how to compare a power consumption of your devices

how to compare a power consumption of your devices - Captivate General

So, for a long time reading the forum and asking a question along the way, why I have so quickly battery discharging on my phone, I came across an interesting thought: "and from what I actually compare?. someone wrote about 5% per night, someone love to confess on the tab "Journal of the battery and it shows that he is the difference between" running "and"phone on "0.5%. but what is a night (for me it's 8 hours for someone 5). which network who have (GSM or 3G)? Also, we are constantly being developed and modified ROMs and kernels, which also constantly featured the words "lowered energy consumption."
And how do you actually compared the energy consumption of the old firmware to new. usually it sounds like "on the old firmware, I charge the phone every day, and now I charge every 2 days." but we don’t know details of how actively you used options of your phone on the old version, and how use now "(for me, For example the first 3 weeks after buying the phone had lived only one days, but now 2-3 days. but not because the new firmware, but because I'm tired of constantly digging through the phone settings and install the different soft, thus discharging it).
So, our challenge is to develop an algorithm (and in the future opportunities programs), as can be correctly and objectively compare the power consumption of our devices. That at least from the transition to the firmware to the firmware, from one kernels to another to be sure that the phone will not live less than before. Search for programs of this kind I have not been successful, can someone tell me if he knows?
actually look to you for ideas, how best to develop an algorithm testing the phone, and simultaneously bring your own.
then everything will be set out with respect to the software part, because hardware is not subject to us
1. So, first of all we need to start with any initial data. Having read all the threads about power consumption, I have come to the conclusion that the original data should include the following:
- Do wipe battery stat. We fully discharge the phone till shutdown and charge it in off state. after the device is fully charged, unplug it from the charging device and do wipe batter stat from the recovery menu
- To make the calibration of the battery you need to discharge and completely charge in turned off state the device at least 3 times
Here is one of the toughest parts, considering the long battery charging our phones. charging off-state means 4 hours of losing connection. and we need to do it 4 times. One discharge-charge cycle for a complete calibration system, as I understood , is not enough.
all the widgets and programs that can perform any action to in background must be disabled.
well, and then discharges our apparatus up to 95% in quiet mode, to give the battery a little bit cool, and eliminate trouble with 99-98-97% and you can begin testing.
2. Measurement tool. I would have chosen for this purpose, program or Battery Monitor Widget (she effects on discharging battery, but it writes logs, which can be tracked over time the battery status in percentage and millivolts) or JuicePlotter (don’t have logs. We have to extract data from the graphs that it constructs). JuicePlotter showed the best result in power consumption while the CPU time drain more than BatteryMonitorWidget - here's the first interesting fact. Now I’m testing these programs repeatedly to confirm this effect
3. In order to reduce measurement error the device must be discharged at least 20% of one test. or better at 30%. then + / -1% in the testing will not be particularly significant. That why testing process will be long and tedious.
4. In order to understand the power consumption of device in general, you should at least try to understand and share the power consumption of its individual components:
5. power consumption of the screen. For this purpose you can use the widget to extend controls, where you can turn the screen on constantly. And choose any standard wallpaper with middle brightness. we need to measure how much battery discharging for 3 hours the screen on. for small, medium and very high brightness, respectively. you can check consumption on the automatic brightness too. is believed that the turning on an automatic brightness strongly discharge the device..
6. power consumption of the file system. In the good we ought to write a program that creates a file in a loop on the internal flash drive, and anything he writes and deletes the file. Repeat the loop few thousand times to the total time was about 2-3 hours. but until there is no such a program, you can simply copy the file size of 2-3 gigabytes of internal memory with a program such as ES Explorer. In this case, the screen must be enabled to minimum brightness (since we already know how much the phone is discharged from simply turn on the screen) to control the copy process and accordingly the percentage of discharge.
7. Estimation of consumption of the processor. To do this, too, we can write a program that would do any arithmetic operations within an hour of time. But here we get the maximum load, therefore the maximum power of the processor. and it is unlikely it will be different from the firmware to the firmware . But our processor is also able to reduce the frequency and consequently reduce power consumption. And here I think there is much to improve the software. Therefore, must be differences from firmware to firmware. And the best test for this, I think, show any video on device, it loads processor to 30% on average (better view a videoconcert, so there isn’t quite boring) for one hour and thus measure how much discharge our batteries from this view .
8. Estimation of Wi-fi. Then the test can serve up any file copy from PC (connected through wires to an access point, so this segment was not the brakes) to our unit. Since the maximum speed that I managed to squeeze out of the standard N on my Captivate is 0,8 MB / sec I think copying the file size of 2GB will be enough to discharge our device is not less than 20% battery. copy can be perform using the same ES Explorer
9. Rated power consumption in standby mode. here it must enable the network only GSM. turn off the wi-fi and bluetooth. the screen went off and did not touch the machine for 8 hours. Better course would be 24 hours, but I think hardly anyone will be able to perform such a test
Actually look to you for your suggestions and additions, as can be realized by comparing energy consumption of our devices.
from the general collective thoughts we can open thread with algorithm, where you can write your test results according to the algorithm ... and make any conclusions.

