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[Q] Edge handoff with Nexus S?

Hi I am new here. i have been lurking for a bit but didn't find an answer to the question I have so I decided to sign up. First a little background... first time android user coming from an iphone. I really like the NS, couldn't be happier. I am also pleasantly surprised by T-Mobile's data speeds. I live in Manhattan and as everyone knows ATT is the pits for reliable service and fast data speeds there. I have gotten 5.11mbps down using the speed test app on T-Mo in my apt. With ATT I could only get .78mbps down as the highest. Videos, websites, music downloads are all really quick on the NS. It is actually faster then my cable provider's internet service...probably because time warner sucks and my cable is split about 45 ways. I happen to work in Jersey City, right on the Hudson river overlooking Manhattan. When I am in the World financial center in lower Manhattan commuting to work I get the same high data speeds as I do in my apt. The WFC is right across from where I work. When I check T-Mo's coverage map there are 2 cell towers a stones throw from my building on the river front. That being said I only get Edge coverage. Does anyone else have an issue with bad 3G to Edge handoff with the NS or with T-Mo in general? I feel like I should have solid 3G service there! Is there a way to force 3G?....I would assume that 2 bars on 3G is better then 5 on Edge, at least as far as data speeds are concerned. T-Mo's site list my job site as having excellent coverage. Also, I have eliminated the possibility that the building I work in is causing the issue. When I am outside the issue persists. I have about a .25 mile walk to my building in Jersey and all along the way I am sitting on Edge.

Greg Tolan said:
Hi I am new here. i have been lurking for a bit but didn't find an answer to the question I have so I decided to sign up. First a little background... first time android user coming from an iphone. I really like the NS, couldn't be happier. I am also pleasantly surprised by T-Mobile's data speeds. I live in Manhattan and as everyone knows ATT is the pits for reliable service and fast data speeds there. I have gotten 5.11mbps down using the speed test app on T-Mo in my apt. With ATT I could only get .78mbps down as the highest. Videos, websites, music downloads are all really quick on the NS. It is actually faster then my cable provider's internet service...probably because time warner sucks and my cable is split about 45 ways. I happen to work in Jersey City, right on the Hudson river overlooking Manhattan. When I am in the World financial center in lower Manhattan commuting to work I get the same high data speeds as I do in my apt. The WFC is right across from where I work. When I check T-Mo's coverage map there are 2 cell towers a stones throw from my building on the river front. That being said I only get Edge coverage. Does anyone else have an issue with bad 3G to Edge handoff with the NS or with T-Mo in general? I feel like I should have solid 3G service there! Is there a way to force 3G?....I would assume that 2 bars on 3G is better then 5 on Edge, at least as far as data speeds are concerned. T-Mo's site list my job site as having excellent coverage. Also, I have eliminated the possibility that the building I work in is causing the issue. When I am outside the issue persists. I have about a .25 mile walk to my building in Jersey and all along the way I am sitting on Edge.
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kinda confused, are you using the phone on ATT or Tmo?
if its on ATT you will only be getting EDGE

Sorry for the confusion...this is on on T-Mo.

To help diagnose the problem ... do you have any friends who can verify that there is in fact T-Mobile 3G coverage at your work? (where you say you only have EDGE)
This could be a service issue that T-Mobile is unaware of; you could also call customer service and request that they test those towers.

may also be a matter of a Tech re associating your device with the tower

@Ravidavi: unfortunately I am the only t-mobile user in my group! everyone else is on vzw or att.
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I've seen this too. This is my first t mobile phone too but it switches to edge and stays there in solid 3g areas. I want to like t mobile more but this is making it hard for me.

I'll call customer service. Complaining a bit might put it on their radar....
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I called customer service. There is a known issue in the area.... Must be related to the blizzard we had.
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Welcome to Android!
For the future, you can force 3G by going to your dialer and inputting:
*#*#4636#*#*
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Flick down to where you see Preferred Network Type
Select 'Wcdma Only"
You will see your signal reset and should 3G be available in that area, you'll pick it up. I'm also a fellow Manhattanite and am too loving the T-Mobile speeds since I came from iPhone in January 2010 with Nexus One

Sweet thanks for that. It indeed showed no service at all on wcdma. That will definitely be a handy trick in the future!
allen099 said:
Welcome to Android!
For the future, you can force 3G by going to your dialer and inputting:
*#*#4636#*#*
Phone Information
Flick down to where you see Preferred Network Type
Select 'Wcdma Only"
You will see your signal reset and should 3G be available in that area, you'll pick it up. I'm also a fellow Manhattanite and am too loving the T-Mobile speeds since I came from iPhone in January 2010 with Nexus One
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4g greenville, sc

Today is the first day I have gotten 4g in Greenville, sc anyone elses pop up with it today
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where in greenville
I live near berea

it lasted for a matter of 10 minutes, and then went off again.

worm- said:
it lasted for a matter of 10 minutes, and then went off again.
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That means verizon is testing 4g in ur area and it should be live soon

Dang it I missed it!!
They have turned it on once before for a few min about a month so maybe we are getting close to having the switch flipped on in gville/sptbg area! I hate that I missed it this time!

