Notification Shade Recent Apps - Thunderbolt General

I think I know the answer....but I am hoping someone knows if there is a way to turn this off. It's so big. Hate it. As far as I can tell...its not optional.
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Nope, can't turn it off.

not yet, give it time for the framework to be ripped apart. root and s-off have just arrived, patience

Agreed that it's a bit large, but I actually like the feature.
My biggest complaint with the TB (other than TFT vs SAMOLED screen) is the placement/arrangement of the capacitive menu buttons at the bottom of the screen. I don't have tiny hands, but they're not particular big either, so the size of the phone and the placement of the Home button make it just about impossible for me to use the phone with just one hand like I do my 4" phones. My thumb just can't reach the Home button when holding it in my right hand without risking dropping it, so it's difficult to do the long press to get the recent apps screen up. I can comfortably drop the shade and select from there, though, so I like it. Obviously a YMMV thing, and accessing the Home screens still takes two hands for me.

yeah, the recently used apps in the notification bar was poorly thought out. It's redundant as holding the home button does the same thing and isn't needed. If they were going to put anything up there, it should've been the quick toggles like the Galaxy S line of devices.

Yes...I also miss the quick toggle from Cyan....I still find myself pulling down the shade only to realize its not there.
And I miss being able to dismiss notification with a sideways swipe.....A LOT!
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rckymtnrfc said:
Yes...I also miss the quick toggle from Cyan....I still find myself pulling down the shade only to realize its not there.
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Check out Widgetsoid. It does what you want but takes a bit of setup

Couldn't you just use a different launcher like ADW? Or is it built into the framework? If so, what a turn off.

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How about a back gesture?

I appologize if its already on here somewhere but I didn't find much on it. what I think would make the G1 much nicer to use would be a back gesture rather then having to reach down to the back button all the time. u know slide your thumb from right to the left when ur in an app and it would be the same as streching your thumb all the way down to the back button. If someone could either tell me how to set gestures or make something quick and simple to do it I think it would be much nicer to use and I would appriciate it much.
This forum is great and helped me tons on my universal so naturally I'm turning here for help first. I have a feeling by the end of the year Android will be killin the iphone! Turns out its not the phone, its the OS... lol..
The G1 does that to a certain extent but what you are talking about would require a lot of codding in the OS, I don`t think it would be a simple task. But if you are a coder and want to do this, I`m sure other people can offer you some assitance, JF would be one of them for sure. Cheers!
svxdriver said:
u know slide your thumb from right to the left when ur in an app and it would be the same as streching your thumb all the way down to the back button.
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Possibly the only space the operating system reserves for its own input detection is the notification bar. I imagine it might be possible to add some kind of swipe detection to that. However considering how narrow that space is, I don't see how it would be any better than just clicking the back button.
As for the system detecting swipes on the whole lcd, that's probably a non-starter. It would break the touch user interface of many apps.
Currently there are two ways to bring up the programs tab - dragging the tab up and a short press on the tab itself. It *may* be possible to change the function of the short press to 'back' but I think that may cause a lot of inadvertent 'back' presses...
boogie1077 said:
Currently there are two ways to bring up the programs tab - dragging the tab up and a short press on the tab itself. It *may* be possible to change the function of the short press to 'back' but I think that may cause a lot of inadvertent 'back' presses...
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I think what svxdriver wants is for a leftward swipe to be universally recognized as a backstep, meaning not just on the Launcher screen but in all applications.
Not sure how well that would work. The o/s would need to distinguish between a swipe and just scrolling across the screen. Easier, I think, to just use the back button.
BobbyHill said:
Not sure how well that would work. The o/s would need to distinguish between a swipe and just scrolling across the screen. Easier, I think, to just use the back button.
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well it doesn't have a hard time distinguishing between moving up on a page and when you drag from the top of the screen to pull the notification bar down. in windows mobile I had a program that I could assign different gestures to do different things.. I thought it the same kind of thing would be handy.. but I wouldn't want it to go back cause I swiped, onlyl if I swipe from the edge of th screen to signify I want to go back..

Left and Right Keys...

