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Looks like the Xperia X1a is dropping in the U.s. at at least Best Buy for now. I have read good reviews on both devices. Has anyone seen a good head to head comparison of these two devices? It looks like they are in the same league. Thanks
I think it comes down to $299 (+2yr contract) for the Fuze, or $799 (+service you were going to pay for anyway) for a WVGA screen and headphone jack. All other pros/cons seem to vary from one reviewer to another.
The Xperia is metal construction. The Fuze is mostly plastic and high gloss black ( print magnet) The keys are spread out nice on the Xperia, bunched up on the Fuze due to the smaller size. There is a slight tilt on the Xperia and the slide is straight out on the Fuze. I know there are a lot of software differences but just wanted to state the obvious physical differences I compared.
If the Xperia sold for $600 it would be the best deal for a PDA Phone in a long while. $865 from a Sony Style store is just a lot of jack in this economy. ( tax inc )
I have looked at the FUZE and the Touch Pro at Sprint. Something has kept me from buyin either one of them. Yeah I sold the X1a a day later for about the same as what I paid for it. Sonystyle wants 15% restock fee ( ouch )
fhsieh said:
I think it comes down to $299 (+2yr contract) for the Fuze, or $799 (+service you were going to pay for anyway) for a WVGA screen and headphone jack. All other pros/cons seem to vary from one reviewer to another.
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not necessarily , because you can get the fuze for $299 on 2 year contract, unlock it for free, sell it for ~$500 and then use that money to buy the xperia, making it only 2-300 more expensive. still more than it should be, but not as bad as people are making it seem..
omaralt said:
not necessarily , because you can get the fuze for $299 on 2 year contract, unlock it for free, sell it for ~$500 and then use that money to buy the xperia, making it only 2-300 more expensive. still more than it should be, but not as bad as people are making it seem..
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Okay you two are on par, but compare it this way.
No-commitment price = $500
RETAIL PRICE = $849.99
Xprea X1a RETAIL PRICE = $800
It's a hell of a deal. Notice why I put two prices. Because you can only get the $500 deal if you're a customer of AT&T. If you're comparing the retail prices, I suggest you compare the retail prices. Not retail vs no-commitment. The $500 price is retail for AT&T customers only.
i mean, come on, anybody can get a brand new fuze for $500 + tax. If your not an at&t customer, i'm sure you know somebody whos an at&t customer, ask him/her to go buy one for you, no committment. the people who get screwed are our nice neighbors to the north (canadians). none of their gsm carriers have picked up this phone, and i hear the fuze is selling for north of $600 up there..
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i mean, come on, anybody can get a brand new fuze for $500 + tax. If your not an at&t customer, i'm sure you know somebody whos an at&t customer, ask him/her to go buy one for you, no committment. the people who get screwed are our nice neighbors to the north (canadians). none of their gsm carriers have picked up this phone, and i hear the fuze is selling for north of $600 up there..
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True. But I was comparing the real retail price. Not how cheap you can get it for. I mean I bet someone could get it for free if they stole it. Or $100 if they worked for Sony or whatever. You know what I meant.
My reasons: PHAIL = bad; WIN = good
NO G-SENSOR! PHAIL!
Embedded screen! PHAIL!
Screen res. WIN!/PHAIL! (depending on pov. To install apps - fail; beauty - win)
TF3D and Panels! WIN!
No tv-out! PHAIL!
Metal casing. WIN!
Roomy buttons. WIN!
Price. UBER PHAIL! (I ain't paying that much for a device. IDK if you people like buying every phone for $1000+ as some of you have.)
Sony camera. WIN!
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True. But I was comparing the real retail price. Not how cheap you can get it for. I mean I bet someone could get it for free if they stole it. Or $100 if they worked for Sony or whatever. You know what I meant.
My reasons: PHAIL = bad; WIN = good
NO G-SENSOR! PHAIL!
Embedded screen! PHAIL!
Screen res. WIN!/PHAIL! (depending on pov. To install apps - fail; beauty - win)
TF3D and Panels! WIN!
No tv-out! PHAIL!
Metal casing. WIN!
Roomy buttons. WIN!