I am near downtown greenville and it came on for about a few min and went out got a chance to do a speed test I was getting 6 to 10mbps down was not getting upload
Also I been noticing 3g going down to 1x and back up to 3g for the past week anyone else had this happen?
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oooooh. Maybe if Greenville is close then Charleston is right there with them. I should start turning on 4g to see if it works

I thought you meant Greenville, NC... damn.

Coming soon to a greenville / spartanburg place near you! YES!

I read an article on google that stated verizon's 4g will hit surrounding areas when greenville, sc receives 4g, including clemson university. With that being said, i have noticed an increase in 3g/1x fluctuations this and last week as well.

I don't see why they didn't include Anderson in the list I saw. I saw mauldiin simpsonville easley fountain inn and some more suburbs in greenville. Heck if they added Anderson they would have most of the upstate market. Tonight I been noticing a lot of 3G drops outs
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It Looks like the Greenville/Spartanburg area is getting 4G on the 16th of June Verizon Wireless Twitted it along with 21 new market areas!

Are you sure Greenville/Spartanburg was on the list?? I didn't see it on Android Central's list for the 16th a couple days ago.
I hope, I hope you're right!!

Your Right!! I hadn't seen the latest!! Thanks for making my day!! HAHAHA

I'm in Travelers Rest/Furman area, wonder if the 4G will stretch to me? i'm only 15 min to downtown.

I live in Easley and I really hope it reaches out there because I will get rid of my DSL through AT&T.

Come on Boiling Springs!!
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It's also on verizon wireless news Center http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/05/pr2011-05-20g.html
Also these surrounding areas i would picture Travelers Rest and Easley will be in there since Central SC which is WAY smaller than Easley is also gonna be Covered because these towns are part of the Greenville Metro statistical area (aka Suburbs) but here is what they posted on thier News Center
The deployment of Verizon Wireless’ 4G LTE in Greenville-Spartanburg also provides LTE coverage throughout the surrounding areas of Clemson, Simpsonville, Fountain Inn, Greer, Taylors, Inman, Central, Liberty (Which i will think this will include Easley since is along HWY 123 and in Pickens County just adding my guessing in), Mauldin, Wellford, Inman, Berea, Lyman, Startex, Roebuck, and White Stone.
With all these Cities and surroundings that Pretty much covers the Whole Upstate at least around the I-85 Corridor of South Carolina just needs to get to Gaffney and Anderson area's this is like a huge LTE cut on

I was connected to 4g for a few hours early this morning in Mauldin before it went back off.

zolazar - i live in easley too. small world.

So did Sprint stop implementing 4G in other cities or what?

I'm always hearing about Verizon's LTE service going live another city. And now I find out that its going live where I live. I mean Sprint was the first and still I don't have any wimax 4g where I'm at.
Sorry for the rant....I just don't get how Verizon's LTE service is live in my city when sprints 4g is not.
In fact I believe Verizon's LTE service is live in a lot more cities than Sprints Wimax 4G service
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i talked to a sprint rep about sprint losing its contracts that allowed them to use other carrier's towers. he tried to reassure me that to offset the issue, theyre starting to rollout more 3g/4g towers. now i don't know how much truth is in that, but i'm just gonna take it with a grain of salt.

both sprint and clear have no money to roll out more 4g. they havent turned on any markets in months.

Yah and also there talk of Sprint/clear moving to Lte.

They just rolled WiMax out to like 40 new markets a couple of months ago.
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I'm still waiting for 3G to show up in my area.
Heck, I'd be happy to get any sort of cellular service at all at my house.

tailsthecat3 said:
both sprint and clear have no money to roll out more 4g. they havent turned on any markets in months.
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This couldn't be more incorrect, and yes they have been rolling out coverage in many areas. Go ahead and go over to the Clear.com site and look at coverage. Zoom in to areas and you will see green in many places, even though they aren't official Clear cities yet. Clear actually has been doing quite well, as has Sprint.
http://corporate.clearwire.com/releases.cfm
This will show they are expanding with Sprint. They also had one of the most successful quarters to date for them. That is also in there.
Don't spread misinfo!
They also will be upgrading it to be faster.
http://www.talkandroid.com/41725-fc...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)

poor, naive, uninformed customers being taken advantage of...
womp womp. they dont have money to roll out more service. they have eliminated most retail outlets. do more research and you will see, that even though they posted gains last QUARTER, it doesnt help the last two years of losses. regardless of posting gains, they are NOT rolling out 4g.