Why is it so hard to push the left and right keys? they should have made it just like the up and down keys.
I want to play frogger and you just cant do it lol
Is there anyway around this?
I agree. It is SOO HARD
is there any way to "hard mod" it by like dremaling holes in the faceplate and just attaching little button nubs to the sensor? anyone tried this? i would rather it worked than looked pretty....seriously htc, what the heck.
just find the point between the home icon and phone icon an press it over and over on each side it really is a "sweet spot" as described in another thread. Once you get it it will come naturally, at least for me it did
SUPAstarr said:
just find the point between the home icon and phone icon an press it over and over on each side it really is a "sweet spot" as described in another thread. Once you get it it will come naturally, at least for me it did
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I've had my Fuze since launch and it is still hit and miss. The bad thing is gaming, when you really rely on the buttons... you don't have time to look down and get the thumb placement 100% right. This is the problem.
What I would LOVE to see happen is to completely get rid of the Today and Back buttons, since I never use them anyway. The Red End key works as a Today button and I'm accustomed to using the X close button to minimize/close my apps.
With the Today and Back buttons disabled it would be much easier to use Left/Right because then you wouldn't have to worry about ending up at the today screen.
OR an even better solution would be to simply re-assign the Today and Back keys as softkeys (which could then be reassigned in the game's button mapping) or remap the hard keys to Left/Right for easy use. Either way it would work pretty well.
For the time being... I wonder if you could place a small circular sticker on the "correct" placement... thus fooling the sensor that every time it is pressed it "see's" the sticker thinking it is your thumb and triggers left/right actions.
OR if that doesn't work... what about finding the correct placement location and installing some kind of "dimple". Like a small half-bubble-like sticker that will enable you to "feel" where the correct spot is. This way when your playing, you could at least find the dimple, and press... all without looking.
Just a few ideas. I haven't tried any of them, so if anything works let me know.

Improve one handed usability by swapping back/recent keys!

First off, I know that doing this is looked down upon as samsungification by the Nexus master race and in the past I have agreed that it didn't make sense to have the Samsung style button layout. On this phone however, I've found that it drastically improved one handed usability for those who don't have huge hands (if you hold you're right handed). The buttons are in order of importance (back, home, and recents) going from easiest to hardest to reach with your thumb. I personally have to re adjust my grip to reach the left-most button one handed.
You can do this easily with gravitybox (swap back and recent keys).
I found it awkward at first (i kept instinctually hitting the recents button) and actually switched back because of that, but I found myself missing the reachability of the back button and now it's my full time set up. You get used to it within 2 days. Give it a chance, I bet you'll like it
One of the first mods I made with gravity box when I first got the phone. Having come from a samsung, I'm quite used to the back being on the far right. There's also an option in GB to add the overflow/menu button to the navigation bar. Most menus already have the menu or over flow accessible in one way or another, but this keeps it on the screen consistently.
You should really read through the themes and apps section.
Or you could get one of these: http://shop.flygrip.com/?ref=pg-home
Yes, they're expensive, but once you use one it's hard to imagine not having it.

Adding notification pull down button to navbar?

I noticed the OxygenOS doesn't have the option to add more nav bar buttons like the G7 had one to pull down the notifications area, it's very useful for phones this large. Any way to get this on the OP7 Pro?
Maybe you already know, but just in case you don't.
While using default OP launcher, you can swipe down on home screen to pull down notification panel.
C3C076 said:
Maybe you already know, but just in case you don't.
While using default OP launcher, you can swipe down on home screen to pull down notification panel.
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Yeah, that works great on the home screen, unfortunately it doesn't work anywhere else like the button did. Having that button makes the phone much easier to one hand.
TheJesus said:
Yeah, that works great on the home screen, unfortunately it doesn't work anywhere else like the button did. Having that button makes the phone much easier to one hand.
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That's the curse of the in-display FPR. I thought about that when the 6T came out. No navigation remap as yet.