Price. UBER PHAIL! (I ain't paying that much for a device. IDK if you people like buying every phone for $1000+ as some of you have.)
Sony camera. WIN!
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But I'd guess most in the US eying on an xperia are already with att, or at least considering it. After all, xperia has the att 3g band, not tmo.
As a side note, I think x1 wins in terms of form factor and battery life as well. But even if the two were the same price, I would have gotten a touch pro. I am very, VERY happy with its keyboard.
What's with this "No commitment price"? I went to Fry's Electronics (big box store like Best Buy), and bought the phone for $475+tax (This was Saturday). While my wife drove, I called up AT&T and asked them for the unlock code. They asked for the IMEA number, I gave them that... and they gave me the unlock code. Phone was up and working on the T-Mobile system before we got home 10 minutes later.
Sure, I don't have 3G... but I like my $15/month unlimited data plan with tethering and free Hotspot calling. AT&T wants $60 for that plan. At 156K/s vs 500k/s... that's just not worth it! (And no, I don't think most people could get the plan I have with T-Mobile... had an account with them since they were called VoiceStream...)
All that being said - I owned an X1i for 5 days. It was hands down the faster phone (all that AT&T garbage probably slows the Fuze down... I'll flash it after I figure out what I really want to do with it). But the screen just didn't do it for me. The Fuze screen is flush with the face of the phone and I think that is a clear win over the X1 (think about how beat up that screen is going to look after a few months). The keyboards are 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other in use. I could use both keyboards just fine. The X1i seemed to have this issue, however, where the software keyboard would launch any time input was required ... even if the keyboard was out. Very annoying. The Fuze let's me choose.
The X1 never locked up on me, and I did a ton of installs and had lots of apps open. The Fuze has locked up almost daily for me. Again, I think it is the AT&T bloatware, but I'm not sure.
So my review is also a little mixed. In the end I made a deal with my wife that if I didn't like the Fuze after a month or so, I'd give it to her and get the X1a (since I figure the price will have dropped by then).
Right now, at a price of $475 vs $799.99 it isn't a contest. When neither phone is a clear winner in any category I would say let value decide - and the Fuze is clearly the better value right now.
@Ghallo
Really I have no idea. Yes, it's true that you can get it for $500 anywhere. But if you call AT&T cs. They'll tell you that retail pricing is for those that don't have Aee Tee & Tee and no-commitment (retail for customers) is the no-contract price for Aee Tee & Tee customers.
Help!!! I've been following this Viewsonic G Tablet forum and just about to purchase the Viewsonic G at Office Depot sale for $379! And then just a minute ago, Costco is selling Samsung Galaxy Tab for $399 no contract required. For no contract, there is 1st month data plan of $20(cancel after 1st month) and $35(refundable with 2 yearcontract) for activation fee.
Help!!! I'm torn!! Dual Core/10inch or singlecore/7inch-portability
I'm getting a headache!
I have both of these tabs. Out of the box the Samsung is ready to roll, I could do anything pertaining to my business with out adding apps. It is a solid performing device, I have had no issues at all with mine. Its plenty fast. All the Market apps I have added installed and work without any fuss.
The Gtab is great fun I really enjoy trying the great work of the developers here at XDA and it can be made to run circles around the Samsung, but it is an addicting time consuming device. If you like to tinker get the gtab, if you need to be productive. I think the Samsung is the better choice, it's reliable and just works when I need it. The Samsung is the tablet I take with me out of the office. The gtab is my free time entertainment. At $399.00 I think the Samsung is a steal, I paid considerably more for mine and don't regret it.
ahhh... that's the beauty of the return policy. I too wanted a Galaxy Tab but held off and so glad I did. I dont think I could use a 7" tablet as it's not much bigger than my phone (probably slower too).
Just our of curiosity? Where did you see $399 NO contract, when I checked Costco, it showed $399, new service / upgrade / add-a-line from Verizon only?
OP might have missed th contract part. A $400 Galaxy Tab would mean instant gloom and doom posts by the Apple fan site known as Engadget
oh, no 2 year contract, only the first month data $20, then u can cancel that. I just read the $35 activation fee is refunded on 2 year contract, let me add that on title. Go to Costco.com then Electronics, Cell Phones, then Tablets & Data Cards Category.