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Raphael's battery performance

Hi,
I have a GSM version of Raphael.
Since day one I've had quite short battery life of the phone - something between 24 to 36 hours (including standby and very moderate use).
In an attempt to find out the reason, I've installed a few programs which monitor the phone's current consumption, battery voltage etc.
Making long story short - all programs indicate that the phone's current consumption is ~56-60mA in standby mode. Thus, 1350mAh battery should last for 1350/60 = 24h.
That far everything makes sense. However, I've looked for methods to reduce the current consumption, either by downclocking the CPU, by turning off all radios, removing all skins and programs running in normal mode etc.
No luck - the current consumption just won't move.
It doesn't make much sense that turning off all radios, turning off the screen, turning off all programs etc. won't reduce the power consumption by even a fraction (depending on the SW/HW metering ability, of course).
Another strange behavior of the battery is that the battery indicator does not change for quite some time, and then drops by 3-4% in a very short time (~1 minute). I've seen this phenomenon in several monitoring programs, regardless of the updating time of the program.
Has anyone figured a way to reduce power consumption in standby mode?
What about downclocking?
Does anyone know what is the current consumption on other longer lasting battery time HTC phones?
Yuval.

disabling 3G normally saves battery.
did you make tests while in 3G or 2G?

I would like my battery to last longer.
FYI- I dont need a monitoring program to tell me that wifi, data, and bluetooth visibility kill my battery...

Battery test conditions
Note that the 56mA current consumption is with all radios closed!! (alternatively only with 2G GSM on - no 3G, no WiFi and no BT).
The point is to reduce the amount of current drawn from the battery in standby mode.

yuvalm said:
Hi,
I have a GSM version of Raphael.
Since day one I've had quite short battery life of the phone - something between 24 to 36 hours (including standby and very moderate use).
In an attempt to find out the reason, I've installed a few programs which monitor the phone's current consumption, battery voltage etc.
Making long story short - all programs indicate that the phone's current consumption is ~56-60mA in standby mode. Thus, 1350mAh battery should last for 1350/60 = 24h.
That far everything makes sense. However, I've looked for methods to reduce the current consumption, either by downclocking the CPU, by turning off all radios, removing all skins and programs running in normal mode etc.
No luck - the current consumption just won't move.
It doesn't make much sense that turning off all radios, turning off the screen, turning off all programs etc. won't reduce the power consumption by even a fraction (depending on the SW/HW metering ability, of course).
Another strange behavior of the battery is that the battery indicator does not change for quite some time, and then drops by 3-4% in a very short time (~1 minute). I've seen this phenomenon in several monitoring programs, regardless of the updating time of the program.
Has anyone figured a way to reduce power consumption in standby mode?
What about downclocking?
Does anyone know what is the current consumption on other longer lasting battery time HTC phones?
Yuval.
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Do you have the nuePower battery driver? I've heard that its not very accurate.

It's weird that you are looking for a way to extend the battery life as it is clearly stated that the battery lasts for about up to 419 minutes of talk time (about 7 hours). So, no matter what you do, that is the maximum. Please note that the 7 hours does not included standby time. Regarding standby mode, no use to play around with it as if you put your device in standby mode, it will last 367 hours. Of course, without even waking it up even for a moment (after a full recharge).
Running battery monitoring program normally makes thing worse as some do not allow the device to truely enter standby mode. Also, note that some 3rd party applications also cause that, for example S2U2 (version 1.40 seems to fix the problem). Plugging in the earphone (via the usb port) also does not let the device to truely enter standby mode. The easiest way to test is to play some music and press the power button. If the screen turns off and the music stops, then it is in standby mode. If not, then the device is does not truely enter standby mode, and it consumes power (but lesser than when it is awakes).
In other words, no matter what you do, the battery lasts 7 hours of usage. So, the only way to extend the battery life to is purchase an extended battery (1800mAH) for Touch Pro. It will make your device thicker though.

When all the lab/field tests are done, one of the tests is to measure voltage drop with a Scopemeter/power analyzer. All we did was put the STOCK device in standby, took the back cover off and measured voltage draw with a Scopemeter/power analyzer . That would be the most accurate means of testing. The Scopemeter I use is a fluke 225c. With a Fluke 43b power quality recorder. the max over a 36hr period in standby was a 24.9mh draw. the lowest recorded was 12.1mh draw. The average was 19.3mh. You could also do this with a basic DMM.
I should also note this was done with ALL radios off.

ramborami said:
Do you have the nuePower battery driver? I've heard that its not very accurate.
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How would I find out which battery driver I have and also what alternatives are available?

[HOWTO] Improving Battery Life for CM 5.0.7 and other 2.1 ROMS [upd 06/04]

