So some of the institutions where I use wireless on my HTC HD7 have a secure wifi network. My problem is that it requires 802.1x EAP TTLS PAP support. As far as i know (along with some use of the almighty google)... there is no support for this on windows phone 7 or almost any windows mobile devices (i do recall some ppl on this site being able to do it for the htc s621 with a registry hack).
Is there any sympathetic developer out there willing to take on the task. Once developed and functioning... I would not mind donating
...anyways... for a possible idea and look into what may be required... people on here did develop it for the android pretty recently and its done wonders...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921237
(link of a thread where someone found the hack needed to enable support and another developer was able to find a manageable way to deploy said support)
Yeah, if someone make an app for that, it would be so awesome.
i miss this feature as well, i used symbian before wp7 which offered these advanced settings
but i'm not sure an app can make this happen
I don't mean an app because that definitely wouldn't be the way.... i mean a possible registry edit or a file to deploy with an installer
This is another thing which has been annoying me with WP7. I used to use SecureW2 client with wm6.5 but this isn't available for WP7. The phone also never seems to retain a data connection with O2 in the UK. It works sometimes after using connection set-up app but invariably drops when I need it most.
Any news from this?? EAP-TTLS would be awesome, because Uni Leipzig uses it as well...
I'd like to bump this as well. We're using Cisco's AP running Open with EAP - RADIUS security. All other common mobile OSes (iOS, Android, WinMo 6.x) can connect to this except WP7.
I'd like to recover the thread as the app mentioned is the single most important missing feature for me right now. Since it seems that we will not be getting any more feature updates in this direction (I had kind of hoped for that).
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Yeah for me too, I am not exactly sure what 802.1x I need but my university needs a username and pw, and iOS does this natively, and with android you need a separate app. I hope Windows addresses in 7.8.(fingers crossed)
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Just a quick question!
How do you think Android will stack up to Windows Mobile when it comes to functionality? Android will certainly look better and be much more finger friendly,etc, but will it be closer to the limits of the iPhone when it comes to copy paste (Android has copy paste, but dont know if it works everywhere), email, contacts, and such? Will Windows Mobile fans be dissapointed or feel crippled when using Android?
Ive played around with the Android SDK a bit, but i havent really gotten a definite feeling if the functionality suits my needs
Cheers!
Yes I am also looking for some forum information on this matter. I would like to know the opinion of anyone who has had a hands on experience with both OS's. Found a nice article in endgadget but I like user opinions better.
I definetly want to know too!
Here is what I want to know for the Droid...
Can you use it as wifi router?
Does it do push hotmail instantly?
Is there logmein support?
Does it work with orb?
i'm moving to Android when Acer A1 liquid is out, then Sony X10a.
Android got free gps navigation with realtime traffic! nice!
segadc said:
I definetly want to know too!
Here is what I want to know for the Droid...
Can you use it as wifi router?
Does it do push hotmail instantly?
Is there logmein support?
Does it work with orb?
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1. Yes
2. No, not that I'm aware of anyway, but you can forward Hotmail email to your Google Account to receive it instantly.
3. Yes
4. Yes
Anything else anyone else wants to know then feel free to post here and I'll do my best to answer it in a reasonable time.
I swapped my Touch Diamond for my G1 and I can do everything that I could do on my windows mobile (although I didn't have WinMo for long)
I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile. Android is approaching windows mobile when you think of the ability to flash other OS versions and wide range of applications on an open system. But windows mobile gives me true multitasking ability like a desktop computer, and windows mobile can be edited and programmed to be something else. Through haret windows mobile phones can run haret and even android.
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I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile........
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Yes I'm heading this way too. Android has been quite a disappointment to me. Initially I was very happy with my new Milestone that replaced an HTC Touch Pro running WM6.1. The performance difference was staggering, there really is no comparison between them. However I just find more and more things missing from Android/Milestone note this list is just a braindump, some of it's in Android, some of it's the packaging for the Milestone, I'm guessing you can tell the difference.
No Outlook Integration, I really think that should have been there out of the box, there are third party apps that i've used with varying degrees of success.
Restricted Video viewing. I used to use coreplayer to view just about anything on WM without any conversions. Now through restricted information on APIs needed to port CorePlayer to ANdroid I'm stuck with a lengthy conversion process when I want to put video on the phone.
No contact lookup while dialing from the keypad, I really miss that.
No note taking, or word editing apps built in.
Can't save attachments in email - wtf!! this is basic functionality, everytime I want to view a word file attached to an email I have to wait while it downloads form my mail server.
Can't foreward some attachment types - crazy crazy
Can't edit original text in replies or forwards - this is basic functionality missing
Cut and paste is awful - ranging from not implemented, to badly implemented depending on where you try to use it.