Samsung Galaxy Tab™
* Touch Screen
* Android OS
* No Contract Required
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I own the G Tablet BUT have used the Galaxy Tab for work. Here is how I see it:
Galaxy TAB:
PRO:
Great form factor - if you prefer smaller screen
Amazing quality screen
Light weight
Strong Community Support
Supported by Vendor
CON:
Poor performance in stock form- especially if your coming from the GTablet, any of the higher end google phones or any of the apple products (ipad or iphone)
Community Support limited to GSM models mostly - more focus on NON-American carriers (though are supported eventually as long as it supports GSM)
Contract - after 2 years you could have bought a small used car for the price of this device.
Less future proof - still questionable if it will support Android 3.0 (2.4)
Questionable vendor support - Updates dont come frequently
GTAB
PRO:
Very fast without stock interface
Amazing community support - even for amateur
Amazing price point
Very future proof - Dual Core, 512 Meg of ram
Very large internal storage
No Contract
CON:
Screen quality is horrible in portrait and acceptable in landscape but with poor viewing angles.
Need to be somewhat tech savvy to play around with performance enhancing OS's.
Heavy for an e-reader though it doesn't bother me.
Little no vendor support - questionable with recent posts of whether or not Viewsonic will support this in the future.
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Help!!! I've been following this Viewsonic G Tablet forum and just about to purchase the Viewsonic G at Office Depot sale for $379! And then just a minute ago, Costco is selling Samsung Galaxy Tab for $399 no contract required. For no contract, there is 1st month data plan of $20(cancel after 1st month) and $35(refundable with 2 yearcontract) for activation fee.
Help!!! I'm torn!! Dual Core/10inch or singlecore/7inch-portability
I'm getting a headache!
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How long do you want to wait before replacing it? If you buy a gadget ever couple years, get the GTab, it will be running the latest and greatest for at least the next year, and not feel outdated compared to the market options until a year following.
If you are one of these gadget lovers who gets a toy every 6 months then the galaxy may be worth your while as you'll be able to resell it better than the gtab in 6 months when you get a new android 3.0 tablet to replace it.
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How long do you want to wait before replacing it? If you buy a gadget ever couple years, get the GTab, it will be running the latest and greatest for at least the next year, and not feel outdated compared to the market options until a year following.
If you are one of these gadget lovers who gets a toy every 6 months then the galaxy may be worth your while as you'll be able to resell it better than the gtab in 6 months when you get a new android 3.0 tablet to replace it.
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That is a great point.
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Help!!! I've been following this Viewsonic G Tablet forum and just about to purchase the Viewsonic G at Office Depot sale for $379! And then just a minute ago, Costco is selling Samsung Galaxy Tab for $399 no contract required. For no contract, there is 1st month data plan of $20(cancel after 1st month) and $35(refundable with 2 yearcontract) for activation fee.
Help!!! I'm torn!! Dual Core/10inch or singlecore/7inch-portability
I'm getting a headache!
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Best Buy do the Same...
I would wait and get the gtab from the Sears outlet... and also the Nook Color. Now you have 2 tablets for not much more than the cheapest iPad.
I would never go for a 7" tablet as my only tablet. That's too small for comfortable web browsing. I would only get a 7" in addition to a 10". A 10" tablet is the perfect size for browsing and the processor on the g-tab is top of the line.
There is a BIG difference between a 7" and 10" screen. Highly recommend you go look at and play with an example of each, in person before you decide. I did and as others have said, a 7" screen just didn't seem big enough but the 10" form factor is perfect for a tablet in my opinion. YMMV.
I have both a 10" (g tablet) and a 7" (eLocity A7) and can tell you that they both have their place. 10 is great for viewing content and web surfing. The 7" tablet is just really handy easy to hold and carry with you. I have found myself using the the 7" tablet more often lately. If I'm on the go I will grab the A7 nine times out of ten.
Now I will also say having a powerful Tegra2 chip is nice and both devices are fast, but if you not able to run the apps you want that extra powqer does little for you. I bet both of my device could run Google Earth faster and smoother than the Galaxy Tab, except I have yet to get either device to run Google Earth. Great hardware means little if the sofware dosen't run right.