I had seen one too many posts about people asking and complaining about battery drain issues on their G1 phones and it gets tiring to read it every 5-10 posts. So I decided to create this thinktank to pool in ideas from the community and create a set of best practices to maximize mileage of our phones. I'm currently using a HTC Dream with stock battery and my battery life is pretty good with light to medium usage. I would like to contribute to the community by creating this thinktank thread. I hope this can help as a guide for myself and for people who have been having numerous battery drain issues on 5.0.7-DS and variants of this distribution.
This is NOT the ultimate end-all solution for your battery problems. These are just steps to tackle the problem. If you want minimum to no battery drain keep it plugged to socket or plug it in a car battery.
If you would like to contribute your experience, or make any corrections please do not hesitate to post and I'll include them if they seem fit and attach your name as reference. I'll also do my best to give credit where credit is due. Please see the references at the bottom part of the post. Please do not clutter this thread by doing "I'll try this" or "It doesnt work" post. Its more important for all of us to know WHY it work/didnt work. Stick to topic, and be constructive. Be intelligent. Think first.
0. Update your Radio
Updating your G1's radio to the currently-latest version (2.22.23.02) should give you better battery life as well as signal reception (you can always switch back to 2.22.19.26I if it doesn't work out for you)
1. Recalibrate
Take note that BATTERY STATS ARE WIPED whenever you flash a new rom. (since full wipes are required whenever changing ROMS, and /data is where the battery info is.) This usually leads to inaccurate battery readings.
Here's how you recalibrate properly:
- Charge your phone till the GREEN LED shows up. Leave it for another hour.
- While plugged, go to recovery and wipe your battery stats.
- Right after the phone is booted up and settled, unplug and use as per normal till it shuts off. Then charge as per normal.
2. Disabling some basic phone hardware functionality
Turn off GPS, WIFI when not in use. And brightness set to manageable levels. Even loudspeaker. This is self-explanatory. Automation software like LOCALE can be useful, but usually all it takes for you to turn off your ringer, or turn on wifi when you're at a specific area is just a press on the Power control widget.
3. Overclocked kernels
Running on full overclock speed (by default is 528mhz or even higher on some kernels) will drain your battery faster and you'll notice significant heat increase when you're using your phone along with 3G.
Although im using pershoots 576mhz overclock kernel, I do not max it to 576 unless needed. The reason why I use his kernel is due to its UNDERVOLT capability. I have set up my phone using SetCPU
MAXFREQ: 480,
MINFREQ: 176
CPU Governor : ONDEMAND.
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Usually I would set my phone to 384mhz if im going to stay on it longer (texting/long browsing etc). On the sleep mode I set it to 122mhz to 384mhz.
4. Tame your widgets, minimize using them.
Widgets that constantly connect to the internet, or constantly refreshing on the screen to update data being shown on the screen at extremely small intervals would also give you battery drain. Minimizing widgets can help minimize applications running in the background (free up memory) and avoiding your phone going on "partial sleep". Also tweak your widgets to update as less as manageably possible. If for some reason you can't see the next suggestion.
Aside from that you might want to disable Background syncing and do manual syncing. Aside from saving your data plan, it also saves battery life. You can disable it by doing the following:
Menu > Settings > Accounts & Sync > Background Data - OFF
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manually update your facebook widget or contacts/gmail by
Menu > Accounts & Sync > Facebook (or GMail) > Sync.
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5. 3G, 2G, switch off, or automate it.
You'll notice that inside the default settings for mobile networks. Setting to 2G will "save battery" which is actually true. The connection will definitely be slower, but if you like your phone to last longer throughout the day, either switch to 2G or turn it off altogether.
Also, similar to juice defender, I use 2g/3g toggle and toggle data as and when needed.
Another suggestion that I just found out recently is the use of Juice Defender app [d]. It automatically turns on or off your APN settings at intervals. You might want to try to look at that app if you cannot do #4
6. Disable live wallpapers. Auto Updating Sense
Remember that 2.1 isnt actually built for our old phones. and livewallpapers do require cpu/gpu processes. These are also running in the background and may run while your phone is asleep. So turning them off will benefit you.
7. Refrain from using Automated task killers and choose what you kill.
If you see that the app you had been trying to kill a few times keeps coming back. Stop killing it. Everytime you do, and whenever it respawns, CPU flies to 100%. Go back to #4.
8. Disable Market notifications.
- Open the Market application.
- Select the Menu key.
- Select Downloads.
- Select the Menu key again.
- Select Notifications.
- Select the Do not notify me radio button. press [Ok]
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9. Make your phone sleep.
Open your spareparts application, Go to End button behavior. Select "Go to sleep"
10. Under the hood tweaks
10.1 Extending Wifi scan intervals
Edit the wifi scan interval in /system/build.sapphire.prop (or build.trout.prop if you have a G1)
# Time between scans in seconds. Keep it high to minimize battery drain.
# This only affects the case in which there are remembered access points,
# but none are in range.
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval = 45
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Changing this number to just 90 second will half your wifi scans. Obviously larger numbers can mean less wifi scans which means more battery life, though it may take a little longer for your phone to pick up a remembered access point when in range. This is not just a CM/Eclair thing, it can also work for Donut phones.
This setting needs a reboot after editing the file. Edit it with Root Explorer, or nano as root if you have CM5, or pull the file with adb then edit it then push it back.
11. Remove your phone from your pocket whenever you can.
Body heat deteriorates battery life no kidding! there had been already studies to back it. I keep my phone either on my hand or outside of my pocket to keep it cool. Do whatever is manageable in your environment. If you're using your phone as a music player streaming using streamfurious and stuff. dont let your body heat add to the heat already been generated by your phone itself.
References / Updates :
[a] cyanogen recalibrating batteries : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Troubleshooting#Battery_recalibration
thanks to mejorguille for correction on /data and wiping.
pershoot UV kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666850
[c] SetCPU main site : http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/ - Thanks also to ShadowCH for tip.
[d] JuiceDefender : http://www.latedroid.com/2010/01/juicedefender.html -
- Thanks to shohid1234 for 3G-2G toggle
[e] Thanks to Jaymzz for tip on disabling market: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/topic/94-i-fixed-my-battery-drain/
[06/02] thanks to Arkain2k for tip #0
[06/04] Thanks to Foo_Blyat's tip for disabling background sync and manual updates for fb/gmail (item 4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6670907&postcount=36
[06/04] Thanks to Super Jamie for tip 10.1 extending wifi scans http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6684954&postcount=49

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10. Remove your phone from your pocket whenever you can.
Body heat deteriorates battery life no kidding! there had been already studies to back it. I keep my phone either on my hand or outside of my pocket to keep it cool. Do whatever is manageable in your environment. If you're using your phone as a music player streaming using streamfurious and stuff. dont let your body heat add to the heat already been generated by your phone itself.
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really? isnt warmth charging batterys? in my old gameboy years i always put my batteries on the heater when the drained completely and after an hour i could play again with the old batteries.