Can't switch an sd card without rebooting - I don't know if this is milestone specific but you actually can't remove the sd card without removing the battery.
Tethering, I'm using PDANet, I don't think there is a WMWifiRouter equivalent without rooting the phone? So I am using PDANets blueTooth Dun service, much inferior to WMWifiRouters Personal Area Network implementation.
Can't charge from my exisiting Solar charger (Power Monkey Explorer), thats a pain in the ass, not sure why it doesn't work.
Facebook Contact integration, it claims to have it but it just doesnt work
Logmein doesnt work for me, nor do citrix support it for gotomypc
I'll add more as and when.
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I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile. Android is approaching windows mobile when you think of the ability to flash other OS versions and wide range of applications on an open system. But windows mobile gives me true multitasking ability like a desktop computer, and windows mobile can be edited and programmed to be something else. Through haret windows mobile phones can run haret and even android.
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can you explain what you mean with real multitasking? what miss you on android?
Hi guys new to the forum and my first post
So I have both OS I just got a HTC HD2 Winmo 6.5 and a HTC g1 Android
To me the Android is a lot lot easyer to use then Winmo. And the Markit place is the best I have used. But the HD2 looks nice the layout is top notch but when I go behind the HTC front skine and in to the Winmo I get lost and it all so looks like my winmo PDA witch I dont like.
As you can tell im not realy in to phones that much so dont know the correct names for the stuff im talking about lol.
If I could have Android under the Htc HD2 skin I would be happy
Ive not played with the emulator, but do we know if phone 7 will have a working VPN client this time?
No, there won't be VPN support built in. You can't expect it from third parties either because socket manipulation APIs are missing.
It will come later but no time frame is known.
Thanks for a answer on this.
It does seam crazy that MS are pulling things out that people have wanted working for years.
Yet its a basic option in win7 desktops.
They aren't really pulling things out they just haven't been able to put it in yet. All these things will come and when they do it will be done in a good way and not just a thrown in feature. Give it some time.
I use Astrill VPN services since i live in china and facebook & youube are blocked here
I wrote a mail to Astrill support asking them if they would offer a service for WP7 and they replied:
"If windows 7 phones support L2TP\IPSec.
You will be able to use our service with it."
does windows phone 7 support L2TP\IPSec??
Hello,
Any news regarding VPN on Windows Phone 7 ?
I need it to connect with my company email adress.
I would be grateful for any help
As I know there is no option to install any VPN app which works on WP 6.5 ?
Back in January there was a report which said Windows Mobile 7 Business to be released in 2010. And WM7 Media to be released in 2011.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/187178/windows_mobile_7_to_get_two_versions_report_says.html
The report was wrong. However, I cannot imagine that Windows Phone would not have VPN, Sockets, IP Sec, IE9 Mobile, voice satnav etc by September 2011The one thing I don't expect is full multitasking of third party apps.
Windows Phone is aimed at people who don't want to deal with geeky stuff. They want something easy to use and which covers all the basics. And which is beautiful and has beautiful apps. WP is influenced by iOS but is actually competing with Android. WP is a much better choice than Android for the none geek. Which is 98.0% of humanity.
Ogner said:
Back in January there was a report which said Windows Mobile 7 Business to be released in 2010. And WM7 Media to be released in 2011.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/187178/windows_mobile_7_to_get_two_versions_report_says.html
The report was wrong. However, I cannot imagine that Windows Phone would not have VPN, Sockets, IP Sec, IE9 Mobile, voice satnav etc by September 2011The one thing I don't expect is full multitasking of third party apps.
Windows Phone is aimed at people who don't want to deal with geeky stuff. They want something easy to use and which covers all the basics. And which is beautiful and has beautiful apps. WP is influenced by iOS but is actually competing with Android. WP is a much better choice than Android for the none geek. Which is 98.0% of humanity.
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So all this issues that have been filed with MS answers support forum (or whatever it is called) is coming from Android users?
You gotta be living in Ballmer's ass thinking that.
has any one read anything about VPN support in the meanwhile?
it's the only thing that i miss on my phone at the moment... well and VOIP would be nice
from all the things I have read, it seems vpn is still missing from winpho7.
I also live in China and need a vpn. I bought an HD7 and felt sad when I had to return it a few days later. It is a beautiful os, but not at all good for foreigners in China.
-Caid.
Totally agree! VPN us important and Skype is also missing... I found though that is not that tragic with the mango update coming in the end of the year all the problems should be solved
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The Skype part missing will be fixed. I have not seen anything official on missing VPN being addressed.
It would be nice to have VPN support but it is apparent that WP7 is getting better with time.
htc hd7 on china T_T
Caid444 said:
from all the things I have read, it seems vpn is still missing from winpho7.
