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So i am very new to android, i did however figure out how to get root and get clockwork and flashed a custom rom. I have two questions. 1. I am currently running honeysense rom and see there is a 7.3 update, how do i go about installing the update? will doing the update erase all my apps i downloaded? If so i did back them up using titanium back up.... do i have to do wipe data, cache and all that in clockwork before installing the update?
2. If i want to do a completely new rom what are the steps to doing this as i have all this stuff on my sd card will post a pic of it curious as to what can all be deleted to free up space when starting fresh...
3. Last question sorry, i made a back up of "stock" rom before flashing the honeysense, and i named it "stock" where is that located??
ok so i thought i only had two questions changed to 4.
4. what is pd98img file the third to last one on the pic i uploaded, can it be deleted?
1. Check what Android version they both are if what you have now and the update are the same Android version (2.3.4 for example) then you should be able to just wipe the Dalvic cache when flashing from ROM manager. This will keep all of your apps and settings and flash the ROM. However it's VERY IMPORTANT to make a backup before trying this because certain settings may cause problems and you may need to restore your old version and do a clean install.
2. If you want to try a different ROM you should always wipe all data and caches before doing it, this can be done via ClockWorkMod or Rom Manager. But after that it's just the same as flashing the ones you have already.
3. I'm not really sure but I'm sure someone knows or you can find it via search.
4. PD98IMG is used when rooting to flash the downgraded rom automatically, it's safe to delete, and if you ever need it again it's easy to find.
gcihlar said:
3. Last question sorry, i made a back up of "stock" rom before flashing the honeysense, and i named it "stock" where is that located??
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in the clockworkmod folder under backup
Jake33108 said:
1. Check what Android version they both are if what you have now and the update are the same Android version (2.3.4 for example) then you should be able to just wipe the Dalvic cache when flashing from ROM manager. This will keep all of your apps and settings and flash the ROM. However it's VERY IMPORTANT to make a backup before trying this because certain settings may cause problems and you may need to restore your old version and do a clean install.
2. If you want to try a different ROM you should always wipe all data and caches before doing it, this can be done via ClockWorkMod or Rom Manager. But after that it's just the same as flashing the ones you have already.
3. I'm not really sure but I'm sure someone knows or you can find it via search.
4. PD98IMG is used when rooting to flash the downgraded rom automatically, it's safe to delete, and if you ever need it again it's easy to find.
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I'm not sure what version it is, its on the download link for the rom's link I have a issue where my phone shuts off and gets stuck on the screen after the splash screen and stays there happens every two days or so and this update is suppose to fix it here is the link doesn't really say anything bout what version android it is
never mind i cant post links yet, but in honeysense forum section on here just uploaded a 7.3 suppose to fix my issue i dont think its a change in android version just a fix. If that is the case do i do apply update from sd or apply zip from sd?
2. If i do a full whipe doesn't that erase everything?? including my back ups of the roms i have backed up? never mind on that one found my answer, doesn't touch the sd card right?
Thank you for the quick response.
You can just apply the update from SD, you can even do it with ROM manager and it's a little more straight forward. I'd just take a swing at it and hope it works, if not you always have backups you can restore.
And no, all of your backups should be on your SD card, you dont need to wipe the SD card when flashing a new rom.
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You can just apply the update from SD, you can even do it with ROM manager and it's a little more straight forward. I'd just take a swing at it and hope it works, if not you always have backups you can restore.
And no, all of your backups should be on your SD card, you dont need to wipe the SD card when flashing a new rom.
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ok its 312 mb so im assuming do a full wipe and reflash correct? if this is case can i copy the clockwork mod file that contains my back ups to my computer and also titaniumbackup file to my cpu do a install the rom on my phone then do a format of my sd card? and have it be blank then copy and paste clockwork mod and titaniumbackup back to my sd card and be good to go?
I am sorry for being such a noob to android lol
a full wipe does not mean wipe the SD card. you can leave that untouched
I think you misunderstood me, you DONT need to wipe your sd card, wiping data/cache wont touch your sd card, and flashing wont do anything to it either, you should be able to leave all of those files on it.
i got what your saying i just wanted to start fresh i guess you could say...with a fresh sd card and this newer build i just downloaded the file and its 312 mb so i figured i would just start back from scratch, and wondering if i can do a full wipe on the phone put the rom on my sd card flash it, i have a back up of the older version in case something goes wrong on my sd card can i take the backups copy them to my computer along with the files in titanium, after the format is done with the sd card copy and paste them back on the sd card and restore titanium files and if need be restore the previous version of the rom? so then i have all most of my free space back on the sd again. Will this all work this way?
Ok, i get what youre saying now. Yeah, there's no reason that won't work. I transfered everything from my SD to my computer and then back to another SD because i got a 32GB one. You shouldn't have any problem with that.
ok thank you very much for helping me understand this a little bit more appreciate it a lot
So i think my nandroid backup is nuked... i do a wipe/factory reset, wipe the cache etc etc - tried restoring the backup. After 10mins or so of waiting the process completes and i reboot the phone. I have been sitting here for over 1hr looking at the boot animation.