Now, I love my tegra2 tablets and just hope in time the kinks will get worked out and I can runs all the apps I like. I can't say I have a lot of faith the Viewsonic and eLocity (Stream TV) will deliver, I just hope the XDA community is able to pull it off.
thanks everyone! ok ok
gTablet Office Depot sale ends 1/29 for $379.
Galaxy Tab -Costco and Best Buy have it both for $399 but Costco has 90day refund and 2 year warranty.
From what I read I like the Samsung's 7inch for tag-alongs, and GPS(?) not mentioned on Samsung's website for Verizon.
Viewsonic's gTablet's got power, Anandtech test shows lots of muscles. Honeycomb would just be right around the corner.
I've done custom roms on other devices before so I'm comfortable with that. And now I'm leaning towards Viewsonic GTablet at 95%
I wonder which plays Bejeweled Blitz without issues, standalone of through Facebook
I checked out the sears outlet deal from the store in Nevada. They have a standard shipping fee of $65.
When the lady on the phone told me that i said yall must not really want to ship things, and she just kind of laughed.
I bought the gTablet Saturday, Sears had it for $379, wrong price on the tag but they were able to give it to me.
This thing is Double Rainbow Awesomeness! Viewing angle? it's fine!
Got it to latest Vegan, no issues there.
Launcher Pro, even Bejeweled Blitz Facebook worked flawlessly.
Thanks everyone! I'll try every custom ROM available soon, if I can get it away from my wife and 2 girls(10 and 6year old)
The gTablet is one solid product! I'm glad I chose it over the Galaxy.
Sears Outlet link for searching online?
nevermind. I found the link.
So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
I think you missed the price of the Xoom. From everything I have heard the price is at least $800.
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So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
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The $600ish price is for the Wifi model that doesn't have a confirmed release date. If you don't need a tablet now, yeah I would just wait a couple of months or so and get the wifi only Xoom or wait for the 3G version to drop in price.
Comparing the Xoom and Gtablet is comparing a Luxury car with a Economy car. Do you want the bells and whistles or do you just want something to get you where you want to go?
wait until the lg slate aka optimus pad comes out as well as sumsungs honeycomb tab then make your choice
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Let us not forget that Moto has been locking their bootloaders so your at their mercy for upgrades. If you can wait and don't want a GTab there will be many unlocked devices on the way. BTW, the GTab is completely open and almost unbrickable
Just a thought, if you wait, then the next best thing will be roumored to be coming and you will be waiting again. That being said, if price isn't an issue, and the possiblilty of a locked bootloader isn't an issue, then wait for the Xoom.
I anticipate much better viewing angles, better placement of the headphone jack, power and volume buttons (I hate the fact that the headphone jack is the bottom left but the hard buttons are at the top right so when I'm holding it with headphones i have to hold it top left and bottom right :s), likely better support, probably more development and community support since it will be the first Honeycomb tablet, and most importantly a lot more quality accessories.
I'll be selling my G-tab for a Xoom next month. I want to give Xoom a month or so burn in to see if the price drops and to get a chance to look at the potential alternatives (LG, Samsung, ASUS). That is assuming its bootloader isn't completely locked down and with Moto's recent change in stance towards the dev community I can't image that it would be.
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One more: haptic feedback.
Being an owner of the GTablet and also faced with the same choices - its a tough one.
I see it this way and will depend on your priorities:
If your priorities >= (screen, vendor support, GPS, Android 3.0) and wait time >= NOW then
BUY (ZOOM)
ELSEIF priorities >= (independent support, Cost, Hack-ability) wait time <= NOW then
BUY(GTblet)
ELSE
BUY(IPAD)
hunteradh said:
So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
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This is just my opinion, but features aside, I'd wait to see what how locked down the moto will be, how easy or hard it is to brick, and how much community support it gets, and only then, decide.
Jim
If you want something now with an nvidia tegra 2 processor at a very good price and you are comfortable flashing roms then the gtablet is the way to go. The gtablet is very well supported by the xda dev community.