How to take a screenshot on the N20U 5G

This might sound like a stupid question but it's something that I never gave it too much thought with my previous phones as it was simply power+ down volume button and that's it but it just doesn't work with my N20U, I also tried the gesture one and it also doesn't work, what am I doing wrong and how to fix it without resetting the settings?
Volume down and the power button works perfectly on mine. You have to push and release pretty fash and it pops up. Keep in mind that you can also use the spen to take a screen shot/screen write, wave the pen in a zig zag or even use smart select if you don't want to capture the whole screen. For the palm swipe you do have to turn that on if you haven't done that already. It's under "advanced features" and then "screenshot and screen recorder. " I hope that helps and give you several options!
Oh and palm swipe is under motion and gestures.
The easiest is to download Good Lock and use NavStar to add a screen shot button to your navigation bar.
take your s-pen out and click screen write.
tourbound129 said:
The easiest is to download Good Lock and use NavStar to add a screen shot button to your navigation bar.
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Too easy to accidentally bump and tap.
pieces of cake said:
Too easy to accidentally bump and tap.
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Wouldn't know. Not an issue for me. I also have the power button on the navigation bar and haven't accidentally turned off my phone either. Like everything, to each their own.
I just use palm swipe to take screenshots, just run the edge / base of your palm across the screen.
Yes I swipe palm from left side of screen to right side
Is the easiest
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The easiest is to download Good Lock and use NavStar to add a screen shot button to your navigation bar.
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Not really the easiest way when it requires one to have a nav bar.
So simple on chinese phones but number one manufacturers still struggling.
They should think of knock knock knuckle or 3 finger swipe.
pcriz said:
Not really the easiest way when it requires one to have a nav bar.
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Oh yes, I certainly forgot about the 1% of users that turn off the nav bar
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Oh yes, I certainly forgot about the 1% of users that turn off the nav bar
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Yeah I wouldn't say it's 1%, for one making up statistics on the internet is a bit childish.
Two, one can achieve 6 different tasks from the edge of either side of the screen without torturing themselves with a cluttered ugly (in my opinion) asymmetrical nav bar.
Samsung/Android 10 gestures with One Hand Op+ means you sacrifice zero screen space while being able to back, recents, and home from any angle.
Heck. From one side of my phone I can go back (horizontal short swipe), home (diagonal down shirt swipe), and recents (diagonal up short) from both sides of the device. I can jump to my last app with a horizontal long swipe, and that still leaves me two more gestures to customize. Four of you count both sides of the screen.
How does this benefit op, well they can use one hand op to assign screen shots to a long gesture. I mean who is rebooting and screenshotting that much that they need a dedicated button at the bottom of the screen. Nevermind literally having a power button in the notification pull down, seems like a pretty inefficient use of space on such a gorgeous screen.
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Yeah I wouldn't say it's 1%, for one making up statistics on the internet is a bit childish.
Two, one can achieve 6 different tasks from the edge of either side of the screen without torturing themselves with a cluttered ugly (in my opinion) asymmetrical nav bar.
Samsung/Android 10 gestures with One Hand Op+ means you sacrifice zero screen space while being able to back, recents, and home from any angle.
Heck. From one side of my phone I can go back (horizontal short swipe), home (diagonal down shirt swipe), and recents (diagonal up short) from both sides of the device. I can jump to my last app with a horizontal long swipe, and that still leaves me two more gestures to customize. Four of you count both sides of the screen.
How does this benefit op, well they can use one hand op to assign screen shots to a long gesture. I mean who is rebooting and screenshotting that much that they need a dedicated button at the bottom of the screen. Nevermind literally having a power button in the notification pull down, seems like a pretty inefficient use of space on such a gorgeous screen.
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You are right, it's definitely less than 1% of phone users that turn off the nav bar. I shouldn't have rounded up.
There are tons of options for screen shots so attacking an on screen button in order to justify your preference says a lot.
The power button on the nav bar doesn't reboot. It's a software button to turn off the screen instead of hitting the hardware power button.
Hitting a button works 100% of the time. No gesture works 100% of the time.
Anyway, you clearly have a your way or no way mentality so I'm out on this conversation.
Hopefully OP finds one of many options for screen shots that works.
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You are right, it's definitely less than 1% of phone users that turn off the nav bar. I shouldn't have rounded up.
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My gestures work every time. You can adjust the length and sensitivity to your individual liking. Again while having the whole screen for an immersive viewing experience.
No one is attacking anything. It's a permanent button for a temporary problem. But hey Android is about choice.
But I mean if someone needs to black out the screen. Seems one hand op has a gesture for that. Crazy the flexibility of Android.

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