it's not even broken in yet. It's 2 PM where I am and I unplugged my phone at ~8. I'm still above 65%. I don't tend to have very restricted battery use like some folks, but I do look for ways to reduce the battery waste. Most of my stuff works when the phone is in idle/deep sleep. I haven't done much of anything today with the exception of a very few calls and a few texts, a little surfing, and I downloaded a CM7 update from the CM7 port's thread.
When it's been broken in it should do better. CM7 isn't as battery friendly as some other ROMs but I like it very much so far. I have been furiously debating whether or not to move to Zeus ROM, as it seems like the big boy's Infuse ROM right now but I can't tuck away CM7 just yet
EDIT: Another, probably very minor, battery saver would be to download and install Adfree. It reroutes all outbound requests for advertisements to the device itself, so those don't download data and you don't see ads. Instead of them possibly keeping your scheduled data connection on for longer while they download (or pumping up your data useage), they never go outbound because they don't require internet access once checked against the HOSTS file.
Also don't forget to do what qkster advised. Bad flashes do happen, and you could have just had a bad flash.

Bassman--What does about phone say is eating the battery?
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I have never gotten what I thought was decent battery life out of this phone... I work as a field tech so this phone is my office... Serendipity gave me the best battery life of any rom I've tried and I've tried several.
When I first got it I used Infused rom I would average 3 to 4 batteries a day. When I went GB roms that dropped drastically to 1-2... Serendipity would get me through the work day (8-10hrs) and home w/ a little to spare. Lately I have been bouncing back and forth between caty and zeus averaging 2+ batteries a day.
Might add I received my phone as a hand me down from someone at work. He only used it for a few weeks but kept it stock.

On any rooted ROM, i usually use tibu and delete buddy now, facebook, att, tether manager, devive update manager, etc..every possible background crap.
Every user is different, but with just calls and text, is not unusual for me to have 2-3 days before a charge.
Data sync and wifi off when not using data

Rxnelson the about phone says display. But that is the case on almost all phones. I have my auto off set to 1min
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You can also try following basic methods:-
1. Turn Off: GPS, WiFi, Screen Rotation, Bluetooth, APN, Vibration, Animation etc.
2. Minimum Screen Brightness Settings
3. Minimum Screen Timeout setting.
4. Dont install Widgets based apps on home-screen
5. Kill the un-necessary background apps from Task Manager.
6. Use black theme in apps.
Thanks
Nits

Something I've found helps a lot is rebooting every morning. I'm running Zeus and noticed that the first day after a reboot I get great battery life (light- to medium-use would leave the battery at 50% after 12 hours). By the second or third day, I'd barely make it through the day. Since I've started rebooting every morning my battery life has been great. I also used BetterBatteryStats to help figure out which apps were keeping my phone awake. I learned that the Stocks app runs in the background waking the phone regardless of settings. Juice Defender is really a waste of time - you'll get better battery life by figuring out what's killing your battery and getting rid of it than having Juice Defender disable all of your phone's features when the screen is off(while using battery itself).

Man your battery life shouldn't be that bad. If it isn't a bad ROM flash then you could have a bad battery. Sometimes batteries die after a few months.
I did a lot of testing for apps and whatnot to try and see if I could maximize battery life. I tried all the juice defender and similar apps and didn't really like how they were killing off my services when the screen was off.
I found out that the main killers of my battery life were specific apps. When I used email apps with IMAP push services I noticed that they would kill my battery because they kept preventing my device from sleeping. I sometimes need about 18 hours in a day before I can charge so I really wanted to maxmize the battery as much as I could. I monitor new apps when I install them. Some seem sneaky so the battery stats might say that the app is only using something like 4% but it is also making the Android OS keep alive and use a higher percentage. I have about 70 apps installed but deleted most of the apps that seemed to kill my battery. In an 18 hour day now it is common for me to have at least 50% or more battery left over. It did take me a while to get this kind of battery life though. I was getting pretty frustrated for a while.
I'm running stock GB 2.3.3 (Rogers) and I am on the Bell network in the Great White North.