If you want a tablet that is ready to use out of the box, i.e. you don't like mucking with firmware, then wait a few weeks/months. There's going to be a flood of nice tablets but they will cost more and may be tied to wireless carriers.
I am very happy with my new gtablet.
Malata
Don't forget the new versions of the Gtablet.....
http://liliputing.com/tag/malata-smb-b1005
This could be a competitor for the Xoom also.
The Xoom even at the subsidized $600 with Verizon contract isn't a good buy, cost wise. The blogosphere is in an uproar over the cost of this thing compared to other offerings which has been horrible for the street cred/exitement building up before launch. Yeah, the Xoom is pretty and will be the first to offer Honeycomb but their marketing along with Verizon have done an absolutely terrible job of leaking false prices, charging too much for activating features (wifi), and requiring a 3G plan to be tied down to which makes it much more expensive than just buying it outright for $800.
With rumors of a $599 wifi only version of the Xoom coming you have to decide if the $200 difference is worth it to you.
No matter what rom base or how talented the developers are, the gtablet will never have the better screen, the extra 512 Meg ram or the extra hardware sensors the Xoom will feature....or real Google/market support.
Now....is that worth $200 more is completely your decision. I will possibly pick up a Xoom to replace my gtablet around my birthday (May) unless other more capable tabs are released within the same price range.
The gtablet will be something to play with, tweak, hack, etc....while (for me) the Xoom will be the tab to use and show off to my iPad loving friends.
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With rumors of a $599 wifi only version of the Xoom coming you have to decide if the $200 difference is worth it to you.
No matter what rom base or how talented the developers are, the gtablet will never have the better screen, the extra 512 Meg ram or the extra hardware sensors the Xoom will feature....or real Google/market support.
Now....is that worth $200 more is completely your decision. I will possibly pick up a Xoom to replace my gtablet around my birthday (May) unless other more capable tabs are released within the same price range.
The gtablet will be something to play with, tweak, hack, etc....while (for me) the Xoom will be the tab to use and show off to my iPad loving friends.
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So apparently the keyboard on the GTab is worth writing home about.
I think I'm still waiting for the next line-up of tablets before I pull the trigger on the GTab. I'm sure they'll at least lower the price considerably right before it's nixed.
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I think I'm still waiting for the next line-up of tablets before I pull the trigger on the GTab. I'm sure they'll at least lower the price considerably right before it's nixed.
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I'm not sure I'd count on that. In fact, most of the tablets that ARE out there have seen their prices go UP since December. With the XOOM costing so much, and the prices that have been announced for some of the other tablets, the second tier folks are finding they can charge more and still be a bargain by comparison.
In fact giving how costs overseas are going up on transportation an raw materials in general, I am thinking seriously about getting two more G-Tabs as soon as I get my tax refund before they get another price hike as well.
Reality is these tabs will never replace a laptop these are consumption devices so why pay the price for one at the price of a good computer?
Xoom vs Gtab.
I understand all the questions.....got the Gtab and couldn't be happier. maybe the doom will be all that....but??? don't have to wait....honeycomb will come.
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I'm not sure I'd count on that. In fact, most of the tablets that ARE out there have seen their prices go UP since December. With the XOOM costing so much, and the prices that have been announced for some of the other tablets, the second tier folks are finding they can charge more and still be a bargain by comparison.
In fact giving how costs overseas are going up on transportation an raw materials in general, I am thinking seriously about getting two more G-Tabs as soon as I get my tax refund before they get another price hike as well.
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They won't raise the price of the gtablet. That's unheard of. Maybe if you're comparing to some sort of one time promotion. You don't release a product at one price and then 6 months later, raise it.
For being lauded as a wonderful $400 tablet, I'm not sure about spending well over $500 for one.
Will there be a new generation before we see a $400 transformer for the tablet alone? I have no use for a dock, I just want a nice hackable tab, and the nook isn't really cutting out even at 1.3ghz.
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It's available now for MSRP so I really don't get what you're saying.
he probably means 'readily' available, as in, walk in, walk out with one from a retailer.
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he probably means 'readily' available, as in, walk in, walk out with one from a retailer.