If there is noway to restore the ENTIRE backup, is there a way i can extract specific stuff like my text messages? I really can't afford to lose them
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So i think my nandroid backup is nuked... i do a wipe/factory reset, wipe the cache etc etc - tried restoring the backup. After 10mins or so of waiting the process completes and i reboot the phone. I have been sitting here for over 1hr looking at the boot animation.
If there is noway to restore the ENTIRE backup, is there a way i can extract specific stuff like my text messages? I really can't afford to lose them
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That seems to happen when /datadata is full or there's some other problem with restoring /data, and the system isn't able to boot. Maybe you can wipe /datadata only and see if boots. I also know that TiBu can extract data from nandroid backups, but I'm not positive whether that applies to messaging.
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...Maybe you can wipe /datadata only and see if boots...
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Let me apologize for my ignorance but how do i do that?
duwii said:
Let me apologize for my ignorance but how do i do that?
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In recovery, go to mounts & storage, and format /datadata. Although my memory fails me as to where messages are stored...
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i forgot to mention that this is a fresh installation (i formatted the entire internal storage, basically coming from STOCK).. i still need to do that wipe you refer to?
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i forgot to mention that this is a fresh installation (i formatted the entire internal storage, basically coming from STOCK).. i still need to do that wipe you refer to?
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Well wiping /datadata may (or might not) allow the phone to boot, because the phone can't boot when that partition is completely full. It also might wipe your messages but I'm not positive.
Hey, so this could be a completely stupid question, but what is the 'correct' way to upgrade a ROM? At the moment I reboot into Recovery and then select 'Install .zip from SD card' and just pick the new ROM.
However, in the thread, people are saying to use a command or something? I used an all-in-one tool to remove the bootloader/root my phone (International One X) so I don't know if that command is for people rooting it via Command Prompt or what have you.
I have no idea which way is better, so I thought I'd ask here to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong.
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Hey, so this could be a completely stupid question, but what is the 'correct' way to upgrade a ROM? At the moment I reboot into Recovery and then select 'Install .zip from SD card' and just pick the new ROM.
However, in the thread, people are saying to use a command or something? I used an all-in-one tool to remove the bootloader/root my phone (International One X) so I don't know if that command is for people rooting it via Command Prompt or what have you.
I have no idea which way is better, so I thought I'd ask here to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong.
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Your method should be fine. You do need to check with the developer though as some updates require a full wipe first in order to prevent any bugs. Use titanium backup or some similar backup program so you can easily restore your apps and settings after a full wipe.
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RJFrank33 said:
Your method should be fine. You do need to check with the developer though as some updates require a full wipe first in order to prevent any bugs. Use titanium backup or some similar backup program so you can easily restore your apps and settings after a full wipe.
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Ah ok, thanks for clearing it up!
i wasn't sure on that one either, so now i know it's nothing wrong with installing from sd card. i have one question still, where can i find sony ericssons firmware, something like http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/ for samsung.
You can have some stability issues if you don't do a full wipe
I always full wipe and clear cache and dalvik cache before and after install. Overkill probably but never had a problem.
I'd do a full wipe every time but recently the ROM I'm using has been putting out updates every few days, restoring with Titanium each time is such a hassle, definite first world problem.
Your way should work but sometimes when i update without a full wipe some programs FC(force close) and i lags.
I use 4ext for recovery. It has a script that will format and wipe everything that needs to be wiped (except the SD card) then I use Titanium Backup. I bought the pro version which is less of a hassle when restoring.
-place newer rom on your sd card
-backup current rom just incase you need to go back
-use titanium backup to save your apps and app data
-wipe everything, then do it again just to make sure
-install your newer rom
-enjoy
I know this seems like a hassle everytime to update a rom but I usually flash roms 2-3 times a week and I have never had a problem with a rom that wasnt developer related. Hope this helps
I flashed CleanRom 5.0 the other day, along with the new Modem and RPM. I was previously stock and rooted ICS. I no longer have the ability to use DLNA, and searching the CleanRom thread in the Developement section it looks like it might be because I did not install the Allshare app when installing the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30877701&postcount=1131
I want to go through the install again, but have a few questions, but don't have the authority to post in the ROM thread. Just want to make sure I go through the right steps.
Do I just need to boot into CWM recovery and do a system wipe, cache wipe and delvik cache wipe, then reflash and install the ROM with the options I want?
Do I need to reflash the Modem and RPM?
Also, in this post, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34675681&postcount=7511
Scott states at the bottom "3. Restoring data form ICS is highly discouraged but I dont th ink would cause any screen jitters."
Does this mean that I should not restore my User Apps & Data that were backed up using Titanium Backup Pro from my original ICS ROM? I can re-download my apps from the Playstore, but it really easy to do with Titanium BU. I restored my User Apps & Data this way after originally flashing CleanRom 5.0, and didn't notice any issues, but want to make sure I do things the right way this time. I did not restore any system apps & data, just user apps & data.