1. Recalibrate [a]
Take note NOT TO WIPE BATTERY STATS whenever you flash a new rom and your battery is less than 90%. This usually leads to inaccurate battery readings. If you already wiped your battery during one of your flashes, here's how you recalibrate properly:
- Charge your phone till the GREEN LED shows up. Leave it for another hour.
- While plugged, go to recovery and wipe your battery stats.
- Right after the phone is booted up and settled, unplug and use as per normal till it shuts off. Then charge as per normal.
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This is true, but since battery stats are stored on the data partition, a data wipe also deletes the battery stats. A lot of rom's require a full wipe, meaning data and dalvik, so battery stats are deleted whether you select the option or not.

Since001 said:
really? isnt warmth charging batterys? in my old gameboy years i always put my batteries on the heater when the drained completely and after an hour i could play again with the old batteries.
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Hi!
Yes Im very familiar with that practice because i do that too. The reason might be because of the composition of the battery (alkaline, non alkaline). Usually we put it under the sun so that the heat will help change the composition of the compound inside the battery in order for it to lower down its resistance. Leading to a "charge".
But now we are using Li-Ion batteries, and I do not suggest putting them under the sun because it will deteriorate your battery capacity holding charge and its lifecycle.
reference: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm see figure 1.

samaral said:
Hi!
Yes Im very familiar with that practice because i do that too. The reason might be because of the composition of the battery (alkaline, non alkaline). Usually we put it under the sun so that the heat will help change the composition of the compound inside the battery in order for it to lower down its resistance. Leading to a "charge".
But now we are using Li-Ion batteries, and I do not suggest putting them under the sun because it will deteriorate your battery capacity holding charge and its lifecycle.
reference: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm see figure 1.
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Thanks, that makes sense.
Made me lol to see that there actually is a "battery university"

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mejorguille said:
This is true, but since battery stats are stored on the data partition, a data wipe also deletes the battery stats. A lot of rom's require a full wipe, meaning data and dalvik, so battery stats are deleted whether you select the option or not.
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Noted. I have edited the guide to reflect your insight.
Thank you very much

how about going to setting - about phone - battery use?
there you can find out exactly whats killing your battery and take appropiate action.
Also, similar to juice defender, I use 2g/3g toggle and toggel data as and when needed. Using these two widgets i have no battery issues.

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shohid1234 said:
how about going to setting - about phone - battery use?
there you can find out exactly whats killing your battery and take appropiate action.
Also, similar to juice defender, I use 2g/3g toggle and toggel data as and when needed. Using these two widgets i have no battery issues.
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Noted. Your suggestion is added on top.

change preferred network type helped for me increasing battery life
Hello all,
as describe in post
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6432560&postcount=1
changing preferred network type worked for me.
default setting: WCDMA preferred drains my battery in a few hours, crazy
within CM 5.0.7-test7 I was able to change to: GSM/CDMA auto and it worked
But now in the final release 5.0.7-DS I can not select this setting. Perhaps it correlates to the this (PRL) info in brackets.
It seems that no "auto" setting want be working so I am trying WCDMA only right now and will see if I have a network in 2G networks too.
Bye morT

Hhmm let me think…
Running a prrocessor that's massively overclocked with software that was never meant to run on our g1's I have an idea.
****** off back to stock or get over it
I mean seriously people come on, we have set cpu for power profile management, basic battery usage which is dim screen, turn off wifi and 3g when not in use blah blah blah same **** written in every guide about battery life for ANY roms from cupcake to eclair.
As I said, get over it or go back to stock.
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im sorry does turning on "display battery status" in spare parts still effect battery life? TIA

Ive noticed that bluetooth is killlllling battery life, but dont know if its normal. I charged to 100% and turned everything on, leaving screen on the whole time and what not.
While I was actively using the net over WiFi, I had nothing using the bluetooth, and both seem to eat up 20%..
This might be normal, might not be, but thought it was odd that it being on, but not in use, ate up just as much as functioning, in use, wifi.

whats funny to me is as soon as my phone dies i plug it up reboot it a few times and my battery is at 70%
.... i think its not reading correctly .. i mean fully charged play talk text browse till it shuts off .. plug it in turn it right back on then reboot ..
and my battery is back at 70% which is weird ... anyone else notice that???
also wifi, gps is on screen brightness is standard !!!

batteries really seem to be the least developed technology in our high tech phones. feels like a sportscar with a one gallon tank...the fun's over quickly...
turned off my 3G and got a lot of additional battery life. with bad 3G reception (like in the place I live in) the phone was sometimes sucked empty in just a few hours, now I get two days.
another thing that really helped me extend my battery life was turning on airplane mode when I went to bed.

how about dont use overclock or any other cpu speed up tool....maybe the speed they are factory set to is there for a reason...Hmmmmmmm

dcowboys2184 said:
whats funny to me is as soon as my phone dies i plug it up reboot it a few times and my battery is at 70%
.... i think its not reading correctly .. i mean fully charged play talk text browse till it shuts off .. plug it in turn it right back on then reboot ..
and my battery is back at 70% which is weird ... anyone else notice that???
also wifi, gps is on screen brightness is standard !!!
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You should go through a battery recalibration - steps on the first page.