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Well in that case mid/end may or start june
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he probably means 'readily' available, as in, walk in, walk out with one from a retailer.
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i dont think so he said he's not sure about spending 500 for the TF. what are you referring to OP? shipping, taxes or are you from another country? in north america MSRP is 400.
talking about 32gb ? It's 500 here, msrp too
i think he is talking about how ppl on Amazon is selling it for 550
i walked in and walked out with one
By early June to Mid June 2 major competitors (Samsung and someone I forgot) will be on the market. The Asus will be like the Xoom at that point.
Once they start shipping slightly higher qtys it should open up quickly as there are many duplicate and triplicate orders being placed because of the resellers policies of accepting orders and payment then arbitrarily canceling them after some time. Check out the availability thread and stick with the reliable resellers.
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By early June to Mid June 2 major competitors (Samsung and someone I forgot) will be on the market. The Asus will be like the Xoom at that point.
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Why do you say that? The TF 16GB wifi-only is $399. The equivalent Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB wifi-only will be $499. So, the TF will still be the least expensive option (as well as the most interesting given the dock) in its class.
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Why do you say that? The TF 16GB wifi-only is $399. The equivalent Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB wifi-only will be $499. So, the TF will still be the least expensive option (as well as the most interesting given the dock) in its class.
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Agreed. The TF will be the inexpensive alternative in that case.
There will be plenty of people who will want this just because it is $100 (which is a sizable chunk) cheaper and still has a great screen.
I wouldn't be surprised if the TF eats into Samsung's sales -- not vice versa. For instance, I was going to go for the 10.1 but given its late release date and the awesome TF specs, I decided to change my mind and go with Asus.
I ask because I haven't found an online retailer in the us that shows it for $400.
I guess people are taking advantage of scarcity currently.
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TooSlo said:
I ask because I haven't found an online retailer in the us that shows it for $400.
I guess people are taking advantage of scarcity currently.
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Stay on the stickied availability thread, people will post once an online retailer has one for sale.
Also, use http://www.nowinstock.net/
The TF is available for MSRP now -- you just need to put effort into getting one. The ones above MSRP are resellers and not the actual retailers. (Some retailers will show reseller items because the retailers ran out of stock)
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Why do you say that? The TF 16GB wifi-only is $399. The equivalent Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB wifi-only will be $499. So, the TF will still be the least expensive option (as well as the most interesting given the dock) in its class.
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IMHO Samsung will be of higher quality materials. Hopefully it will also have the Samsung processor The killer for Samsung is the 8.9 form factor unit. This size is closer in price, considerably lighter, and IMHO (as an iPad, NC, and soon Transformer owner) a better size for a pure tablet.
The advantage for the Transformer is a dock. With that I would buy it at even a higher price point because of the content creation capabilities. But to a lot of users this is not as big as an a factor.
But, the bottom line is that as more Android tables come on line the impact of any particular unit like the Transformer becomes less and less. It just like what happened with phone. The original Droid was unique, the follow-ons are just another Android phone.
Toshiba? I have seen their tablet (at CES?) and if it is really this one, i am happy i have gone with the transformer, the camera was directly under your finger, lot of (useless?) buttons where you would hold the tab (if you are a lefty), and i doubt the screen will match the transformer one (not sure about this one) and i also doubt it will match the low price...One interesting thing about it though is the "removeable" battery. As for the samsung, it seems great, nice screen, look great, comes in (2?) sizes, but the 3 main reasons i didn't wait to see it is first, the price, doubt they will match the transformer (maybe the little one but i already own a galaxy s, so for little screen i am served) the updates... well the only device i got from samsung was the galaxy s, waited an eternity to get froyo but for gingerbread, wasn't so long (but a LOT of people are complaining that they never updates, etc) and third, the dock, the galaxy tab doesn't seem to want to release a dock at the launch which is definately + for me... other thing that samsung could do to get more customer is to get a processor other than tegra 2 which could actually play 1080p/720p with every profiles... but i don't think they have revealed yet which they are gonna settle with. So i am actually getting my first tablet, transformer with dock, making my programmation course with it and then, i may buy a super quad core tablet
(Dang, think this is my biggest post so far )
EDIT: oh well maybe not finally, just looked enormous on my little galaxy s screen lol
jerrykur said:
By early June to Mid June 2 major competitors (Samsung and someone I forgot) will be on the market. The Asus will be like the Xoom at that point.