I also live in China and need a vpn. I bought an HD7 and felt sad when I had to return it a few days later. It is a beautiful os, but not at all good for foreigners in China.
-Caid.
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:: like me... T_T am a foreigner in china and just bought mah win7 htc hd7 but it seems useless since i can't even access fb and tweeter on mah fone (( even multimsgr for win7 not applicable for mah fone..
anyone knows whether MANGO will support VPN?
I read in a website that there is still no VPN support - can this be??
If there's no VPN support when the official update arrives, whether it is app-based or built-in, I'll need to buy another phone. VPN is essential to log in to our universitys network.
I suppose microsoft does not want our private data tunneled. All must go through their servers...
vpn probably won't come until the update after mango.. supposedly that release will be more focused on enterprise features.. I'd be surprised if vpn is missing from that list.
most of iranians people Do not buy Windows Phone 7 devices.. because our stupid islamic goverment Filterd many websites.. facebook. twitter... youtube... g+ ... and many other sites...
so we need VPN function... all OSs have VPN... android ... wm6.5 ... iphone ... and blabla...
i dont know why windows phone 7 dont have VPN !!! it is very ridiculous
Hello Yep you are absolutely right in saying if there is no VPN why would organizations use it for their email. But there is more to it,
Organizations won;t use it for their email/
They won't recommend their employees to have Windows Phone 7 Smartphones as they won't be able to have secure remote access with out VPN.
Netizens in Censored Countries won't use it as it won't allow them to bypass censorship
Heavy Hotspot users won;t use Windows Phone 7 as they can't VPN for secure WiFi Sessions.
And there is a lot more if they don't support VPN.
I wonder why they haven't decided to roll out the update with Windows Phone 7.5 Mango. This will fail the product in corporate and Privacy Oriented Users for sure.
http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/why-need-vpn-on-windows-phone-7-5-mango
I tried to test out the new Remote Desktop application in the marketplace. There weren't any reviews so I download the trial. It wouldn't connect to any my computers, and ended up throwing an exception then running out of time on the trial.
Anyone else have better luck? I really want an app that works with Windows' RDP without having to install any other software. It would be awesome to get Jaadu or something with that quality on WP7. I've used it on iOS and its a fantastic client.
Hey I just tried it out, but im not sure what the hell I am doing and what developer doesn't include a "How to" in the app?
Any knows how to use this windows 7 feature? I do have w7 pro...
I got the app to connect to my Windows 7 desktop at home so it does work.
I don't know how this app works exactly but there's no way it's doing a direct connection to your workstation or server because the WP7 SDK doesn't support sockets. It must be going through a proxy of some sort which may be a security concern.
The real RDP clients will come when Mango is released and sockets are supported. Until then there will only be proxy based clients found on the marketplace.
If you are desperate for a RDP client this one seems to work ok.
The first real RDP app!
I tried the app yesterday. It worked perfectly at the first try. I really need such an app.
Sadly after purchasing it, it did not work at all. But surprisingly sometime later it was alright again. According to the exceptions that were thrown it has to do with the proxy-server that tunnels the tcp requests over http.
The server seems to be a bit unstable but I guess they will improve it sooner or later.
So I think if you need a real RDP client for now just use it – it’s really working well as long as the proxy is up! It is definitely the best and fastest one on the marketplace. Of course under a security-point of view an app that connects directly would be much nicer (I think they will change it as soon as mango it out). On the other hand if it would connect directly how could you now that it is not also sending your passwords elsewhere (if you are not going to sniff the network traffic…)?
There are only some minor things which could be better:
- Ask for permission to run under lock only once - not on every startup!
- Pinch to zoom to be able to click with more precision.
- Better behavior for text-input. I sometimes can´t see what I´m typing.
But for a v1 version thumbs up from me!
waiting for real rdp protocol, that can be done only with socket support...
Hello,
I will preface this by an apology if I am putting this in the incorrect place, or this is a topic that is well covered; but I so far have not been able to get solid information on this.
From what I understand, ICS is going to include and/or support Cisco AnyConnect . However, that does not help the many users out there still using legacy Cisco VPN solution at our workplaces.
Specifically AnyConnect (at least on android, the only flavor I have had experience with) does not support Group Authentication, and neither do the default VPN clients included on Android.
So far I have had success on my Samsung Epic 4G running Froyo using VPNC to connect to my corporate network, but now I am shopping for a tablet. Likewise I have friends at work who want an android tablet but since they can't easily connect to work to do very basic things, they haven't bought.