Best Practices for Improving Battery Life for CM 5.0.7 (and variant ROMS) is to use this ROM, Thanks.
Do whatever you like, show or hide battery status in the Spare parts, calibrate or not....the battery remains....for loOng....enough time....

hot/cold controversy
Since001 said:
really? isnt warmth charging batterys? in my old gameboy years i always put my batteries on the heater when the drained completely and after an hour i could play again with the old batteries.
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Since I have a background in electrical theory and chemistry, let me end this debate once and for all: heat makes atoms (and therefore molecules) move faster. Lack of heat (cold) makes them move slower. In general, fast-moving atoms in batteries mean MORE power, not less. The reason your car doesn't want to start when temperatures are subzero is that the battery acid (electrolyte) molecules are moving too slowly to oxidize (give off e-, electrons) and turn back into positive ions. The same is true for the ol' Gameboy AAs -- put them on the heater, the dry cell warm up, and more electrons are transferred to the anode by anions, the positive ions (cations) are more able to travel to travel back to the cathode (in the case of dry/wet-cell rechargeable storage batteries). Heat acts as a catalyst to produce electricity. Some of you may have even taken your car battery indoors if the electrolyte froze in the winter. Some of your cars may have battery blankets or even battery heaters if you live really far up north. In addition, the process of charging a Li-Ion, Ni-mH, or even lead acid battery will produce heat, because chemical conversion is bi-directional, but anyway . . . you charge the G1, it gets hot. You use it heavily, it gets hot. You know you're spending electrons somewhere when it gets hot period. Keeping the phone cool will not increase battery life or make it charge fast. What lower battery temperatures will do is lengthen the battery's overall life. What happens if you leave meat out in 100F/30C temperatures? It goes bad quickly. Same principle in Li-ion. The rechargeable battery is ideally an efficient, closed system of ion exchange that should work for many (hundreds) of duty cycles, but eventually heat plays a role in deterioration of the electrolyte and chemical catalysts inside.
So put your extra charged batteries (but you don't want a Li-ion or Ni-mH battery to sit very long in an discharged state, so be careful here) in the refrigerator in an airtight bag (rotating on a daily basis) if you really want them to last a long time, but don't charge them frozen (ka-boom!) and remember cold batteries charge slowly. Car batteries in sub-tropical areas are replaced at a rate of about once every 24 months, but in Sweden? Maybe every five or six years. Cold temperatures slow down chemical deterioration just like cold keeps that steak from becoming maggot food.
Again, a hot G1 may weaken its own internal components and batteries over time, but putting it on ice won't give you an extra 6 hours to oogle Miley Cyrus' vBlog
Hope this helps.

For me, unless I'm expecting a text or a call always have my phone on airplane mode. I turn it off every hour or so to see if I got any unimportant texts, and then turn it back on

[Howto]Tips n tricks for better battery life

Since we have better battery life on Android r169 version thanks to our devs i'm going to post tips n tricks for a even better battery life
1. Use "GSM auto (PRL) to save more juice while still connecting through 3G
- in the phone setting>wireless and network>MobileNetwork>NetworkMode
we are only allow to choose GSM only/ WCDMA / Auto between two
- but if you use type "*#*#4636#*#*" to phone Information, you can choose more type of networkmode. It is claimed that choose "GSM auto (PRL)" allow you to save more battery (cell standby) while allow you to connect to 3G network.
-there is one more setting which you can change:click settings(windows logo)>select radio band and change it according to your needs
- Please provide feedback on this. Thanks
2. Use AutoKiller Memory Optimizer
- This tool is different from other app killer
- It fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time.
- As a side effect it also lowers battery consumption.
- At certain free memory level (e.g. 250mb), the android os will automatically close those apps not in use (according to original android os logic)
3.Use Autostart
- Instead of closing them, it would be better if we don't let the app start from the begining
- You can choose to disable those app that u feel unnessary, so that they will not run during your phone startup
4. Check your Battery Consumption
- Download "Current Widget" or "battery monitoring widget" from market
- these apps will monitor your battery usage and recoded in a log file
- This is the normal consumption rate (varied across ROM, kernel and CPUI frequency and other factors)
credits:XDA
to be continued....