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jerrykur said:
IMHO Samsung will be of higher quality materials. Hopefully it will also have the Samsung processor The killer for Samsung is the 8.9 form factor unit. This size is closer in price, considerably lighter, and IMHO (as an iPad, NC, and soon Transformer owner) a better size for a pure tablet.
The advantage for the Transformer is a dock. With that I would buy it at even a higher price point because of the content creation capabilities. But to a lot of users this is not as big as an a factor.
But, the bottom line is that as more Android tables come on line the impact of any particular unit like the Transformer becomes less and less. It just like what happened with phone. The original Droid was unique, the follow-ons are just another Android phone.
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Most of us here are gadget addicts, if Samsung's offering is tasty looking,I'd bet many of us will find a way to get it.Lol,can a person ever have too many devices?
jerrykur said:
IMHO Samsung will be of higher quality materials. Hopefully it will also have the Samsung processor The killer for Samsung is the 8.9 form factor unit. This size is closer in price, considerably lighter, and IMHO (as an iPad, NC, and soon Transformer owner) a better size for a pure tablet.
The advantage for the Transformer is a dock. With that I would buy it at even a higher price point because of the content creation capabilities. But to a lot of users this is not as big as an a factor.
But, the bottom line is that as more Android tables come on line the impact of any particular unit like the Transformer becomes less and less. It just like what happened with phone. The original Droid was unique, the follow-ons are just another Android phone.
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Disagree.
The Xoom was never that popular to begin with so I don't see how you can use that as a comparison.
Again, the biggest point here is the price; form factor is one thing but that only might affect a buyer. Price always caters to a wide audience.
In fact, the only reason in mind that the Xoom sold any units is because it was the only Honeycomb tablet available.
Nobody cares that the Xoom's 32 GB price is the same as the Ipad's 32 GB price. Most people will look at the price and just cringe. It is quite clear that there is a bigger market for a more affordable tablet.
Not only did the Xoom needed to match Apple's lowest price offering, it needed to be EVEN lower -- or else why not just go for the iPad? That is what goes through the minds of most consumers: they might care about size, OS or whatever form factor but in the end it always boils down to price. (when you don't hold the same brand weight as Apple)
The Asus TF is the most affordable quality Honeycomb tablet. (By FAR the most affordable) That is the biggest reason why it is hot right now. Even though I think Samsung will sell the 10.1 and 8.9 just based on brand name alone, I still think Asus will retain strong sales as long as it remains the most affordable quality HC tablet. Asus already has the advantage of releasing the TF a month before Samsung plans to release just the 10.1.
I'm trying to decide between ASUS and Samsung. If ASUS really needs to get these in stores soon.
strikethreeout said:
Stay on the stickied availability thread, people will post once an online retailer has one for sale.
Also, use http://www.nowinstock.net/
The TF is available for MSRP now -- you just need to put effort into getting one. The ones above MSRP are resellers and not the actual retailers. (Some retailers will show reseller items because the retailers ran out of stock)
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Appreciate the link. I'm signed up there now and will see when I can find one in stock!
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Anyone in the UK interested in this ,amazon.com currently has $100 off,with delivery and import taxes comes in at £351 that is a steal
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SQ7GWK/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_v3m1AbS46HVQZ
combat goofwing said:
Anyone in the UK interested in this ,amazon.com currently has $100 off,with delivery and import taxes comes in at £351 that is a steal
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SQ7GWK/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_v3m1AbS46HVQZ
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Just been looking at this. Thinking whether to take the plunge on this one and sell my LG V30
I am from the Netherlands and I bought one in October. I really like the form factor. size of an iPhone 6 and screensize of a iPhone plus.
2 issues. bad reception. so only buy the phone if you have good reception with your current phone at your house or work.
camera is poor. you need to root it for Google camera, which makes the camera ok-ish.
updates are great. phone is fast! like it a lot!
Essential Phone is now available to purchase directly in the UK now via Essential website.