I think its both....
Clearwire is behind the 8 ball, but getting rid of retail was a good move. Now they can concentrate strictly on building out the WIMAX network, and eventually push out WIMAX 2 to legitimately compete in the 4G war. The question is whether or not they can stay afloat to do so....

tailsthecat3 said:
womp womp. they dont have money to roll out more service. they have eliminated most retail outlets. do more research and you will see, that even though they posted gains last QUARTER, it doesnt help the last two years of losses. regardless of posting gains, they are NOT rolling out 4g.
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Once you again you clearly show 0 knowledge in this. They shut down outlets because Sprint had asked them to spend more interest and money into building out the infrastructure. I have about 10 sources that can confirm this, and I can also confirm it by showing coverage that is showing up in the map every day. Stop trolling and get some real facts. Clear has also been testing LTE and a wider spectrum for Wimax here in PHX. So you either do your research or zip your mouth. I posted links to hard facts, showing coverage being built and turned on, and the fact the speeds are being upgraded. I will also note that a Clear truck has been building a new tower about 500FT from my house.
Once again I will post it
May 12th they opened up more coverage to the Bay Area.
http://corporate.clearwire.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=576679
Here is more proof, Sprint helping them build Multi-Mode towers. That 2.5ghz is the Wimax Spetrum.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

Clear has been hurting for money but they have rolled out a few places like grand rapids, mi and a few more. Sprint is working on project leap frog which is combining the base towers to give way better signal and merging the 800mhz into all the towers to provide 1xadvanced coverage for simultanious voice and data. I for one am excited especially when the 800 mhz spectrum turns from iden to lte plus the wimax out will be awesome just be patient, sprint has really good things coming
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Today sprint has a event here in Puerto Rico to announced the 4g
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abrcrmdl23 said:
Clear has been hurting for money but they have rolled out a few places like grand rapids, mi and a few more. Sprint is working on project leap frog which is combining the base towers to give way better signal and merging the 800mhz into all the towers to provide 1xadvanced coverage for simultanious voice and data. I for one am excited especially when the 800 mhz spectrum turns from iden to lte plus the wimax out will be awesome just be patient, sprint has really good things coming
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This is also known as network vision. http://tinyurl.com/4xeq89p (at least as far as I can tell)
To the poster who said a sprint rep tried to reassure you they have posted many internal docs recently about this to help educate reps.
And the western MI outages that happened has helped to lite the fire on this burner.

I can now connect to 4G in my house near Lansing, MI. To my knowledge, they have never announced anything in the Lansing and Flint areas, but if you go to http://www.clear.com/coverage, you can see if it is available in your area.

I really hope sprint puts lte on 800 MHz ...it would line up with where Europe will be so eventually we will have a situation where most phones in the us have at least 700mhz domestic...and 800mhz for international roaming ....if they use it for evdo now it could be a long time before we see a lte rollout on sprint
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4G up and running in Fort Wayne, IN!

Verizon's 4G LTE network is now up and running ahead of schedule! It was supposed to be up at the end of the month but here I get to utilize my TB to its fullest potential half a month early! So far surfing the web is amazing, Hulu and Netflix stream flawlessly and downloads fly. Now to see how bad my battery life ends up...
4G LTE with 3 bars of signal using SpeedTest.net app:
Ping - 302ms
Download - 4762kbps
Upload - 3795kbps
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Grats! Now we need it in more parts of Indy (i.e. the parts I'm in, not downtown and by the airport).

Congrats! still cant get any sign of it in Noblesville.

Likewise none here either in noblesville
Seen it from indy to westfield Monday, soon as I got home no more 4G
Can't wait for this ****

Seems most of Indy is supposed to be covered now. I get a 4g signal about one block from my house but, sadly, no 4g at my house. Still, far better rollout than AT&T's "4g" service. The suburbs are probably next on the list.

the Verizon press release says 4G within the 465 loop
I had it to westfield a couple days before it was "officially" released, but now I don't!!
my guess is they attenuated the signal strength back some to limit signal loss in the burbs, who really knows, except them
http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/05/pr2011-05-23a.html

BINGO!!
got 4G LTE in westfield right now!!!
so excited, hope its at work too, in noblesville

Man, you guys are lucky. I don't even know when Indy is getting Wimax, let alone Danville and Avon.
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[Q] 4G Salt Lake -Where are the boundries

So 4G is starting to come online in Salt Lake ahead of tomorrow's official launch. Seems pretty fast and the tower hand-off has been pretty good from the little I've seen. While I'm not sure about the northern boundries the southern boundries are supposed to be to about 7800 south which leaves a large part of the Valley without 4G (bummer). I live right at about 7800 south and 2700 West and this morning my Thunderbolt would flicker between 4G and 3G depending on which tower I was connected to. I certainly hope it was due to the service just starting to come online and not due to the fact that I'm right on the boundry for the 4G service. I guess we'll see how the coverage looks in the morning when it "officially" launches.
My office which is about 6200 South and 3000 East is getting strong 4G without any flickering or hiccups.
Who else is Salt Lake is getting 4G and where do you think the boundries are?