Any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for helping a rookie out!
Boot into CWM, wipe data then flash the ROM the way you want. You don't have to flash RPM or Modem again. Just restore your apps and their data. Don't restore any system data (never should).
This what you needed?
Yes, that is perfect, and what I thought. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
I do have a few other questions that I would like to have answered:
With the CleanRom installed, am I going to get prompted for the Verizon OTA updates when they get pushed out? I assume not.
Not saying I want to go back to my stock/rooted ICS which I made a nandroid of, but if I did decide to restore that nandroid, it restores the Modem and RPM that go with that ROM, correct? Or will I need to find and flash these?
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The OTA is disabled in CleanROM. Nandroid backup should copy everythng.
Got another question regarding data wiping.
In section 2 of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
states "Step 5: Wipe Data/Factory reset, then under the "mounts & storage" menu Format System."
In all the threads I have read I see folks state to do a data wipe/factory reset, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik cache. I have only seen the "Format System" in this thread.
The reason I ask, I just went through the process of re-flashing CleanRom 5.0 and did the data wipe/factory reset, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik cache and when I go into my file explorer, I see folders from before doing a data wipe.
I assumed a "data wipe/factory reset" would delete all this info from the internal sd card bringing it to a clean factory setting. Looking at the "Mount and Storage Menu" in CWM, there is the option "format /system", "format /sdcard" among others.
I guess I would like to know if a "format /system" is required, and would this get rid of old data, or is a "format /sdcard" the right thing to do?
Formatting system is a matter of preference to be honest. You don't realize this but by flashing CleanRom 5, Scrosler (that roms dev) has the rom automatically format /system before it installs. You'll notice it does so if you watch and read it as its installing although it does say this in passing. So to answer your question, it already formatted /system as it installed BUT this isn't the case with every rom.
When you "wipe data" and flash a rom, all you're deleting is the software on the phone itself not the data saved to your internal or external sd card UNLESS you manually select "format sd card" in the process. All your photos/movies/etc are untouched otherwise it would delete all this data and therefore you would not be able to flash anything because your internal storage was already wiped/empty. Make sense?
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That helps. Thanks. I'm picking up the info little by little, but there is a lot to learn.
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That helps. Thanks. I'm picking up the info little by little, but there is a lot to learn.
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Yea, I do agree but if you stick around long enough you'll pick up quite a bit. There are a lot of helpful threads here and helpful people at that.
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Ok, I have done my research and this is a common problem with a new flash, and it happened to me, but I didnt notice it until now. I have the 32 gig nexus, and its only utilizing half of that.
Is there any way at all to correct this without having to wipe everything? I have my phone setup like I want it, and it took a bit of workarounds with lollipop with viper and all.
Or can I at least just make a nandroid? and back up that file somewhere, and then reflash everything or do a wipe to get my space back, and then restore that nandroid? Or will that nandroid bring back the space problem?
Thanks
No. You have to wipe everything. Its the only fix.
Nandroid shouldn't cause an issue. Storage is the issue and nandroid doesn't back up or restore storage.
joho5 said:
Ok, I have done my research and this is a common problem with a new flash, and it happened to me, but I didnt notice it until now. I have the 32 gig nexus, and its only utilizing half of that.
Is there any way at all to correct this without having to wipe everything? I have my phone setup like I want it, and it took a bit of workarounds with lollipop with viper and all.
Or can I at least just make a nandroid? and back up that file somewhere, and then reflash everything or do a wipe to get my space back, and then restore that nandroid? Or will that nandroid bring back the space problem?
Thanks
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You can wipe userdata via fastboot and fix this issue.
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You can wipe userdata via fastboot and fix this issue.
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This won't touch my internal SD right? So my backup would be safe? Could wipe userdata and then restore backup?
Thanks for taking the time to help.
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joho5 said:
This won't touch my internal SD right? So my backup would be safe? Could wipe userdata and then restore backup?
Thanks for taking the time to help.
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You HAVE to wipe your "internal SD"
Take a nandroid, backup ALL your data to PC.
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You HAVE to wipe your "internal SD"
Take a nandroid, backup ALL your data to PC.
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Which wipe command will wipe all of this?
I am comfortable using adb/fastboot or whatever, but just need to know how to completely wipe it all.
Can I just redo the factory image flash, like i did initially?
joho5 said:
Which wipe command will wipe all of this?
I am comfortable using adb/fastboot or whatever, but just need to know how to completely wipe it all.
Can I just redo the factory image flash, like i did initially?
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Use fastboot to erase and then flash userdata.img (not whole factory image)
formatting the userdata did the trick...thanks guys.
much appreciation.
Welp, new problem...knew it couldnt be quite that easy.
I copied my whole TWRP folder with the backup inside to my pc, now I cant copy it back. It gives me an immediate error saying it cant copy.
I can click into the folder and copy and paste just the backup folder onto my device, but how can I restore a backup from a custom location, because since twrp doesnt see the TWRP/Backups exact path, then I see no backups to restore from.
Is there a way to restore from say like just sd/backups?