Tips
General Lithium-Ion Battery (LIB) Usage:
• Discharging your LIB fully (or less than 2.4 Volt per cell) is bad for the battery. Every time you do that, it can be said that small part of your battery (some cells) dies (they forever lose their charge). Do not store your batteries depleted, there's a high chance they will die completely or will become very "weak".
• You cannot restore bad LIBs by overloading/heating/praying. You gotta go buy a new one. They DO degrade overtime, some cells naturally lose the ability to gain/give electricity.
• Although it is said that LIBs do not have memory, it's not entirely true. LIBs have gauges that monitor performance of cells, and if you do a lot of small charges, it won't let those gauges to monitor a full battery potential, causing an invalid indication of charge level. A complete charge/discharge should be made when battery capacity seems reduced, that will calibrate gauges and they will provide your phone with correct charge level status. A full charge/discharge cycle should be done every 30 (or so) partial charges.
• LIBs have a shelf-life. Do not buy them to store them. Use them early, use them often, they will die whether you use them or not. Do not buy LIBs to use them in 6 months/year/etc, buy them right before actually using them.
• LIBs have short lives (in comparison to NiCa batteries, etc). You should expect to buy a new battery in 2-3 years after being manufactured. It is caused by internal oxidation and there's nothing you can do to stop or prevent that.
• Worst LIB treatment is to keep it at 100% charge level at high temperature (think laptop/phone under direct sunlight, like car dashboard).
• Best LIB treatment, or LIBs "favorite" charge level - 40%. That's also the usual charge level you buy them with.
• LIBs don't like heat. For example, while always at 100%, typical LIB in a laptop, at temperatures of 25C (77F) will lose 20% (twenty percent!) of full capacity per year. That capacity loss is reduced to 6% (six percent) at 0C (32F), and increased to 35% loss at 40C (104F). So, keep them cool (LIBs like fridges), don't let your devices sit in the sun or overheat at charge. Also, keep in mind that while in use, battery will be significantly hotter than phone/outside environment.
• LIBs like frequent partial charges/discharges more than they like full charges/discharges.
General Android power usage advice from google:
• Although this part is somewhat controversial, they do recommend having a complete, full FIRST charge to be made. If time allows, a preferred time for the first charge is 12 hours. This may have more to do with the OS than the battery.
• Battery on a Android device, in average, will last about a full day with normal use (some videos, mail, calls). That's what you should kind-of expect.
• Speaking in averages, "idling" 3G/EDGE connection (when phone is sleeping and no data is transferred through 3G), drains almost no energy. Just a little more than having 3G/EDGE radio off completely. So when no apps are using 3G, you don't need to keep it off.
• Same goes to WiFi connection - although it's on, if there is no data flowing through it, it uses almost no energy.
• At full throughput (100% data flow), EDGE is using more energy than 3G. In average, 3G is more energy-efficient than EDGE.
• WiFi is using more energy than 3G (when both are at 100% use), but since it transfers files much faster and then goes to "sleep", it's actually recommended to use WiFi whenever possible. Since it'll "sleep" more often than 3G, overall it will use much less battery than using 3G.
• Some bad apps or widgets can use android's "WakeLock", keeping CPU at 100%, screen always-on, or both. I myself have encountered such widget (I won't mention the name, it's in the market) that used a WakeLock to keep CPU spun-up at 100% all the time. That makes a huge impact on battery life. My advice - use a CPU profiling app to monitor the CPU - make sure that CPU slows down by itself when it's not used. So, beware of such widgets/apps. To check for CPU cycles, many recommend OSMonitor (free from market, install it, go to options, sort by "Load" in descending order. It'll give you "busiest" processes at the top). At rest you should be getting about 10-20% for OSMonitor itself, and 1-10% Android System. At rest, everything else should be 0-1%.
• Android slows down CPU when not in use by itself, as a built-in feature. Apps that throttle/change CPU frequency, are not necessarily needed.
Sources:
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
BatteryUniversity - http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Google IO Conference 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUemfrKe65c
Electropaedia - http://www.mpoweruk.com/life.htm

this one too

this is very useful information, thx a lot!

Sorry Tzacapaca, but I do not understand where I have to type the code in order to have access to other network modes
Could you clarify?
THX

doublej4473 said:
Sorry Tzacapaca, but I do not understand where I have to type the code in order to have access to other network modes
Could you clarify?
THX
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Call this number with the phone dialer

Very good summary, thanks
I will definitely come back to read again and try in this way extend battery life.

Thnx, great tips to read !

Standard battery Capacity: 1200 mAh
HTC HD Mini have a standard battery Capacity: 1200 mAh.
When the battery loses capacity and you want to replace it, consider that there are batteries in the market for the HTC HD Mini with 1700 mAh Capacity, which would be logical to give a day or two extra pleasure

15MA1L said:
HTC HD Mini have a standard battery Capacity: 1200 mAh.
When the battery loses capacity and you want to replace it, consider that there are batteries in the market for the HTC HD Mini with 1700 mAh Capacity, which would be logical to give a day or two extra pleasure
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I still like and need my phone so I wouldn't trust those batteries
I would better get an emergency recharge which can charge my phone on the go
Edit: here is one http://www.phonesuit.com/primo-cube-battery-pack-for-android-phones/

hi how do i send a log to show my battery level? its draining way to fast,temperature is 38.8 is that normal?
with the battery moniter widget temperature is fluctuating from 35.5 to 38,stabilising to just over 35.0,also says 190mA in top left for battery indicater

BATFINK74 said:
hi how do i send a log to show my battery level? its draining way to fast,temperature is 38.8 is that normal?
with the battery moniter widget temperature is fluctuating from 35.5 to 38,stabilising to just over 35.0,also says 190mA in top left for battery indicater
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download current widget and enable log file,right now i have 32.5 C on 100% battery level

tzacapaca said:
download current widget and enable log file,right now i have 32.5 C on 100% battery level
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thanks dude,can i post log file results here?

BATFINK74 said:
thanks dude,can i post log file results here?
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battery history
hi heres my battery history,is there any clue in here as to why its draining so fast?
also upload current widget log

BATFINK74 said:
hi heres my battery history,is there any clue in here as to why its draining so fast?
also upload current widget log
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hi,tell me around when phone was in standby so i can figure out
anyway so far it looks bad :O
also i have some Q's :
do you have set brightness on auto in Android or on WM?
is it a fresh install of Android?
did you install apps after that?if yes,which?
do you have GPS on on droid or on wm?

With "CurrentWidget" you can also log applications which are running on background. Then it should be easier to find out cause of battery drain. Also don't forget to write about your current settings ...

tzacapaca said:
hi,tell me around when phone was in standby so i can figure out
anyway so far it looks bad :O
also i have some Q's :
do you have set brightness on auto in Android or on WM?
is it a fresh install of Android?
did you install apps after that?if yes,which?
do you have GPS on on droid or on wm?
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hi thanks for replying
i have brightness turned down in android,havent touched in winmo
yes its a fresh install
iv installed angry birds rio,a 3d game,zedge,ebay and sky sports apps from market place
gprs is always on in both

my device is currently in sleep mode,will upload a fresh log to show results for sleep mode

For the nexus s 4G , just put brightness on low and turn of background data
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