I don't want to need root just to get a proper VPN connection up and running. For one thing that leaves me dependent upon a tun.ko being available for the tablet, not to mention just getting root in the first place isn't always easy as it was for the Kindle Fire or my Epic. And I certainly am not going to recommend that for my less technical friends.
So all that exposition out of the way, it comes down to this simple question - will ICS have a built in client that will support IPSEC group authentication , or will such client be available to install without root and needing to install modules?
Thanks for your patience if this is covered elsewhere, but most everything I have found in searches here (and elsewhere) for is based on AnyConnect and my company's VPN doesn't support that, and they aren't going to change that anytime soon.
I apologize - this should probably have been in the Question forum.
I would also like to know the answer to this to. my work uses group authentication and there is no apps or anything that will do this!
I am looking for this information as well. I certainly wish Google and Cisco could sit down and get this figured out. Apple did and the iPads at work can VPN in but not my Transformer Prime. I knew this before I purchased it, but went ahead with it hoping this would be added/fixed with ICS.
I havent had a chance to try it yet on my GN but you can now create "IPSec XAuth with PSK" (AKA Cisco VPN). If you have the GSM version of the GN you might run into problems though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20627062
I have a VZW GN device which someone in that thread mentioned works. Since the key for my VPN is quite hard to type I'll try it tonight and post if it works tomorrow.
Hi,
I would like to change my current phone (ZTE Blade with Android 2.3). I am not to happy with the phone and not to happy with Android either. I got iPad1 but I am not a big fan of iOS as well.
All Windows Phone devices looks cool and prices for decent model are not as high as for iPhone. Unfortunately WP is very unpopular and since none of my friends got one there is no way I can find out few things about it.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to answer my questions?
1. On iOS there is no problem in getting apps from different markets. I live in Poland but with VPN service I got access to NBC, ABC, Hulu, etc. Getting an app is simple - you just switch iTunes account and as long as US or UK app is free I can download it without problem.
Android is a bit more difficult... had to root the phone (with some help) and for stuff like that I need to look in the internet no in Google Play shop.
As far as I know WP requires Live ID and this determines what is available to us. Switching Live ID's = hard reset :-(
So, question is: can I get (and how difficult is it) apps from US and UK markets to my phone?
If answer to Q1 is YES (with some details, please ) - than:
2. Will it work on any WP device or (like wit Android phones) some of them are "no go" in this area?
3. Does WP has a VPN client/support?
4. How features like above will or do influence Windows 8? Both WP & Win8 would be a great tandem but from what I know it looks that MS will try to "lock" both in order to make cash on appstore. Is this correct?
5. One more thing, is it possible to use WP device as GSM router for other devices (like in Android phones)?
Hi,
Some short answers here too
Your phone out of the box with your live id can't download/install apps from other marketplaces. It is possible to sideload apps, but I haven't done it so far, 'cause in Germany and for me I found everything needed. Don't know how the situation in Poland looks like.
WP7 does not support VPN. VPN will come in WP8, as Microsoft said in some dev blogs.
MS won't lock W8 to the new store. But you have to differ between W8 x86 and W8 RT (ARM). W8 RT will - I suppose - have some sort of lock like WP7 (and possibly WP8).
Yes, it's called Internet Connection Sharing, but it is not enabled on all devices. It depends on the device manufacturer. WP7 is able to share the connection, but if the manufacturer don't want the device to do it or maybe they want to save money in the development of the device ( ) you can't to it without some little hacking.
Does any one knows... if I will buy let say Lumia 800 in Poland, will I be able to:
- connect to the VPN service I am using?
- install Netflix (US market only)
- install Hulu + (as above)
- install BBC iPlayer (UK market only)
- usie the phone as mobile router
Where do I look for info. - how to do it?
The only current way to VPN on WP7 is to connect to a network that is already using a VPN (WiFi, such as by Internet Connection Sharing from your PC, or by plugging in the phone to the PC and running the Zune software, which will create an Ethernet-over-USB network for the phone).
I can't say for sure about the Marketplace access. It will depend on your credit card, your Microsoft account, and your VPN (if you use one), and possibly even your mobile operator.
Sharing the phone's Internet connection is a supported WP7 feature, but I'm not sure if the Lumia 800 supports it yet. The feature is called "Internet Sharing" and is in the Settings hub. It's available on all Samsung Windows phones, and I think on all HTCs too. Not sure if it's on the Lumias yet, but Nokia has said they were working on it some time ago. Note that if your carrier blocks or requires payment for this service (sharing the cellular Internet connection), the phone will block the feature until you comply. There are hacks to work around that restriction entirely, but those hacks are only currently possible on Samsung, HTC gen1, LG, Lumia 710, and a few Lumia 800 phones.
Thanks for your answer.
As much as I would love to dump Android - I simply can not :-(.