Creek Road and Highland drive (about 8000 south 2000 east), getting strong signal. Not sure what the closest tower would be...

Stops up around north salt lake,about a mile past where 15 and 215 join,had 4g in layton yesterday for about an hour
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Hum drum...
No luck down here in Draper, but hopefully when Provo/Orem rolls out it reaches from the city to the valley

I commute in from Grantsville everyday, via 80.
I got 4G at about 215 and 80, and it stuck all the way up to the 4500 S exit off of 15, and to where I work on 3900 and State.
Was on it all day, streaming Audiogalaxy, Pandora and Google Music. No hiccups, at all.
I will say, when I walked into work this morning, I had a full 100% charge on my extended 2750 battery, and I just let it run down, which took about 6 and a half hours, Lol! 4G is quite the battery hog.
Running the newest virusrom beta (gb), and imo's newest kernel. Usually get 20+ hours on a mix of wifi and 3g.
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So when I left me house this morning I didn't have 4G (7800 south & 2700 west). Disappointing, but what can I do? At work (where I get great 4G coverage) I checked the Verizon website and their coverage maps it says my home is well within the 4G coverage area (sorry Draper, no luck).
Is there a chance they are still rolling it out and we'll see more of the valley come online throughout the day or do you think this is it and the Verizon map is wrong?
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Just purchased my TB from the VZW store yesterday from the Murray store (State & 63rd), and I was able to get 4G in the store. Drove home to 10th W & 70th S (5 min) and no 4G.

I work at the VA hospital and get a strong signal here but where I live it goes back and fourth but mostly just 3t and it should be in the boundaries. I live about 30th south 30th east. I am going that it will get stronger, but it may just be wishful thinking.
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rmoffitt321 said:
Who else is Salt Lake is getting 4G and where do you think the boundries are?
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You could guess, or you could look here http://www.cellreception.com/towers/ and here http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController and here http://www.antennasearch.com/

yareally said:
You could guess, or you could look here
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I think Verizon's map is very generous with what areas are 4g. Murray should be completely covered according to their map. Unfortunately Draper falls into a hole while there is some coverage in a neat little circle around it... Here's hoping we get some more love this way, if not I live down off state and center in Orem so when Provo/Orem rolls out I'm good :| I hope.

satseaker said:
Stops up around north salt lake,about a mile past where 15 and 215 join,had 4g in layton yesterday for about an hour
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Same as you. I was going north on Beck St. And lost it right around Staker or after.
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Just add to this, took 21st home today, lost 4g at about 7200 W.
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I get it in Holladay. For some reason today the 4g does not want to start on. If I switch to 3g I am good but not 4g. Amy one else having those issues?
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Rio Tinto Stadium.

it seems like the 4G footprint is continuing to expand at least a little. While I still don't have full 4G at my house yet it seems like the signal seems to be getting more widespread than it was last week.
Are you seeing 4G in any places it wasn't in last week at launch?
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Spoke to a Verizon Guy
So I was chatting with a Verizon Guy and he was telling me that they will continue to expand LTE until they hit the point of the mountain and some of Draper. He says they are still working on upgrading towers and every Sunday they flip a few more on. I guess there are quite a few towers that are ready for LTE further south but they don't want to have dead spots in the middle so they are upgrading to towers inbetween and letting it creep further and further south as they go. He told me they had some problems with the Tower at Jordan Landing but that once that one came on they could expand into South Sandy immediately.
I know my on again and off again 4G on 7800 South and 2700 West is now fully ON and I'm finding the signal further and further south.
He also said that they will likely turn on the Provo/Orem towers in late July.
Are you guys seeing 4G continue to expand its footprint?

SWEET!
Getting it here in Draper, right by the point of the mountain. Good thing too, cause it made little sense that there is a Verizon store here by the Harmon's that had to explain to it's customers that 4g was just up the road...

I have full bars at my place off 7800s 1300w. Today I'm not getting anything at all. 3G is extremely slow today as well. There are some gaps out towards the point of the mountain in Magna and Riverton/Herriman as well.
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