(Step by step) How to work out battery efficiency

Do u know how battery efficient ur smartphone is?
How is the battery efficiency of kernel X compared to that of kernel Y?
Is there an objective way to work out battery efficiency (ie. other than appealing to ur subjective impression)?
Below is my tentative solution to the above questions
Requirement:
1. You need to be able to bootup into recovery mode where u can wipe the battery stat (e.g. CWM Recovery can do that. In most cases, u need a rooted phone to obtain CWM Recovery);
2. You need to be able to take screen shots;
3. CPU Spy (by storm717, free from Google Play. Disclaimer: this author doesn't have any affiliation with the app or its creator )
4. Know the total capacity (in mAH) of ur battery (can be read from the face or the back of ur battery)
Procedure
Step 1. Calibrate the battery level indicator of ur phone
Concerning the battery level, theoretically only two points can be certain: 100% (when the battery is fully charged) and 0% (when it is totally depleted). All in the middle are extrapolations based on either the 100% or the 0% point.
Practically, the 100% point is the only point against which the battery indicator can be accurately calibrated. Below is the how:
1a. Fully charge ur phone. Switch it off when the fully charge indicator is on BUT leave the charger connected to it at this point;
1b. Half an hour later, with the charger still attached, boot up into recovery mode;
1c. Choose "Wipe battery stat" from the recovery menu: (for CWM Recovery) scroll to "advanced", then "Wipe battery stat", then scroll down to highlight "yes, wipe battery stat". When it is highlighted, WAIT FOR 1 MORE MINUTE before u press the Home button to activate it (the wait will make extra sure ur battery level is truly, totally, and absolutely 100% )
1d. When that extra 1 minute is over, press the Home button to activate "yes, wipe the battery stat" --- now, the battery level indicator is accurately calibrated to 100%. (U now can see why u can never totally accurately calibrate against the 0% point: as soon as u reach the true 0%, ur phone is out and u can't reset the battery level indicator to zero when ur phone is out. That's why )
Step 2. Monitor ur battery consumption
2a. With Step 1 completed, reboot ur phone;
2b. From this time on, DO NOT ATTACH UR PHONE TO UR PC VIA USB OR SWITCH OFF OR REBOOT UR PHONE until the whole monitoring process is over;
2c. U may then use the phone any way u wish (with exception 2b above applied), but from time to time (say for every 4 or 6 hours), run CPU Spy and take a screen shot of the results it obtains each time (see for e.g. the pictures attached);
2d. The monitoring should continue until the battery level is around 10%
Step 3. Calculate the rate of battery consumption
After Step 2, u will have multiple screen shots showing ur battery consumption at various levels of battery discharge. U may use the data obtained to calculate the rate of consumption of ur device. Below is how:
3a. Take my own consumption (battery: 2,500 mAH stock battery, phone: Samsung Galaxy Note) as an example --- see Fig 1 attached.
When the battery level is 74%, the CPU stats are as followed:
Deep Sleep: 15h 22m 55s, 90%
200Mhz: 1h 13m 21s, 7%
etc.
Understandably, the rate of battery consumption is different at different CPU frequencies. So, we will calculate the respective rates one by one (when the data obtained permit so).
3b. To calculate the rate of consumption (in mA/sec), when the phone is in Deep Sleep, C(Deep Sleep):
Amount of battery used = 2,500 mA * (100 - 74)% * 90% = 585 mA
= C(DS)*(15*60 *60 + 22*60 +55)sec
Thus, C(DS) = 0.0106 mA/sec ---------------------------------------(1a)
Similarly for C(200Mhz) (rate of battery consumption when CPU is at 200Mhz)
C(200Mhz) = 0.0103 mA/sec ----------------------------------------(2a)
In theory, we can similarly calculate the rates C(500Mhz), C(800Mhz), etc. However, becoz the consumption % for those frequencies are below 1 and CPU Spy rounds all decimals to the nearest digit, so in practice the figures obtained cannot be used.
3C. Now, let's look at Fig 2, when the battery level is at 47%. The data obtained are:
Deep Sleep: 19h 29m 27s, 81%
200Mhz : 3h 15m 1s, 13%
etc.
Thus, C(DS) = 0.0153 mA/sec ----------------------------------------(1b)
C(200Mhz) = 0.0147 mA/sec -----------------------------------(2b)
Hence in my case (Samsung Galaxy Note, GB 2.3.6, Kingdroid v5.4 ROM, Speedmod K1-5 kernel, 2,500 mAH stock battery) the rate of battery consumption is around 0.011 to 0.015 mA/sec.
Limitations
1. The results obtained from the above method to calculate rates of battery consumption is system-dependent, meaning that meaningfully comparison between results can only be made for the same combination of phone + battery (system). Say u obtain C(Deep Sleep) for certain phone, OS, ROM, kernel is, for instance, Z mA/sec, this doesn't mean that for the phone model having the same OS, ROM, kernel, C(Deep Sleep) must be Z, becoz even for the same models the hardwares may be different and the battery may also be a bit different (different batches may behave slightly differently; and more importantly, the AGE of a battery can have significant effect on its performance, so batteries of the same model and the same batch may perform different owing to their different age). Nonetheless, u may make meaningful comparison when u compare results obtained for different OS's, ROM's, or kernels u install to ur system (phone + battery).
2. The rate of battery consumption with CPU at higher frequencies may not be derivable owing to the rounding of figures by CPU Spy.
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Interesting post!
What do you say if I only charge my phone to full, use Battery Calibration, reboot the phone. Will the phone still be 100% charged? Also, I think randomly using your phone between a certain range of battery levels, say 100-10%, doesn't really guarantee exact data for calculations. Maybe a stress-testing app will do a better job. Have you tested My Battery Drain Analyser and compared your results to its reading?
Please correct any technical fact if needed!

Your info is interesting but you may post it on the battery thread already is placed in general

Increase Smart Phone Battery Life

Hi, firstly I'm sorry my english is a little bad )
Did you even harder to charge your smartphone is based on the first day? Here are tips that you fully based. Get away from the stress of the outside end charging of battery life and increase your phone.
1 - Home Screen Wallpaper and Theme you are using:
If you are using a smart phone with AMOLED screen, predominantly black wallpaper should be preferred. AMOLED technology while light colors such as white because it consume more power. LCD and SLCD screens, such a situation is not in question.
My suggestion is not to use an animated wallpaper for Android users in particular. Animated wallpaper, using the phone's hardware more. This is going to have to consume more power than the components.
Android users should note also displays add to the widgets. Widgets are always synchronized with the running and intense 3D graphics, as well as the equipment used for the data connection şarjınızı effects shot.
2 - Display Lighting:
It is best to leave the automatic setting of this area.
But I do not like to remain on automatic. If you need to talk I'm being honest, I always light at the highest level. Because all the ingredients here, and it will not have to perform the charging period will be longer.
But I do not want to go up to the maximum number of days gidebilecekse say it, my proposal is worthwhile to listen to. Big and wide screens of smartphones, especially in the light of day very well read. Do not force the phone to the light a little bit, then move to a higher level.
But it starts to get dark, shine your light, especially in the evening turn down the screen. Smart phones display lights to a minimum, even offers sufficient light in the evening. This is an effective tactic.
3 - Wireless Connections:
Smart phones are undoubtedly the most power-consuming units, wireless connections. WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS and 3G that are overviewed, 3G and GPS fully charge the enemy.
According to their attempts, with the closure of all wireless connections between all of them to be open to play at least half a day I've noticed.
For example, turn off the GPS. Only helpful both when business is active. Shortcuts available in Android and Symbian Belle. The option to turn on and off in a practical way. We also do not walk Bluetooth is on. It is also charged unnecessarily waste.
A clear grasp of 3G and WiFi when it is, let's not say conect. When connecting to open it. If you say'm going to necessarily turn off syncing on Android.
Sync / Sync, for a certain period of time it şarjınıza negative effect on the data are drawn. When you use the most sense to synchronize.
4 - Your RAM (temporary memory) Operate the program free to leave and at the bottom:
Most are at fault here. If you open up the application on the phone and waiting at the bottom. E, the processor is running at full speed all the time. The conclusion is obvious.
And then they were going at the charge of the phone as well as the complaints are coming slowly. Take a notebook and a lot of that time in the program's run, so let's wait. Let's see what is going to charge?
There are applications for the program terminates, especially Android. But most of these applications 24/7 has an adverse effect charging them for trying.
I would recommend this program to Android users. Download this app. Click on the widget closes all running applications. However, if you open the program by clicking the icon, you can see and what you want Implementations running off. I would recommend this method.
When you close all the system applications to open them again, the power turns off, and then spends the processor. Here you can download the program[/URL]
5 - Efficiently Manage Your Smart Phone Processor:
This section applies to users Root'lu. Root evaded users have this right, they do not die. Linux-based smartphones, especially those driven into exile in the market with a certain processor speed settings.
In general, the phones are set to OnDemand, the processor can adjust the speed according to the amount of use. For example, a 1 GHz processor that the phone does not work all the time at 1 GHz.
Their phone for the sake of example, a 1 GHz - 265 MHz range is running. I changed speeds. If you charge the phone and the maximum to withstand reduced from 500 to 128 can do. But later in your job will be completed on the processor to use 100% of himself. This will mean that the screen backlight to stay on and wait for you. I mean, at least let it charge the struggle, suffering Pull spend more charge.
I phone 1190 - 450 range using the. I can do my work as well as installing and getting faster. Charging time is important, 1190 - 128 range I choose.
Forget! Reduce the processor speed on the phone, when trading amplify şarjınızı. Because it is trying to slow the processor 100% to use and work will be completed on your screen light will stay open late.
6 - When charging the phone's battery Full Fill:
Do not say we already have would remove 100% charge to fill it. Phone software does not fully charge the battery. Leaves a certain margin of tolerance. Here we also benefit by it. In particular I saw that HTC Desire'da tried and successful. Each company's share of each model, it will not stop. But you can be on your left. Does not hurt to try.
Explaining the steps for:
-Phone up to 100% of full charge.
-Turn off the phone, remove and charge the phone.
-Install and charge the phone again, wait until bekleyebildiğiniz. (1-3 hours)
-Turn your phone into the phone, and remove the charge.
-Wait for your phone to do nothing between 2-5 minutes after opening. (Not attached to Sharjah)
-Turn off your phone again and again for at least half an hour into charging.
Remove and use the phone in the normal-charging. The procedure is finished.
This method has been calibrated with the battery is charging and fully. Enough to do this once. And then he goes to full charge.
7 - Special Edition Operating Systems Aim for:
Android users who root for in this Article. Made by the manufacturers of Android devices, phone skins, chargers doing negative effect on life.
TouchWiz, Sense interfaces, such as, the system is more tiring, as they lower the charge time. So we have the benefit of using a pure version of Android.
With pure Android versions like CyanogenMod custom Android versions sure to use similar interfaces. The term of charge with a very stretched. Will be surprised.
Of course, I do not recommend this method to anyone. Aware of the change and the risk of all the phone's Android software will recommend it to our readers.
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Thanks!!! i will follow these tips :good:

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